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Woman Kills Lunch Guests with "Store-Bought" Poisonous Mushrooms | Erin Patterson Case Analysis 

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@sgaia
@sgaia Год назад
“All Fungi are edible. Some fungi are only edible once.”: Terry Pratchett
@bthomson
@bthomson Год назад
You can say that again!
@GrumpSkull
@GrumpSkull Год назад
The death cap fungi is a real party pooper.
@DavianSinner
@DavianSinner Год назад
Really, anything is edible once.
@mwituamweene9850
@mwituamweene9850 Год назад
lol
@GrumpSkull
@GrumpSkull Год назад
@@DavianSinner I once ate clown food from a drive through restaurant. It made me feel funny so never went back.
@jenna2431
@jenna2431 Год назад
What I learned from this: If your lunch host has a different plate of food, push away from the table.
@Anna_Key
@Anna_Key Год назад
And offer to swap meals, or share your plate with their kids and see how they react. 👀
@tinkerstrade3553
@tinkerstrade3553 Год назад
It was for these very reason that in times past, people would "braek bread" together . It was euphemistically seen as sharing. But the purpose was to establish mutual trust by verification.
@angec590
@angec590 Год назад
Exactly!!
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Год назад
Remember the scene from Princess Bride? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sE2qa96pq8I.html
@Redspeciality
@Redspeciality Год назад
I’ll have what she is having
@Dargyful
@Dargyful Год назад
Her ex husband was admitted to hospital last year and almost died from food poisoning. Too many ‘coincidences ‘ in this story
@opallunar
@opallunar 11 месяцев назад
And both her parents died mysteriously in 2019. She benefited financially from that... sus
@jennibarnes140
@jennibarnes140 11 месяцев назад
​@opallunar8824 omg and they went to lunch at hers? A disgruntled daughter in law, and grand kids were mysteriously sent to movies 🎬 😮
@wyldroselee6446
@wyldroselee6446 11 месяцев назад
But he had 3 surgeries. You don't have surgery for food poisoning.
@GeeeAus
@GeeeAus 11 месяцев назад
@@wyldroselee6446 You do if the toxin that you and just without knowing it has caused physical damage to your gut.
@zanzah_
@zanzah_ 11 месяцев назад
​@wyldroselee6446 lllooolll organs rupture and tear and yes surgery is required. Erin is Autistic af!
@betelgeuse1968
@betelgeuse1968 Год назад
"Simon has indicated he has no intention of reuniting with Erin. This may be because Simon has a desire to continue living." Hilarious!
@Lena-jx9st
@Lena-jx9st 11 месяцев назад
Dr Grande is hilarious! The way he delivers the lines with such a dead pan expression is hysterical! SO funny!
@wyldroselee6446
@wyldroselee6446 11 месяцев назад
I've watched this guy cover murders quite a few times but never heard him make jokes all the way through. It's incredibly insensitive. Simon's parents and aunty just died a horrible death and his uncle is just hanging on. Who makes jokes about that?? I don't get how so many commenters think this is a good comedy sketch. It's horrible!
@Gigiwalters
@Gigiwalters 11 месяцев назад
She made a new meal at left the others to die. Because she wanted to get back with her ex but she previously made a meal and he almost died from fungi. She needs to be stopped
@wyldroselee6446
@wyldroselee6446 11 месяцев назад
@@Gigiwalters sounds like you know more than the doctors who examined and tested him for weeks in the hospital. This is called MISINFORMATION.
@rosieHolliday5887
@rosieHolliday5887 11 месяцев назад
I literally LOL'D at that
@kenmore01
@kenmore01 Год назад
I think it's awesome that supermarkets clearly label foods as fatal or non-fatal! It takes the guesswork out of it.
@TutuFerret
@TutuFerret Год назад
Mine usually labels them by type and I've never seen "death cap" in amongst the buttons & shiitake. In my experience they tend not to stock death caps, probably because they don't get a lot of repeat sales.
@deborl7278
@deborl7278 Год назад
​@@TutuFerretwhy would a grocery store even have poisonous mushrooms for sale ?
@madeleineprice3556
@madeleineprice3556 Год назад
@@deborl7278I am sure there’s some sort of sarcasm in the original post, but besides that, why would a store that sells food also sell a potentially poisonous edible substance?
@terryrobinson4197
@terryrobinson4197 Год назад
i switch the labels just to mess with people
@madeleineprice3556
@madeleineprice3556 Год назад
@@terryrobinson4197it’s the only way to ensure the fittest survive
@gabbyyyyy5452
@gabbyyyyy5452 Год назад
She didn’t even taste the food she was cooking ? Who serves a meal at a dinner party they themselves wouldn’t eat? guilty
@Nylak-Otter
@Nylak-Otter Год назад
I cook meat very well (and have taken meat science classes in university, from raising the livestock all the way to serving it), and I'm a vegetarian with vegan inclinations. I cook it for family events when requested a couple times a year. When I started, my very carnivorous best friend (now fiancée) would taste test it for me and clean up the leavings with my dogs. I'm at the point where taste testing is no longer required, since the results are consistent. If I change anything, it's because I'm following personal feedback, a suggestion, or a new and improved method that is backed up by biology and the science of processing skeletal muscle for consumption. I'm not defending her. I'm just saying.
@annazaman9657
@annazaman9657 Год назад
Great question. As a cook I taste everything I make. Otherwise how would you know if it tastes good.
@ieattofu68
@ieattofu68 Год назад
It's all so obvious...
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 Год назад
@@Nylak-Otter You took culinary classes and you're a vegetarian so that alone makes sense why you don't taste test. She's neither so it makes no sense 👎
@Nylak-Otter
@Nylak-Otter Год назад
@@GameChanger597 I was providing an example to answer the question, not a solution to the situation. I also said I wasn't defending her. If I were to get scenario-specific, I might argue that she possibly dislikes beef, but happened to know that it was a family favorite of her ex's. 🤷‍♀️ Without more information, I feel like that would be a bold assumption for me to suggest, though. Who knows what (if anything) was going through her head. 😅 (Also, it wasn't really a culinary class; it was for my animal science degree, since I specialized in domesticated animal behavior and livestock reproduction. I'm a terrible cook except for meat now, much to my disappointment. Although apparently I can cook tofu to taste and feel just like chicken! 🤣)
@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo 11 месяцев назад
We are all still looking for other people affected by these 'store purchased' deadly mushrooms. Incredible that Erin was so unlucky in what she grabbed. She also cries without any tears, and maybe that's more disturbing.
@hoolydooly5799
@hoolydooly5799 11 месяцев назад
Rubbish. She is exhausted. A lot of gossip not facts. How about letting the police finish their work. As police said the media should not to ask townies for opinions.
@Aus200
@Aus200 11 месяцев назад
​@@hoolydooly5799she sounds like a big idiot. Even if it was an accident, she still needs to be locked up for a long time.
@desireesalas5820
@desireesalas5820 11 месяцев назад
According to one of the Daily Mail articles I had read, she had a portion of them saved in the fridge and another portion had been foraged by her.
@RamsTheNameCom
@RamsTheNameCom 11 месяцев назад
Well that was a surprising "blast from the past"... I remember watching some of your youtube channel content back around 2011. I believe a bot under your name "Friend Me" on youtube and that's how I became aware of your content. But yeah, she clearly didn't buy from the store. Likely either an amateur mushroom hunter or someone who intentionally wanted to kill her ex husband and his parents.
@kstephenson9465
@kstephenson9465 11 месяцев назад
Correct! Besides no one cooks a western dish like Beef Wellington with “Asian mushrooms” think she’s telling a porky 🙄
@williewonka6694
@williewonka6694 11 месяцев назад
Given the value of the apartment she inherited, probably time to review, rather closely, the deaths of her parents, as well.
@witchysav3464
@witchysav3464 11 месяцев назад
Oh my GOD 👀
@meatman2024
@meatman2024 11 месяцев назад
Daaaamn 🤔
@user-xb8tc3tc8t
@user-xb8tc3tc8t 11 месяцев назад
Guilty, YES, sick, YES. What do you do?
@garysimon7765
@garysimon7765 11 месяцев назад
Good one ! 😮
@danielleelias685
@danielleelias685 10 месяцев назад
That's what I was thinking when I heard her parents died and she inherited such a big expensive house.
