Wooper Only - Pokemon Crystal

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Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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@nachtaron Год назад

I think Haunter was sent out first cause he saw more damage with night shade than with gengars shadow ball.

@zenitfan4life Год назад

Interesting theory, wonder if someone can test by using a Pokémon that resists shadow ball.

@fday8432 Год назад

@@zenitfan4life It's a theory that's also supported by the "Elo World" video for Crystal, where the video creator actually explains every subroutine for smart trainers.

@N12015 Год назад

In short, Wooper is so ridiculously weak Haunter is sent before Gengar. GOT IT.

@theSato Год назад

@@N12015 the opposite it would be. If gengar's shadow ball does less than a fixed damage move to wooper..

@Lockirby2 Год назад

I feel like the Quagsire line is better at being team players than solo mons.

@Steve_A93 Год назад

I've been catching up on a lot of your old videos, now caught up to the start of 2023 so getting close to being caught up! 😃Just wanted to say I enjoy your content, love the recurring inside jokes and your overall attitude towards these runs!!

@Smileyrat Год назад

Grats

@wiseguise5960 Год назад

One thing I have noticed, that I wonder if anyone else has noticed, in your videos is that you also time the little arrow in Lances dialog box with the battle theme. I first noticed this many many many videos ago. It's the little things you do that make me appreciate how much effort you put into these videos.

@imlrg9164 Год назад

Greetings, fellow small detail noticer! Hope you're having a good day! I realized this back in the Blastoise vs. Feraligatr video, cool detail!

@matversion2 Год назад

Releasing while I'm at work, Scott how you gonna make my closing shift better like that. You're truly the best!

@Smileyrat Год назад

This came out in the morning for me. It was good to have in my pocket for my close shift as well.

@perkypenguin1663 Год назад

It’s a shame that Grass moves are such an Achilles heel for Wooper because it’s adorable. I do wonder if using Rare Candies before rival 4 would improve that fight significantly, but otherwise, I’d say you handled Wooper very well!

@dorel102 11 месяцев назад

Haven’t watched in a while, it’s incredible how much better everything got, recording, editing, gameplay etc, really fun!

@DavideBattisti Год назад

Hype for Gengar, and my best compliments for your commitment for the next months: you rock!

@bateltheassistant Год назад

Wooper is such an adorable pokemon, especially with how it is presented in the thumbnail.😊 Wooper has a great coverage and some great typing ,most of it's problems are the low spacial defense and special attack,and that awful speed stat.🫣 And the 4 times weakness to grass types ,makes it a nightmare for Wooper to deal with them. Luckily grass types has a lot of weakness to bug,ice ,flying and poison. One way to counter them is to use hp bug which can complement it's attack stat or using sludge bomb after beating team rocket at Mahogany . I'm not sure if you could access that part before beating the 6th gym , but if you could that could make sludge bomb a really good option . Because after all most of the mid to late game is filled with pokemon with low defenses and Wooper is more of a physical attacker then a special one . Ice punch is really good when it comes to freeze luck , which can save some extra grinding, so I see why you choose to stick with it throughout both runs. 🤔 But at least I'm really glad that Wooper is not in the Bruno tier . And as for the Gengar playthrough,be careful of dark types and psychic types.😊

@HatZ.PetoriaZero Год назад

Fun fact: if I remember correctly, I think I beat Red with Wooper at around level 70 with rollout. Woopy Boy is broken

@ScottE-2 Год назад

Rollout is quite powerful and such a feat has also been performed with Dunsparse if memory serves right. Red has no protection from rock type moves as 2 of them are quite weak to it.

@quinceekingston4335 Год назад

I love your content and have enjoyed watching your channel and content grow. Started watching a few years ago and was so psyched to see when you picked ariados for a run after I left a comment. So glad you're finding success and not burning out!

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

Hey Quincee, that is along time ago! Thanks for sticking around and giving me the time to develop my own style. Also giving me the time to get better at the game and making videos in general.

@PenguinMafia336 Год назад

Good job Scott🎉, I thought wooper would of done better though with the type it has.

