Wool Mesh Base Layer

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Merino wool mesh base layer was recommended to me by a viewer. I bought the Brynje merino wool long sleeve shirt with inlay. A mesh wool shirt for active cold weather camping and activities seems counterintuitive, however the mesh helps prevent sweat and dries quicker than a tight weave shirt.
I take the shirt for a test run on a sub-zero multi day deep snow remote camping trip in the Superior National Forest.
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@tomsitzman3952 9 месяцев назад

I have never used the wool/poly fishnet. When I called the USA dealer, he recommends the poly pro netting. I Bought the short sleeve version in poly pro and it is the Bomb. Back in the 70's the only version available at REI was the Cotton, now there are three versions to select from. I wore the cotton version 365 days a year. It is cool in the summer with a shirt with ventilation allowing the moving air to pull the sweat away from the body. In the winter with a layer over the fishnet tramps and insulated yet letting the vapor move to the outer layers or out the bottom of the untucked layers. So glad it is once again available. The loss of fish net in the USA for 45 years is a case of marketing "the new best idea poly pro." Get a copy of Colin Fletcher's 1968 book, The Complete Hiker. Colin's unit in WWII wore fishnet. It was also used in WWI. It is sad how marketing tells us what to buy and what we need and how improved it is. I'm Still using my Optimus 00 kerosine stove and my Seva 123 both from the late 60's. They are ten stories above the canister stoves and at the same weight. Colin point that out to us in 1968. Love the Boundry Waters. My ex wife 's Christmas present to the four grown grandkids is a week in the BWCA. I recommend wearing fishnet every day, of the year. I always wear it in the Boundry Waters in summer.and winter

@brianrodman1033 8 месяцев назад

Wiggy’s out of Colorado, while mainly known for their sleeping bags, sells fish net long underwear. They were the first ones to teach me about them. Not entirely sure off the top of my head what material they are made from. I need to order some bottoms and tops. Wiggy’s also offers a secondary mesh top made to wear over the mesh base layer. Interesting stuff, that I look forward to trying out myself.

@Cale-from-Wildwood 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing - expert advice appreciated.

@foorje Месяц назад

I love my kerosine stoves as well. Reliable as hell and the fact that you're using liquid fuel but getting such a large heat output is really nice.

@SkitterComic Год назад

"You're... too sexy for your shirt... too sexy for your shirt... your Norwegian mesh shiiiiirrrttt..." Great video. I may get one of these things.

@tom_olofsson Год назад

Wow, that freeze in snow technique is gold. I thought, for sure, you were going say, "I bit the bullet and learned Norwegian."

@YIO777 8 месяцев назад

I read your comment about 10 or 15 seconds before he said that and I still thought he was gonna say he learned Norwegian.🤣

@tc556guy 10 месяцев назад

I've opted for the more economically priced Wiggys two layer long sleeve option. I'm only a week or so into my testing and we don't have true winter conditions yet but I'm amazed at how dry it keeps me during exertion

@tomsitzman3952 9 месяцев назад

Don't limit yourself to cold weather with your fishnet. They are almost better in the summer.

@tc556guy 9 месяцев назад

@@tomsitzman3952 I might keep the finer mesh shirt to wear as a bug resistant shirt but I cant see keeping both layers for the entire hike through the summer months

@brianrodman1033 7 месяцев назад

Wiggy’s is such an underrated gem of a brand. Nice to hear some feedback about their fishnet base layers as they seem to fly below the radar of most potential buyers.

@tormodundheim259 8 месяцев назад

I wore this all the time during winter in the army. Did my year of service in the north of Norway. 🥶😅

@paulspence3601 10 месяцев назад

Video makes perfect sense. I have used a synthetic mesh base layer for years while road cycling - keeps you cool in summer heat and keeps you warm in winter cold - effectively introducing an air layer into your layering system so sweat cannot sit on your skin.

@tom_olofsson Год назад

I can't unsee that tree dance.