@kevinl7426
@kevinl7426 Год назад
I'm an experienced forager. I have looked all over the the "fatal" mushroom section in the store and this mushroom is not sold commercially. This mushroom only looks edible if you are very poor at identification. No, you don't have to look far to find it. Amatoxin poisoning is a horrible, painful way to go as the cause of death is organ failure. She had to search to find these. Guilty!
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 Год назад
The husband was previously in a coma for 16 days after injesting poison and had major surgery on his intestines.
@jasonphillips5816
@jasonphillips5816 Год назад
Which do you think they are? Death cap can normally be identified by an ammonia smell, but are supposed to taste ok when cooked so probably wouldn't be noticed by the person eating them, Destroying Angel, Webcap Fools Conecap etc aren't supposed to taste nice, I'm in the UK so Australia has species i'm not familiar with.
@annak8755
@annak8755 Год назад
I've had food poisoning from mushrooms because they either weren't correctly prepared/ in sanitary conditions or were not correctly refrigerated. However, I am sure store bought mushrooms are all edible, because they are grown by farmers. No reasonable business person would prefer walking for hours in the forest foraging to growing your own in conditions you can control, meaning that nobody would even think about growing inedible ones.
@EChan-eu2co
@EChan-eu2co Год назад
@@annak8755 unless it came from a careless farmer. I looked up mushroom growing once and you're supposed to check that no poisonous ones grew in like weeds. Death caps though grow under trees and have a symbiotic relationship with those trees so probably not them.
@cathybannister4149
@cathybannister4149 Год назад
​@@jasonphillips5816Deathcaps are distinguished from field mushrooms in Australia by having cream gills and thinner stems but look identical from the top. Both field and deathcap grow in our backyard and in rural Victoria would be very common.
@Patrick-il4es
@Patrick-il4es Год назад
(1) She claims she bought the mushrooms at a local store, but no one else in the community that shopped there experienced any poisoning. (2) Her guests ate the mushrooms, but she and her children ate a separate meal. (3) There is reason to suggest she may have poisoned her former husband, but he survived. (4) There is evidence that she studied poisonous mushroom information prior to the poisoning of her guests. Yep, she's innocent ! ! ! ! ! !
@andyjcoop
@andyjcoop Год назад
Innocent until proven guilty, let's be careful now.
@cazyaz523
@cazyaz523 Год назад
Innocent until proven guilty - I agree but the inference here is overwhelming.
@aimeem8156
@aimeem8156 Год назад
No it’s not looking good for this woman.
@mindeyethemasterscreen2712
@mindeyethemasterscreen2712 Год назад
She also threw out the cooking device she cooked the meal with the next day AND she also hated the step mother cussing her in public.
@Gothymothmoth
@Gothymothmoth Год назад
yeah she didn't eat,taste or awhat not with the food and got rid of what she used to make it@@mindeyethemasterscreen2712
@markalvarado3265
@markalvarado3265 Год назад
GUILTY! Erin wanted to take out the family of the husband and him too probably. Separate meal for her and her kids?! Bought the bad mushrooms at the store?! You've got to be kidding me!!! A real sicko.
@redfred452
@redfred452 11 месяцев назад
she is guilty as sin it's self, she lied about eating the mushrooms, at the hospital they knew she was not poisoned or showed no signs of being poisoned so they sent her home and gave her some pills for her liver to allay her fake fears, she will go down for this i hope !!!
@freespirit1411
@freespirit1411 11 месяцев назад
Is this guy serious? Quote "Everyone knows supermarkets mark the mushrooms fatal & not fatal" 😳 Who would buy the fatal ones? Why would they be selling them? Ridiculous statement 😆
@frankg882
@frankg882 11 месяцев назад
​@@freespirit1411 jokes bro, it was a joke
@AnneAlready
@AnneAlready 11 месяцев назад
@@freespirit1411 LOL, you missed the dry/ironic humor there. :P
@philanders3705
@philanders3705 11 месяцев назад
​@@freespirit1411it took a bit for me to pick up on his sense of humor. At first I was thinking who is this monotone weirdo, but soon realized he's actually quite funny. Driest humor on the internet...
@rozzyosbourne1057
@rozzyosbourne1057 Год назад
She killed them on purpose. She avoided the food and so did her kids. CRYing with NO TEARS. Guilty AF!!!!!😮 👩‍⚖️
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 11 месяцев назад
It's too bad that's not a verdict a jury can come back with. Judge: "Has the jury reached a verdict?" Jury spokesman: "We have, Your Honor." Judge: "And what is your verdict?" Jury spokesman: "Guilty AF, Your Honor."
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 11 месяцев назад
“Not guilty but extremely sus, your honor.” And if you’re deemed “sus” by your peers then double jeopardy is thrown out the window and could face another trial. lol.
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 11 месяцев назад
@@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Your way would actually be a great improvement! Not Guilty: B.E.S. Yes, that should be real.
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 11 месяцев назад
@@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Maybe you'd get like 5 years of guaranteed freedom to try to find the "real killer."
@Lea_1113
@Lea_1113 10 месяцев назад
She actually claimed to have eaten the meal and gone to hospital herself. Her kids apparently don't like mushrooms so she picked them out. Yeah right but that's her claim
@mattosborne1366
@mattosborne1366 Год назад
It's always weird when people "sob" and "cry" but there's no actual tears.
@silentnight9655
@silentnight9655 Год назад
Loll.
@johncollins3391
@johncollins3391 Год назад
Yes i noticed that.
@rachaelh9193
@rachaelh9193 Год назад
That’s the first time i thought she was guilty
@MR-gl9xu
@MR-gl9xu Год назад
Plus she wiped away the nonexistent tears!!! 🤔
@MattExzy
@MattExzy Год назад
I'm glad I'm not the only one that picked up on her sus body language. She kept looking at her fingers after she 'wiped' her eyes to accentuate that they were really tears, when they weren't. High blink rate as well, consistent with hiding true feelings. Then when she walked off, all of her emotion instantly melted away. Something is way off.
@jazzymoni7750
@jazzymoni7750 Год назад
I always pass over the "fatal mushrooms" section at the grocery store. I wonder why she grabbed them?
@tumekeehoa3121
@tumekeehoa3121 Год назад
She needed to find a substitute for the sold out lethal mushrooms.
@HLB313
@HLB313 Год назад
Maybe they were discounted
@zoer7338
@zoer7338 Год назад
You guys are *funny*! 😅
@donnaevans3062
@donnaevans3062 Год назад
That fatal part is a deal breaker for me too!!!!
@venderstrat
@venderstrat Год назад
Could they have been marked 'reduced'?
@DianneRussell-jb5le
@DianneRussell-jb5le Год назад
She reminds me of Kathy Bates character in Misery. Here is a question ? How did the parents die. It seems unusual they are both dead. Erin is only in her 40s. Detectives need to go right into her past. Hey Hollywood, this would make a block buster of a movie.
@EXROBOWIDOW
@EXROBOWIDOW 11 месяцев назад
Which means her parents were likely in their 60s or older. Things like heart problems, diabetes, and cancer can all start in the 50s and even younger. Before modern medicine, a lot of people died at a younger age. Modern medicine can't make everybody live longer.
@giftofthewild6665
@giftofthewild6665 11 месяцев назад
​@EXROBOWIDOW yeah if her parents were unhealthy they could have died in their 60s or 70s
@nicholesmith2089
@nicholesmith2089 Год назад
I think she wanted all of them dead and only said she wanted to get back together to throw people off, including the victims. And thinking that her exact excuse would be "why would I do that, I called the meeting to get back together!" Imagine being so determined to kill someone that the whole time you are dehydrating the mushrooms and then preparing a meal you don't stop and say "what the hell am I doing?!?!" How do some people live with themselves?
@shhhhhhh9328
@shhhhhhh9328 11 месяцев назад
I know! Not a spur of the moment thing, those dehydrators take hours! And she has kids. Kids for whom she prepares meals every day. I hope somebody in the extended family can be their guardians and give them a normal-ish life while their mum spends the next 10-20 years in prison or a criminal psych facility.
@AveragePotatoWithDreams
@AveragePotatoWithDreams 11 месяцев назад
Very easily 🤣
@mandymckeown8625
@mandymckeown8625 9 месяцев назад
She has no empathy they were just in her way unfortunately
@BigMacOrange
@BigMacOrange Год назад
The fact that she claims she bought them in a store is all the proof i need to know she is a lying liar who is also a murderer. Had she said she picked them herself and it was a horrific accident that would be believable.
