I'm pretty sure few question the use of resin in wood turning now, and I think 3D printing to get the pattern or raw building blocks you want for a project is just another (Even smaller) step after resin. It does also open up the interesting possibility of 3D printing disposable moulds so you can pour complex shaped blocks of resin, and use them to build project's that would NEED a CNC router if you were to make them solely from wood. Maybe even allowing the basic shape to be preformed in assembly to have a pattern that doesn't get distorted when turned into the double curve of a bowl, or the waisted neck of a vase?
Yes! This project was really cool. I love how the blue was some what transparent. I watch a few other wood workers and they also use 3d printing sometimes in their projects. I think 3d printing is super amazing.
"Did I sell out by using a 3d printer?" Of course not. Being a maker is all about using what you can to make what you can. Not to mention that you had to have mad skills to design this for print and have it work even with a 3d printer. Mad respect to you!
Thanks Jonathan, really appreciate your feedback! I have yet to find a purist who would reject it; I thought that I might have come across a few. Gives me a little confidence to proceed with more projects like this. All the best. Ray
@@RayWhitbyCreations If we can 3d print full metal rockets in one go like Derek's video on Veritasium, surely no one would begrudge you its use for 3d puzzles.
That is fantastic Ray, and you didn't sell out. It was part of the project. I admire your patience and this piece must have tested it!! You are so talented. I always look forward to your videos.
Thanks Brenda! Really appreciate your feedback. Using 3d printing was something I wanted to do for a while, but I wonder if we lose something by relying too much on modern tech? I think there was a good balance of skills needed in order to produce a really good final piece. I wonder though whether someone is capable of producing such a project without the tech. That would be some incredible level of skill! Take care. Ray
Frankly, I think this is one of the most brilliant projects I've ever seen. I have a mate that loves 3D printers and has a wood work shop. I cant want to share this with him. Thank you, Ray!
Hi Summer Storm! Thanks so much for your encouraging feedback. I had this project in mind for a while and it came out better than expected; the fact that it didn't fly apart was surprising. I'd be interested to see if this idea has an impact on people like your friend and if he ever does something similar I'd love to see it, if he was willing to share it. I hope all is well with you. Ray
@@RayWhitbyCreations - My friend is more a computer/network expert... doesnt turn, but as far as something amazing and 3D prints. That I think will amaze him. :-) And yean, I was cringing the whole time thinking it would fly apart too. hehe.
You have the capacity to do anything that comes to your mind. It's just a matter of time and patience. You are the type of person who is motivated to challenge yourself. I respect and admire that trait.
Thanks so much for your encouragement! Still trying to ensure I don't over commit; some of the projects are exhausting, but they are fun to complete! Very happy with this one. Take care. Ray
People who say using modern tools (3D printer, carbide, table saw) is"selling out" are just short sighted. Might as well not use electricity. I say use every tool at your disposal. Great job on this one!
I'm wondering why this video hasn't blown up, you voice, your craftsmanship and idea deserve an Oscar. I'm definitely subscribing because I want to see more.
Wow, thank you Fred! Really appreciate your feedback. I'm not sure how to curry favour with the RU-vid Algorithm. I've done all that the RU-vid Academy (and Think Media, etc) says to try. I have one last mega creative project in the pipeline. If that doesn't work, then I might just give up! At least trying give up trying to get RU-vid to viralise (is that a verb?) my videos. All the best. Ray
@@RayWhitbyCreations Please don't give up, you've come this far already. You just need a little more patience and keep up with the good content, your work is exceptional and I'm pretty sure you will hit it big soon. I will be looking forward to your next video.
@@FREDSTECHHUB Thanks Fred. It'll be about finding balance, but as you probably know, it's too easy to get distracted with RU-vid analytics from time to time.
I loved both puzzles. I thought the odd piece in number 1 was an awesome touch. This one was inspiring for some ideas I will be trying when I finish my house remodel and get my shop space set up again. I will share when I am there. Looking forward to seeing what else you come up with and can inspire.
The thing I would like to add... what you should do... definitely. Add a LED LAMP on the inside... I would bet that would look awesome. Either use the puzzle as a lampshade and attach it to a stand... or just create a base plate(maybe with another puzzle like design) to put it onto and put a light inside.
Cool idea! Would like to put an LED into each piece and for all of them to light up when the puzzle is complete. Not quite sure where to start, but busy learning basic electronics. May take a while. I like to idea of a puzzle base too. Perhaps on the next one! All the best. Ray
@@RayWhitbyCreations Oh, so you can still disassemble those "puzzles"? I thought they now glued together. But maybe I misunderstand you lol. But it is relatively simple to get a LED strip or something similar and make it light up!
