Timing is essential for brawling, that's correct. Start to early,and you're going to be ripped apart by everyone and their mom's focus fire. Start too late,and theres not much left over, since everyone is behind an island,or fleeing. Somewhere in between, there's a sweet spot,when Enemy DD s entering caps, and Enemy team tries to push.. Sometimes the "psychological effect"of a full seccondary built German Bb,is enough to make em overthink their decision 😂
As a German BB main I notice too many other BBs sitting behind islands doing nothing. Don't understand the mindset of parking behind a mountain where you can't shoot anything your DD spots. Really frustrating when there are multiple ships parked behind the island for AA support but still not helping. Best way to use islands is just to break LOS right after firing and circling back over and over. Not trying to park on the beach.
It depends, if you have a solid team you can start off right behind your DD and get up in the action. Many players still hate to have secondaries raining on them and run and hide, so as long as you have support you can push early. No support and get focused on, you're dead. I like the main line German BBs for this reason, they're more tanky and if you push a bit to soon you can survive a bit longer with hope support follows your sacrifice.
Battleships peak at tier 8. Once you hit 9 and 10 theres so many auto loading smoke and hill hiders that your just an xp and damage pinata feeding everyone else. Hence why theres such a passive long range meta, approaching anywhere near the halfway line at top tier just gets you perma spotted and burned/torped down and you cant do anything about it.
Schlieffen doesn't require luck truth be told the pruessen requires luck and in sheer amounts and actually schleiffen is a busted ship it can adapt well in every game mode as long as your not like a complete dimwit the average potato can perform well off in the Schlieffen
I really think they shout tweak the American BB lines, now what I mean by that is make the spilt come off of the New Mex. Colorado being the first ship in the Fattleships, add a proto NC 3x3 14" guns for the fast BB line, and the Avation BB line coming off of the NC line.
They need to nerf CVs to make brawling and more aggressive play viable again. Reduce the damage to ships that get attacked over and over again by the CV (like they are testing) and ships spotted by CVs should only be visible on the mini map.
Being from Canada I also immediately went for British BBs despite wanting to brawl. I’ve learned to just be content with renown as she’s as close as you’ll get in a tier where you won’t be punished very hard for misplays
@@davidlennyman444 I'd never say the British Battlecruisers are good brawlers, BUT - They do have those disgusting little gyroscoping torpedoes that do very well in close encounters. Combined with their ridiculous damage and you got yourself a little pocket dev strike.
Well play them mid to long range and they do pretty well they r not made to brawl but the battlecruisers do have underwater nukes and underwater citadel at toptier
I'm a bit confused. After not playing for many years, i went down the russian bb line. I'm up to the vladivostok and I kinda agree with survivability- however dispersion has been horrendous right down the entire line for me. Its supposed to be better at short range, but even at 8-10 km at slow or stationary targets most shells miss. Ive tried a main battery build and a secondary build but the dispersion is so bad to begin with the small gains arent worth it. Were you just referencing the Kremlin? because i'm not seeing it.
you have to talk about low tier ships more. i'm looking at the best to START not tier X. Tier 1-5 is critical to know. Show more gameplay of lower tier ships please.
I think the Yamato has the worst Play style in the game currently. 90% of them sit at max range and never leave their spawn points. I personally love to brawl even with Montana, great video
1:12 There is a red DD last spotted at G1 so I don't know why you have not turned back before you eat two torps. Doesn't matter what BB you are in if you don't have better situational awareness.
So Brawling is really easy. If a match takes around 30mins than you go brawling around 10min mark. Snipe away and cry about it. Sniping ships i would use. Is Yamato and Montana. They are exellent for that. Yamato is a bit meh in that regard... Yamato does best being in middle and making things go away. However that does mean you die very very quickly and things usially stays alive. So she is best used with a few brawlers for supporting fire when those brawlings ships are charging! Montana yeah that is a nasty ship however the kaliber of its guns does mean you have to be very good at shooting at stuff. Especially at loong ranges! Now a middle battle ship like Mid range... those are just being killed really quickly i am very sorry. But you do not whant a kremlin these days. TO BIG CAN BEE SEEN FROM ORBIT will die horribly. Unless ofc you can use it... Wich means you are a farming target prio nr1 for the enemy cause of the health pool... Brawling ships are nasty in cloose range.. ofc look at the map when playing. To know when to go in is to basickly win the game. Problem is you are going to be alone alot! So best thing you can do is actually support your people with loong range and than mid range and than TOTALLY GO IN AND SCREAM BANZAAAI! or whatever. So this is order. Hang back-go middle-go into their face and make them regret their life and question their life choises. ohh with brawlers use HE at loong range and at mid range shift to ap. At brawling range USE AP!!!