@shawnburford4791
@shawnburford4791 Год назад
True. Good point. 😮
@Anna_Key
@Anna_Key Год назад
Plus, she would have eaten some herself, because if that's how it happened, she wouldn't have guessed there would be a problem eating them.
@TheBlackDeath3
@TheBlackDeath3 Год назад
Eh, not necessarily. It's not difficult to imagine somebody who's made such a grave mistake trying to cast blame elsewhere for one reason or another. Not proof of intent.
@stevecharman8420
@stevecharman8420 Год назад
@@TheBlackDeath3 It might make sense to try to shift the blame on to somebody else but to blame a store is the height of stupidity because such a thing is so easy to check.
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 Год назад
@@TheBlackDeath3 It's excruciatingly obvious she intentionally murdered them and the fact the cops can't put 2 and 2 together is astounding not to mention incredibly dense 🤦🏽‍♀️
@katnip8228
@katnip8228 Год назад
Simon refuses to reunite with Erin, because he has a strong desire to continue living. The delivery of that statement was so dead-pan, but had perfect impact!
@TheLauren1113
@TheLauren1113 Год назад
I think there are a lot of coincidences here that strongly suggest she intended to prepare a killer meal. Had it been accidental she would have eaten them herself. Less suspicious that her children didn’t eat them, as children can be picky eaters, but highly suspicious she’d prepare a lunch that she herself did not intend to eat.
@salliegallegos918
@salliegallegos918 11 месяцев назад
It’s not a coincidence. Intentional poisoning is more common than anyone knows. No one believes the victims, if they survive.
@tonyquinlan7341
@tonyquinlan7341 11 месяцев назад
Maybe she doesn't like poison mushrooms.😅😅😅😅
@smith549371
@smith549371 11 месяцев назад
How olds the children?
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 11 месяцев назад
It might make sense to cook separate meals if, say, some guests are vegetarian or have certain allergies. Or it might make sense to serve two things at home when, say, there's only one hamburger left, so only one person can get that and the rest have to eat something else. You might also create several options for guests to choose from, which is considerate in a way. But it's VERY weird to randomly serve some people one batch of food and other people a completely separate dish -- this would only sow disunity and be twice the work!
@glenncordova4027
@glenncordova4027 11 месяцев назад
What cook doesn't taste their own cooking? Every time I cook a meal, I taste it even if I am cooking it for someone else.
@johnpixton5626
@johnpixton5626 11 месяцев назад
How this woman is not in prison is beyond me.
@bradnov89
@bradnov89 8 месяцев назад
She is now. She has been charged with 3 counts of murder amongst a string of other charges
@SkeletorFan
@SkeletorFan 2 дня назад
@@bradnov89Why? If anything, the mushrooms should be the ones going to jail.
@thatdudebro
@thatdudebro Год назад
Todds sense of humor slaps. it comes out of nowhere without even a slight change of his very serious tone. sometimes u have to wonder if he actually just said it.
@DannyWJaco
@DannyWJaco 11 месяцев назад
Agreed. Perfect delivery and succinct timing.
@francinejones2524
@francinejones2524 11 месяцев назад
No he’s got a very dry sense of humour clearly.
@itsbonkerjojo9028
@itsbonkerjojo9028 11 месяцев назад
​@@DannyWJacowhat part r we talking abt ? Time pls i think i missed it as I wasn't giving proper attention
@itsbonkerjojo9028
@itsbonkerjojo9028 11 месяцев назад
​@@DannyWJaco oh i think i got it A melancholic love part at last at last isn't it when he summarize the case 😂
@itsbonkerjojo9028
@itsbonkerjojo9028 11 месяцев назад
​@@francinejones2524who hurt u 🤕
@crimegeek
@crimegeek Год назад
8:56 mark, “Simon has indicated he has no intention to reunite with Erin. This may be because Simon has a desire to… continue living.” Smoothest passive aggressive burn 🏆
@Mrs-Resell
@Mrs-Resell Год назад
Dr Grande - just to inform you that this incident occurred in the winter of 2023 here in Australia not the summer as you stated at the beginning of your video. Our winters here are June, July and August. Thank you for your very interesting videos.
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 11 месяцев назад
Literally the hottest months in the southeast region of the U.S. lol
@Drak976
@Drak976 11 месяцев назад
Oi crikey you're living in the upside down on the counterweight continent. I'd ask if yee evah seen no monstahs then I remember it's Australia and that's called going outside innit? I guess you got some of them funny time birds and I don't mean the giant ones that try and eat yah.
@elb2698
@elb2698 10 месяцев назад
This is the first I heard the kids were there. I heard they went to the movies and Erin did eat some of the wellington according to her.
@Dargyful
@Dargyful Год назад
She now changed her story a couple of hours ago saying she did eat it and did get sick but was given liver protective medication. No proof of that… Also she immediately threw out the dehydrator she used with the mushrooms straight after cooking the meal . Guilty
@kitwren1797
@kitwren1797 Год назад
The fact that she refuses to tell where she bought them is suspicious.
@michaeltuffin5002
@michaeltuffin5002 Год назад
They found a dehydrator at the local tip
@valhipkiss4011
@valhipkiss4011 Год назад
Come , it’s bull S , they were pick in the wild for god sake 😅😅😅😅
@katbar6066
@katbar6066 Год назад
I think you mean food dehydrators and I believe 3 were found but one was dumped after the event..@@michaeltuffin5002
@Ultradude604
@Ultradude604 Год назад
The Poison Shrooms Depot. She thought only healthy mushrooms are sold there.
@xonx209
@xonx209 Год назад
If bought from a store there would be news of other people getting poisoned
@JugglingG
@JugglingG Год назад
The idea of a meal with parents-in-law to reconcile a relationship is so so odd! It almost reminds me of a plot from Poirot or Columbo
@tinasmith7630
@tinasmith7630 Год назад
Murder CD hav been on da menu, dats y.
@louisewright8769
@louisewright8769 11 месяцев назад
she probably loves Agatha Christie books . she might get manslaughter . also the house was worth one million would the husband get half ?
@patriciafisher1170
@patriciafisher1170 11 месяцев назад
Bit odd
@thomasrussell4674
@thomasrussell4674 11 месяцев назад
Or curb your enthusiasm
@bloochoob
@bloochoob 11 месяцев назад
‘just one more mushroom…’ ☠️
@sithlordhibiscus9936
@sithlordhibiscus9936 8 месяцев назад
she's being charged with 3 counts of murder and 5 of attempted murder. justice has caught up to her.
@sallymoritz.9087
@sallymoritz.9087 Год назад
“The poisonous food section” of the supermarket! LOL! I really enjoy your videos, doctor, and loved the alliteration at the end of this one! Very informative and with your usual humor! Many thanks for posting!
@veracious99
@veracious99 Год назад
To say she's a person of interest is the understatement of the year...
@alexeysamokhin9629
@alexeysamokhin9629 Год назад
Maybe the Police is interested in her cooking skills?
@wendydressler3917
@wendydressler3917 Год назад
@@alexeysamokhin9629☠️😂
@Joelswinger34
@Joelswinger34 Год назад
Probably the only time in her life she was ever interesting!
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 Год назад
Women always protected. Hierarchy is rich, then women, then men. Domestic violence laws all directed at men about putting crappy women as head of the house who are loyal to government authority. Father has to co ply or else she lies to the cops and u never see ur kids again. Society is sick. Single mother raised worst situation for a kid, they know this yet father's rarely get full custody over some loonie woman unless she's on crack. Even then they get custody.
@melinaesposito3434
@melinaesposito3434 Год назад
She released a statement today, changing her story: - she bought the mushrooms from an Asian grocery - she also ate the pie and went to the hospital and was given a 'liver conserving drug' She's digging a nice big hole for herself and deserves to go to prison for a long time.
@natalieturko4808
@natalieturko4808 Год назад
The fact that she refused to answer key questions such as where the mushrooms came from, and why she and her children ate a different meal, is highly suspicious.
@hrhtreeoflife4815
@hrhtreeoflife4815 Год назад
Kids eat simple meals that's why.
