Thanks for the reviews. Always good. I bought one using FSA money I had for the year. My x2 unit x2 a different USB charging cable with a plastic plug. I bought it for low HR zone training and running. Also the ability to connect to 3 devices, so can connect to Peloton, Cheetah Watch and Frontier app.
Awesome feedback Blaine! Hope you’re still enjoying it. I didn’t find the plug in my unit but it was a refurbished unit so maybe it’s missing. I also think it might have had water damage to it while swimming. 🤔
Love this! Jealous you got to test - that's awesome. And love the new touches on some of the video shots, with the stopwatch and the eucalyptus alongside. You are just the king of staging. Looking lean too! Keep up the good work
Thank you so much for all the kind words. Unfortunately the screen on the front stopped working just as I’m posting this video. I’ll have to reach out and ask them about the issue and then comment here about it. 😬
@@user-jh5fm7ci6o - Keep in mind that there are some extremely affordable HR straps that are very good if you're just looking for accurate HR data. This is old but still valid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tfLFBKBXX9A.html
I am a sucker for wearables that can monitor aspects of fitness and health. But based on your review, I agree that this is probably more interesting for someone trying to diagnose or monitor a condition. Love the unbiased review.
Fantastic video as always Matt! I like what they’re doing here! It’s a little insight into what technology Garmin/Coros/Polar/Suunto could potentially bring to their future chest straps 🔥
I was just cycling and went through a 30sec round of SVT, my heartrate hit 196. If I was wearing this it would have been valuable information. Still glad I caught it on my bike computer to show a DR. I may have to get one of these if it ever happens again.
Yeah, that's scary stuff. Your doctor might want you to wear something specific to see if they can catch it. I'm seeing this code still working as of today: BFCM23 (not an affiliate thing - I'm just trying to help if it's actually a product you might need).
I think this is going to be huge for those of us who love athletics and also have cardio issues. I have a tachycardia (fast heartrate) issue that I'm dealing with and having the recorded ecg is fantastic for my cardiologist. Also, when it goes very high (over 200 beats per minute) I will go into a strain pattern where my heart doesn't get enough oxygen. Yeah. Bad. That's why this thing can make a difference.
@@user-jh5fm7ci6o Yes. I did (in 2016), but the pathways can reform, which they have done over time. I asked the EP Cardio at the time about my higher heart rate and he was concerned that it would lead to irritability and increased risk of happening. My thought is that lower heart rate leads to decreased neuromuscular (nm) irritability, which allows for muscle to be built, which decreases inflammation and nm irritability. IF my little own theory is correct I might get better over time. If no, oops. Onto the next theory.
Nice video with lot of information. Just diagnosed with A-Fib by my PCP and I am a cyclist. May look into purchasing one after the visit to my cardiologist.
Sounds good. I’d be curious to hear what your doctor would think of something like this. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Thanks for the review. Not many out there that have much thought in them. I've been using for about 3 weeks and yes ok for running but even if it worked for swimming I don't think you can bring the HR data into a Garmin watch like you can with the Garmin straps that work for swimming. I think the breathing rate which it measures is a valuable metric especially for Zone 2 training. But a really high price to get this data. I had hoped the other data like HRV, Strain etc would be useful. Also you can't adjust the heart rates used in their Zones to match the Garmin or other Zone setups. Don't know where their Zones come from. Also found their recommendations for future exercise not very useful because you just can't wear the HR monitor all the time for all activities unlike say a Garmin watch. The Garmin or Apple watch is recording everything pretty much so is aware of all the sports activities with and without a HR strap.
Great feedback for people to understand before purchasing. Thanks so much for posting. I thought about the same thing every time I forgot to put this on for a workout. 🤷🏻♂️
Really good job. Good video. Enjoyed it. Even though you're not a doc, I appreciate your insights. For the most part they are not very far off (I'm a doc with a cardiac condition that may need to be monitored while playing sports). ]Coaches, I don't think, are going to need to to know the strain pattern or the ecg data. I spoke to the company today and they said that I can set up heartrate zones, which might be really great. I think that the swimming monitor might be better if they use something like a tri-top or almost like a snug-fitting bra. The US Men's National Soccer team uses something like this (it looks like a bra).
