@@Whydoyoureadme Gandalf has a fakeout death but that's about it. There's that one king of that one city and gollum and saruman and that's all I can think of.
@@Jmoth792 I am SURE I had some kind of joke hidden in that message from years ago, I just can't recall now because obviously more important people died.
I was so relieved to find this video: all these years I thought Gandalf Raping Day was just some weird holiday my dad made up and made us celebrate every year. Very glad to know it's real and learn its history!
This is one of the theatre class bits we did for one of our projects where we "covered" something all those years ago. Thank you WKUK, you got us an A.
"Eagles cannot be trusted with that sort of immense power." 11 years late, granted, but I'm glad I finally found somebody who addressed this... It's not just that the power is corrupting; the Ring _amplifies_ desire based on power. The stronger you are, the more attracted you are to the Ring, and the Eagles are some of the most powerful creatures in Middle-Earth. That's why it's safest with Hobbits, the least powerful race in Middle-Earth, who can only use it to disappear. The Eagles would've been overcome by desire, and taken the Ring for themselves rather than destroy it. The Fellowship might as well have just straight-up mailed the Ring back to Sauron. And the plan to ferry Frodo wouldn't work, either. The Ring's presence would still corrupt the Eagles. Gandalf, whose power level is similar, wouldn't even _look_ at the thing. That, and Sauron has traps designed specifically to catch and kill Eagles, and he'd see them coming a mile away. They're birds the size of Boeing 747s. They're not exactly stealthy.
Couldn't they just not have told the Eagles what Frodo was carrying? Seems like all the people who reacted to it has to at least know that it was there.
Saurian did not have traps designed to kill magic eagles the size of 737s, what are you talking about? But thanks for bringing up the eagles would be corrupted
I don't want to be THAT fan, but the eagles theory wouldn't work. For one, the eagles belong to a king who would never let them get so close to something as dangerous as mordor while sauron was still around, not to mention the nazguls would have seen them and attacked putting the ring right in the hands of the enemy. They only recused frodo because the ring was gone and sauron with it, and the witch king was dead. Gandalf can only use the eagles when the king allows it.
***** He didn't pre-emptively send an eagle to save frodo. The eagles were close by when mordor fell, there was no more danger, so they made up their own minds to help save him. It's not a plot hole at all if you've even read the books.
Did you just copy and paste all that. I never said it was addressed specifically in the books, I said if you read the books you would know it's not a plot hole. All the reasons are there whether it's directly addressed or not.
I was about to post something like this. Thank you. I hate it when people bring the eagle thing up. It is so stupid. We see that sauron has fucking dragons and shit in the movie. He would just send them to rip the eagles apart. I don't understand how any logical person thinks that the eagles would be able to make it all the way to Mt Doom, surrounded by dragons, Ring Wraiths riding dragons, and an all seeing eye that you cannot escape the gaze of while in the sky.
it would work, if that would be a plot. I'm not a big expert, but didn't Frodo hide under tree from nazgul, so they can't see everything (at least when author don't want)? So in short - eagles could work, but journey wouldn't be main story, so these books should be about something else.
Of course he did, it is a rather stupid question after all. The Fellowship was formed in the first place for the exact reason why they didn't just carry the Ring via Eagles: IT WAS A STEALTH MISSION. The whole idea of sending only nine fucks with a magical nuke is that a higher squad would instantly attract attention from Sauron's forces. It's all spelled out in the text of the book. And while I haven't seen the movie in a while (which is something I'll rectify soon), I'm pretty sure it was spelled out there too.
@@AllardRT That is an explanation that not even Tolkien gave. Fans have come up with all kinds of reasons, also that the ring would have corrupted the eagles, all good ideas, but Tolkien hated the question because it exposed the flaw in his story. He just wanted people to go with it. Plenty of great stories have plot holes, that's because they are not real and even the best writer can't cover all the bases. There was a time, not too long ago, when people overlooked plot-holes and just enjoyed a thing. Nowdays fans need their pretend worlds to be as real as possible, so they can disappear into it.
@@MegaRudeBoy69 Ummm, yes, he did give this explanation, I just told you that it's in the book. It's literally in the text. You can read it and it's there: the Fellowship is supposed to be a stealth mission, hence why only nine guys and not a bigger force. It's spelled out in no uncertain terms. Giant fuck-off eagles does not a stealth mission make. It's not a plot hole, it's a failure to read and comprehend. On the fans' part as well, since they come up with all sorts of stupid convoluted explanations when a plain practical one was in the text all along.
Love how they could have just used Legolas but nope, one of them just has to be playing a woman in every skit even if that character never interacted with Gandalf once in the books or movies lol
He's not magic and thus defenceless, but he very much can summon giant eagles, and thus could've done their whole quest for them, and then he survives centuries of abuse. Watched this video I don't even know how many times and this is the first time I've noticed that.
1) Gandalf should be white here, Gandalf the gray died in Moria. 2) The Nazgul had flying beasts that patrolled Mordor, which are described as being very capable of killing eagles, with the death of the one ring their lesser rings lost their power which makes them dead and eagles are safe to fly into Mordor. 3) Eagles are their own race, saying just make the eagles do it is like saying just make the elves do it. They probably didn't want to go on a suicide mission, which is what everybody thought it was.
I all truth the ring corrupts people with power, which is why the ring was given to the weakest race. The eagles are second in power only to the Maiar, those like Gandalf. It would have been much to tempting, as even Gandalf, who knows Sauron and his tricks, was strongly tempted by its mear presence.
@@Destroyahx2 That and the fact that the mission required the utmost secrecy. Nazguls who rode the fellbeasts would've spotted the eagles. That's also the reason they didn't give the ring to Glorfindel, one of the most powerful elves ever and the guy who single handely killed a Balrog back in the day. There's also the convenient answer regarding the character of the eagles: they're just too proud. Eagles only respond to Manwë, the greatest vala, and sometimes do favours to other great beings, such as Gandalf or Galadriel.
The Eye of Sauron would have seen the Eagle aprotching.In the movie when Frodo was in the Eye's sight he instantly got dark thoughts.If they were flying on an eagle,the Eye would have surely Corrupted Frodo to the core.Dispite many people overlooking that fact,parodies of it are often hilarious and this one is my favorite.Leave it to WKUK to perfect a parody :D
This sketch is completely ridiculous and horrifying. At the end of the lord of the rings gandalf is not gandalf the grey he's gandalf the white after fighting the balrog. Such a horrible sketch WKUK should be ashamed
They couldn't use the eagles because Sauron had "dragons" when the quest started. And once they had killed them "dragons" Frodo and Sam had been separated and did their stealthy stuff. Eagles only found them 'cause they knew where the hobbits would be.