Hate battleships and game "random" and rigging for AI controlled ships. Played several Operations in Bismarck / Scharnhorst constantly wiped out by cruisers and DDs that were laughing in the middle of my splashes while constantly eating my HPs. Made hit for 2000 (and constant miss, overpenetration, ricochet) and played by 3000+. Any DD can charge you, run to 3000m from you and shotgun you with torps while you cannot hit him as every f*** shot just hits water. Turrets turn forever. When shooting even at Tier4 BBs (form Tier7/8 !!!) - ricochet, overpenetration, few HP down. Return salvo regardless the angle ate thousands of my HPs. Again, again and again. Any stupid cruiser can run circles around you and keep spamming you with HEs. Did it so many times. Took Tier6 Dorsetshire to same matchmaking and effortlessly made more damage, just spamming HEs
I hate battleships, they are big, slow, hard to turn and not really usefull in naval combat. Plus you are asking for a like and subscribe without showing any content, the ultimate sin of any youtuber!
Video summary Secondary-battery brawlers: Preussen line Schlieffen line Kremlin line Mid-range battleship: Montana line Vermont line Louisiana line Conqueror line St Vincent line Colombo line (a terrible line to grind) Republique line Sniper battleships: Yamato line (a decent grind) Bungo line
Yamato is best used at mid range... Vermont is very very scary but to slow... i would use it for sniping in the opening stages... than go middle... else skip it. Conqueror line can actually brawl and be a good sniper... (terrible grind though) So my list would look like this. skip the Krimlin useless junk anyways. Preussen and Schlieffen get them. Mid range. Yamato St Vincent COlombo really french? ahh fine whatever (insert stupid french ship here) SNipers Montana (best ship for this kinda thing if you can aim) Bungo.
I didn't mind playing the Colorado that much when I got it, but what I did mind was how *much* you have to play the Colorado. It's the only one where you have to grind a lot for not just one, but two extra battleship lines.
@@R4ZORLIGHT I'd prefer if they'd shift the hybrids to another ship. It's one thing to grind the over 100K for the main line, and then again for the second line, but then you have to do it all over again for the third line? I have more than enough free XP to jump the line, but then again, I haven't heard much good from other players about the hybrids.
@@broccanmacronain457 I rather like it myself. As I said, the only thing that irritates me is that when (or if) you try to grind the other tech lines in the American BB's, you have to start back at 0 with it for the next line...twice.
I always had a bone to pick with how the British battleships were portrayed in the game. The whole Royal Navy doctrine was to have heavier armour to get in close to the enemy, sacrificing speed (while in game they get smashed for showing even a little bit of ankle). That's why they are generally slower than other contemporary ships like the Richelieu, Littorio, Iowa, etc. Their AP in real life was actually really good compared to the pathetic shells we see in game (in relation to pen).
@@st3gosaurus Yeah, the KGVs had a 15 inch belt at the waterline. The only belt in WW2 that was thicker than that was Yamato's 16 inch belt yet in WOWS the KGV is a pancake.
i have NO idea where you get the idea that the italian BB line is a terrible line to grind, i LOVED every single one of them and enjoyed every second of going up that line, and no im not being a troll or anything when saying this, i actually love that line.
Lovely video. Just started couple of days ago. Is there any complete real money shop guide explained what is worth to buy, what to wait for discounts etc. Thank you.
i can brawl with all nations bb in game some better then others but they can all brawl if u pay attention to where other ships are and your dd spot so u have a good idea where things are and use islands as cover even a lower tier bb can make a bigger one cry for mommy if u can get him looking the wrong way
I accidentally stumbled into the British Battlecruiser line. I took a very long hiatus from the game and got the Tiger for free as a "Welcome Back" present. Decided to try it before I sold it and loved it. I never would have given it a shot otherwise (gave up on the main British line at the Orion) but I'm so glad they prompted me to try it.
The Vermont is not as forgiving as a GK. Many times been hit for 50k on my slow ass Vermont never in my life has Gk been hit that hard and it much harder to play. You can’t just in in secondary range and do good damage. You need to be aware of the map and just like the GK soon as you fire you are the target. Unlike the GK though the Vermont can’t fight back as fast and discourage the advance. Also for some reason the Vermont shells love to shatter in places where my GK can pen.