5:32 cardiac strain. Matt did your value change much with your different workouts? Many training videos stress that you must push your body to higher levels to force it to adapt (get faster ) but a valid strain measurement could tell you if you've gone too far and might be causing damage to your heart. As a very old dude it seems more likely overdoing could backfire. Does the device explain this strain measurement? I know i go way over the 220 minus age value for estimating max HR. I recall an Ironman where 2 died in the swim. There is a need for strain data.
This is measuring strain differently. It's the millivolt differential. I didn't see big jumps in my testing but I've also put my heart through way too much with Ironman racing and otherwise. There is for sure a need for strain data. It'd be even better if it worked in the water. That's where most die in Ironman racing. Each time I swam, this thing didn't do well at all. Almost no recognizable data to work with.
I would love to know how the sharing of the ECG with others works. How do they get the data? Do I share my access code of the files that are stored on their cloud service? This sharing is HUGE and if works well is a HUGE selling point. However the sharing must be easy and not cumbersome for the other user you are sharing with. Also the data must be secure, how well is this done. Could anyone get access to this data for any reason?
I didn't see an easy way to share or export the ECG data within the app. I used screen capture data to show this within this video. Data seems to be secure from what I can tell. Standard 32bit encryption for logging in and seeing your data. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Im currently struggling with Afib and looked at this device but was put off by the price, I use a polar h10 for my training and would probably only really use this throughout the night to record and hopefully catch said episodes, it just seems so expensive. Are there any costs other than the price of the device? Cheers for the review.
It's very useful for AFIB, I've been tracking my own with this device for about 1.5 years now. It's long runtime and ability to give you initial AI heart rhythm results are great, and then you can always export those results to a cardiologist as a PDF anytime thereafter. I don't find the live streaming part particularly useful, but the ability to go back and track how often and how long you had an episode for is truly useful. Night result tracking is definitely a use case. Expensive yes, but well suited to this purpose if you can swing it. They run a remote consulting service (result interpretation basically) that you can pay extra for, but there are no extra costs for the device itself once you own one. My only real complaint with them is that I've had some really bad firmware updates that have screwed up the system more than once (causing connectivity and stability issues). They are pretty good at trying to fix it thereafter, but still rather annoying as they don't seem to do enough testing beforehand!
Costs? RU-vidr Louis Rossman has plenty examples of products people buy even babycams that a year down the road turn into subscription services rending the device you own worthless if you don't subscribe $$. Seems like could happen here.
Yeah, you seem like the ideal user for something like this. It's actually 30% off currently with this discount code: FLYINGEARLY (I don't get any affiliate kickbacks)
I have had one for 3+ plus year and stopped using it after only a few months of use. It NEVER worked for swimming and (as you said, it is pretty much a runner only HRM). Why they claim it can be used for swimming is beyond me. This is either an overkill training device made for runners or a mediocre (at best) medical grade ECG because it only records 2 leads. As you pointed out, it is good for someone coming back to training with a heart condition or after a heart event but for others it would have limited additional benefit for the price. BTW, nice review.
Very interesting that you’ve tried this one. Thanks so for posting this. I haven’t met anyone else who has tried this one. I think it serves a purpose for a very small specific population. 🤷🏻♂️
@@user-jh5fm7ci6o Thanks for the reply Kim. I've never had an abnormal reading using my Apple Watch ECG check. I'm not an expert and defer to any cardiologist out there but maybe it's hard to get clear readings in active subjects? 🤷🏻♂
@@mlegrand Apple watch is way more accurate and you can trust the Apple Watch as It is FDA approved. I am sending that Fourth Frontier unit back. Been charging for 2 hours, I can not get the POS to turn on. Biggest joke. Stick to Apple.