@benshotyou Год назад

just found your channel man, and you're easily my favorite pokemon tuber now.

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

Thanks for the kind words. Glad to have you here!

@tysonpestner Год назад

The woofer evolutionary line was always one of my favorites in second gen

@pommyadam Год назад

does Gen2 also come with the "pointless fun stats" like bonks? also given that Wooper did it in 22mins in its first playthrough, would be interesting to see a "how long from Lance->Red" for the tier list (would imagine all pokes are pretty similar though)

@marksullivan9692 Год назад

Excited to see how whooper finished with early earthquake. I expect the rivals gonna be a huge all for my little guy

@grundgutigertv6170 Год назад

Gosh we are already at chandelure! If scott continues to grow that fast, we will run out of Pokemon before Gen 10 is out 😂

@mukariz Год назад

I just love how the guy with no arms can dig and ice punch.

@randaljr.8581 Год назад

amazing hearing about the end of the year preparation! looking forward to it

@UnknownVir Год назад

I'm a huge wooper fan! look forward to the E tier finish whenever another run is played

@KiranasOfRizon Год назад

>Next run will be Gengar Oh that will be fun. Especially considering the first gym is full of pokemon that are completely immune to ghost type moves. And also several of the route trainers you'll run into are also running pokemon immune to ghost type moves.

@juliosmotivation3268 Год назад

My man's really posted at 1am lol. I respect the effort

@andreapareti324 Год назад

I love Wooper but I absolutely do not need you to do another video with it, you've done a great job with this one. Also, I know you said to not worry about your mental health, especially for the volume of work for December, but commenting helps with the algorithm, so.. Don't overexert yourself (or your editor and crew)! Also also, Quagsire and Magcargo might make for a decent pair for a future VS video? Considering the fact that they're both dual Types in some situations where it might arguably be better to be mono-typed and the comparisons drawn between their pre-evos in this video...

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

I want to do that vs video. Maybe next year?

@ilovegarradors Год назад

I recently found out Chikorita is based on a daikon radish. So fun fact.

@haxkn Год назад

I have a feeling you mixed up am/pm, but still happy for the early video

@JustinnePunsalang Год назад

Can't wait for you to do Gen V where levelling up is harder because the higher your level is compared to the wild Pokemon you grind with, the smaller EXP you get.

@gaminggoddess85 Год назад

This run is probably the only time in Pokemon history that anyone's ever thought "oh God, a Meganium".

@X-hauseTED-Talk Год назад

I never really thought about spreading out the runs like that before. That's super smart

@trevorparker6400 10 месяцев назад

While I know it sucks for Scott, as a Chikorita fan, I love how it's the most challenging pokemon for the rival

@devaventus3031 Год назад

Am i really the only one mentioning that quick claw activated 3 times in a row against morty? XD

@RealDuendeNoFake Год назад

Wooper and Quagsire are my favourite pokemon so, this makes me really happy lol

@LunarWingCloud Год назад

I love Wooper, he's just vibin'

@jadencory6169 Год назад

If ditto uses struggle to kill metapod, dose that not mean ditto is struggling? 🤔

@laureate90 Год назад

Great work ethic, man. Hope you're enjoying your honeymoon.

@Icetongue 11 месяцев назад

wooper is slower because he's just a chill lil guy!

@darkmoon3574 Год назад

Hey There. Love the Videos good Luck With Pokemon Runs.

@Talkin-fr0g Год назад

This is a weird request but you should port paldean whooper to your game and see how it compares!

@Sunaki1000 Год назад

Wooper sould be fun to play, despite beeing bad. The Typing, and Coverage is just to sweet.

