Woolie Watched The Thing (1982) | Castle Super Beast Clips 

iirc that was jared leto, really immersed himself in the role

The dog actor who was named Jed (RIP), was actually a wolfdog (half-Husky, half-wolf), which is a large part of why it doesn't act like your typical Husky.

@@fifthgod The shot where they follow it going through the halls was it just doing its thing and it turned out perfect. I think it might've been the first take.

@@fifthgod Oh for real like the Metal Gear Solid dogs!

I've never seen a dog pull the "Hello my fellow kids" before but when that dog gets lead into the kennel and it just sits with the door to its back, facing all the actual dogs... lol it manages to perfectly embody that body language of "uncanny valley simulation/predator looking at prey"

I adore how swift and serious they take it. More movies need characters with that level of self-preservation.

And the flamethrowers aren't enough! They only manage to delay it for a while. Such a fantastic film

It literally goes: "Mac wants the flamethrower!" "Mac wants the what!?" "That's what I said, now MOVE!" Alert, he needs what? Ok, it must be really important!

Brother get the flamer. *THE HEAVY FLAMER*

@@callumdonington2227 but Perez Hilton isn't in the movie. wocka wocka.

"You know, the thing is kinda like fighting games, when you're down a game for the set and your opponent picks your character for the mirror"

I wonder if he’s a fan of Tremors

The thing is just footsies if you get down to it

Wil never get tired of people newly discovering 2 Mello music

you think MOLOTOV MUSIC can beat the thing?

Same.

@@rudeboyspodcast Same.

To be honest though, the CG is only one of the problems. Even if all the effects were practical it would still suck. They dumbed it down a whole lot to appeal to wider horror movie audiences. Remember when that girl somehow gets away from the Thing by crawling into a hole it can't fit through? Even though literally the core concept of it is that it can morph itself into any size and shape?

@@wselfwulfwulf9746 Mistakes were made.

@@wselfwulfwulf9746 Also the way the camera is shot and focus's on people when they die instead of the monster and what its doing. Seriously have the camera focus on the dead people after the monster is not actively attacking people.

Honestly I still find the prequel to be enjoyable tbh. Sure it doesn’t hold a candle to the original, but I don’t find it to be an outright bad movie honestly.

@@TheJ2tronic it would be fine as a spiritual sequel in a different universe but as a prequel it adds lore that harms the first film.

No no no this is awesome. It's perfect. They also said somethings they won't care about. What was that game? "Who the fuck cares?"

Hey, it's definently better than "Let me talk about how much Bayonetta 3's story sucks for the 3rd week straight, then bring it up again when we get into that new Bayonetta game announced at TGA's." At least here it's a topic a large part of the audience will have fun with.

@@armchairmaster That's what i want though. Discussion about aspects of the games. From two individuals with massive perspective on gaming as a whole. The distinction between games made by platinum and games made AND written by platinum. This is why i am here.

@@armchairmaster I thoroughly enjoy listening to them shit on Bayo 3’s story. It deserves it

@@damonsghost9235 It doesn't have to go on for multiple weeks in a row, however. Yes, Bayo 3's story is bad. However a lot of real estate from the podcasts gets dedicated to this same topic, and gets further covered on their own time and on Twitter. There were a lot of trailers shown off at TGA's that literally only got a "Sure!" from both Pat and Woolie, and it felt like it was less "to make a funny bit" and more "Oh fuck we're taking too long just blow through these." I don't recall any significant talk about Jedi Survivor, Warhammer Space Marine 2, or that one Returnal-like Scars Above, that literally just looks like "Returnal, but the main girl has a fatter ass." Unfortunately Woolie has banned any variation of "next bit", so some podcasts tend to drag more than they should.

My God. A Half Husky Half Wolf. Thats like 3/4 of a wolf lol. They might as well have just brought one on set.

@@music79075 Amazing what a quarter of dog can do lol.

That gives some context on how bitter he sounded whenever someone praised him for it. I thought it was mainly the money but hearing praise years after your reputation has already been sullied has to suck.

I'll always be of the opinion that The Thing is a weapon (largely) in the control of another species. It was able to begin building a saucer, presumably it'd ultimately be a flying one. That kind of information isn't possible to store in one cell. I propose that The Thing alters the mind (or some other organ) of its host to become a receiver for remote receipt of commands, even direct control could be possible. Most functions such as violence and perhaps even flesh-forming would be self determined, but there's no way a single cell could build a complex vehicle from unfamiliar components.

"The other sad thing is " That'd be a good name for the 2011 prequel

the story of the prequel is one of the most tragic things ever. the people who made the film LOVED THE THING. they were as big as fans as the thing as, well, everyone else. like, they were such big fans of the thing they went and made their own film that uses a creature that takes over peoples' body and made it with 100% practical effects as a sort of love letter to fans of the thing that were disappointed by the prequel

@@LilAnonomus I remember a story about him having lunch with Del Toro and he got pretty pissy after he praised him for the Thing

Woolie Madden, the True Master of Suspense.