@gabeswiatkiewicz3725 Год назад

I've been curious about these for a couple years. I'll have to add to my list for when my current set wears out.

@Odinsjewl 9 месяцев назад

Been using Brynje here now in Norway for years. The quality is designed for warmth! Get a set or two

@Wojtek7060 Год назад

There are surplus Danish mesh t-shirts. They are goofy and long, like a short dress. But I love them. 100% synthetic, dirt cheap. HMAK 1986 I discovered them reading Wiktor Suworow's "Aquarium". Soviet specnaz was using such underwear, but much thicker nets

@brianadventures9622 Год назад

I typically wear a Merino blend 1/4 zip. This Dec I went hiking with a gentleman that was wearing this netted baselayer and he had good results around 20*F. I'll have to put it on the list for next winter, I was considering a "body mapped" baselayer, more breathable in hot zones and more material in cool zones.

@Marche_Nco 7 месяцев назад

Hello from France and thank you very much for all your very interesting videos. I discovered the channel with this video, and I went to watch other videos from your channel, it's a real pleasure to watch!!! I would love to make similar videos, and with the same humor! you have one more subscriber and I follow you now! Thanks again for sharing.🙂👍

@LoneHiker Год назад

I don’t think a RU-vid video has ever made me laugh and go straight to the comments that fast!

@MidwestBackpacker Год назад

I’ll be going in tour soon. 😜

@Keefography Год назад

They do sound like a nice lightweight sleep set up too. Will have to check them out more.

@ExpeditionaryJonny Год назад

Good video brother. Gear is super serious when getting outdoors, especially during inclement weather. I wear merino wool socks but haven't bit the bullet to get one for my top. It's definitely worth giving it a try. I imagine it would work really well as an outer layer while moving and then would need a compressible jacket supplement when I stop moving out here in NE. Thanks for sharing.

@robpelton Год назад

Very cool. I’ll look into them! Great review bud!

@PumpkinVillage Год назад

Never had seen that product. Thanks. I've been looking for something to wear as a new base layer. I sweat just thinking about it.😀 Take care, Al

@jeanclauderoget3756 Год назад

I am using it and I am satisfied with their product. yes, it is expensive but you only need one.

@jampskan5690 Год назад

I have often wondered why the netting is not popular in the US as well.

@shanelyon414 10 месяцев назад

Awesome video, thank you for the personal testimony. I will be bitting the bullet too thanks to youre advice.

@stevenrobertson4470 7 месяцев назад

Shug Emery is the greatest! I love him even though my wife thinks his whoo buddy is annoying! He's an amazing hammocker and winter hiker/camper! If he recommends mesh, that's the way to go!

@Lv4_o2 9 месяцев назад

REI sold a mesh base layer years ago, I have a top…best base layer for winter biking!

@Eunegin23 8 месяцев назад

My granddad was wearing mesh shirt. I found it very odd. Now I know why. He was a navy veteran. Arctic, WW2.

@JohnnyTaxonomy 8 месяцев назад

What this makes me think of is if Patagonia were to make a Capilene air lightweight version. The Capilene air base layers are more of a midweight in terms of the warmth that they provide. The design between this shirt and the general netting style design of the Capilene air base layers is very similar, they just have a different style construction and more loft to their fibers.

@thomaslofqvist1464 10 месяцев назад

I have three pieces of Brynje wool netting tee's, and they tick a lot boxes but they will get damp. The fluffy terry cloth knit merino/synthetic Woolpower 200g never gets damp, and the total point of contact with the skin is probably similar to that of Brynje's. My two pieces of 1/4 zip 200g has lasted me some 20-30 years over fall-winter-spring and countless of hot washing cycles. Honest and very long time verdict is top marks in every aspect, warm, cool, dry, light, stretchy, comfy, and whatever else. If there's anything I'd remark on, the Woolpower long johns 200g fit nice and tight after wash, but do bag out somewhat after a few days of wear. That said, I wear the long johns in 15-20 Celcius and down to -12 or -15, at which point I put on an extra, or the 400g. The zip top is too warm above 8-10 Celcius. And I do think they got their teeshirt wrong: it's really warm and needs the zip vent.

