@@NordicRC Hello Mikael, is the wltoys a979b any good out of the box? I heard some people saying that the gear boxes were broken after a few minutes...
Nice comparison and tips Mikael. As for the screws I read on a Tamiya forum some people suggesting the use of super glue. They reckon it does not have any affect on the plastic and acts like thread-lock. I haven't tried it as yet myself though.
Yeah, it actually works fine. I have only used it to re-tread some servo mounts, but those hold up fine. Maybe it could be a good idea with this one too. To tighten the thread. Thanks for the suggestion, Rob.
Very interesting Mikael! There are some quirky design issues with these little RCs! Step-screws would sort out the suspension binding issues, if you could find the correct fit. And I think there must be a simple way to make those shocks actually provide some damping, maybe just using some really thick oil to slow those metal pistons down? I had a similar issue with some Turnigy shocks I bought - initially I used the Tamiya soft damper oil I had = no damping at all! I got some 1000 weight oil, poured it in and - perfect! A shock with small damping holes and thin oil performs similarly to a shock with bigger damping holes and thick oil. The other bonus of using thick oil is it is less likely to escape past the shock seals. Nice comparison and before/after shots! Enjoyed this mate - thumbs up my friend ;D
Thanks, Mark. Ahh, yeah. I regretted not trying out some even harder oil, as soon as I saw the result. Hopefully I got some more A959s coming in so I think I will try it on those. Good to hear it actually works. Never had any luck myself, switching oils. For me fine tuning the piston and springs brings immidiate results. But thanks for the tip. Think I will try some hard oil :-)
Yeah, what I learned doing this was that the oil was too thin for those screwhead-pistons. I would definitely use something like 800, 900 or 10009 next time.
@@NordicRC does 10009 shock oil even exist? If so the spring force on an a959 probably isn't enough to uncompress after the shock has been compressed because it has to push all that oil and it's so thick LOL 😂
@@silviamills5218 I guess when you go above 1000 it is rated as differential silicone oil and not shock silicone oil. You can actually get differential oil up to 100.000 :-)
I just got one of these. First use awesome!! Went to use it a second time as in the next day and it broken. Only have steering no drive at all... I guessed for a cheapie I’d get a year not 10mins
The shock pistons must letting too much oil passed. Having to keep tightening screws that is a bore and had a issue like yours that you can over do that so things bind.
Yeah, exactely. The small screw heads doesn’t really work like a good piston. But it’s always a bit harder to start experimenting with these kind of pistons. Tamiya does it too sometimes. Don’t know why. Maybe a lot cheaper than a changable piston head. And yes, no way getting around tightening screws after a run with these. Sadly they have to be quite loose, if one wants them not to bind.
Just an idea... Is there the possibility to put a washer below those screw heads in the pistons? Maybe trying different washer sizes you'll find the one letting the right amount of gap to make the oil actually do its work...
Got my self the a959b got some shock oil for the standard shocks I have atm got the front ls feeling good it’s dampening nice but the rear still feels the same and that’s me using 80wt shock oil. What am I doing wrong someone please shed some light . Thanks
re hi de france, what would you advise me as small rc 1/16, 1/18, for a small garden? i hesitate between a95B9 / 969B and 979B, which one would be best, or what other models would you advise me?
Hi friend! For me, for a small garden, I wouldn't pick one of these WLToys. They are too fast and small and frankly, runs better on flat surfaces than real off road. In my humble opinion. I'm not sure what would be the greatest garden basher. I actually use 1/10 Tamiya WR-01 and WT-01 Monster Trucks for my very small garden. They are cheap, and very low geared, so plenty of torque and limited top speed. But that's sort of a nerdy Tamiya enthusiast Monster Truck-thing:-) I suspect that there's better and more modern 1/16 and 1/18 scales. Or maybe some of the low geared 1/12 scale buggies/desert trucks from WLToys, HBS etc. But you could always try one of the WLToys A9X9. They are cheap and if they doesn't work out in the garden you can always take them to the streets and try another for the garden.
Levers? The spacers? They are just there to compress the springs a bit. It's called preload. You fine tune your springs to make them harder to compress, to raise the rear a bit (because the rear usually gets a lot of power and compress a lot with the throttle). Many have a harder preload on the rear than in the front. And congrats! Hope you will have fun with it!
Nice! I just re-build my Dark Impact once again. Put it back to stock conditions, stock parts and a brushed Tamiya motor. Used some of it’s upgrades for my new brushless DF-03MS. Video series coming up sometime in the future. So much footage to edit down into shorter versions 😄
What you think about metal version of WLToys A9*9? I will create metal monster from scratch with simple brushless motor. Maybe JLB J3Speed is more reasonable and universal?
