I don’t hate Wisadel or any of the meta units. What I DO hate is people looking at an operator that’s not Surtr levels of broken, call them trash, then convince the rest of the community not to build that operator. Nobody will try that operator nor will they build the operator because it’s been universally conceived that they’re bad operators. Take Wildmane for example. Wildmane for a while was considered “not worth leveling.” So nobody built her. Then NM-EX-8 arrived and kicked everyone’s ass. Little did we know that an E1 Wildmane was enough to make the stage significantly easier, using her S2 to push the waves of blood knives to the middle lane and NOT the Blood Knight. No Chalter needed. With so many operators being labeled as “bad,” we limit ourselves in how we can beat the stages. Possibly getting angry when our “one solution for everything” doesn’t work, when we actually have plenty of solutions to pick from. Just give these operators a chance. They may surprise you.
Even when a character with Surtr levels of broken comes out, some people will still find something to complain about and say that the unit is not strong enough. Wisadel is what the community deserves for its eternal whining.
some of my favorite and most clutch operators are often called bad or washed out, I was advised to not even build surtr because she's not as good as she once was and because wisadel is just around the corner lmao, it's crazy how people really want to avoid playing the game
@@Hurricane047Crushers are considered bad because they die too easily. To that I say “Bet, Pramanix *skill 1!”* Holy shit, -50% attack speed for the enemy just on Skill level 7. Granted it’s 16 second uptime. But with mod 3 Pram has a 25% chance to inflict cold which is another -30% attack speed, letting you make the enemy attack 80% slower. Enemies will attack so slowly crushers can clap them before the enemy can attack twice. This is like Walmart tremble. Bosses will only be able to attack once every 10ish seconds it’s nuts.
I think the archetype was designed to be broken ground pest control, their attack clear wave like nothing would ever do, in conjunction with their stupidly wide range, I kinda think it's fair why HG limit them to not hitting aerial unit
@@Kiasisit's more reasonable to assume they made Flingers like that because they don't want them to completely phase out Artilleryman (splash snipers).
@@ak_nora u got a point, but I would disagree, personally, I think that small range difference should be enough for them to take the niche Good point tho
I really like that HG's solution to powercreep seems to be increasing the mechanical complexity of bosses (just look at Babel and Lucent Arrowhead, for example) instead of just stat bloat.
I agree, but you picked the easiest bosses we've had recently. I think Harold is a better example. His boss requires you to pay attention to the event mechanic otherwise the entire map gets nuked.
My biggest fear with Wis'adel when her kit was first revealed for CN is that the game would warp around her, basically forcing people to have her and locking new players out of clearing certain stages without having her until she shows up in the spark pool. Luckily, that has not come to pass, but it does create a weird middle ground where some stages are incredibly easy if you have her and incredibly hard if you don't.
bruh there's been like 20 "SUPER MEGA BROKEN OP MUST BUILD INSANE DAMAGE (GAME BREAKING)" over the course of arknights, the game wont revolve over this specific op, it will move on.
I watch CN players who used chalter, surtr, mlynar without thinking twice. Some of them have choose to not use wisdal because she is so strong and thus boring.
I'm glad they averted the powercreep issue by not scaling up everything to make Wisadel feel needed, since that's a problem a *lot* of gachas have that oft leads to frustration when it starts snowballing and F2P/minimal spenders can't keep up anymore.
The thing about calling her boring because she's too strong are those who have already high lvled accounts who can complete event stages with ease and have a collections of operators who are maxed out (lvls, masteries and modules) so getting resources and team comps are no problem. While new players like me who only have 2 e2 6* stars and 5 e2 4* and doesn't have much variety of ops nor resources to experiment on, WisadeL and Logos are must haves to ease the farming and complete the events(for resources).
Maybe if we, new players have enough variety of ops to complete events (just for maximum rewards) and farm resources fast (like those afk/trust farm guides) then we gladly wont use her if we have the alternatives that can do the same outcome.
