I believe the creative liberties taken with this story were perhaps designed to empower voices that were not heard back then, and to realize how hard it was for women to be taken seriously. We can look up the real story and know it. It's tragic and horrible but I think the takeaways from this were important. I remember that cringy dating show. Yikes
I still don’t know how I feel about these bio-pic esque Netflix shows. They tend to change facts for entertainment value and people end up taking the movies as facts and never end up looking into the actual facts of the cases.
I agree with you, but this was originally a festival movie bought by netflix and is Anna kendrick first directing role, it has been received really well apparently, don't dismiss it as more netflix true crime slop it before you see it
Yeah I was watching it with my parents a few hours ago and my dad kept saying stuff like "That's what happened?!" Lol. I just go with my gut now that most movies based on true stories are incredibly sensationalized, Netflix or otherwise.
Rodney Alcala, known as 'The Dating Game Killer' was one of the worst serial killers here in the States. There are been plenty of True Crime shows about him along with TV movies such as 'The Dating Game Killer'. I give Anna Kendrick credit for wanting to tell this version of the story.
I watched it today. I really thought it was effective, especially the depictions of power dynamics at play...I was vaguely aware of the case but didn't know many of the facts, so I had no idea how much the movie had fictionalized. As a piece of narrative I think it's really well made, and very chilling. Fascinating to see your side by side comparison!
Why does Anna Kendrick have to have Anna Kendrick hair in this? You know? Nothing cheeses me off more than seeing 2010's hair in a movie or show set in the 70's or 80's...
Not so much. Her hairstyle was worn in the 70’s, remember Peggy Lipton from ‘The Mod Squad’? I think it ran through, ‘73, just like ‘The Dating Game’ did. Lots of women wore their hair straight. Other women began ‘feathering’ their hair like Farrah Fawcett when she made that style popular a little later in the decade. 🌸
Since her character is an aspiring actress, I think it makes sense to have a more “classic” hairstyle and not a hyper-trendy one, because she’s trying to get cast in something
I agree. I didn't buy into her being the character because she looked and sounded exactly like Anna Kendrick. She had an opportunity to actually become the character. She maybe should have cast that role to someone else and only directed.
Coincidentally, if no one else has mentioned it…Roman Polanski’s very pregnant wife (and several friends staying at their home) were slaughtered by members of the Manson Family. Polanski was away, and involved with another project.
I remember this I watched the dating game when I was a kid, I lived in huntington beach when i was 15 and always in southern ca so many people dropped the ball with him especially with the witnesses
I recall watching that The Dating Game episode on youtube. I hope it wasn't taken down now that he is even more notorious. RU-vid does that a lot just to get hype started.
As somebody who has a security studies and criminology background, I'm not a fan of these types of shows. If you are going to tell a story like this, you have to do it as accurately as possible. The truth must come before entertainment. There is a phenomenon known as the csi effect where people who watched the show got an unrealistic idea as to how forensic science works, and it changed the outcomes in real world cases.
Thank you so much, Emma! I had so many questions about what was real and what fictionalised and you really got to the heart of this. I think the dramatic interpolations worked really well in developing the theme that misogyny is not just the preserve of the psychopath but runs through society and enables others and made something much more interesting than a procedual as a result, though I was fascinated by the real story as you divulged here. Another top video from you.
I watched most of the movie and found it to be a difficult watch. I love horror but when it is true crime it seems to bother me so much more. Killing them and then bringing them back was horrific to me personally. The acting was very good and I thought it was put together well.I watched that dating game show as a child.
Great job in researching this Emma. I watched Woman of the Hour partly because of this video, I think Anna Kendrick did a great job all around! It was very chilling and effective story of this time in society.
I was a teenager in Australia back in the 70's and seeing the kind of sexism and mysoginy that was depicted in these clips, the girl being told to "dumb down" and to dress provocatively for the show, Anna's character rolling her eyes at the "check your lipstick" note, reminded me that I experienced that kind of treatment on a daily basis as I was growing up. The really sad part is that at the time, I just accepted that that was the status quo. That was just how things were. Teenage me probably WOULD have checked my lipstick before going on stage and never give a second thought. I never really gave ANY thought to how utterly despicable the treatment of females was back then. And none of my friends did either. I look at it now, and it turns my stomach.
@@HollyHargreaves I don't doubt it one bit. This third wave of feminism that rose up with the "Me Too" movement, made me feel that women's struggles to simply be recognised as functioning intelligent people, going all the way back to the very early 1900's when they demanded the right to vote, as well as the bra burning feminists of my time, were all in vain. We always seem to progress to a certain point, and then the rug is pulled out from under us. When men in positions of power begin to recognise that women are becoming more independent and rejecting the traditional roles laid out for us, they begin the process of dismantling anything that would allow us to be independent from them. And I use the example of the banning of abortion in the U.S. Men would rather women die, than relinquish any power over to them. Nothing ever changes.
I just watched it and thought it was really good, and the guy playing Alcala was great, super creepy. The whole movie had a good creeper vibe. However, while I get that movies and tv sometimes embellish true stories for dramatic purposes, and Kendrick clearly does that here, why in the world wouldn't she portray the Dating Game episode correctly in terms of the seating of the bachelors and getting actors who resembled the contestants? Shit like that takes you right out of the story because it's blatantly inaccurate.