@It-is-me...Melsie
@It-is-me...Melsie Год назад
@@hrhtreeoflife4815 It's weird that NONE of them ate any of what the guests ate. And it was actually beef wellington pie. Don't most kids love pie. The mother is 48 too so I'd doubt the children are fussy little toddlers.
@ange4048
@ange4048 Год назад
You realize she doesn’t have to answer questions. She has the same rights as everyone else.
@pierreblenderbuss9807
@pierreblenderbuss9807 Год назад
It's a pile on. Worth waiting a bit for facts to come out. We'll see what the investigations yield.
@siewheilou399
@siewheilou399 Год назад
​@@hrhtreeoflife4815 Children have allergies?
@jlkitz1775
@jlkitz1775 Год назад
Crying without tears 🤨...She knew exactly what she was doing! Oh my gosh, this lady is SO busted 😅
@marlinfisher2529
@marlinfisher2529 11 месяцев назад
Dear Dr Grande, when I was studying natural medicine my teacher of herbal medicine knew someone who was an expert in mushroom collection - he died from collecting, cooking up and eating poisonous mushrooms. Mushroom collection is apparently quite tricky.
@mattwhite87
@mattwhite87 Год назад
I love not only that Dr Grande covers Australian stories, but also that he pronounces ‘Melbourne’ correctly!
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Год назад
Yes noticed that!
@valhipkiss4011
@valhipkiss4011 Год назад
But he’s NOT actually getting all of the story correct .
@BoogieBoogsForever
@BoogieBoogsForever Год назад
No one care about the content. We just came to see him slip out of his fake US accent.
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Год назад
@@BoogieBoogsForever fake? What are you on about?
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Год назад
@@valhipkiss4011 so what did he get wrong?
@TheWtfnonamez
@TheWtfnonamez Год назад
There are two categories of mushroom poisoning incident: Incidents where the chef eats the food, and incidents where they dont. Every incident where they dont has turned out to be a murder in my personal experience.
@edithflood631
@edithflood631 Год назад
Personal experience? Are you a chef?
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 Год назад
​@@edithflood631busy body. Haha. Just jokes. Yeah what experience?
@SanFranDentist94301
@SanFranDentist94301 Год назад
Kinda unfortunate. MY partner enjoys mushrooms, me much less so. I'm skeeved out by them. So I could see myself making beef and mushrooms for a dinner but sticking to my chicken mushu sabs mushrooms.
@firecrest27
@firecrest27 Год назад
'Your personal experience' lol do you need investigating?
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 Год назад
​@@edithflood631 A bit of satire, that's all.
@kendradamm1428
@kendradamm1428 11 месяцев назад
I can confirm our local grocery store clearly labels the fatal mushrooms 😵🥰😝
@tracyhaverstick5672
@tracyhaverstick5672 Год назад
I have poison mushrooms during late summer in my 5 acre yard. They pop up huge right after a heavy rain. We put on rubber gloves and pull them and get rid of them right away. It's amazing how they are nowhere to be seen and then the next day they are there and the size of a cup saucer.
@jeffm3925
@jeffm3925 Год назад
Dr. Grande, your emotionless but yet still somehow menacing stare and talcum-dry sense of humor are nightmare fuel. Keep it coming.
@geraldinenolan6312
@geraldinenolan6312 Год назад
Talcum dry! 😂
@AnastasiaFafo
@AnastasiaFafo Год назад
😂😂😂
@tomperkins5657
@tomperkins5657 Год назад
word
@JesusChrist-Gives-Eternal-Life
What a description! You should be a writer!
@hammersandcaffeinepills
@hammersandcaffeinepills Год назад
​@@user-rl6wr2ny7f" Stiff upper lip, now, chap! "
@h-lorolltide92
@h-lorolltide92 Год назад
I can't stop laughing! Not at this horrible situation, but Dr. Grande's sense of humor. You NEVER let me down.
@susanguzzo4941
@susanguzzo4941 Год назад
OMG. I thought it was just me but I was laughing throughout (so inappropriate I thought to myself but his commentary cracked me up).
@nicoleferlazzo6591
@nicoleferlazzo6591 Год назад
I know! I was laughing like a crazy person. Dr Grande's dry sense of humour and dead pan look gets me every time
@lilahngahere4274
@lilahngahere4274 11 месяцев назад
Death Cap mushrooms are mycorrhizal, growing symbiotically with the roots of oak trees. They typically sprout underneath the edge of the oak canopy. Due to a large root systems Death Caps can be found aways from the trunk. The cap has a yellow to greenish sheen that can vary to olive or brown hue. Gills and spores are white, small bulbous cup at the base and remnants of a skirt on the stipe. Other mushrooms may have similar coloring but none grow symbiotically with oak. All commercial growers would easily be able to spot the Death Cap and I bet youd be hard pressed to find an example. There is now an antidote called Silibinin an extract of milk thistle seeds, along with gastric decontamination. A deadly dose is 0.1 milligrams for every kilo of weight. With all this info and what appeared to be fake crying, makes her look like she is lying. Excuse the rant 👍🤙👌✌️🕊
@Drak976
@Drak976 11 месяцев назад
I liked every word of it people need to be more careful about what we put in our face. Some people don't have our best interests at heart.
@lilahngahere4274
@lilahngahere4274 11 месяцев назад
@Drak976 She has been classed as an expert forager, I think that will be her downfall. Yes there are some sad people. Hope you have an awesome day 👋 😀 😊
@maryhayes3177
@maryhayes3177 11 месяцев назад
Very informative, thank you for explaining
@lilahngahere4274
@lilahngahere4274 11 месяцев назад
@maryhayes3177 Thankyou 😊 Mushrooms are such a valuable source of food and medicine. What she did was wicked and she was able to mask it by dehydrating it. I am so sad for her children and all those close to them. I hope you have a wonderful day 💗 I actually never expected anyone to reply.
@naturalroyalflush
@naturalroyalflush 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for that information.
@annedavis3340
@annedavis3340 11 месяцев назад
One of my favorite places to forage for mushrooms is in grocery stores. Not everyone thinks to look there. I still suck at telling which of the mushrooms in the store are poisonous. I know it's incredibly amateurish of me to wish it was easier to know if all the mushrooms I buy are edible. Maybe they can have starter supermarkets for entry-level foragers like me that only sell the edible ones. They'd make a killing. Also no idea why they won't let me bring my new truffle-trained hog. I spent all that money getting him then transporting him all the way from Italy and they dont let me bring him into the store. So unfair
@giftofthewild6665
@giftofthewild6665 11 месяцев назад
Get a truffle hunting dog instead, you can put a vest on him and call him a service dog. Bonus: they won't try to eat the truffles they find. They're better than pigs.
@psparks73
@psparks73 Год назад
Why would you have a lunch with your in-laws to convince them you and your husband should get back together? Are they teenagers? Or in some arranged marriage situation? I've never heard of this type of luncheon.
@lostandfound5145
@lostandfound5145 Год назад
It seems like a desperate ploy and perhaps the in-laws attended out of pity
@susivarga7303
@susivarga7303 Год назад
The mil's brother-in-law was a pastor and mediator.
@KanyeKetchup
@KanyeKetchup Год назад
Australian inbred way of life 😂
@katie3657
@katie3657 Год назад
I know right
@Hatbox948
@Hatbox948 Год назад
The whole thing is strange. If you're at a dinner and the hostess and her children ate completely different meals, wouldn't most people question that? I wonder if her guests really thought they were there to discuss her reuniting with her ex?
@Ceebear231071
@Ceebear231071 Год назад
I’m in Melbourne, this is a huge case and thank you for bringing all the information together. News tonight advised that the Pastor is now in a stable position.
@elizabethnuttall5374
@elizabethnuttall5374 Год назад
But he needs a liver transplant.
@YGardenRose
@YGardenRose Год назад
Thank God the Pastor is somewhat better!🙏🏻❤️
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 Год назад
Thank god! What good news!!!! So sad he lost his wife of many years. But so glad he lived. Poor man. What trauma and damage to his body.
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 Год назад
"Fight like a girl" so character assassination and poison his food.
@TGravy-wp4rc
@TGravy-wp4rc Год назад
​@@nikitaw1982that's how they do it!