@@DarkSideCreon This is what happened to me when Ling released. I got her, leveled her to E260, got her module, used her maybe three times before I realized that the game is just so bloody boring when she is in the squad. Same happened with Mlynar too. I’ll stick to my favourites, thanks. The only new operators that I currently really enjoy using are Ela and Shu. I’m at the point I don’t need Ela for general content (been playing since Obsidian Flame, the very first summer event) but she is a beast in IS (my most played game mode), and Shu is just a very powerful, fun and aesthetically pleasing support unit that is now a cornerstone in most of my squads (except when I play no-block squads which is a thing I like to do).
shes boring because theres nothing interesting anymore behind a copy paste "PRESS BUTTON DELETE EVERYTHING" skill for 31423566th time her only saving grace is S2 that is pretty fun and interesting actually focusing on what slingers gimmick is (mass AoE trash obliteration) char skills is what give them personality. mlynar being silver ash 2 or ray being schwarz 3 or walter being chalter 2 is not a personality ulpinus jumping around the map with S3 is personality or pepe interesting rampup skills(also first 6* bonk hammer) is personality or just the entirety of theresa kit. All of those are really cool and interesting NEW things not copy paste old skill but now dps is 50% higher and theres 2 extra effects also best part of AK is the beginning struggle hands down and trying your hardest to go against the odds ofc I personally started when the only "broken unit" was silver ash (still never used him) and bosses didnt have 5893475646 mechanics and 80% damage reduction and map wide oneshots and perma CC on your ops and 10 phases so new player experience might be a lot funnier now /wall of text
my favorite part is the fact everyone or a majority of the people that know the meme are just calling her Walter to be relating that alter name to breaking bad lmao. We just need someone named exactly Jessie as an operator to pair with her
To be fair both Degen and Mlynar target air for no reason at all. Mlynar is the only liberator to target air. They could make Irene the only swordmaster to hit air with her levitate theme but no, they went into Degen also hitting air. Hell even Ascalon while not hitting air, slows air units. Antiair powerceep going on for quite some time.
When I mention that Mlynar S3 can target aerial enemies is out of nowhere, someone tells me that Silverash can too. LIKE BRO SILVERASH IS A LORD GUARD, THEY CAN DO RANGED ATTACKS!! RANGED ATTACKS CAN HIT AERIAL ENEMIES!! Cutter's skill and tachanka can also target aerial enemies. Not sure about Bibeak. Ascalon S2 movement speed reduction can actually affect aerial enemies.
@@gargutz907 this is hg's fault for not being consistent over what make an archetype that archetype? Especially when releasing new units. Because they need to make said units do different things
@@BorneoRain-l1j Operator uniqueness is one of the reason but 6* ignoring their subclass mechanic is nothing new, like mountain being one of the firsts 6* to do it.
@@mrf143 lol I forgot monten exists since I've been using exalter and zuo le so often now. Honestly that self healing and 2 blocks feels kinda cheating. Heck, even zuo le 2 block on skill is another example on their inconsistencies of archetype too lol
I’m pulling for her because I’m tired of watching guides for stages thats hard to figure out, with her I might explore the newer stages for my self first and it’s a too hard i just throw Walter at it.
The way I'm going to do it is, I'm only going to use Wis'adel for trust farms, and nowhere else. And if I want to allow myself to use her for the event, I have to prove to myself that I can clear it without her. That is, assuming I even get her.
I think using of operators like using weapons in a fight. Mlynar is like a gun, good range and damage but has a long(ish) cooldown. Surtr is like a flamethrower, more damage, longer cooldown. Degen and Ch'alter are like chainsaws good damage upclose but have short(ish) ranges. W'alter is like bringing a tank to the battle. It has good survivability, hits far powerful shots, and anything it can't hit it can run over.