@thomaslofqvist1464 10 месяцев назад

To my rant I should add that my Brynje wool netting long johns likewise do get damp during hiking. But they're really excellent for pj's or low activity in temperate climate or travelling/office etc.

@Toots807 Год назад

I have been wearing the Patagonia capilene 4 base layer top and bottom has my active layer, when I know I'm going to be sweating. It's a synthetic where that's similar but not that close to the mark. I think they're around the same price range as well. Although this base layer has worked very well for me in the past I think I'm going to give the wool mesh a shot next winter. Thanks for the review.

@MidwestBackpacker Год назад

You bet dare bud. Good talkin’ to ya. Thanks!

@LearningOfOld 7 месяцев назад

I’m subscribing on the grounds of that awesome pole dance

@jtr82369 8 месяцев назад

Your intro was amazing lol

@safromnc8616 Год назад

I've oinly heard the name I'll have to check them out. I don't deal w/extreme cold very often but I'm all for wearing as little as possible to stay warm. I often wear an alpaca t-shirt or an icebreaker or Duckworth long sleeve as a base layer depending on the degree of cold. Thanks & interesting !

@safromnc8616 Год назад

Honestly it reminds me a bit of the new(er) polartec alpha stuff that Senchi makes. It is a lot lighter than a nrmal fleece and is kind of 'holey' but certainly not mesh. I may have mentioned them in your comparison video.

@tomsitzman3952 9 месяцев назад

You don't have to be in extreme cold, it works in the summer to cool you. Where it you around.

@sheilaross1449 10 месяцев назад

Meaty chunks < Sheba Two of my three cats are super picky about treats. It doesn't matter what kind of fancy artisan nibbles i bring home, they'll only eat Feline Greenies. The other one is a garbage can and eats everything, including these freaky-looking dried sardines.

@dbrophy 8 месяцев назад

Why did you choose the wool over the synthetic version? There's a blog post on their site that essentially says the synthetic version is better in every aspect than the wool...

@number1mouse 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for this. Intrigued. This new subscriber thanks you

@johnpatterson5744 Год назад

We’ve been wearing string vests in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 for donkey’s years 😂.👍

@AnonymousWon-uu5yn 10 месяцев назад

I'm wondering if mesh see through shirts might also work if they're made out of the right type of fabric. Because if they would work then that would be the cheapest way to go.

@everyoneknowsadave3580 Год назад

Great information …. It obviously traps a lot of air between your skin and the first base layer maximizing the insulation effect …. And being wool it doesn’t have the problems of say a cotton string vest (getting wet and staying wet) and is probably naturally anti-microbial as well … I like the fact it has the pads in the shoulders for the back pack straps great thinking there👍👍 yeh it’s pricey but then what piece of quality clothing isn’t ?? Except of course the Costco down jacket you had on at the outtro …. I got one too … I still love mine and it was a bargain !!! 😂

@tomsitzman3952 9 месяцев назад

I never had the old cotton fishnet get wet . It is a supper wicker. and the warm body heat keeps it dry.

@NickLoganbill 9 месяцев назад

You're friends with Shug?!?! Lucky :))

@davidyendoll5903 8 месяцев назад

An investment then !

@danceswithbadgers 3 месяца назад

Having used pieces from both Aclima and Brynje I can confirm the performance of these kind of baselayers. Both Aclima and Brynje share a really poor fit, however. They're both about 80%/20% wool/polyamide I think. Expect to size up from what you'd expect from their size charts and be prepared for long sleeves that aren't very long. My Aclima stuff wore out very quickly and, whist the Brynje material seems more durable the fit is poor - very snug in the shoulders and a good 5" short of my wrists. The mesh stuff from Ortovox is a way better fit and is much stretchier, and their Thermovent products are happily 99% merino and just 1% polyamide. It's very expensive though, so I'll be acquiring items as and when I spot them at end-of-season prices.