The best dad jokes are always those that make your children groan in despair! I have them aplenty. It's a wonder they still talk to me! Thanks for watching and commenting Christian. All the best. Ray
This line actually made me say, "oh god no," pause the video, hold my head in my hands and rock backwards and forwards for a couple of minutes until I had regained my composure. Worthy of Tim Vine.
Hi Ray, I'm speechless. People tell me I have a lot of patience when I make my segmented pens, but this is in a totally different galaxy. Astonishing work Ray. Take care mate. Cheers, Huw
Thanks so much Huw. It's all a learning curve and maybe a little penance for not having the patience in my younger years! Looking forward to Thursday's videos! All the best. Ray
I think the piece looked amazing Brilliant idea in using the printer this would look amazing with a led inside to show of the patterns and colour, I and a few others I would imagine would like to see that, Very entertaining.
Thanks for your feedback Martin. I've been thinking about how to place an LED into each piece and for it to light up only when it is correctly placed in the overall puzzle. Might be a bit beyond me at present, but one day perhaps! All the best. Ray
Thanks Jon. Potentially a skilled individual could produce the individual pieces from wood and have a good fit, alas that wouldn't be me! I like the idea of combining modern tech with traditional skills and have a number of projects in mind. I appreciate you watching and commenting. All the best. Ray
Only 284 likes??!!! Unbelievable and heart breaking. Beautiful work, so accurate and gentle. You deserve thousands of likes. Well done!! Thank you for a great video. ART!! 👍❤️
This is incredible Ray. Really love watching your projects and seeing what you come up with. There's so much time and attention gone into each element of this project. Great work.
Also consider setting the assembled cylinder in A plastic tub or jug a few km wider, and pouring an outer layer of resin. Can also do an inner layer by putting a cylinder shaped soda bottle a few mm narrower in as well.
I'd definitely like to see Chris Ramsay tackle that puzzle. And I have no problem with 3D printing in woodworking. There's no way you could have pulled off making that by hand. It's beautiful.
I'm amazed with this project Ray. Using the 3 d printer is a great idea. I might want to do a similar approach to one of my project these days. This is awesome 👍👍
Thanks Jojo, thankfully I do not have to wrestle my son to get access to it... yet! It worked really well for this project. Hopefully it will for some upcoming ones as well. All the best. Ray
Hi Ray. This is the second video I’ve watched of yours. I was so blown away by the first one that I had to comment and you graciously replied. Now I’m watching this and am just as amazed as I was with the first. This is stunning. I think it best I subscribe and keep you close.
Hi Abi, appreciate your supportive comments. I'm happy with how this one turned out and hoping to print a more challenging one in the near future. Just got to find the time. All the best. Ray
Thanks Kathy! I'm mostly on a journey to Alice's Wonderland in an upcoming video, so this was a good stepping stone project. Thanks for watching and commenting. all the best. Ray
Really nice idea and project. Rather than applying Vaseline by hand, consider spraying them with cooking oil. The spray gets into all the tight spaces and may even save a little time.
This is the first video I've watched from your channel and I am so very excited to see more! This project is beautiful! I love that you gave more in depth information about tools, technique, and even your anxiety about the project. It made the whole experience that much more involving. I've only recently found wood turning videos, but this is probably my new favorite channel.
You really don’t make things easy for yourself do you? Fabulous idea well executed. You are a clever man. Your ‘magic’ trick reminded me of Olivier Gomis, another talented RU-vidr. And your last reply intrigued me: I know you were in the military but you must have had a bad experience in Kazakhstan to be put off single malt! 🌞
Hi Ray. I think people appreciate justifiable complexity, though there may be easier ways to achieve a particular outcome. This was my way to achieve the usable 3d puzzle. So glad it held together on the lathe! I was an army brat for the first 8 years of my life, then kicked back to the UK. Kazakhstan (a more recent experience) was overall positive and I think it was more to do with the climate (very dry) that reduced the amount of what I used to drink rather than being put off completely! Thanks once again for watching and commenting. All the best. Ray
That’s incredible Ray, you are a genius!! Love it! The CNC is just another tool in the Arsenal, I would use one if I had it! No sell out. Thanks Ray, thumbs up as always!👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks so much Bruce! So many great pieces of tech that would help these projects, but can't have them all. Yet. Too little time as well. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Take care. Ray
Thanks so much! The biggest headache was how to get the wood filament print to stick to the base plate! I was so new to 3d printing, I tried all advice I could find online, lots of variables in the slicer program, took forever. Only when I caught an innocuous comment about hairspray on the base plate that it suddenly clicked. That it stayed together on the lathe was a surprise! All the best. Ray
A really beautiful piece that doubles as a nice lamp! I love puzzles that can also serve a function. My guess to the solution of assembly in read more I'd guess the solution to getting it together would be to assemble it in two halves and then slide them together.