That's a lot of money for a heart rate monitor... but if it works whose to say it's a bad idea. I did buy a Polar H10 to pair with my Apple Watch but I haven't been impressed with it. It would say my heart rate was 50+ bpm lower in the middle of a workout so I stopped using it since it wasn't helping with Zone 2 training
Good point. I wonder if it's more about bringing this ECG to your doctor. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I just got this unit and it's very hard to turn on, battery does not last and takes hours to charge. It is very difficult to start and use. While the app is pretty good and easy to use. The unit stopped recording my heart while I was just sitting. I was never able to get the unit to record my heart again. Tried turning it off and then back on. I am thinking maybe the battery died. It appears that the battery only lasts about 2 hours. This is not long enough for my workouts. I would not recommend this device as it has to many bugs / issues / battery issues and is hard to use. Very frustrating to use. I even had a video call with the unit and I was still unable to get this unit to work. I guess you have to be a computer geek in order to use this device.
I am a total computer geek and I still found it tricky. Let me know how the return process goes. Customer service is another aspect of all of these companies that I'd like to report on. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@mlegrand I was able to pair it to my Apple watch and Garmin bike computer and the software was easy to use once I got someone to answer some of my questions. However, using the device such as charging it, trying to turn it on is very frustrating. Having to press that cheap blue plastic button( have to press so hard) then hit connect. The unit sometimes would not wake up. You can not tell that it is charging or what the percent unless you dig somewhere in the app. Also, the battery does not last very long. Takes a long time to charge. There is no way to power down the device itself unless you pair it first to the phone (connect), then go to settings in the app, then go to about and then power off. How would anyone know to find that. I purchased the unit thru Amazon and had the device for 7 days. They have a 15 day return policy. I just returned it. I have been in contact the company and they are nice however, they where not able to solve my problems of getting it to work. They sent me a link to return the device however, I used the Amazon site to return it. PS, I wanted a device to generate EKG data while I exercise but this unit has to many issues and bugs and I was unable to get it to work reliably.
Doesn't connect to Zwift or to Whaoo headwind. Does support Ant + or anything that is not BLE. It's the most expensive ans the less compatible HR monitor on the market!
I don't know, I kind of see this HRM as an overly complicated solution to a problem that really doesn't exist. Maybe if the athlete who's using this has a heart problem to begin with and they want to monitor it better, there might be a use case for that. I'll stick to my Wahoo Tickr X, it works great
I've had my frontier x for years and it's been awesome. I bought it because my garmin chest strap was showing my heart rate as high as 240bpm in hard competitions. People thought my garmin strap was malfunctioning, and the monitors the doctors sent me home with didn't catch anything. With the frontier, I was able to wear it every day, in every race, and eventually I caught my arrhythmia. The ECG tracing it provided was good enough for my doctor to diagnose me and set me up for surgery. So yeah, this HRM is a simple, but pricey solution to a problem that does exist.
@@mlegrandBeen using it for a week, going for my first swim with it after typing this. I ran out of battery today so I went on a 12km very hilly bike ride without it. When I have used it it's been amazing. I also have a wellue 24 ecg which I wear a lot more because it generates a report of any issues with my heart, I recently had a stent put in my LAD (widow mater) which was 100% blocked for 9 months.. I'm being studied at Deakin Uni but I'm also collecting as much data as I can myself. the wellue has much more data but I use X2 for being safe when I do push myself. While at Deakin yesterday I was asked to do 1 rep max's and next week I'll be doing a Vo2max so having the X2 is very useful.
Maybe. If there was some sort of alert that you could notice while swimming (where a lot of triathletes die) Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍 BTW, great channel. Keep up the good work over there!
Typically, chest straps like this are extremely accurate and that was my experience here. The good news is that very very affordable heart rate straps are also accurate. It basically only needs to pick up that slight electrical signal from your chest to get the rate your heart is beating. I think this product only makes sense for someone wanting much more.
My swim data was horrific. I'm surprised because it's advertised as a swimming thing. Still it's an interesting product. Very fun to explore. Thanks for always commenting on these videos!