@danceswithbadgers Месяц назад

In addition to my initial comment ; the Ortovox Thermovent is not, according to Ortovox's reply to a question I asked about these items, superwashed merino in the conventional way, so not bleach/plastic coated like a lot of merino. I don't think it's enzyme washed either as it's very stretchy indeed, which isn't usually the case with enzyme washed stuff. These treatments are applied to merino to make the fibres smooth and resist felting when machine washing items. Although Ortovox weren't forthcoming about the treatment they DO use, apart from saying that it wasn't a superwash process, from experience with other kinds of treatments my feeling is that it's a so-called plasma process, using just static electricity to smooth the fibre surface. This gives a slightly singed smell from the product when new and not yet machine washed. Just my impression, however. As for the stretchiness, its my feeling, again without being able to get a direct answer on this, that the very small ratio of polyamide (1%) in the material used for these base layers indicates a proprietary version of the 'Nuyarn' process, which is neither corespun nor merely blended, but which results in a stretchy, springy fibre, much stretchier than conventional spinning techniques.

@stonedapeadventures Год назад

they make a synthetic as well.

@MidwestBackpacker Год назад

Correct

@MikeSmith-pr5tu Год назад

He is not being paid by them that is for sure. Said name wrong whole time. At the top of there own web page it says "Pronounced "Brin-ya". :) The products they provide are some of the best. I own multiple pieces of clothing from them now. I have the 3/4 pants in the Arctic Collection and they are to be used on the coldest of days. I am ordering the Super Thermo Mesh as I want them for the 10°f and up temperature.

@gordonneverdies 8 месяцев назад

Would you recommend these for hunting? About a mile walk then some climbing but after that I sit all day.

@MidwestBackpacker 8 месяцев назад

If you get overheated walking in, yes.

@bdmenne 9 месяцев назад

I remember Sug

@vzmichael 9 месяцев назад

What? Needing Norwegian subtitles? Really dude!? Skipped Norwegian in school? But seriously, I have never used fish net base layer but I have heard it is the way to go on the trail AND...dual purpose... can be worn Fridays; out on a club night! 😂

@maxsparks5183 8 месяцев назад

So it’s wool. Why isn’t it itching you to the point of digging your eyeballs out?

@MidwestBackpacker 8 месяцев назад

Try merino wool. Much softer.

@mikepreslar8686 9 месяцев назад

'Wiggy's' has a great alternative if price is an issue.

@1MileAtaTime 9 месяцев назад

I just came across your video, thanks for taking the time to make it. You should check out Wiggy's. I used his products in the military and it never let me down. He has a RU-vid channel and has been in the clothing industry forever.

@angryshrub1 11 месяцев назад

I think Wiggys has a version of this. I hope you had the consent of that tree before you made those moves.

@deerless999 Год назад

Very interesting…. I may have to get some. I sweat watching someone else walk..LOL

@Mr.E_Bodhako 8 месяцев назад

do the wool mesh shirts have give or stretch like a typical merino or polyester shirt? asking for sizing purposes so there is enough give for movement with a smaller size of the shirt.

@MidwestBackpacker 4 месяца назад

Actually more stretch

@KrizAkoni 8 месяцев назад

Ran into a guy wearing this on a winter weekend hike…and their mittens too. My interest is definitely piqued. 🧐

@10thAveFreezeOut 8 месяцев назад

Shug is a few tacos short of a fiesta, but otherwise great review! Tough to spend that kind of money without a thorough review to shore up confidence that it will be decent gear.

@cheffboiardee Год назад

I really look forward to your videos! Now I need to look into some stripper shirts! Ha

@OrbitalBurn1 8 месяцев назад

Crye Precision carries aclima.