@debbiegrimison6705
@debbiegrimison6705 11 месяцев назад
I'm from Aust. Erin said she purchased the mushrooms from a shop in Melbourne. But she can't recall what shop or even what suburb the shop was in. She said she gave her children the left over Beef Wellington the next day, but scraped off the mushrooms, as the kids didn't like them. But she cudn't have scraped off the poisonous juices, I don't believe that one for a minute. Also it was known that she wanted to keep the house she was living in. I looked very very hard at the videos of her "crying" & could not see a single tear, nor red eyes. I have trouble speaking when crying from grief, but she easily spoke quite well while she was "crying". Everyone in Aust thinks she's guilty, I think because her body language & her "grief" face are off. It's off because it's not real. I laughed out loud several times during your excellent analysis. 😅 The deaths of those poor people was an extremely cowardly despicable act. They died horribly.
@alexr.3504
@alexr.3504 11 месяцев назад
Dr Grande, your alliteration and humor in this video made my day!
@Mister_Holdsworth
@Mister_Holdsworth Год назад
No way that wasn't a purposeful murder. Such a top meal, and she or her kids didn't eat it ? No doubt it was murder.
@quink2376
@quink2376 Год назад
Is she vegetarian?
@MasterMalrubius
@MasterMalrubius Год назад
@@quink2376Are mushrooms meat?
@Cocoandindy
@Cocoandindy Год назад
I actually thought there was a fly on my screen & tried to swat it away 😊
@livingthedream8539
@livingthedream8539 Год назад
@@MasterMalrubius was beef wellington
@quink2376
@quink2376 Год назад
@@MasterMalrubius she cooked beef Wellington, which has mushrooms. I'd say if she is vegetarian and her kids probably don't eat mushrooms may be why they didn't eat the same meal.
@macman1469
@macman1469 Год назад
She disposed of her food dehydrater at the local tip ,after the poisoning. Cops found it . Her ex believes he may have been poisoned in the past .
@TheScratchingKiwi
@TheScratchingKiwi Год назад
An ex is generally not the best source of facts if they have no proof.
@alexeysamokhin9629
@alexeysamokhin9629 Год назад
@@TheScratchingKiwi he was for three weeks in intensive care in a critical condition in hospital, what other proofs do you need???
@joedennehy386
@joedennehy386 Год назад
​@@TheScratchingKiwi they were in hospital for 3 weeks champ
@annebruecks7381
@annebruecks7381 Год назад
What's a tip?
@kg6801
@kg6801 Год назад
​@@annebruecks7381Garbage dump
@nouseforanamelucky13
@nouseforanamelucky13 11 месяцев назад
This is the first time I've come across this channel.. this guy's dry humor and sarcasm remind me of Matt Walsh.. 😂 I love this guy! Subscribed!
@patriciafisher1170
@patriciafisher1170 11 месяцев назад
I live in a country area of Australia. Never have I seen poisonis mushrooms for sale. The supermarket where she bought the normal mushrooms would have digital info of what she bought. She told police that she bought other mushrooms at a Chinese supermarket but could not recall where this shop was or when she did it. The dehydrator that she used was thrown away at the town tip and police were looking for it. So as far as I can see she foraged for the deadly nightcap mushrooms in her area and dehydrated them. Hence the reason she got rid of it. Probably in the suitcase she carried from her house. In one of her houses a painter who was employed to paint the house came forward to the police and showed them pictures he took of a wall where she had written all these weird things One of the things were death to her parents in law. She told the painter that the kids did it but he said kids would not write things like that. He felt really uncomfortable when he found the wall. She’s guilty and kids should be removed from her before she kills them
@williewonka6694
@williewonka6694 10 месяцев назад
Only special stores sell produce such as toxic mushrooms and poisoned apples. You have to be a certified member of a witches coven to even learn if such places. It's all covered during the apprenticeship.
@Gramercy_Stiffs
@Gramercy_Stiffs 9 месяцев назад
She said they were dried mushrooms from an Asian supermarket.
@beekind5704
@beekind5704 Год назад
I believe there also needs to be an investigation into Erin’s parents deaths in 2019, unless they were in a fatal accident both parents dying in the same year is unusual.
@lindaaitken7679
@lindaaitken7679 Год назад
And they left her a shed load of money I believe
@GigiG-be4xu
@GigiG-be4xu Год назад
🤤🤤🤤...
@dirkrose1565
@dirkrose1565 Год назад
You have a point. But then again, it's not that unsual, especially among elderly couples, if the woman is the first one to die.
@GigiG-be4xu
@GigiG-be4xu Год назад
@@dirkrose1565 😐😑
@MG-ot2yr
@MG-ot2yr Год назад
Good point, inheriting a $1M home is motive, plus I'm sure they had cash, savings and other assets.
@skybluedreams77
@skybluedreams77 Год назад
The whole incident is very suspicious from the moment she cooked and served a different meal for her and her children. 😮😢
@bthomson
@bthomson Год назад
Yes! And why a lunch anyway? Was this a normal thing with these people?
@lilithowl
@lilithowl Год назад
​@@bthomsonWhat do you mean why a lunch? People often get together for meals. I don't know where you live, but weekend lunches are a common form of social get together in Australia.
@Anna_Key
@Anna_Key Год назад
​@@bthomson don't forget they were her kid's grandparents. So getting together for a meal is normal.
@It-is-me...Melsie
@It-is-me...Melsie Год назад
@@bthomson Is lunch not a normal thing where you're from?
@user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q
@user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q Год назад
Some kids won't eat stews, especially neurodiverse kids. It's not that uncommon to give them chicken nuggets while the grown ups eat something else. The fact that Erin ate a different meal is more suspicious.
@schmickler.83
@schmickler.83 Год назад
That alliteration in your conclusion was pure poetry, incredible!! Interesting case as well
@renatebishop57
@renatebishop57 11 месяцев назад
Love it, Todd your sense of humor is growing. Keep up the good work.
@jacquelinejacobson6789
@jacquelinejacobson6789 Год назад
Death Angel mushrooms. Curiously, most homicides by poisoning are done by women. The fact that she and her children avoided the "laced" dish speaks of homicidal intent.
@ToyInsanity
@ToyInsanity Год назад
But mummy, why can't I have the beef welly, you know I love beef welly!
@sjworrier0613
@sjworrier0613 Год назад
But also… some people don’t like mushrooms, like truly hate them. I still cook things I don’t like all the time for friends and family bc I love cooking but I won’t eat that dish and eat the rest.
@TwistedSister1234
@TwistedSister1234 Год назад
But she would have gotten caught too easily if she had done it on purpose. So I don’t think she meant to kill them . But I do think that she likely meant to make them sick (Munchausen’s bi-proxy). Her husband got critically ill while with her in April 2022. Maybe she enjoyed the drama, liked attending to him and feeling needed by him.
@Winter-Lake
@Winter-Lake Год назад
It does seem rather convenient that she and her children were the only ones who didn't eat it.
@Adam-kn3tv
@Adam-kn3tv Год назад
​@@schoomzerHe says in the video that she prepared separate meals for her children. It's right there in the video.
@rs3007
@rs3007 Год назад
A few year ago after vacation- our dog got so sick, it was many days of hell and the vet couldn't figure it out. The people who watched our dog denied anything unusual, denied our dog was sick (thought maybe some kind of extreme anxiety, stop eating, puking, diarrhea, shaking/tremors hair falling out, crying dog pain whimpering etc) eventually she recovered 💕... I went over to their house and looked in their yard and I found mushrooms that looked exactly like this in the corner of their fenced in yard (google imagined them, death caps!)... I am convinced to this day that my dog was eating poisonous mushrooms in their yard when we were gone, Luckily she survived!
@kimberlygabaldon3260
@kimberlygabaldon3260 Год назад
There are other Amanitas such as A pantherina, and A muscaria that dogs and even cats are attracted to. A pantherina could be mistaken for a death cap, but the dog usually recovers after a day or so. Still, it's always best to keep your eyes open..
@78grafikal
@78grafikal Год назад
OR THE DOG BIT A FROG
@kathyryder828
@kathyryder828 Год назад
The people who looked after your dog may have been telling the truth. He may have seemed okay when he was with them. Amanita phalloides causes liver. The symptoms don't usually occur for 4 - 7 days after consuming the mushrooms. I agree with the other comment that it was probably a less toxic A. phalloides lookalike. Your dog would only have to eat a small piece of an A. phalloides and they'd probably die. I wouldn't rely on Google images for an accurate fungi ID. Local or online fungi groups usually have experts who can provide accurate IDs. I'm glad your dog survived.