@Zorafin Год назад

I'm finished with my gen 2 romhack! I buffed the difficulty of the Elite Four, but they ended up impossible with the amount of money they gave you, and I didn't want to make the trainer feel like they should sit there and farm them for money after they win, so I had a full heal between each one, and I thought that was fun. Then I buffed every gym leader after the Elite Four to be lv45 at least, and a diverse team of 6. Surge was still a joke, a clean sweep with my earth type. Sabrina was really hard too, but I think that's just because I gave her a Starmie, and every trainer I gave a Starmie was impossible. The biggest thing though was, a leader was hard if my counter to their type didn't hit their final evolution. And then was easy if I did. Having a properly evolved pokemon really makes a huge difference. I still think the game is most fun with a middle tier pokemon. Low tier is so weak that the game slows to a crawl, but high tier plows through enemies so quickly they don't have a chance to counter. Even bosses melt to them. ...say have you done any videos on Starmie? I'm terrified of how powerful they are. I wonder how cleanly they'll beat a game.

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

You gotta send me the rom hack! Starmie soon

@Zorafin Год назад

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fN1nr0o7KPM.html You're probably best off checking the description here, since I've had to patch it like seven times to deal with hardlocks ^^; I think that link should get you a rom that has everything cleaned up, but the final boss is overtuned. Thank you for your interest! It was a lot of hard work, though the general idea is having fun coming up with monster designs and bringing them to life while using my OC. Looking forward to you seeing you destroy everything with an insane move pool and optimized stats!

@UnknownVir Год назад

27:15 "The psychic type has no effect on fire types. I like when accidental word swaps make funny sentences like this 🤭

@DarkSerris Год назад

Whooper can learn "Ice punch", makes sense ...

@DJ-se5pl Год назад

Scott, do you think you can describe how Uber is able to use an icy fist to punch?

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

With its tail?!

@brunokrizan275 Год назад

Great video as always keep it up cant wait to see the gengar in crystal

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

Editing it today!

@nerdshift8284 Год назад

I know you said Curse doesn't provide much value early game. But given these damage ranges, maybe it would serve wooper quite well. Curse, Amnesia, Return and Earthquake with a Quickclaw would be pretty luck based at times (hoping for no crits and quick claw procs), but could bust through a lot of obstacles I would think.

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

You can’t get curse before Kanto

@nerdshift8284 Год назад

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon You are correct. Somehow I thought you got it in slowpoke Well

@riptidetube123 Год назад

Before even watching, 10 bucks says he references how weird it is wooper can learn the elemental punches

@Calintares Год назад

I wonder if you could've set up some amnesias the times you got lucky freezes.

@PegasusPablo Год назад

I am impressed by Lance's intro!

@itsquinnyp Год назад

Love your content. Have you looked into scripting less "However"s, though? It was incredibly notable this video.

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

I haven’t. I don’t script anymore actually. Everything has been done script-less for a year. I’ll work to not overuse “however”

@jakubmarcinkowski6581 Год назад

I watch too many nuzzlockes, I wondered why you were over the level cap at Falkner XD

@tannerkennedy5820 Год назад

You should do a level 99 mewtwo run in gen 1 with hand selected move set. Just to see what the absolute fastest time possible is

@jamescallaghan7726 Год назад

Thank you for all of your hard work!

@Austin007 Год назад

Wooper is S tier in terms of cuteness!

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

It is!

@ChinComet Год назад

Did you schedule the upload for the wrong time? What happened?

@TJF588 Год назад

A Ground-Type learning all the Ground-Type TMs? Gligar rolling in its roost.

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

Roost? Seems like a move that would be too good to give Gligar.

@riotd.r.8363 Год назад

How... what are you punching with, Wooper?

@sonsysy4195 Год назад

I think it would be ridiculous for Jasmine's Steelix to have sunny day since it powers up its weakness moves.

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

Well, it counters water-type moves

@zenitfan4life Год назад

Wait, why was this video released in the middle of the night? Usually they come out around 1pm EST. Did someone say choose 1am by accident? xD

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

It was a mistake haha

@Mis73rRand0m Год назад

How does a creature with no arms use Ice Punch? Or is it using ice to punch? lol

@Wilverry Год назад

6:58 - 7:15 videotime* When you reset after loosing to the rival do you set the clock back? It didnt appear so, you beat bugsy and lost to rival at (23:50) something, and were getting past bugsy again at (24:22), so you are adding more time to progress you already timed?