I think the all metal upgraded WLToys projects I’ve seen look like fun projects. But I don’t think it will add more durability or capabilities to the car. More likely it slows the car down (+ weight) and decreases the durability (metal will bend, plastic is flexible). I got an upgrade series coming on the A959. Don’t think I will be upgrading a lot to metal. Maybe a few parts. I will do a mild brushless upgrade too. About the JLB, I have no personal experience, sorry I couldn’t help more. But all metal upgrades are a lot of fun ☺️
Thanks for the advice! Yeah, just got a load of new hard oil, I will try out on my new A959’s (see new video series in my channel). Hope it will work out better than this try with too soft oil ☺️
Ah all that effort and the dampers are still rubbish 🙁 Don't think that the pistons fit very well. I was watching this as my neighbour was asking me to recommend an RC for her 7 year old son. I thought about this but can't imagine a kid keeping up with the maintenance. Might be too quick anyway. Will go and look at those cheap crawlers you were reviewing before. Are they reliable? Anyway informative vid thanks mate 😀
Ahh, yeah, but I was just having fun, checking if thise actually where oil filled shocks. Didn't expect wonders. If I ever open them again, I will try some real real heavy oil, as others suggested it. That might compensate for the little screw-head-piston. Nahh, I don't think these are for the very young ones. Although mine has held up fine, I imagine that a wrong turn into a curb will break something with +50 kph. And +50 will maybe also break a kid. Huh. I would recommend these for 14+ years. It's the same with the WPL crawlers, I take it it is those you are referring to. Mine has not broken, and my 3 year old has had a lot of fun with them. But they are not the greatest quality, so they will probably eventually brake. So I would only recommend those to kids who have parents willing to have fun fixing them :-)
Yeah, that's the way to go I discovered when doing this video and receiving great comments with the tip. Already got plans for a video trying out some harder oil, like #1000. Hopefully it will work :-)
I bought the buggy model for my son, and shortly thereafter the plastic "A frame" in the front, that holds the front wheel suspension up, broke. I tried supergluing it, but it didn't hold up upon driving. Is it worth it to try and get a replacement part, or do you think the car is totaled?
We've had one of the monster truck ones for over 2 years now , I paid £40 delivered and it's been abused by my son and I , best car for the money I think , the only thing that's gone in 2 years was a oring in front shock split and my son went through a football net and it snapped the front u/j off the diff , new dog job done , it's done some serious work , been sunk in puddles by my son and been launched through the air every time it's used , nothing is a durable as these especially for the money
Yeah I was pretty astonished about the durability too, when I took these out. I’ve had a fair share of tumbles on tarmac and a lot of jumps (see my other videos with them) and nothing has broken yet :-)
@@NordicRC I think money wise you can't go wrong , I wanted to get my son into tamiyas like most of us started at , we bought one, built it together but it won't take the stick these will, these are on par with 1/8 nitro buggys strength wise , infact better , I saw a video of one on 3s lipo earlier and it was mental
Will Traxxas 10K work for shock oil? New to more hobby-level rc cars and know nothing of shock oils, but I have spare 10K for my Rubik's Cubes and just barely ordered this rc car! :)
It should definitely be a lot harder than the oil I tried here. I am not familiar with Traxxas' terms, but I would go with some 1000# oil if I should do it again :-) Hope you will have fun with it, Isaac!
Thanks for watching and all the comments, Simon! After this test with the soft oil, I recommend getting some much harder. Like the Tamiya #1000 hard damper oil, or something similar hard oil.
I’m looking at this and the HBX rampage. I’m leaning towards this because of the upgrades, but I like the wheels on the HBX better, haha!I know, that’s kinda lame.
The rampage looks very nice too. If I remember correctly it comes stock with a low voltage battery though. One of the nice things with these are the stock LiPo battery. And nothing lame about liking wheels better than others. They are a quite essential cool-ness factor on cars 😃
That could be cool, yes. You can always just start with the stock battery, and then after a few runs you can see what you would like to upgrade or not.
Uhh, at high speed my A979-B would never go straight too. It's hard to say how to repair it when not seeing the car. But check out the manual with the exploded parts and find a spare part.
@@kamilmanan4244 Ahh yeah, you mean for the upper arms? That upgrade are on my list too. And some toe-in on the front tires would sure help it make go straight. Although it would probably also put down the durability in jumps/crashes down a bit too, since the stock upper arms are quite flexible.
@@NordicRC yeah that one. apologize as I don't know the correct term for it. today is the car first run. it will steer left each time I use throttle. now I'm not sure whether it ran out of battery or the motor burnt. 😂
Yeah, these cars have a mind of their own when reaching top speed. One of the reasons I prefer the standard A959. More controllable. The B-versions has a very limited run time, caused by the high gearing and 540 motor (about 5-6 minutes). Maybe it was just the LiPo cut off on yours? Though the motor and ESC get’s really warm so there is always a potential for frying them.
Thank you for your informative video. I would have liked to see how they ran after that. You wasted too much time videoing you fiddling with it and sorting out its flaws and not enough time on showing everyone how it worked. Was it worth it?
@@NordicRC Thank you. The monster truck version seems to be too fast and spends a lot of time on their roof. I feel it is a waste of time making a monster truck that small so fast. Thank you again for your video. I know not to bother buying one of them.
Garbage is a strong negative word. All models should be compared to the price. The cheap ones (like this) are not for everybody, the expensive ones are not for everybody too. Wheel play and tightening of screws though, is a general issue for many models though, also some of the more expensive (which I have also tested). And many more expensive models come with friction shocks, so personally I prefer re-filling oil in oil filled shocks than buying new oil filled shocks. The oil needs to be a lot harder than the one I tested in this video though. But yes, every model is not for everybody 🙃
I think it’s exactly like that :-) Maybe it’s like a cool Chinese/Japanese symbol that people in the Western world have on their shirts, or wall, but have no clue what means. But since they plan to sell it all around the world I just don’t get why they don’t call up an English speaking friend and ask him of any ideas first. It’s hilarious :-)