I think the issues with DOS were just that most of the rewards were locked behind the most difficult stages in the gamemode and the usual design of “put harder restrictions on yourself by your choice for rewards” notion got completely reversed, and it’s a generally worse thing for most players especially when the “benefits” you pick were barely visible to notice, and they don’t give enough incentives, especialky when full rewards require you to clear everything buffless. Other than that, decent video.
the rewards were shit anyways, I dont really think a bunch of LMD and EXP cards locked behind hard stages is considered good if you have issues beating the mid stages of that game mode lol the reward for most players was the skin and dip lmao
@@oturan9728 you didnt need to touch A-3 not to mention S ... What high bar lmao and besides why thinking about new players for an endgame content event? Or do new players care to 620 for the new ccs ? And they just dont go for the skin lol
@@novyknec1113 yeah it's not for new players and yeah they don't need to touch A3 they need to touch at least A1 and the trauma stage ... Wich isn't too different tbh. You can say what you will but locking the skin aka the most interesting reward of the event so high was BS and you can't even farm the lower stage like a trial of navigator.
I feel like the thing that annoys me a little when it comes to broken units like wisadel, is not necessarily that they are broken but its that some people dont understand that u can just not use her if u want. If youre in the late game and pretty much have most of the operators in the game u have so many good picks of units that u can use if u feel like the game has gotten 'too easy'. Broken units are inevitable for all gacha. Sometime u have to play the game how u feel would gave u the most fun whether it be going with niches or even just steam rolling every stage with broken units lol.
I think people just don't really understand that after a certain point you can just pull for whatever you think is fun. Meta doesn't really matter at all aside from CC lmfao
@darkshine1836 like yeah unless it's a CC and you're going for max risk, I doubt it will effect u lmaoo even so absolutely nobody is stopping you from just not using them, i feel like this same thing happened with ling lol
I JUST want Logos... And i never got normal W, i want her Walter is too ugly, i dont care for her power so even if i get her, i wont level her I DO use "op" meta units from time to time, but Walter looks so unfun to use that i refuse
I feel like Walter's main difference from other broken characters is that she just HAS TOO MUCH STUFF - AOE that covers almost half the stage - Summons capable of tanking attacks and slowing enemies - Camouflage that protects her from almost any attack that can reach her - BIG DAMAGE - Ammo that avoids any waste of DPS and gives you more control over her rotations - Ability to hit aerial enemies, making her Archetype irrelevant - Solid damage even with the Skill disabled. You could take away half of everything she has and she would still be in the Top 5 of the best characters in the game.
I hate being new and broke from both the limited banners we just had. It feels like a sleezy cash grab this game hasn’t had as bad previously, according to veterans I talked to.
Arknight's gacha economy often feels like it's designed around the idea F2Ps shouldn't touch anything that isn't a limited banner, which only come around once every 3 months or so So having 3 limited banners almost back-to-back, with 2 being "true limited" and the 3rd being meta-defining, is BRUTAL Looking at CN we should be returning to the normal trend, plus no new unit is as gamebreaking as Wis
The point about flingers being stupid (Which is true, who the fuck thought that was a good idea?) made me think: "Why is she even a flinger? Why didn't they just make an entirely new archetype just for her? Wouldn't that give them even less reasons to hold back on her power level?"
The thing is flinger on practice is an insane archtype and their module is extremely good too It allows for immense range, aoe attacks and very good dps and attack speed on basic attacks, the Wisadels difference was that she made it ABSURDLY broken Her basic attack dps is 1.9k literally on par with most afk skills Her s3 aoe is one of the best and shockwaves simply make it more broken!
Considering the unit releases after Wisadel have been pretty tame power wise for the *most* part, I really genuinely do feel like they just wanted to make something really silly for their 5th anniversary. And like. Honestly? Sure, HG, 5 year's a big milestone. Have your cake, and eat it too. Now imagine if the Walter banner actually performed well saleswise in CN... because it sure did not, compared to other Anniversary banners-
Arknights golden age already over. More and better gacha game are out. People are bored of it, only the hardcore fan stay. Doubt Arknights gonna make much money compare to 2~3years ago.
@@NaganoharaYoimiya-bs7hb better is questionable. Arknights is niche to begin with as all tower defense game are. It's not everyone's cup of tea. Not too mention the trend of open world gacha games.
I don't know how much they get on other anniversary, But didn't Walter Banner make 35mil in china, beating Genshin in that month ? I'm not going to debate if this powercreep is good or bad for the game, But I'm sure this one powercreep banner made them a lot of money.