Hi Flame, you already found the most optimal assembly method once you've solved both halves. Well done! Took me a while to figure it out! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. All the best. Ray
Thanks Pit! Someone once said "Learning patience can be a difficult experience, but once conquered, you will find life is easier", not quite conquered it, but getting there. All the best. Ray
Another phenomenal project! You asked for ideas: As far as the hollowing, you could have used some type of adhesive back vinyl, contact paper or make a sleeve to slide the piece into. Could you have used a forstner bit for the hollowing versus a chisel to work against a catch? It doesn't matter you pulled off an amazing project! Cheer!
Hi Creig. The adhesive back vinyl would work really well I think. As long as I could get the adhesive off after turning! Hollowing with the forstner bits is a great idea. Alas. I didn;t have any sharp ones for the project. Thanks so much for your feedback. All the best. Ray
Ray, 3D printer is a great tool for woodturning in Your hands. It was totally unthinkable project for me and to fits all parts together would take me few years 😁 Brilliant idea. You should get a patent papers on it.
Thanks Rav. I was surprised how quickly one could pick up how to use this new tech. I was more surprised the whole thing stayed together on the lathe! Lots of ideas to try, but so little time! Take care my friend. Ray
I still don't understand how you got all those pieces together. But then again, I took the stickers off my Rubik's Cube, so there's that. 🤷♂️ I think 3D Printing can be used tastefully. I've seen some cool stuff. I don't have access to one, but I enjoy watching. 😎
Yes, I remember doing that, removing stickers from the Rubik's cube in my youth! I did eventually learn how to solve the thing, but I've even forgotten that now. I had to cheat a little bit on this one too; hopefully I wont lose the solution... All the best. Ray
I really dig this! Turning out the inside is genius! The odd piece out was honestly my favorite part of the first video. I'd love to see a 3D printed version of that with the resin in between the pieces, but having an actual object you can play with at the end here is really clever! I think finding a way to polish the mating surfaces of the pieces would make it easier to use, but... that's way too much to do by hand. I wonder what happens if you try to flame polish wood PLA...
I think flame polishing resin and especially PLA filament would likely generate a mess and I'm way too timid to try it out. Perhaps I can check on a separate piece! Thanks so much for your feedback Patrick, really appreciate your thoughts. (and of course watching this video too!). Take care. Ray
Thank you Cole family! Hmm, it appears this interloper is making quite a name for him/herself. I'm being outdone... maybe I need to grow a few more legs!?! Take care. Ray
I watch a lot of woodturning vids, and find them all fascinating, but I've wondered something and this one is a perfect example. I see a lot of glue ups that end up being very odd shapes, bits hanging out, etc. much like this one. Why not take a sander to it in the beginning and roughly true the piece up, knocking off all the sticking out bits before starting to actually turn the piece? I noticed in this vid, after you had knocked off the rough bits, you took a sander to it, why not start with it?
Hi Wes. My reason (for what it's worth) is that to sand from the outset could take a long, long time. With a super sharp, pointy bit, I'm more confident that it will not rip out large chunks of resin and I can get to the sanding stage quicker. It's a bit like using a toothed plane then a standard plane for figured wood. At least, that was my approach when I was planing the soundboard of acoustic guitars. Others may have different reasons and different approaches. All the best. Ray
3d print a base with a mortise already made to fit the insert and thick enough to structurally support the cylinder and insert. Print pegs onto this base that slot into holes on the bottom ring of puzzle pieces, super glue in. This is freaking rad. Please do a third!
This would be an excellent addition Josh. I suppose I could reprint the bottom layer to accept the base pegs. Would have to be creative to turn the additional sections to match the existing cylinder. But it's a great idea to include in an upcoming project. It would make a lot of sense to include a base as you suggested. Looks like a third will be printing in due course. Just not sure when. I'm a couple of weeks behind on a technical project and not sure how well it'll turn out yet. All the best. Ray
Tbh, I'd just model the pieces in the rounded final shape. Using the lathe for fast sanding and polishing ain't a bad idea though, one way to make it consistent easier
Hi Louis. I wanted to have a resin fill for these pieces so had to have a level rim for casting, otherwise I would have printed them rounded and saved a headache! Maybe there's a way to achieve printing rounded pieces with a transparent filament, drill a small hole in the back, then fill...? Thanks for your comment. All the best. Ray
oh.. oh dear... concentric infill eh? I guess it was intended for the final design but I think it might have caused less headaches to use a real infill, cap it 70% of the way up and only do concentric with the open top for the top 29% the lighting at the end is very cool, hadn't considered that being a factor
Hi Kevin. At the time it seemed like the path of least resistance and was the least worse final effect when infilling. I'm intrigued by your idea, but wondering the best way to approach this through CAD and/or slicing? As is very evident, I am very new to 3d printing and CAD. Thanks for watching and commenting. All the best. Ray
I think its incredible. Thanks for sharing this really cool process. Want to share the STL? Had to take a while to figure out the math on the shapes. Love the design and execution.