I haven't watched it yet but from this, it seems to be one of the most tasteful adaptation of such events yet. I can understand being fully against these types of movies existing to begin with, but i do think what's beyond unfortunate is that people watch these and take every single shot and scene as fact
i remember seeing the dating game clip on a true crime channel and it just being so chilling. Here you had this handsome,well presented guy and underneath it all was a homicidal maniac
these deep dive videos of yours are probably my favourite. I paused it one minute in and watched the film this morning. and Ive just now completed this video. wow super interesting! not sure what I think about the film now. great that the core aspects of the killer were very accurate. I can see how some people might view the rest somewhat being a vanity project though!
This is why I just don’t watch biopics anymore. The most interesting parts are always fake. I don’t like being affected by a story only to find out that’s not what really happened. If you want to make your own story inspired by the original, just do that.
I have seen, and read, so much of this story over and over, so I probably will not even watch it. I remember when it happened and when they finally kept him in jail until he died. I actually wish they wouldn't use these real stories and add a bunch of not true stuff to them.
I was so excited when I heard they were making a movie about this story and I'm so glad it was good!! Can't wait to watch. Edit: I watched it and loved it. It took liberties but so did Zodiac! I think this one is my fave biopic yet!!
I don’t know how much of this movie is actually true but if he is what they say or what they act like in the movie on the dating game, show exactly what to say, and what to do
Just watched it (I had never heard this story before), I thought Anna Kendrick did a really good job directing this, and the guy who played Rodney (i thought), did a good job at capturing the creepiness of the actual killer, and I like that they didn't show too much. I don't really watch movies about cereal killers (honestly I only watched it for Anna Kendrick), but I thought it was a good watch (kept my attention the whole time).
I watched the film but didn’t care a lot for it since I didn’t know all this backstory. I feel you need to know the story before watching the film to appreciate it, otherwise, it feels incomplete and abrupt (an example of this is by their need to show multiple text onscreen at the end to wrap up the story).
I listening to documentry on this guy before and saw this with mg gf and her sister and was like I don’t remember things in the movie that I heard before. I’m glad you clarified the facts for me.
Thanks for your research on this, Emma, I'd never heard about the case before seeing the film. It is an exceptionally skilful film (Kendrick certainly knows how to direct) but I do feel uncomfortable about 'true' stories which are so heavily fictionalized.
I thought this was fairly well done. I had listened to a podcast about him in the past and s after watching this I didn't feel as though any of the characters were over the top.I especially loved the "Do your f*cking job' line by Nicolette Robinson. I feel like it was respectful to the core material, and creative in the fact/fiction portrayal. Love ur channel
I wanted to think this movie was great. All of the pieces are there. I think centering the movie around the game show and Anna's character hindered its potiential impact. I agree it's important to give a voice to these stories. Unfortunately, the Sheryl character didn't have much to do with the story at all.
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I don't know why they bother to make these period pieces if they aren't going to bother having the characters even attempt to speak like the time period. Everyone in this movie talked like they were straight out of the 2020's MCU, the real people weren't throwing out Chandler Bing Zingers and doing their best Irony Bros schtick! It's insane that Anna Kendrick took the real life tragedy of these people and decided to use it as a vessel to play pretend as the smartest person in the room. This would be like if Jim Carey decided to make a Ted Bundy film and it's just him doing his Greatest Hits from all of his jokes. It's extremely offensive and typical Hollywood slime.
I heard of taking artistic liberties in creating films to make it more condense and understandable, but this was way out there. Too much so. The hook being the culprit was on a major TV show and making the main character a lady who only saw him once in reality was a weak idea. Should have been just about the culprits career which would have been 10 times more interesting.
I think Anna hijacked the real story a little bit too much to tell a story she wanted to tell. I think the main character could have still been a teacher, looking for a fun relationship,only to find herself meeting unsavory men such as the dating show host and the contestants. It could still have the same impact.
Anna Kendrick was out of her depth. I hate that there were so many creative liberties taken. Anna didn’t need to be the central character. Vanity ruined this project.
Woman of the Hour is a boring biopic. The story has absolutely no weight to it. it's simply centered around the Dating Game incident. That's not enough story to be compelling. I would rather see a series based on Rodney Alcala. The story wouldn't have to be graphic to get it's point across. Other series based on serial killers, the victims are mostly killed off camera. One of my favorite series was The Deliberate Stranger starring Mark Harmon as Ted Bundy.
I see a drone in the first landscape scene (just after the dating game) when the girl with curly hair gets attacked. I also noticed that she had a severely deformed left hand. I noticed that when they passed a joint between them and then she grabs his portfolio from the back seat. There are monsters out there. Cops have a lot more tools to catch these guys now.
I disagree I feel bad for friend if you don’t like your friend then at the end of the movie she should have said I just like you as a friend we should just be friends I love you Emma but you’re wrong
Huh? Do you mean her neighbour? It wasn’t her friend he lives in her building and told her he was listening to her through the walls…. she did say she wanted to just be friends in the bar scene . I never said I didn’t feel bad for him not sure where you got that?
@@spookyastronauts listen to me he said he listen thought walks hearing her read her lines and yes it was her she evens say it herself you do not pay attention and I wasn’t being rude I was trying to be nice thanks for hurting my feelings i even said that I love you and you can’t just be nice and say something nice back. You need to learn compassion.
@WilliamsPinch I feel like this person might be drunk....not making any sense, being super rude and then claiming Emma hurt their feelings when she was just pointing something out....