What the fuck. Who does that?

@@amf1435 There is a RU-vid channel called fact fiend that talks about this. On a better note, the studio that did the practical effects went on to make their own movie that is pretty much The Thing but their own version. Their movie has a better metacritic score compared to the prequel Thing.

I thought I had heard that they hadn't finished all the practical effects for the movie and that the decision to go CG was still during principal photography, but maybe I got wrong info or just am misremembering it.

Same thing with Wolfman 2010. They did it practically, then painted over it with CG.

Almost as bad as what they did to Adrian Brody in the thin red line

It's never too late for someone to discover The Thing.

@@RocRolDis oh no, I don’t mean it as a slight, more just hilariously on brand.

exactly. i like to think they aren't aware as it helps them blend in and act as they naturally would act, the thing part of them only coming out when the moment calls for it, like if they're alone or threatened.

The story that gives you the Thing from the perspective of the Thing is cool (not sure if its Canon). It touches on how your consciousness does become aware but at that point you are just a passenger in your own body as your consciousness is slowly consumed and fades away.

@@Lozard2324 it’s not canon and it’s called The Things. Good little read honestly. Worth checking out since it’s pretty well written for fanfiction.

Yeah, one of the coolest details in "Things" is that assimilation process speed varies based on how the infection was administered. The slip one drop of my blood into your body is the slowest version, but the target doesn't know it's happening. There's a line that is something like, "I was barely a twitch in his left pinky at the time" as The Thing defines itself by how much control is has.

I sometimes wonder what would have happened if they just tried talking to the Thing. It's stupid, but you can't help but wonder, you know?

There was actually an interview with him a year or two ago where the interviewer gushes about how much he loves The Thing and how it was criminal that it was unappreciated in its time and Carpenter replies (IIRC) “Well how the fuck does that help me now?”

@@TheArkTheArkTheArk we should have bought it at full price as soon as it came out.

Actually there’s also a convention appearance where a fan asks him “Escape From New York was incredible. What the hell happened in Escape From LA?” And Carpenter’s immediate response is to flip him the bird and say “Fuck you.” God he’s great.

Everyone wanted to see ET at the time, it seems.

Loved you in Alien³

john carpenter wasn't lying, that really was The Thing

Yea. Cause there’s no real name you can think of to call it except “It’s a Thing.”

Honestly, the title of the original short story would've worked too: "Who goes there?" But the Thing is a lot more impactful as a title

@@wselfwulfwulf9746 That's a good'n though. It works on *two levels.*

the real The Thing were the friends we made along the way.

you could have told her the cat in alien and aliens will be fine. I was more scared for that cat than I was for Ripley.

@@MrKuemmelbrot The cat's barely in Aliens, now the dog in Alien³

This happened

You dodged a bullet, homie. If she ain't watchin The Thing, she ain't worth it.

@@atticusrex9468 If she doesn't "get" The Thing, she doesn't get my thing.

Oh that would have been terrifying to watch I’m so upset now that it was cut

While that sounds cool, less is sometimes more and I think it was wisely cut

@@wuwu007 true, but I feel like it would be nice for an extended cut if they had actually filmed it

Personally i like to imagine he's the real true survivor and just ran off screen

I remember hearing that Nauls was suppose to be cornered by the Thing in a bathroom and instead he decides to use a flare to burn himself alive because he'd rather die than be turned also apparently that actor was just out of rehab and paranoid the cast and crew were all racist or something like that.

I wonder what would have happened if the plot was handled by the (small) Norwegian part of the production rather than the American. Norwegian sci-fi on film was basically dead by then, but Norway kinda already did The Thing (minus the body horror and stuff) back in 1978, with Blindpassasjer, a TV show about the crew of a spaceship waking up to find out that an unidetified body has been disposed off while they slept, and eventually realize one of them have been killed and replaced by an alien shapeshifter, but not knowing who. The guys who wrote it were still writing SF books and plays and such when the prequel was being made. You'd just need someone to bonk 'em over the head whenever they would get the impulsive to make the alien the sympathetic one and man the real monster.

Ah. I never saw that version of The Thing, but I already feel what you mean. I think I've especially hit my wall with that "we can use X thing as a weapon" trope in Jurassic World. At least in this 1982 The Thing, you can understand why they didn't immediately start toasting monster corpses: they wanted discovery rewards and all that. It's a reasonable thing for them to want.

To be fair it was very obvious that Kurt Russel was the main character and wouldnt die or be The Thing at least until the end. And that ends up being true. Though I will say, by the middle point I liked how theres a moment where you can think its got Kurt, which is good.