@greatsol2444
@greatsol2444 Год назад
She’s obviously a poisoner. I was also poisoned at a time during the past several years. It’s strange but, some people are so vile, as to poison people and make it seem as though their victims are suffering “illness” from the pandemic. What horrible people. I’m glad I have at least one good friend…
@abbiealverez2960
@abbiealverez2960 11 месяцев назад
Sorry to hear this you should be calling the cops if someone poisoned you that's tottally effed up
@moshunit96
@moshunit96 11 месяцев назад
"Everybody knows supermarkets clearly mark their muchrooms as fatal and non fatal" Almost missed that with his dry sense of humor.
@johnnyrook6371
@johnnyrook6371 Год назад
There's absolutely no way they could have been store bought! There would have been a huge food recall.
@skysi666
@skysi666 Год назад
Not to mention that selling poisonous mushrooms is really bad for repeat customers
@soup-nazi6824
@soup-nazi6824 Год назад
Store bought mushrooms are from large scale commercial growers here in Australia-they don't buy random mushrooms picked by the public...😅
@hondaxl250k0
@hondaxl250k0 Год назад
Actually.. wrong. I supply vendors with wild hand picked mushrooms.. I get 100$ a lb for morel and 75$ a lb for chicken of the woods and hen of the woods. If the store locally sourced the mushrooms there would not be a recall. This lady I’d definitely guilty. But understand a lot of mushrooms are sourced locally. And it’s totally possible for someone to pick a look alike . I spore print each batch. And am dam sure what I sell is correct..
@It-is-me...Melsie
@It-is-me...Melsie Год назад
@@hondaxl250k0 Why do you put your dollar signs after the number? Do you do that on your invoices too?
@hondaxl250k0
@hondaxl250k0 Год назад
@@It-is-me...Melsie why are you a grammar nazi??
@marcouellette4671
@marcouellette4671 Год назад
One year in Hawaii Deathcaps grew all over the place in huge numbers. My landlord did not think they were poisonous. He took a very tiny piece of one, about the size of a pea. He almost died.
@charliechurch5004
@charliechurch5004 11 месяцев назад
DANG! THOSE ARE DEADLY!!!
@andyharpist2938
@andyharpist2938 11 месяцев назад
the poison recirculates again and again from damaged livers...activated carbon filtration can help...but your will be on a machine for evermore.
@breathnstop
@breathnstop 11 месяцев назад
What an idiot. Thought he was special I guess.
@FernRoses
@FernRoses 11 месяцев назад
Oh my! 😳
@marcouellette4671
@marcouellette4671 11 месяцев назад
@@andyharpist2938 eight hours after he took that tiny piece, he call needing a ride to the hospital because he was throwing up and passing blood from his rear end. They put activated charcoal and pump to stomach and gave them all kinds of medications
@Wilko11
@Wilko11 11 месяцев назад
The testing of packaged mushrooms, both imported & local in Australia is very stringent to avoid any poisonous ones. And there's no record of anybody ever being poisoned by dried packaged mushrooms. Surely there would have been many more cases of poisoning if she had bought them at an Asian grocery store as claimed. She then said she couldn't remember where the store was, and also disposed of a food dehydrator at the garbage dump a day after serving the deadly meal. She claimed to forget about having disposed of it.
@wicky4473
@wicky4473 11 месяцев назад
I love your dry sense of humour. And your ‘Hitchcockian’ reference.
@freila8156
@freila8156 Год назад
I hope the police is also looking into her parents' death and how her ex husband was hospitalized with similar symptoms before. This woman is sussy af.
@paulettebanks3217
@paulettebanks3217 Год назад
😮😮😮
@janetdonald9801
@janetdonald9801 Год назад
Her parents deats, I hadn’t thought about that 😮
@kristyw89
@kristyw89 Год назад
She did inherit a house from that, so that would be one benefit of doing that
@bioshawna
@bioshawna Год назад
Super sus!
@supremacy2040
@supremacy2040 Год назад
Yeah I thought the same especially since she inherited it. Would not be surprised if she invited her husband & fam to get rid of them in one fell swoop
@sjworrier0613
@sjworrier0613 Год назад
“This may because he has a desire to continue living”… that’s why I’m going to avoid to mushroom foragers… they seem all cute and quirky with their baskets filled with mushrooms but their hearts are filled with HATE. 😂
@rogersimpson9725
@rogersimpson9725 11 месяцев назад
I lived in a foster home when I was a kid. My foster mother picked mushrooms in the pasture and served them for lunch almost every day in the summer. It took me awhile but when I saw no one got sick, I started eating them too. They were very good and always fresh.I ate them raw on sandwiches mostly. To this day, I can't tell you how June knew which ones were the right ones. She was a tough Christian woman and I trusted her!
@juanitaross5492
@juanitaross5492 11 месяцев назад
I use to go mushroom gathering with my father. He knew the difference between the good ones and the poison ones. If any where questionable we didn't take any chances. I'm 69 and still alive. Dad taught us well.
@Silver-Sliver
@Silver-Sliver 11 месяцев назад
If she deliberately served, and watched people eat death caps, she's a cold hearted fiend. Premeditated murder! Maybe not the first time either..
@Harassed247
@Harassed247 Год назад
My work colleague had lost her sister in law to one of these poisonous mushrooms, and her brother was in a fatal condition. The wife was very much into wild mushrooms and was very knowledgeable, she'd go off mushroom picking this day as she had for years and collected her mushrooms for a dinner she was preparing for her family. She absolutely adored her husband and their children and would often arrange meal gatherings. On this particular occasion she prepared the lunch only to receive a call that her family couldn't make it to lunch and would rearrange. However, her husband said that they would still eat the meal since she'd prepared it. Hours later the wife was seriously ill with nausea and stomach pain, her husband called the emergency services who told him NOT to induce vomiting. Unfortunately this was a big mistake as vomiting would have helped to release some of the toxins frim her stomach. She was rushed to hospital but sadly died. Her husband within hours would also become very sick too and was rushed into ED. He survived thankfully but has never recovered psychologically. Even though she knew her mushrooms, she'd picked some that looked like ones she'd normally eat not realising they weren't. It was so tragic.
@nicolesamsonite
@nicolesamsonite Год назад
Why did emergency services tell them not to induce vomiting?
@clutchboi4038
@clutchboi4038 Год назад
​@@nicolesamsonitefor most poisonings it's not the correct thing to do for some reason that I don't know. Maybe they are worried it can be aspirated and cause further complications getting it into your lungs and airways.
@nicolesamsonite
@nicolesamsonite Год назад
@@clutchboi4038 oh okay, that makes sense.
@ultraboombean
@ultraboombean Год назад
Don't fuck with mushrooms.
@deedk
@deedk Год назад
​@clutchboi4038 it's also if it is a caustic poisoning it can burn/damage the esophagus as it comes back up.
@mikehubbard1967
@mikehubbard1967 Год назад
Before we get too far into this thing, she inherited a million-dollar town home after her parents passed away? Like, natural causes passed away? Or, more like, ya know, murder them, passed away. I'm just starting the show and already I have things to share. Man, I love the internets.
@justintime753
@justintime753 Год назад
Damn they better take another look at there deaths
@ToyInsanity
@ToyInsanity Год назад
They were fans of here beef welly 😮
@ceilconstante640
@ceilconstante640 Год назад
Absolutely! Probably should exhume the bodies and run some toxiciflolgy tests.
@leahvogelsimpson
@leahvogelsimpson Год назад
Right. It's kinda weird they both died in 2019, although not impossible.
@letfreedomreignhonk324
@letfreedomreignhonk324 Год назад
I thought the same thing.
@looloolawrence4009
@looloolawrence4009 Год назад
Oh my goodness! Some of the one sentence remarks you made were brilliant, and love the ending. I find it very hard to believe this woman in innocent.
@leahlang7454
@leahlang7454 11 месяцев назад
Your sense of humor is amazing. I almost spat out my drink with some of your wry delivery is everything.
@drewgrant3128
@drewgrant3128 Год назад
One small correction Dr G. Here in Australia, July isn't summer, but winter. I always enjoy your videos, humour and perspective on cases. Thanks for all the effort you put into your material.