@@lunanueva-y3k yep they made 30mil+ for sure. And even whenever it's a limited banner Japan usually at around 8mil+. Global is a obviously behind. But limited banner will usually made 4mil+ iirc. That's a hell lot more than the majority of the gacha games in the market. All in all, for being a niche game, AK is having far longer life and loyal fans than non ak player actually think
She's still not really a gamebreaker, after playing with her on CN, she's great, but not a use operator to win level of great, at least on the end game hard stuff, where it's more about the mechanics than pure damage. And also, it's a PvE game and powercreep is not really an issue, and some people who screams that it's gonna kill the interest in the game is totally wrong, because like, Surt, Chalter, Mlynar and other meta ops are years old already and the game is still alive
Also, what I found funny is that how many people cry about Wisadel, but cool with Logos, despite him being extremely broken too, his laser of death on s2 can kill almost anyone, even with high res.
This is a good video, very centered doesnt try to overhype or downgrade, I also think Wisadel is a way to attract new players to experiencie the game (kinda) especially for those that want to beat the game and dip many gacha games have that broken unit that allows you to turn your brain off (Neuvillette in genshin, aventurine/acheron in HSR, lucy in reverse 1999 etc) and beat the stages without engaging with anything at all, and this could be good for new players or those who gave up on arknights because is a TD game because now is just a stare at the screen simulator (like most gacha games) However the obnoxious people are those who keep saying that they are skipping a whole a bunch of ops and make it look as if it was mandatory for that overglorified unit and think that she is mega required to beat content in the game, when so far even the new battle mode Vector or smh, didnt required Wisadel for the highest score or anything similar, even the new siege alter event is a joke This is mostly a challenge for the devs tbh since is on their hands to think how they want to counter that, even tho they could literlly do it by making bosses more centered in mechanics than just doing damage, an example of this was shown in the dungeonmeshi collab where you could play ceobe boss asan unique boss instead of just dealing more damage to kill it, they also did it in Hortus de escapismo making the boss, the whole stage, Wisadel cant do sht about civilians going crazy.
Having just one single massive balance outlier isn't enough to push HG to warp the game balance around that unit. What *would* have set a frightening tone for me is if the year 6 units all followed suit. This has not been the case with there having been basically zero other very strong meta candidates released since her debut. In fact, outside of Wis'adel/Logos, year 6 has actually turned out to be a rather underwhelming year of units imo. Personally, I'd argue Ines has been the most defining meta unit in basically all hardcore contexts in recent memory and the way she completely slips under the radar of almost every single player is absolutely criminal. Just look at every single piece of even hardcore-adjacent content that has been released since she debuted and how she has been an insane MVP in literally all of it. People on EN seem to only have started realising this in CC#Battleplan, where she was disgustingly fucking good yet again but this time it was very obvious the sheer value she was providing, mainly through her root and invis reveal. If you intend to play this game in any kind of hardcore context, Ines feels like the most necessitated unit and I hate that way more than Wis'adel primarily being used as Just Another Nuke™.