It also suffered from a Mary Sue problem, where they inserted a woman into the story who manages to somehow be everything and know everything she has to to make it to the end. It wasn't super obnoxious like it can be, with women being able to beat men 3 times their size to death, but it was definitely present.

"Mac wants the flamethrower!"

My favorite part is that Bennings doesn't really look that much like Pat. But *Thing-Bennings*? Dead on.

Oh Christ, never knew that over here. That's REALLY fascinating!

Just finished reading "The Things" by Peter Watts and despite being non-canon, I really like the idea that there is a degree of curiosity within The Thing's consciousness that drives it. A seemingly very eloquent one, I mean it did intend to build a spaceship so it must have a significant degree of intelligence and from it's point of view is a very different contrast to the raw fear it inspires in the people it "terrorizes".

@@deslacooda I agree that short story is very well done, it's a bizarre way of humanizing an incomprehensible horror, the idea that despite its vast intellect it's confused and perplexed by us and how we interact with the world.

Castle Super Beast (FINAL)

Self psychic damage in real time. It just bounced back and BAM!

Passive Counterspell'd

SAY IT IRONICALLY AND IT'LL BECOME UNIRONIC EVERY TIME

This seems to be the case when Palmer-Thing's reaction to the spider head is surprise, which ends up calling attention to it, rather than trying to pretend he didn't see it.

@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 I always assumed it was more of it "it's willing to sell out its own kind if it means it survives"

@Gorse Aurn I agree, I just disagree with the word "infection" because it implies the Thing is like a virus which is theory that is really stupid and flies in the face of how it works in the movie. If it was a virus there would be no film at all, they'd lose almost instantly, the Thing shows it has to physically transform and attack you in order to turn you into it. It's not infecting you, it's eating you and then using your body to make another one of itself.

I made this point in another comment, but if it was capable of cooperating with “itself” (other ‘things’) it totally would have and should have dismembered itself and spread itself around the base in order to take over the base.

@@SeruraRenge11 Palmer wasn't in any immediate danger of being suspected when he reacted to the spider head though, if anything his drawing MacCready's attention to it was what gave them the idea of the blood test, ironically leading to Palmer-Thing's exposure.

Why exatly does she dislike about it, if i may ask? Does she have an actual reason or its cause of the Gore and brutal human and animal death scenes?

@Peter White I think it's the gore but everytime I ask her she just refers to it as "the dumbest movie I've ever seen." She also despises Alien movies and I think she hates it on principle for that reason. We pointed out to her how it's known for being really smart and she just gave us the death glare. Also she considers The Happening one of the smartest movies she's ever seen so I don't trust her film opinions in the slightest.

@@MAJR172 Maybe your Mom is just playing the long con, by trolling all of you for years? ^^

@@MAJR172 sorry your mom has terrible taste.

@@MAJR172 I think it's honestly just the gore. It shocked/turned her off so much that the whole move automatically becomes "bad and dumb". I know people who automatically default to something "being bad" if it contains one of their achilles heels like graphic gore, one of their fobias etc, no matter if the rest of said media is actually great.

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN DEATH NOTE????

@@butcherpete5869 Moments like that is why I loved the 4 person podcast, classic.

Woolie has not seen a lot of devil movies

So?

Lol funnily enough even i watched it for the first time recently

I don't understand his thought process. Did he think Wilford Brimley dug the hole and built the UFO before Pat said otherwise? Like... what?

@@wselfwulfwulf9746 He thought that the Brimley-Thing excavated the entire tunnel and built half a ship in around 7 hours, and that's assuming he's a thing from the start.

It ain't that deep you three. It's a *blind review* and it's not without reason to think it could be a mindless creature (the flood is also a terrible example cause Earky halo games treated it like a zombie Parasite.) Pat even says that it's possible another alien was transporting it, most of the movie is literally made for audience interpretation. It be boring if woolie or pat came to the same conclusions as you, you wouldn't be here if you didn't want his take in the movie. Relax it's NOT that deep.

@@violetshadowstone5250 The Thing literally builds a UFO out of scraps. That's not up to interpretation, the Thing is both sentient and intelligent.

@@violetshadowstone5250 We're talking about Woolie's incorrect assumption that the Brimley-thing excavated the entire underside of the shack he was relegated to after he went nuts and also built a ship.

My favorite movie of his is either The Thing or Prince of Darkness, both movies where he really gets to flex with weird monsters.

Agreed. The disappointing thing is how much of his work was CUT from that movie, much of it more sophisticated and graphic than what made it into the final film. I know you can see some of it on youtube, I watched a making of documentary that was on here a few years ago.