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

Real-time continues to accumulate while I play even if I reset. That’s how real-time works. If you want a metric that only tracks the successful attempts then it’s better to use gametime which resets everytime the cartridge resets.

@Wilverry Год назад

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I see, as you play on 4x it can be difficult for in game, I don't blame you for not trying to manage the times, wonderful content 😃

@davidespadin78 Год назад

This is not releated to the games but uh how did the pokemon trainers in the seires like ash know what pokemon was in which pokeball if they all look the same for the most part if they just used regular pokeballs

@MeriadocMyr 11 месяцев назад

So with wooper done, when will you be acquiring the sire?

@mariozanchez Год назад

Is there a certain time and day of the week you set the game to or do you just go with the default?

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

Default - Sunday. My software adjusts the day as I play for convenience so that certain time based events happen.

@jazzyj5374 Год назад

I love 1 am uploads

@PokeMaster22222 Год назад

How does Wooper use Ice Punch and DynamicPunch He has no hands

@poketrainerjames7246 Год назад

Why does wooper learn ice punch? Because he is the fist

@SSMD999 Год назад

How does wooper learn ice punch without any hands/paws?

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

Tail?

@nicholsjj3371 Год назад

@15:00 shoutout Dennis

@ChibiCosmos Год назад

Wooper was the first shiny i caught. Give us a chance precious. But yeh Def give it a huge break.

@Echiewel Год назад

There are like, 2 grass types in all of Johto. How did you manage to lose to about 8 of them?

@Maravillante 9 месяцев назад

6:02 Slowpoke sight

@dudethatworks22487 Год назад

FINALLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY My boy. I may have him tatooed on my leg

@drew4126 Год назад

Sus

@fabizabo Год назад

Is there a mistake in your tier list? The F tier is labeled with "< 2:15:00", which would usually mean faster than 2:15. However, whooper is slower and on top in this tier?

@MelodicTurtleMetal Год назад

Right? Nobody else seems to be talking about it though

@Wassertotem Год назад

Was searching for a comment like that, so i dont have to make it myself xD

@ScottE-2 Год назад

Not really, the tiers are based on if they could get passed that time mark. Since Wooper landed at 2 hours and 16 minutes, he is on top as the rest unfortunately are much slower than what Whooper had performed. You can watch their respective runs on the channel with Natu and Slugma's being two of the more recent ones.

@Wassertotem Год назад

@@ScottE-2 y but the next Problem is your second last tier states >2:30 wich is slower then 2:30 and so there is no place for pkm between 2:15 and 2:30 😅 is u would laber it >2:15 everything would make mathematecly sense 🙊🙊

@ScottE-2 Год назад

@@Wassertotem As far as I understand it, those in the F tier couldn't make it below or less than 2 hours and 15 minutes hence forth the

@KainaX122 Год назад

And here’s your mandatory reminder that Wooper, despite having NO ARMS, can learn Ice Punch And with that, I fly away!

@thatponybro6940 Год назад

he can't keep getting away with this

@keysradiotheradio Год назад

And can learn mud slap despite not having any hands!

@twistedtachyon5877 Год назад

@@keysradiotheradiohis tail is nice and sturdy. That one works.

@veghesther3204 Год назад

But it can't learn the OTHER 2 Punch moves and Fire/Thunder Punch are more useful.

@keysradiotheradio Год назад

@@twistedtachyon5877 mud slap is a hand move, this is explained by falkner when pidgeotto uses it

@keonhazel2799 Год назад

Sludge bomb may have been a better option than ice punch for Maganium since it’s physical

@AztecCroc Год назад

I think the backtracking to get the Sludge Bomb TM would take more time than it would save.

