wolverine faces on the Xfactor team in this xmen season 3 ep15 called cold comfort. notice how the Xfactor is simiular to the Xmen in numbers and fighting style. I like it! en.wikipedia.or...)
Yeah, Wolverine's line about his face was a good one. I wish we could have seen his line when X-Factor was introduced and before they parted ways Wolverine called them "bunch of rookies." 🤣
For me Rogue was the biggest offense. In the cartoon she was a confident badass, her movie counterpart was the exact opposite. Like wtf were they thinking?
@@Bingo_the_Pug ugh🤮 Yes, first they put her in Jubilee's place, then they made her more or less useless. Anna is a good actress, but that was a bad role for her. I feel just as strongly about Storm. Halle Berry was SO wrong for Storm.
@@Bingo_the_Pug The difference was that the cartoon Rogue had had many years more experience. The only reason she could fly was because she'd absorbed Ms Marvel's powers (as well as her soul!)
And I swear, Scott better find out Alex is his brother in X-Men 97. I'd love the full family drama to get dragged out too with Gabriel and Adam making appearances.
In this show, Cyclops was separated from his family at a very early age, so he doesn't know Corsair is his father and Havok is his brother, he and Corsair find out who the other are at a later point in the series, but he never learns the truth about Havok, their powers being innefective might give a clue to the viewer but it could be inferred that in the heat of the battle Cyclops wasn't thinking on such a thing. The XFactor team wasn't known for the XMen since it was a secret operations team made by the government, Ice Man left the XMen and joined XFactor because he felt smothered and had a crush on Polaris, I assume the cast was big enough so they had to cut some XMen members to avoid scattering the stories too much, though those characters had episodes centered on them at some points (Colossus and Nightcrawler for example)
Thanks for the history lesson. There's an interaction similar to the one in this cartoon between Cyclops and Havoc, in the X-Men Legends video game. Cyclops and Havoc's powers can't hurt each other because they're brothers.
yep, this was the best thing about that episode, that they've never explained why they powers didn't work on each other. I also liked the moment in "Time Fugitives" when Cable requested an information about X-men from his super-future-pc and immidiately asked to skip Cyclops and Jean Grey, because he knows about them.
@@Levelord92 Great memory you have considering this show was over 20 years ago. I watch "Time Fugitives" 20 years ago, but when you mentioned Cable skip Cyclops and Jean, I immediately recall what you talk about. Thanks brother.
1:20 "Your powers could never hurt me little brother." "Nor could yours hurt me big brother." Banshee vs Black Tom. Always loved this underplayed idea that despite powers being unrelated, when DNA is shared, there is some form of immunity.
Haha, or how useless Jean Grey seems to be? All stretched out on Saturday mornings as a kid, I never realized it, but condensed in a binge, it's pretty hard to ignore how may times she passes out, trips over something or gets pushed over with the greatest of ease... then stays down.
You're in luck. Apparently, this show is about to be continued into a new series ... !! The name is going to be "X-Men '97!", to signify the year the original series ended -- Look it up!
@@ChrisConnolly-Mr.C-Dives-In don't keep your hopes up, considering wbat the industry nowadays. They'll just ruin the franchise. There's already an abundance of ruined franchises being made for nostalgia factor. Bobby Drake will never be the same again. Xmen 97 is ok for what it is, nood need for a continuation.
@@OptimusWombat actually, it mostly does. Scott’s powers don’t work on Alex in this continuity and vice versa, that should have been the biggest clue to them about familial ties. It was the same with Banshee and his brother.
I loved 90s X-Factor in the comics. Looking back on it, I wish they had used this as an opportunity for a spinoff X-Factor animated series. (It might be asking too much for X-Force as well, but that's another day.) Here's hoping when they revive X-Men the Animated series they consider spinoffs like that. The storylines might not always have been completely accurate to the comics, but the look, tone, and story felt like they might as well have come straight from the comic books. They got it right.
It was never going to happen because marvel file for bankruptcy in 1997 and Disney bought them that’s why the X-Men series was sure well season five with short season five only has six episodes
Really saddens me that Iceman wasn’t apart of the main cast and in more episodes in this series. Were any other fans watching at the time curious as to why he wasn’t included more ? Edit: same with angel, nightcrawler, colossus, kitty pride
No but they made up for with x men evolution we get to see nearly all the X factor members at the Xavier school including forge. Notable was multiple man, wolvesbane,
Ikr, with their team as is (Cyclops, Jean Grey, & Beast) with Bobby officially joining the team, but have a storyline of looking to recruit Angel/Archangel who's trying to break away from Apocalypse's control.
The only thing I miss about the 90's cartoon vs X-Men 97 is the sound effects. The sound of Wolverine drawing his claws and Cyclops's optic blasts, and the strange metallic reverberating sounds of weapons being fired. They had a distinct level of character to them.
I remember seeing this before I got into comics, and I was like "Why didn't cyclops' attack hurt that guy". Then I found out and the whole scene makes no sense, that they didn't know each other.
Ahhh the good old days when I was in my early 20s working at TOYS R US....I love the X-Men, I just wished they had ice man on the show more. And how could the X-Men not know x factor??? They are or were in the same school at one point....lol...🤷🏻♂️👍🏻
Bobby is such a good fit with the rest of the team that it perplexes me why he didn't make the cut as a regular on this show. They could've done some creative things with his powers and adapt the 90s storyline with Emma Frost in which he stopped using boundaries
I have a soft spot for 90s era PAD & Stroman X-Factor . heck i even have an old toy biz action figure of Strong Guy and one of my 1st secondary x-men books was an mid 90s ( like either 93 or 94 ) issue of X-Factor ( post PAD and Stroman ) with occasional art by Joey Q ( joe quesada ) and Jan Duursema . but i like the cast of Wolfsbane , havok , strong guy , polaris ,quicksilver ( when he`s not with the avengers ) and Val Cooper also Random and Forge on the team . I hope that one day they can make the team into a Netflix show . but i like the costumes that was designed by Larry Stroman ( and later additions by Joe Quesada , Jan Duursema , Jeff Matsuda to name a few ) during the 90s so very striking and iconic . :)
Long View yeh that waas they hey-day of CLASSIC X-MEN! they were @ the height of their popularity culminating with the 1st X-Men movie. after the 2nd, X-Men comic sales started nosediving its why they felt the need to kill Wolverine off etc.
The actor who played Quicksilver in the Fox/Xmen universe movies played Pietro in the MCU version in Wandavision. Speculating that this would be the real introduction to the multiverse (hence bringing in the X-men). The whole thing was a bait and switch
It's kind of funny how Cyclops just never realized that he just took out his own brother and never knew it but in all fairness Havoc was trying to kill him first and he didn't realize that Cyclops is his older brother
@@sabaoth95 thanks better than season five that looked like garbage. This series really was the perfect mix, great writing, great animation, amazing and perfectly cast voice actors
This was my favorite episode in the original series. The one thing I hated was that it ignored the fact that Cyclops and Havok are brothers, which partly explains why their powers don’t work on each other.
This was one of the best episodes of the show... too bad it came so late in the production cycle, a season built around X-Force vs Xmen would have been so much better than the countless episodes they wasted on the phoenix saga