@@dieselpunk4117 I'm just happy we have the jawless zombie and the "choke on 'em" scene still

Bro the dude who gets his vocal cords ripped out while screaming is burned into my memory

@@noahgilmore4837 As the number one zombie genre shill: he's definitely in the top 3 deaths in a zombie movie for sure

i was gonna ask which one was the "Send More Paramedics" one and now i've learned the star of Dawn was the flipping dad from Kenan and Kel. *why doesn't anybody tell me these things!*

Oooh, I dunno. I wanna say The Shining is the Horror Godfather, but I accept a debate here.

I thought Woolie was Hellpockets' doppelganger

@@krodmandoon3479brennan is already better woolie though

Gamer's the Gerard Butler film. I think you're referring to Stay Alive?

i liked Stay Alive. i like goofy stuff.

@@miguelnewmexico8641 Ain't nothin' wrong with goofy!

@@professornormal9677 Yeah, probably

And THAT kids is why it’s community college.

i went and watched it for first time partly bc of this and partly bc of Dvorah on Mortal Kombat

That was a damn good read, thanks.

shoutsout to his other book BLINDSIGHT as well, it isn't even a horror book but it spooked the shit outta me. It goes very well with what Woolie says of how cool the concept of the Thing being this alien without a self is funnily enough.

Oh yes, definitely worth a read if you liked this movie.

I was looking for this comment. Bennings looks a LOT like Pat.

I beat that game a few times as a kid and never once thought to test my main character. Also I can't really remember anything about it other than I DID beat it. May have to keep that in the mental vault as a game I *maybe* enjoyed? I know toward the end most of your screen became really hard to really make out anything for some reason. I think there was an enemy that spammed a "blinding" attack that they just throw at you non stop?

Ah, but that's the thing: It's not a dog, now is it?

​@@gingermcgingin4106 You're not wrong, but in a panic I've heard people shout 'kill the dog'. I'm just amused they fell for the trick and shout something horrendous in fear.

Oh snap that's pretty terrifying to think of a creature like JC's Thing being a mass of flesh and limbs that can also read minds.

Ah i see. So Mcready becomes the cheating bitch?

I like to think McCready was the thing and there was a drop of him in that booze

even crazier: they had it all built and ready and it accidentally BURNED DOWN-- they had to rebuild every part of it!

Are the Things selfish though? Maybe, but we could also see it as desperation. The Thing has been stuck in this artic sinkhole for thousands of years and has barely made any progress in escaping it. Perhaps it's think more along the lines of escaping for the greater good of itself, or it's species if we consider each Thing to have some form of individuality. We see that Blair-Thing was building a ship under the shack and this act could hint at a some form of hierarchy among the Things running around the camp. While we do see the Things somewhat selfishly sacrifice one another to either stay hidden or defend themselves, part of it could also be that their main goal is to keep the humans busy or away from Blair-Thing whose busy moving around collecting parts and building the ship in secret.

@@Zikk0_o It is a gestalt organism. It doesn't have an actual hive mind, so each individual instance of the Thing can be seen as a kind of individual, but I think of it as a distributed, single, organism. I would assume size also determines each Thing's processing power The Thing is selfish in that it wants to persist. Different parts of it might end up working against other parts of it, but when a drop of yourself is all you need to subvert someone you think of survival in different terms.

@@planguy9575 I don't think size alone dictates the hierarchy of power. The Thing is able to not only absorb appearance, but also memories and intelligence. If they don't share a single mind or a some type of linked consciousness then that means each Thing can have a varying degree of intelligence once separated from one another. So the Blair-Thing for instance would be the only Thing that possesses Blair's memories and knowledge until or if other Things rejoin with it, if possible. I don't necessarily think they're selfish but rather they are in an mutual understanding with one another about the greater goal in escaping the artic landscape. They are never shown to turn on each other for petty reasons. Palmer-Thing somewhat turns on Norris-Thing specifically to gain more trust with the rest of the crew after a very tense moment. When you look at the grand scheme the creatures are playing you can see how they were all somewhat working together in keeping things contained to the inside of the main camp, leaving Blair-Thing alone to roam around and build the ship. Survival can mean many different things to the Thing. We know it's #1 priority is to escape the artic, but as far as assimilation goes there is a degree of choice in what it wants to absorb. Clark could've been assimilated plenty of times and was even licked by the dog-Thing, yet he was never infected. I don't think the Thing just absorbs indiscriminately past a certain threshold of intelligence has been gained.

^ Lol I love how "Terminal Montage" made a video equating these bots as digital "The Thing"

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Huh, I never actually noticed that. I always just thought that it was foreshadowing how he would end up blowing the entire station to bits since he couldn't actually win against the Thing otherwise

It makes more sense that it was building a ship though. It's already implied from the beginning of the movie that it's already absorbed an intelligent lifeform that crash landed on earth so it would likely know how to cobble together something that could at least help it travel a bit of distance out of the artic. Freezing itself always felt like a last option if everything else was scrapped and if it really wanted to freeze then it could've done that at almost any time.