@wideright7567 Год назад

I think only for meganium though because venusaur and vileplume take neutral from sludge bomb. ice punch is relearnable so it would be decent to just buy 2 ice punch tms and then reteach it after you finish rival fights

@keonhazel2799 Год назад

@@wideright7567 being physical means it works well with curse also plus the chance to poison

@Jordan-kk1rh Год назад

Good videos, keep up the outstanding work. Have a good one 👍

@UnknownVir Год назад

@@wideright7567All grass/poison types take more damage from a neutral earthquake so that doesn't matter. The only things that ice punch has a significant range is flying types that are 4x weak to ice (Dragonite, Jumpluff, Gligar)

@weakboi4581 Год назад

Scott, I love how you highlight your failures. We learn from failures and it shouldn't be met with shame but rather celebration! love your videos, keep working hard

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

I grew up playing StarCraft around a lot of other players (and my younger self) where the culture was to be like “what I’m doing is perfect, don’t tell me I’m wrong.” Eventually I learned that being humble tends to be the better path to walk.

@codyssmith73 Год назад

Woopy boy? At 2 AM? H Y P E. I assume this wasn’t supposed to go live now 😂 still pumped to see it early tho

@Gungho73 Год назад

My woopy boy! Such a cute little rascal of a pokemon. Honestly one of the few pokemon I immediately felt like could be a humans friend visually.

@Handsomeanthony68 Год назад

He might not have great stats but I always liked using it. I just think he’s neat.

@puff35252 Год назад

Had this thought when I saw the moveset: I'd love to see a gen 1 Wooper backport! Amnesia early on, starting with Water Gun for an easy Brock, gen 1 Blizzard, and even fairly early EQ Erika might be a road block, but that's it. Blizzard, Surf, Earthquake and Amnesia sounds like an unstoppable moveset, even with Wooper's awful stats

@LessonSmith Год назад

I would love to see it!

@daniel6678 Год назад

agreed!

@mellysandshrew Год назад

Wooper may have been a rough run, but at least you got to look at a Wooper while doing it

@josephgarcia8209 Год назад

Always loved the Wooper line. Excellent, complementary typing. Makes a great partner for Cyndaquil/Chikorita. STAB Earthquake, learned naturally through level up at a reasonable level of 31 or 35 if evolved. Only shared by the Geodude line until you reach the Kanto region. I agree with the others that Surf is a very useful option that you could try learning over Ice Punch / Return. Would help speed up the Rocket section and can be forgotten by the Move Deleter before you face Clair's dragons.

@DJarr216 Год назад

Scott, you got supereffective move tunnelvision. In several videos now I've seen you do this. It causes you to take risks that are unnecesairy and costs you deaths that are avoidable. The death against the trainer with the full bulbasaur line might have been preventable if you didn't tunnel in on ice punch. Ice punch only has marginally stronger power then earthquake but earthquake is going to do more damage because wooper has more attack then special attack and venusaur has less defense then special defense.

@bobjoe3492 15 дней назад

Remember kids, the super effective text isn't what kills the opponent, it's the raw numbers!!

@grundgutigertv6170 Год назад

Its so funny how Wooper learns Ice Punch without even having arms! 😂

@bluethemew9273 Год назад

Wooper is the fist

@kompressorkerstin3133 Год назад

Yoo nice gothic pp

@codyssmith73 Год назад

He punches with his tail.

@shadowtitanx3962 Год назад

Insert Kyurem Black roars.

@wideright7567 Год назад

wooper is the fist

@GhGh-gq8oo Год назад

I honestly think you should have used surf over headbutt. Ice punch hits everything immune to earthquake in this game and even though wooper has bad spec attack a base 95*1.5 move alone would make it more useful than headbutt

@vegetavsluigi Год назад

Unfortunately, Surf is simply not viable because there is no Move Deleter in GSC, meaning the final moveset of Return, Curse, Amnesia, and Rest is no longer possible.

@Speedrunner0218 Год назад

@@vegetavsluigithe move deleter is in blackthorn

@xtreme3353 Год назад

@@vegetavsluigiI know move deleter is in crystal not sure about gold/silver.. but he's playing crystal lucky enough.