@hw7029
@hw7029 Год назад
Wild mushrooms are a winter food 🍄
@desertweasel6965
@desertweasel6965 Год назад
She should have said she foraged them herself and due to inexperience accidently picked death caps. It would have still gotten her a charge, but not murder. When she tried to claim they came from a store, she was immediately made into a murderer, because stores don't sell death caps. She may have gotten involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide.
@It-is-me...Melsie
@It-is-me...Melsie Год назад
Agreed. It would have still looked dodgy since they've grown on her property for a long time and it is apparently the first time she suddenly decided to go and pick them and use them in a meal neither she nor her children touched (if ignore the ex husband getting very sick for a moment), but it would make her appear to be less of a liar and added some doubt to her intentions.
@catm2454
@catm2454 Год назад
Yea true
@teresayeates3437
@teresayeates3437 Год назад
Certainly, however criminals do not think the way we do, which is why we do not commit crimes. For example the average person thinks from point a to point bbto point c, the criminal thinks only from point a to point b, I want to steal, murder, whatever, and then to how they will do it. See how many look shocked or angry etc. when faced with concequences.
@TheMazinoz
@TheMazinoz Год назад
@@teresayeates3437 This seems to apply to her. She doesn't come across as the brightest lamp in the room.
@jimmytwostones
@jimmytwostones 11 месяцев назад
She’ll change her story before or at the trial
@julieharward5476
@julieharward5476 11 месяцев назад
I can’t help but wonder if her ex-husband’s prior bouts of sickness were her doing dosage testing- or just failing to kill him each time, so she continued increasing the amount.
@alexandergaus493
@alexandergaus493 11 месяцев назад
"This would be bad for business - mostly because of the dying part..." 😂😂😂 Thanks. That made the start of today much funnier.
@Escherlife
@Escherlife Год назад
I live in Australia and this case has been all over the news. However I still got more information from you than the media has released. Thank you Dr Grande 👏
@BoogieBoogsForever
@BoogieBoogsForever Год назад
Bullshit. You have access to the same info Grande does. If you lack info it's because you're not paying attention.
@Judi-AustralianEmptyNester
@Judi-AustralianEmptyNester Год назад
There's not a lot about it hey - i actually googled this story last night and its all very quiet.
@teresaluther6531
@teresaluther6531 Год назад
Same. I don't know how he managed to get so much info when here in Australia we've heard very little.
@michelegrice4938
@michelegrice4938 Год назад
Don't believe everything you read. This person is getting likes and comments
@NickTaylorRickPowers
@NickTaylorRickPowers Год назад
I know right we never heard nothing about it being beef Wellington
@darcie5742
@darcie5742 Год назад
Her husband was in a coma 12 months ago with similar symptoms. She must have bought store bought mushrooms back then too. Interestingly when she told the police she bought them from the shop they didnt do a recall on the mushrooms so it sounds like the police dont believe her
@katbar6066
@katbar6066 Год назад
in fact I believe both Supermarkets put out an announcement saying they are not doing a recall and no one is at risk.
@TWW-zk9gw
@TWW-zk9gw Год назад
The good news is the mushrooms are on sale at the supermarkets here in NSW. Seems like people don't fancy them all of a sudden!
@whatevvadude
@whatevvadude 11 месяцев назад
"Simon has indicated he has no intention of reuniting with Erin. This may be because Simon has a desire to continue living." HAHAHAHA. For you to say this and many other things in this video in such a nonchalant way and with no expressions on your face is pure brilliance. You should do stand up comedy! 🤣😂😅
@devadethereal6301
@devadethereal6301 Год назад
She made the food, yet didn't eat any and made sure her kids didn't... you can bet it was intentional. She's only sorry about getting caught. She either saw them as an obstacle in the way of getting what she wanted and felt the need to eliminate them or she thought they were to blame for her failed marriage and wanted revenge. I can't believe she's not been brought up on charges yet, especially after finding that dehydrator.
@TheMazinoz
@TheMazinoz Год назад
I'm sure they are working on it, just wanting to well and truly prove the case. She hasn't exactly been cooperative either which may be delaying the matter.
@kumasucki
@kumasucki 11 месяцев назад
Im in Melbourne. She said she did eat the meal. Now she's admitted she lied about where her kids were that day.
@palomaalhambra2453
@palomaalhambra2453 11 месяцев назад
What is a dehydrator and what's it got to do with deadly poisonous mushrooms? (Genuine question, not all of us have a clue.)
@xoxsilentrealmxox
@xoxsilentrealmxox 11 месяцев назад
I have faith she will be, they're just preparing their case
@xoxsilentrealmxox
@xoxsilentrealmxox 11 месяцев назад
​@@palomaalhambra2453it dehydrates food. She claims she used a mix of fresh button mushrooms and other dehydrated mushrooms from an Asian grocery store. I'm guessing she used the dehydrator with the death caps
@RebeccaFitzgerald666
@RebeccaFitzgerald666 Год назад
Another interesting factor that I don’t see mentioned often is that these mushrooms have been out of season here for about 2 months now. My guess is that this is where that disposed dehydrator comes into play. To me it indicates some degree of premeditation.
@adda312
@adda312 Год назад
Good point!!
@everythingbobbywolfe
@everythingbobbywolfe Год назад
I'm guessing 4-7 days before the police file charges against her. It's just a matter of getting enough info for the prosecutor.
@drytung9526
@drytung9526 Год назад
You know you watch too much Dr. Grande when you're waiting to see if he looks to the left or to the right when he says, "only speculating on a situation like this."
@regwatson2017
@regwatson2017 Год назад
"Everyone knows that supermarkets clearly mark their mushrooms as fatal and non-fatal..." Love it and proves that even doctors have a great sense of humour ! 🙂
@multioptioned
@multioptioned Год назад
The mushrooms in supermarkets are clearly marked as "for people you like" or "for people you don't like"! 😂
@budaustin
@budaustin Год назад
@@teresadvorak6145thank you, captain obvious.
@8ofwands300
@8ofwands300 Год назад
😂😂
@purplefireweed
@purplefireweed Год назад
Perhaps. But the timing is terrible. These people JUST DIED and are being mourned by real people who are hurting. I love humor but this vid was tasteless and I'm surprised he posted it.
@elizabethpeterson455
@elizabethpeterson455 Год назад
I have never in my long life heard of a store labeling their produce "fatal"...🤤😨. Why in the world carry a product in the first place that may kill people.? We live in the 21st century, and that sounds suspect.
@LadyVesuvius
@LadyVesuvius Год назад
I personally think Erin wanting to get back with her ex and getting everyone together because of it was just a ruse to get them all round to eat her mushrooms, including the ex. The fact she and her children did not eat the mushrooms speaks volumes. When I cook for a group, I usually cook something everyone can/will eat so the fact the most important people to her (her kids and herself) did not eat it and were the ONLY people not to eat it is very odd. The fact she lied about buying the shrooms at a grocery store is a red flag - unless she can provide some reciept, I call BS. Guilty af imo.
@kathyryder828
@kathyryder828 Год назад
She didn't buy them at a supermarket. We have strict food regulations in Australia and NZ. Most supermarkets only sell commercially grown white button mushrooms and brown field mushrooms. Amanita phalloides does not look like either of those. I've never heard of Amanita phalloides contaminating batches of commercially grown mushrooms. It doesn't like that substrate. Some supermarkets are branching out and selling a few specialty types of fungi. Again, they're commercially grown and don't resemble Amanita phalloides. Other people would've almost certainly become sick if the mushrooms were purchased from a store too. This mushroom grows in the wild. Typically under pine trees. It's common to find them in the area where Erin lives
@Ena48145
@Ena48145 Год назад
More details than I've found anywhere in the states.. I live in Maryland. Imagine spending all of that time on beef wellington and not eating it.. not suspicious at all! Hmm, well unless you don't eat meat. This is so horrific and disturbing beyond words. Her parents died the same year? Interesting. Where on earth did she get these mushrooms?
@lalouvesolitaire1868
@lalouvesolitaire1868 Год назад
This was once again a Magnificent Monologue about Mushrooms 👏
@LoveMyDaisyGirl911
@LoveMyDaisyGirl911 Год назад
She definitely is a serial killer.... This isn't accidental... She knew exactly what she was doing. Feeding her children something diff ( along with herself) proves it was intentional
@Cinder_311
@Cinder_311 Год назад
Mass murderer
@mindeyethemasterscreen2712
@mindeyethemasterscreen2712 Год назад
​@penderyn8794She also threw out the cooking device she cooked the meal with which was found at the local tip AND she hated the step mother cursing her in public so there's a possible motive.