@MaximPL1100 10 месяцев назад

ARMODILLO - ;) armodillomerino ;).

@KarlKrassnitzer-mm8wb 8 месяцев назад

I had a long sleeve byrnje mesh base layer. It was dissapointing. No good moisture transportation. I throw it away.

@xusmico187 5 месяцев назад

wiggys....

@pierrex3226 8 месяцев назад

Anybody who's been looking for excuses to cross dress and wear fishnet panty hose and the likes is going to start hiking, hard.

@Well_Spoken 7 месяцев назад

Hello, Good content. However, that loud stupid intro music ruins the presentation. A failing of many channels.

@robertschill2686 9 месяцев назад

Thirty years ago, I saw lambs-wool mesh under-layers in a fishing gear shop in Haugesund Norway. They seemed too expensive for me at the time, but I've regretted not buying a set ever since. Thanks for the source.

@pedroclaro7822 9 месяцев назад

Cheapo version - cycling inner mesh baselayer, and women's fishnet stockings. I've heard of American Footbal players who use the women's stockings. Cheapest Brynje product you'll find is the Super Thermo XC-Suit. I am mostly a bikepacker so I use MTB inner shorts, as a padded mesh baselayer for bellow my waist. I find that is enough for year round use. I use an extra pair of thick wool socks though. I've used them when hiking as well, since they're just comfortable, sweatabsorbant and antibacterial. But they are visible from above your pants/shorts, because of the foam padding sticking out. I've recently tried the women's stockings and they work beautifully for 3bucks. They are a bit frail though.

@outdooradventureswithshane3319 Год назад

Now the image of Jeremy pole dancing with a tree is forever embedded in our heads!!! Interesting shirt though

@MidwestBackpacker Год назад

You’re welcome. 😘

@Oslohiker 8 месяцев назад

I love your pronunciation of "Brynje". I'll start to use it here in Norway, too... Thanks....

@randompasser-by3418 7 месяцев назад

At the very beginning of the video I heard something like "burn your wool mesh orpvsrtchrtrt"

@kevinshields4380 Год назад

I had a wool mesh tshirt that I wore back in the late 70's. Not sure who made it...or where I got it. Worked great. If I recall correctly Fleece and polypro were just coming into the markets. I was still wearing wool and hiking with my trusty Kelty frame pack.

@wisenber 8 месяцев назад

I have the wool and the polypro top and the polypro bottoms. The polypro holds less moisture, is a bit lighter and dries much faster than the wool. The wool doesn't retain as much odor, but it is a bit more fragile than the polypro. Years ago, well before merino base layers were a thing, I actually used some of the cotton mesh short sleeved tops for a base layer while doing alpine climbing. With such a limited surface area, the cotton top did a good job compared to the other options available at the time. Of course the other options at the time were those cotton "waffle tops" or the old itchy wool. I tried a short sleeve version to wear under my merino t-shirts in the summer. Here in the humid Southeast, a mesh layer helps giver your sweat an opportunity to get away from your skin and actually provide some evaporative cooling.

@helenburns2186 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for this info.

@Chevy-hw6lw Год назад

Just ask the strippers at chip n dales , save yourself 210 buck bruh

@ericb.4358 10 месяцев назад

Had a Norwegia wool mesh base layer ages ago. DESPITE my warnings my wife washed them AND put them in the dryer. They shrank 5 sizes smaller.Aaaaarrggghhh! It was polyester ever after that incident.

@CuongLeTri-by3mt 9 месяцев назад

Ahh yes, I got that incident one. Hilarious with painful smile.

@flamefox8989 8 месяцев назад

You should have washed it yourself 😂

@benw5691 8 месяцев назад

Does the polyester work just as well?

@pierrex3226 8 месяцев назад

You're largely paying for the holes, so plastic should work just as well, maybe better than wool.

@laurais4047 8 месяцев назад

LOL- why does your wife do your laundry? Looser.