@redwings13400 Год назад

That was my initial thought too, but when I watched the playthrough, I didn't really see any situations where surf would have actually been useful, and a few situations where it would have been bad. There are a few opposing gyarados in the playthrough that resist surf while being immune to earthquake, there are very few places where surf is actually better than earthquake, and it takes time to get rid of surf because you can only do it in blackthorn city. Maybe it would have helped for a couple of damage ranges against the rival's golbat, but aside from that, I'm not really sure what surf would have done. It might have helped slightly, but I'm gonna guess the decision between the two was pretty inconsequential at best. From what I saw here, surf is just... shockingly not that good for wooper.

@GhGh-gq8oo Год назад

my main gripe is his use of ice punch on dragonaire. scott seems to forget stuff like this. Soft sand earthquake is just straight up better against anything in the game except for 4x weak to ice mons@@redwings13400

@nightfan1983 Год назад

Yay, Wooper 😃 It might not be the strongest Pokemon (not even close), but it is such a cheerful and cute little dude you just can't help but love 🖤

@theSato Год назад

A fresh video to fall asleep to, thanks! I'll be listening to this one for the next few days every night, haha. Just short of my coveted 1 hour mark but close enough!

@janssensbaskoro Год назад

Smallant is gonna love this video, woopie booooooi 😂

@goldbanker2777 Год назад

Unknown would struggle against the metapod depending on its hidden power nature.

@grundgutigertv6170 Год назад

I bet Wooper would do awesome in Gen 1 due to amnesia and early earthquake!

@zenitfan4life Год назад

And his water type can bait electric attacks because Gen 1 ai it limited and would not see the secondary ground type.

@Shenaldrac Год назад

Such a solid performance, happy to see my woopie boy sweep through and land a spot in A tier. Don't wake me up I'm enjoying my dream.

@dantemalick2872 Год назад

Yay small ant will be happy Also you saying there isn't a grass type bayleef should say otherwise

@SnowyTotodile Год назад

(edit: Fixed a small thing) Morty sending out his last Haunter has nothing to do with you having Earthquake. He would do that even if your only move was Water Gun. Basically, the AI goes through its party members and checks: 1. Do I have 0 HP? If so, discourage using me and go to the next party member. 2. Do I have a supereffective move type? If so, heavily prioritize me. 3. Am I weak to either of your primary or secondary types? If so, deprioritize me. One note: #2 also only considers move typing, not if it is a damaging move. So if he had a Pokémon with Leech Seed, he'd prioritize it. If none of his Pokémon are deprioritized, he'll send out the first one with the highest priority. However, if all of of his Pokémon are deprioritized, he will send out a random Pokémon. In this case, he has no "supereffective" moves and all of his Pokémon have the same weak typing, meaning all of them are negative in priority, so that was the decision he took.

@ThatGuyNamedMatthew Год назад

I remember my first run of gen 2 as a child thinking wooper must be the best water type of all time because for reasons I didn't understand at the time electric moves wouldn't affect it

@n64_kfp Год назад

Woop woop! Wooper was every bit the struggle I expected 😅. One thing I do want to flag, though, is that I think the F tier needs to be updated so it says

@Byers2476. Год назад

Whoop whoop(er)

@Chronoflation Год назад

Oh, I started playing Crystal on my 3DS and got a Smoochum from my odd egg and it came with Dizzy Punch. I can confirm, when it has to rely on physical moves, it is not very fun 🤣 but it has been a clutch Pokemon for me so far. I'm about to face Chuck and it's kinda been my team's ace just cause I never really used a smoochum or Jinx as a main before and it seemed like a fun idea

@NaturesFlame Год назад

The interesting thing about the most recent generation, is that while the starter dynamic STARTS with them picking up your weakness, when they evolve their secondary typing is actually reversed. That way they teach you while you have an advantage, but by the end you have to work around a much more complex state. Dual status makes you both strong and weak against each other. For instance, if you pick up Sprigatito, a Grass type, your rival will pick up Quaxly, a Water type. You learn about types while you have the advantage. Later, when they evolve, the dynamic switches. You grass kitty evolves to Meowscarada, it picks up a Dark typing. When your rival's water duck evolves to Quaquaval, it picks up Fighting. All of a sudden your grass kitty is sweating, because that Fighting type really messes up Dark types. With Skeledirge being a Fire type that picks up a Ghost type, the reverse triangle is complete. Fire > Grass > Water Ghost < Dark < Fighting

@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Год назад

I love this interaction! Really cool starter typings!