Im just gonna use wisadel in scenarios where I just simply cannot figure out how to beat the stages, basically using her as a last resort as I don’t like being locked out of content because a stage prior was extremely difficult
great video but there are some points I don't agree with: 1. I think saying she "breaks" the rules of her archetype is silly and very reductionist to what archetypes are, you're basically defining every flinger by just their inability to hit air but what about all the other things they have in common? The fact that all 3 of them have the same range, they have stats that are around the same range, the fact that all 3 of them have an RNG aspect inside their kit, the fact that all 3 of them have multi hit attacks or that they all have aoe attacks? Rosmontis is able to block enemies with her s3 despite being a ranged unit and no other flinger can do that, does that mean she breaks the rules of the game? or is that just another iteration of the same general concept that is the flinger archetype? Wisadel is broken and i think the game would be better without her but I don't agree that she breaks the rules of flingers just because she can hit air when we have other units like rosmontis who can do stuff no ones else in their archetype does but people don't care 2. I also disagree with the notion they're not balancing the game around her. Sure they're not making enemies to match her stats but ever since her release you can kind guess what most new bosses look like kit wise, it's usually a shield that can absorb damage to protect the boss from being obliterated by her combined with a global range attack that also damages units in the surrounding tiles so they can still damage her if the summons are present and they'll add something like a stun with it if they really want to incapacitate her like they did with the Rosmontis boss. Enemy and stage design also changed to fit her in, you can notice on a bunch of the newer events that they'll usually make enemies that try to go against her, Ulpianus event had really tanky guys to make her waste her shots on them that then spawned really fast guys that could go through her range since she takes too long to recharge or the current victoria event where they made enemies with shields to absorb her damage or like they did on the summer event where Wisadel can waste her shots on the green tiles. These changes aren't necessarily bad but over time it makes so every new event gets stale design wise and I really think the current stage design of the newer events is inferior and less creative than what we used to have back in the day. 3. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing if they were to balance the game around her more. A problem I see with the current design philosophy is that they just make everything baby easy to where it's honestly gotten boring, if you go back to shit like chap 11 that's a relatively easy chapter but if you try to just brute force a stage like h11-4 you're probably gonna get stomped (see vifer's h11-4 videos for an example of that) because you don't know the mechanics but nowadays it just feels like mechanics don't matter at all and you can just brute force anything you want, even the "hardest stages in the game", just look at h14-4 to see how that stage is a fucking joke compared to most H stages they used to release so it kinda feels like mechanics don't matter at all nowadays and everything is just bruteforce, even what used to be a pretty hard set of stages like the H stages
For me it will probably be same with how I use Surtr. I just don't use her where she is not nessessary for me. Will use Wis'adel for the funnies in IS and other places
There will without a doubt be a lot of much worse newcomers who got through the game using Wisadel and never learning the game which cause them to enjoy the game less when they're not using Wisadel, has always been a problem with any game that decide to make the earlier game much easier through more powerful means resulting in them complaining later on that the late game is no longer fun and how it becomes too complex to be worth playing. But at that point is just a "Pick your poison" thing, like how you can choose to always use guide or just drop it mid-way and being a single-player gacha game, you decide how you want to play. You can stick to always playing Flagpipe + Meta unit or just start finding new means to enjoy the game with combo you really love using. I like playing with combo like Aak-Penance or Aak-Mizuki and just avoid units who can AoE nuke 90% of the enemy in 1 skill cycle and it's fun and that's really just how I choose to play. The one part I think Wisadel will really ruin are the "Challenge Mode" type of deal because she is so powerful it puts heavy burder on the designers and it's really funny that CC Mode disappear for months after Wisadel was introduced. But it seems Arknight know how to avoid that now and that's by expanding the game out in many directions instead of just sticking to one thing and building over it. You no longer just playing "Defense the box, put Wisadel, win" anymore, you can go ahead and play IS where you can beat it without Wisadel if you know what you're doing because anyone can become broken with the right relics or go play RA mode where some characters become much stronger because they serve exactly what you need at the time to beat the objective. So Wisadel may end up being really bad for the "Challenge" side of the main game but she's not really a problem for AK as a whole as long as HG keep doing something new with it instead of just limiting the game to simple designed stage where you protect the box, kill a boss and be done with it. It only truly become a problem when they restrict themselves to that and they can only fight their own powercreep with bloated numbers just to keep it challenging. Make the journey portion fun again instead of just putting everything into a single fight between the player bloated team and the boss bloated stat.
I feel like, Wisadel is just going to be a crutch for me. If I try many times, and just cannot beat a stage, I can use her. This is the case that I've done with Chalter, Mlynar, and Degen, they are just mere crutches to get me through the hard stages. I will always try at least 5 times using units I enjoy, until I fall onto those crutches, but usually I never have to bring them into the stage at all. I say this, but I doubt ill be able to build Wisadel for like a year...