@bioshawna
@bioshawna Год назад
​@@mindeyethemasterscreen2712there we go.
@PrecociousFriand
@PrecociousFriand Год назад
Proof is defined by the fact it is evidential. There isn't any evidence yet.
@jaimediego5109
@jaimediego5109 Год назад
Not to be a nit picked but I think she is technically a mass murdere. IDK what the death total requirement is to meet the definition ( I think its 4). But serial killers are killers of 3 or more people people with an emotional cooling down between kills.
@deezildee4556
@deezildee4556 Год назад
As an Aussie, I've heard about this however I avoid the news like the plague (it sets off extreme anxiety). This story is weird, she is weird & I'm sure it'll all only become weirder. Dr Grande, despite the deaths, you totally crack me up. I'll get my current news from you in future. Rest In Peace to the victims ❤🙏🕊️
@elizabethroberts6215
@elizabethroberts6215 Год назад
.…she’s not the full quid………
@Betty77168
@Betty77168 Год назад
I totally agree on the news giving me anxiety - general Main Stream Media but particularly the news makes me very uncomfortable nowadays.
@enricopallazzo3244
@enricopallazzo3244 Год назад
Ironically these days if you avoid the news you are much more informed than those who tune in every night.
@Toddpeekence
@Toddpeekence Год назад
Lol!
@Betty77168
@Betty77168 Год назад
@@enricopallazzo3244 you're not wrong!
@jonsmith6982
@jonsmith6982 11 месяцев назад
Earlier this month, a person close to the family said Patterson was an “experienced fungi forager”. According to the Daily Mail Australia, Patterson was known to often and expertly pick wild mushrooms around Victoria’s Gippsland region A friend of Patterson’s family revealed Erin was “very good at foraging” and identifying different mushroom varieties ..But brought the ones she used from a unnamed Asian supermarket she claims ? sussy as .
@julieblair168
@julieblair168 11 месяцев назад
Congratulations Dr. Grande, on your ever growing subscribers. I watch all your videos, your hard and well done work shows. Thank you
@jenitastarr19
@jenitastarr19 Год назад
I find her crocodile tears to be very disturbing. Thanks for your excellent coverage of the topic, and I love your sense of humour!
@jenitastarr19
@jenitastarr19 Год назад
I've been hoping that someone would cover this story on YT
@dougwhiley4028
@dougwhiley4028 Год назад
Yes, I first became suspicious when it seemed that she was forcing her voice to sound more upset.
@cinemar
@cinemar Год назад
Yeah I wasn't convinced either. They appeared to be very dry tears when sobbing in her driveway. The lack of water seemed weird to me. I think she did this and also caused her ex husband to be sick.
@dougwhiley4028
@dougwhiley4028 Год назад
@@cinemar I think we can safely conclude that she was lying about buying the mushrooms from a shop.
@cinemar
@cinemar Год назад
Yeah button, oyster and shitake are pretty much the range on offer at my shop. Very little poison on sale.@@dougwhiley4028
@loiskondo8349
@loiskondo8349 Год назад
She knew her former in laws didn’t think she was good enough for their son. Perhaps she didn’t want them influencing him. Thank you for the interesting video Dr. Grande!
@bthomson
@bthomson Год назад
But didn't she just totally prove them correct in their bad feelings?
@Anna_Key
@Anna_Key Год назад
​@@bthomson exactly!
@margaretr5701
@margaretr5701 Год назад
And her sister?
@meredithisme3752
@meredithisme3752 Год назад
I agree she was removing the road block her ex husband declined the invitation fortunately
@cabooseabs6864
@cabooseabs6864 Год назад
@bthomson people willing to poison a family don't always make the most rational decisions. There are tons of regular DV situations where the perpetrator is upset at the family of their partner because the family doesn't like the perpetrator because they harm their child. It's like of course a family isn't going to like the partner who hurts their child, but the partner still feels justified in their anger towards the family.
@mirandamcewan3333
@mirandamcewan3333 11 месяцев назад
Enjoyed this and loved the tongue twister at the end 😂 You have a great way of reporting articles!
@tuvia4082
@tuvia4082 11 месяцев назад
Alliteration is always aright and allowed. Thanks for the video Dr. Grande.
@RaciePSB
@RaciePSB Год назад
Wow! I’m so impressed that you are onto this case so quickly! I will just add that here in Australia we are still in our winter, so for us it occurred in Winter of 2023. You’ve unearthed so much more information than is covered in our news, and it’s added valuable insight. Thank you Dr. G. ❤
@burnyizland
@burnyizland Год назад
What even IS Australian winter? Does it actually get cold there?
@richardnolan3903
@richardnolan3903 Год назад
@@burnyizland Winter is Winter, regardless of the temperature. Ever been to Florida at Christmas time? In the Southern Hemisphere the seasons are the opposite to the Northern Hemisphere.
@burnyizland
@burnyizland Год назад
@@richardnolan3903 Well that was unnecessarily snarky. And uninformative. I wasn't disagreeing with the seasons being opposite to North America's - I'm a geography major for C's sake. Just curious. No need for you to act like a child.
@Zocorax
@Zocorax Год назад
​@@burnyizlandwow, your a geography major.
@It-is-me...Melsie
@It-is-me...Melsie Год назад
@@burnyizland I don't know why Dick had to be so rude to you. He doesn't seem to know himself anyway and appears to have made assumptions. I'm a Kiwi however I have lived in Australia as well as travelled there quite a bit so I can answer, which is there's no one answer for all of the country. Much of the Northern Territory for instance doesn't really have seasons like Summer, Winter, etc, but has the Wet season, the Dry season, and the Buildup. The months which would be considered Winter it stays hot every day with the temperate at about 30 degrees celcius. And then in other parts there's actually mountains and ski fields. Millions of houses do require heating in Winter as it does get that cold in much of it.
@vanessacollins9434
@vanessacollins9434 Год назад
As an Aussie I’m so impressed you said “Melbun” and not “Mel-born”
@xoxsilentrealmxox
@xoxsilentrealmxox 11 месяцев назад
Yes, I think he really worked on it haha
@ericrochester8835
@ericrochester8835 11 месяцев назад
True
@Ross_Embossed
@Ross_Embossed 11 месяцев назад
Yea, that was pleasantly unexpected, even from an American's point of view (p.o.v.,) As pleasantly unexpected as when you hear a French person properly pronounce croissant 😅
@kylie9821
@kylie9821 11 месяцев назад
I came to the comment section to say the same thing.
@zanzah_
@zanzah_ 11 месяцев назад
It's Mel-Bin maaaaaaate 😅
@janewineland
@janewineland 4 месяца назад
I appreciate Dr. Grande's sly humor as much as his evaluations of these individuals. I think his jibes are even funnier because he never smiles when he's delivering them.
@Plethorality
@Plethorality Год назад
If the poison ones were from a shop, there would be a recall of mushroom, and other unrelated poisoning deaths.
@erikarnold4737
@erikarnold4737 Год назад
In this economy, if I'm at the store and the fatal mushrooms happen to be on sale, I stock up.
@kwas101
@kwas101 Год назад
Thanks for the laugh!
@lindawilson4625
@lindawilson4625 Год назад
I think any deaths around her need a second look... inherited the house? This one might end up being on Forensic Files :-) Thanks again, Dr. Grande!
@bluestarblue22
@bluestarblue22 Год назад
At this rate the police will be looking into ANY unusual deaths around her.
@dubaiedge
@dubaiedge Год назад
Early 2000's I knew someone who got served poisonous mushrooms at a Berkeley, CA. restaurant. He ended up fine. That's all I recall. This woman is so guilty she's growing mold spores all over her.
@stolennimbus
@stolennimbus 11 месяцев назад
Let me guess, if Erin Patterson's ex-husband and his parents are all dead, the two kids will inherit all their assets, and since Erin is the kids only parent, she will have sole custody of the kids and in turn control of all the assets. I think authorities should also look into the death of Erin's parents to make sure there is nothing suspicious.
@mandymckeown8625
@mandymckeown8625 9 месяцев назад
Yep definitely she has no empathy narsissist or psychopath
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