@wesleyquere4979 Год назад

Except that the secondary typings are forming a line, and not a circle. Fire > grass > water > fire is much better than poor Skeledirge having to be scared of both starters because of the dark typing of Meowscarada and the water typing of Quaquaval.

@NaturesFlame Год назад

@@wesleyquere4979 Just like the Meowscarada has to worry about the fire moves and the fighting moves. Skeledirge isn't special in this interaction. I'm confused as to what you're even trying to say. Are you trying to say that the Water Duck is the winner because he doesn't have to worry about a weakness, only an immunity for his strongest STAB? Like sure, I get the argument that the duck wins slightly in that type matchup, but I mean, Skeledirge gets Torch Song. Its the main starter pick for speedruns for a reason, its the strongest by far in a vacuum.

@wesleyquere4979 Год назад

It was just an example. My issue with the new system isnt that it's bad and blabla it sucks, it's clever and interesting, but for me the simplicity of knowing you can't really rely on your first pokémon to beat the rival, therefore searching for a type that would counter it, was really charming. There's also what i see as fixing what isn't broken, as you said yourself they're giving you an easy time early on and a hard time later ,but the only thing that does is help you learn types after quite a few hours of gameplay, when you either know them well or have a phone in your pocket. The old system made it feel like the game challenged you head-on, now it's putting duct tape where it's not needed. Skeledirge is by far the strongest, and a good part of that is Torch Song, sure, but without the move, it'd be average even for speedruns. Maybe a bit better since he has a good typing i guess? But in SP now, since starters here are all able to do SE damage on each others with strong moves, the fastest will most likely one shot the others, and suddenly the weed cat is broken since it can one shot the other two, and the duck can avoid the lizard's one-shot from it's STAB. Thank god online play is so much more complex! TL;DR cool idea, correct execution, don't understand why they did this now when most kids have played at least one game before and most of the playerbase is at the very least over 20.(Sorry for the textbook. :c)@@NaturesFlame

@NaturesFlame 10 месяцев назад

@@wesleyquere4979 Sorry for the late reply, youtube decided to just stop notifying me of replies, but I really wanted to touch on your last point. >most kids have played at least one game before This is NOT how they design the games, and they NEVER have. They treat every single game as if it is your first Pokemon. Because for a lot of people, it always is. They aren't appealing to 20 year olds that battle in VGC and on Smogon. We're gonna buy the game or not. Advertising or appealing to us is functionally and financially pointless. They are, every 3 years, targeting a NEW batch of kids. Thats how you become the biggest franchise in the world (yes, biggest. Even The Mouse can't touch Pokemon). The old system was made in the era of arcades, of "nintendo hard". Kids were expected to "tough it out" with a game a lot more than they are now. This makes sense, because instead of having a dozen games to choose from at my local blockbuster, I now have hundreds of thousands of games on my steam. Games become easier for kids because if they're hard they won't "try harder", they'll go play Fortnite or something.

@DKforever24 Год назад

"Why is wooper slower than a slug?" Like, come on, have you seen how slow axolotls are?

@mewnani Год назад

And Wooper's only got two lil' legs to propel it forward on land! It's head is the same mass as the entire rest of its body and it just has those two lil' legs to walk on!

@kalasrey1670 Год назад

The Lance intro is my favorite too. That little detail of the cursor moving to the music is amazing

@ScottE-2 Год назад

HEY Been a while Kalas how you doing?

@Zelgius1 Год назад

5:04 Sunkern would Struggle in a solo run vs. Metapod because Absorb and/or Mega Drain is not an effective way to beat a Bug type Pokémon. ...esspecially against things like Kakuna or Scyther, that have a double resistance to Grass attacks.