Who thought this was a good idea my problem with her is not her dmg it's the survivability why df is her summon thingy so tanky and have camo im flabbergasted
inevitably players will play in a way they find fun. wisadel isnt fun, but for me after the fun way doesnt work and im out of time i use the broken units to get it done and get the medals. but its always more fun to use the less strong units and try different tactics that doesnt brute force it. ill still pull on her banner because i want to spark for OG w so ill probably get her anyway. but i skipped mlynar because he looked boring too. saving for ops that are more fun to use. now i do have mlynar and i still use silverash instead unless i really need the damage and can't figure out any other way to beat the stage
Im pulling just bc shes limited but I have a maxed chalter and and a p3 ling and they've been collecting dust, for me, they game is way more fun when I get to think about solving a stage. Maybe new players will enjoy her a lot more, my lvl 115 account can clear anything really so fun is what I am after now.
Let's be real, creating an entire sniper class that can't hit air was a bad decision. This is them trying to fix the decision. Air cannot be blocked by anyone and can only be attacked by ranged units so making a ranged unit that cant hit them is a big downside. Flinger should have been able to hit air from the start, just make them deal 50% damage against air and make them prioritize attacking ground units. This would still retain the archetype's specialization against ground enemies but would still be somewhat usable against air. Imo, Wisadel hitting air is not that big of a deal, it's the camouflage that makes her absolutely bonkers. She has top tier damage AND survivability. I like Wisadel a lot but im sad that Rosmontis literally has no use anywhere anymore.
I feel that the main reason they make walter to hit drone is mostly bc we whine too much on how rosmontis cant hit drone which is true rosmontis should hit drone. Flinger being a failure of an archtype with 1 limited 6* at the time feel like it need a redemtion as it was not the stupid of an idea just the execution on rosmontis was bad aka rosmontis should hit drone. While it make sense that rosmontis use a shield thing to drop down on enemy and help others operator is a focus on ground unit, she DROP FROM THE SKY the damn shield so rosmontis should hit drone. Anyhow Walter is a redemtion for the class and the execution was bad too by making Walter too strong making the fact rosmontis should hit drone more apparent.
No, because most afk and such guides won't use her. Just look at current guides. It's still early operator in them. No Chalter, Texalter, etc. Limited OP are avoided. Sure someone can make a Wišalder only guides, but I doubt Kyo, or oyuki will.
@@Valiwayfer I think a good point to take from the OP’s comment is that as long as there are guides coming out that uses mostly 4-5* ops + 1-2 old 6* ops to clear event stages is fine and powercreep is not problematic since the game does not force players to pull for these overpowered ops. Which I agree, it’s a PvE game and one player’s decision on how to play the game does not affect others. As long as the game proves low-rarity ops can manage its stages, then powercreep is an irrelevant topic.
honestly im gonna try pullinb her and also not gonna use her she gets to be with mlynar in the use in emergency case while i fuck around with zuo le and vivianna to try to make them work. like she realy isnt a necessity there are still clears you can do without her she just feels like the funny unit i use whenever i want to dick around yknow
Do you put subtitles in your videos? I would like it if you consider putting it because things you say is blurry in the ears and I can't seems to understand what you say 😭 no hate it's a suggestion
I really wish that Rosmontis had gotten a toned down version of this kit instead tbh. I dislike playing meta in any game, bur beyons that, I just dont care for W very much and never have, so it's extra salt in the wound for me. I know that disliking W is a hot take and all, but ive just never really liked her, and seeing her completely dominate the meta is annoying, especially when a good half of CN content anymore on youtube is W, and now global is going to be the same. I know that my bias towards Rosmontis is a really subjective criticism, but it's how I feel. And I also feel no operator should be as broken as Walter is. I'm just glad they seem to have chilled out recently with other new six stars, and I hope we get a lot more mechanical complexity in the future to keep the battles interesting and to prevent any one operator from being a "press x to win" button everywhere you go
I don't agree with the argument that Wisadel makes hard stages too easy. Even with Wisadel you can't just turn off your brain and beat the hardest stages in the game. We are still far from that line.
Well yeah, she will still make those stages a lot easier tho, so clearing those hard stages that way will feel less rewarding. From what I've heard, the cn community literally made like no wisadel challenges to gain back their braincells lol.