I've been playing since beta and only recently have I finished the Montana and Yamato lines. I was dreading Izumo, but I really enjoyed grinding it. I was still glad to finally get the Yamato though. And while I do have Satsuma, I think I enjoy Yamato more.
Great overall Battleship review! My personal favorites: USN Primary BB line (typical armored, decent speed, good guns), IJN Primary BB line (Solid speed, ok armor, longer range play style, kiting ships), RN Secondary Line (torps and guns, weaker armor, fast, medium range), German Secondary Line (brawl, fast ships, weaker armor, and torps)
I finished grinding the British lines a little while ago, and the one thing that I kept thinking was that the secondary line was actually better overall than the main line. Regarding the torps, once in a while you get something with them, but since you have to be pretty much broadside in some tiers or only have one in the upper, I often felt like it fell into the "why did you bother?" category. I don't know about the upper tiers of IJN ships (I haven't ground that far up), but at least through tier 7, they're my least favorite line.
@@Norbrookc With IJN main line, until tier 9-10, you want to always be moving, so you may miss more shots. You want to kite tier 7 and lower ships, try to get the rear turrets involved even at the expense of the front turrets. Sneak in those broadsides off and then cut the rudder over hard; while at 15+ km away from the main battle. Yes you tend to miss a bit more, but the guns are more long range and quicker to fire to cover up the dispersion issues.
Yes they r pretty tanky to the point that they can take some pretty heavy hits but u have ti play them at mid to short ranges because of their main guns formula cause it gets better as the range decreases and gets worse as it increases and past 14-15 km they have German BB dispersion which means all shells land at the four corners of the map...so basically Soviet ones r tailor made for mid to short range fights so if u like that gameplay then they r pretty nice to play...in ranked and now mode shuffle of course but in randoms they r well ok
I've noticed you favor long-range BBs like Yamato, and you even once recommended a main battery build for Preussen. I personally can't hit/pen well enough at range, esp with pen RNG being what it is. The only BBs I have consistent success with are the secondary ships. Although they're also the only ones I play a lot.
Id play this game more if I had people to play with but I enjoy the info, I love my Kremlin even if it feels a bit power crept at times and I enjoy the Conq cause hehe I burn u. Working down German BC line. After than might try one of the snipey lines if i ever get there.
First thing you have to learn as a new player playing BB's is that your armour and angle means squat in this game. Everyone just fires and spams HE in this game and HE completely bypasses any armour regardless of thickness or angle. Everyone just spams it for 20 minutes straight, even bb's, usually from inside smoke or behind an island and starts endless fires. He spam, torp spam, homing torp spam or shotgun torp spam from invisible subs and of cause the unending waves of planes from cv's that pump them out like factories which you can do absolutely nothing against. Good luck new players.
Maybe try moving instead of sitting at the end of the map and doing nothing?? It would be way easier to dodge planes and torps this way. And if you support your cruisers, they could actually do their job and kill enemy DDs and light cruisers. Oh and if you actually stay near your cruisers, their AA could protect you as well :)
I perfer the German Battlecruisers rather than the German Battleship main line. Even though Preussen has bigger guns and a bigger HP pool, Schlieffen has crazy secondaries and easier to manouver, and Schlieffen can be an absolute monster if you have Lutjens.
How about you simply shouldnt be playing Battleships in 2024? HE spamming is the only one of the 3 metas BBs can do and their either bad at it, or a cancer to the game and shouldnt be advised at all, so you might as well play a Cruiser
Do a video on the tiny quirks of each line and one on each map and the best way to play them. The constant review rehashes are getting old (been with you since
5:11 why does the preussen here get the proper paint job when the Bismarck doesn't have his accurate paint job (the paint was also on the superstructure not only the hull)
Every time I play my Alsace I'm surprised just how much damage these 15 inch guns do over the course of a match. This boat slaps. At first I thought: "looks like an Iowa with worse guns" but it feels completely different. Its big downside is the pathetic French armor scheme. This boat takes so much damage from HE spam and also from normal AP penetrations. Can't really do any tanking.
On console my favorite three cruisers are Exeter, Belfast, and Plymouth. Use like battleships but I find my self enjoying cruisers more. If I was pick three battleships it would be Alabama, Florida, and Texas.