@Rok_Piletic 6 месяцев назад

All Cycling clothes lines ... use Mesh Base Layer of some kind? in EU

@TheMccluref 6 месяцев назад

What about the sizing?

@MidwestBackpacker 6 месяцев назад

Sizing is as expected. I have a L

@TheMccluref 6 месяцев назад

@@MidwestBackpacker thanks

@Smokdeel 11 месяцев назад

Awesome idea! Many thanks! P.S. Well done for the ice dive! 🤠👍

@MatthewSmith-cp3hu 9 месяцев назад

found several mesh shirts on Amazon just by searching mesh shirt they were night club marketed but seemed fine

@SkyForceOne2 9 месяцев назад

im not sure if your comment is of comedic nature, but the fibre really makes a difference aswell. wool is just so nice

@TheMccluref Год назад

Was it true to size or should we size up

@MidwestBackpacker Год назад

True to size. It is suppose to be kind of fitted. It wasn’t too tight though.

@TheMccluref Год назад

@@MidwestBackpacker thanks. I'll give it a try. Appreciate the review

@dzdaydreamer92 Год назад

I hate how backpacking cloths and gear is so darn expensive.

@RC-qf3mp Год назад

It’s still cheaper than golf and better exercise. That’s my justification at least.

@dzdaydreamer92 Год назад

@@RC-qf3mp lol....I tell my hubby its better than a gambling problem 🤣

@Oslohiker 8 месяцев назад

The Brynje products are extremely high quality. My Benie hat I've had for 20 years now. I have have fishnet long johns and shirts that are older than 15 years, and are still in use. Although here in Norway we have an excellent customer service where they fix all damaged products: I don't know about the US.

@RunDaRabbit 7 месяцев назад

Wiggys is american made

@flyingchop4954 8 месяцев назад

Why not both😂

@RC-qf3mp Год назад

The best part of ordering the wool mesh unisex base layer is that it comes with new pronouns! They/them, all the way. Just like the cool kids at your local liberal arts college! 🎭 🦄

@FastEddy396 4 месяца назад

As a Midwesterner who ended up going from the Antarctic to the Arctic, this is pure gold. Thank You for sharing. What was that green parka?

@MidwestBackpacker 4 месяца назад

Lester River Bushcraft boreal annorak

@For_Democracy_HD2 2 месяца назад

Anyone have the link to his alpaca hoodie!?!

@MidwestBackpacker 2 месяца назад

appalachiangearcompany.com

@stonedapeadventures Год назад

does it irritate the nipples ?

@MidwestBackpacker Год назад

Most hold back joke…. Seriously though it does not the wool is very soft.

@stonedapeadventures Год назад

@Midwest Backpacker honestly that's the biggest worry I've had keeping me from pulling the trigger lol, ill give it a go next year!!

@phil1953 Месяц назад

String vest,Helly Hansen Lifa.Have been using them both for 30 odd years (I the Live in UK) Buffalo Shirt/smock,dont need anything else when on the move,just a Down Jacket +Trs when camped up.

@Anza_34832 Год назад

Shug 🙂👍

@MidwestBackpacker Год назад

Whoo buddy

@mr.orim0782 8 месяцев назад

Bought mesh shirt from wiggys at half the cost and made in the 🇺🇸

@rg3412 8 месяцев назад

Are you Steve Carrell’s bald cousin? 😂 j/k love your video!

@MrBeef_08 Год назад

I don't often strip for my wife, but if I need to as an excuse to buy them, I'll think about it

@sandraredmond4812 8 месяцев назад

What do you suggest for bras? I find it always get cold from damp bra line.

@MidwestBackpacker 8 месяцев назад

? Don’t wear a bra.

@Bull_10RR 11 месяцев назад

Wool or synthetic option, to keep one warm ish, during long movements and high activity while under rain and near 0ºC temperatures? Also, did you overheat under high activity and had to remove layers?