Might just try and contact him. The design is not really optimised for a traditional assembly that people often enjoy (e.g. knowing that only those 2 pieces fit together and no where else), unless someone really likes monotone jigsaw puzzle assembly. So it could get lambasted by Chris. The purpose of the project is to spark creative ideas around 3d printing and woodturning for 3d puzzles. Thanks for watching and commenting. All the best. Ray
(Español) Saludos, primero que nada, felicitarte por el trabajo, ya que es interesante este nuevo concepto de rompecabezas. Con relación a una metodología para sustituir el uso de torno para la redondez, me parece una opción sería que uses PVA (es un filamento soluble) en algunas secciones de la impresión y rellenases la resina por la parte interna de la pieza (para poder conservar la redondez externa) y perderías la redondez interna (que me parece no es un problema). Adicionalmente ocuparías generar ciertos agujeros para permitir la resina rellene todas las piezas y que el aire no quedase capturado. Con esas adaptaciones podrías disolver la parte impresa externa y revelar la redondez de tu diseño (requeriría una limada y pulida como todo pero creo aligeraría esta parte). Como detalle el PVA suele ser mas caro que otros filamentos y requerirías una impresora de doble caldera para mezclar diversos materiales de forma apropiada. Espero te sirva la información. Saludos y mucha suerte. (English) Greetings. First of all, congratulations on the work, as this new puzzle concept is interesting. Regarding a methodology to replace the use of a lathe for roundness, it seems to me an option would be to use PVA (it is a soluble filament) in some sections of the impression and fill the resin on the inside of the piece (to be able to preserve the external roundness) and you would lose the internal roundness (which I think is not a problem). Additionally, you would have to generate certain holes to allow the resin to fill all the pieces and that the air is not captured. With those adaptations you could dissolve the external printed part and reveal the roundness of your design (it would require a smooth and polished like everything but I think it would lighten this part). As a detail, PVA is usually more expensive than other filaments and you would require a double boiler printer to mix various materials properly. I hope the information is usefull. Greetings and good luck.
Hi Óscar, what you describe is an excellent idea. I guess it would require many tests in order to get the final pieces to the exact dimensions to fit into a reasonably tight jigsaw puzzle (after dissolving the PLA), but the process would be more accessible to those without a lathe. Perhaps one day maybe I will be able to try this. Thanks so much for the suggestions. All the best. Ray
Great and fun idea. Well done. I must say that your tool rest is a bit far from the puzzle and a catch with a carbide tool when roughing out resin is frequent, not to mention you could’ve blown out your piece. Be safe man !
Thanks Fred. I see what you mean. With the diamond shaped carbide cutter tool, the square tang is quite far back, so the rest is further back to get the stability. But I have no excuse with the round nose scraper; the rest is so far away. Not good. Thanks for pointing it out. All the best. Ray
Hi Lísias. That's a great suggestion. I think there may be a way in FreeCAD to alter the edges of each piece to make it more like a jigsaw puzzle and easier to fit together. If I could learn electronics then I also want to make a version where each piece lights up when it is correctly positioned. That may take a long while! Thanks for watching and commenting. All the best. Ray
Hi Ray, I love wood not 3d printing, however, this project was riveting, not sure of any practical use for the project apart from aesthetics. Personally Ray I loved it as a cactus haha Thanks for sharing my friend another great project. I note your subscribers are starting to grow, well done.
Thanks for your feedback Jim. I do like the timelapse videos and the whole CAD design or sculpting for 3d printing. It'll help a number of projects I have in mind and I like the idea of combining different techniques. Once the basics are sorted, more practical aspects will follow; this one is still a usable jigsaw puzzle. Or simply just leave it as a night lamp or art? I've got some dioramas planned which may not be everyone's cup of tea, but still trying to develop content that engages people (and a few more views does help generate a little more funding for materials). All the best. Ray