I recently just started playing arknights and i saw this on my feed , but should i start caring for the "meta/powercreep" operators ? I haven't touch the gacha at all even the one with guaranteed 6 star .
It depends on what is fun for you. If you have fun deleting enemies, then you can aim for the strongest characters. If you like a challenge, then you can ignore meta/powercreep. It is best to play with the characters whose design or gameplay you like and the characters you already have. It is much more fun to learn your own playstyle as you progress in the game.
Do not. Just keep saving for Wiš'adel because she and logos will make your life easier Early on. When you're a newbie and have nothing, strong delete button is always a welcome. When you're older and have wider roster then you can start thinking if you like meta or niche.. Powecreeping in AK is so very rare. And even then old units still can clear general stages easily. Remember that Wiš'adel is the 5th anniversary banner and she was made strongest because she's a special 5th anni. In fact, after her, all the banners are underwhelming lol. So chill out
I'll still build her because she's strong and I have a lot other strong operators. Need more trust farming operators. Sometimes I like seeing big numbers. Just sometimes to lift my mood.
Issue with Wisadel comes to 2 parts: 1st part being people being hurt about meta the moment they see it, good operators will be reccomended over others and some people act like its an offensige wild thing when it isnt. 2nd part is ones that think not having Wisadel will shut down your account wich is not correct at all! I had seen both of these and i can safely say that ones on between are very rare, people that refuse good and bad operators exist and people that refuse no operator other than purest meta ones are good probably cause this dilemma
I’m just not pulling on that banner outside of the free pulls. Not worth it in my opinion. I’m at a point where I have about every operator for every situation. I don’t care for Logos enough to risk getting Walter, since I have Virtuosa for necrosis application. Walter is just too much for my tastes (too much damage, too many affects, ignores her entire archetype) and I feel her brain dead gameplay would only serve to cause me burn out from making stages too easy. I want some challenge, and, should some stage prove too much, I can always use her from the support until I clear with my own units. With all that said, I understand why people without super developed rosters would want her, and to those players, you do you if you think you absolutely need her.
"you do you if you think you absolutely need her" This is what I hate from ak fandom. The superiority over the facts they do niche knights and hating on an OP units.
@@BorneoRain-l1jTo me it just looks like people hate anything that's new. The same people who get mad about people pulling for the roach, will go and bitch that siege alter isnt broken enough
@@Miqzz lol 🤣 Well yeah that too. Whenever a new op drops people will bitch. They just want to complain lmao. I remembered that when Typhon was near, and people praising her S2, Thorns user were mad 🤣. Hating on new ops that power crept their favorite ops is a real illness in gacha community 😂
@@Miqzzfrom what I’ve seen, I think Siege alter is really strong if she hits multiple enemies with skill 3. Single target she still does sizable damage.
I think the issues with DOS were just that most of the rewards were locked behind the most difficult stages in the gamemode and the usual design of “put harder restrictions on yourself by your choice for rewards” notion got completely reversed, and it’s a generally worse thing for most players especially when the “benefits” you pick were barely visible to notice, and they don’t give enough incentives because getting full rewards require you to clear everything buffless. Other than that, decent video.
DOS rewards is a milestone right? The lasts few milestone is LMDs (~50k) right? So I thought you don't miss out too much if you can't clear the last stage and most people say it's OK if you can't clear it, even with full buff?
@@mrf143 Gamer Pride is probably one of the worst thing designer really gotta keep in mind when designing difficulty. It's like having optional superboss in the early map that you can skip, a lot of people are going to be salty they cannot beat it even if it offers no reward. And having mode like DoS being timelocked just make it a "Wow the game spit on my face because it is so poorly designed I cannot beat it despite playing for 2 whole years" type of deal. The only way to deal with that pride is to make it like CC where there's not only no reward after the trim medal but it's also you choosing to bump up the point on your own as it become a "I made my own challenge" feel instead of "HG designed this for me to overcome as a challenge"
@@Zeitzbach making rewards milestone and non-farmable is bad idea, it seems. And the new gamemode "Vector Breakthrough" is basically DOS and Interlocking Competition revamped and combined. And you can farm it from what I Heard.
