I think They start as Child grom k15 or something like that then k60 k90 k120 k130 and for me HS140 Wisla looks so big and I was so scared by Just looking at it... Cant imagine what it feels like when you are going down 100km/h from 200 metres.
@@CaptainEarls Absolutely! Not only him though, but his entire (first) generation, Funaki, Okabe, Harada. And jumpers like Daiki Ito and Kobayashi with strong team backing show that the national team is energetic and has reliably been competing with the absolute best throughout years and years of changing regulations.
GOLDBERGER the first man on the planet who flew 200m Stefan KRAFT the first man on the planet who flew 253.5m. Austria is Skination number 1 forever! 🇦🇹❄️
Nieminen was the first man over 200m officially. Besides, Norway has been the best nation overall in pretty much every winter Olympics since 1992. Austrians are good, but not the best.
My guy can get up straight away from falling after a 250m jump but if neymar trips over his boot laces he’s rolling around on the floor for 10 mins and needs medical attention😌😂
Theatrical acting forces the referee to punish the fouling player after a few fouls instead of acting all tough and making the referee think the impact wasn't as hard. Football is played like this, every uses his best abilities to get an advantage over the opposing teams. And if you mention neymar then mention robben, di Maria, Sergio Busquets and Ronaldo who are proven to be the top 4 divers. Do I like it? Fuck no it's ruins the Fairplay aspect of the game but singling out neymar is just unfair. And why do you compare this to neymar anyway? The athlete's don't win anything from laying on the floor, they HAVE to get up. Neymar can win time, a yellow card and a few moments of regeneration for his teammates
LOL ! Or just shorten ramp ! There's nothing in the distance - its technique that counts! They dont jump when the wind in their face is higher than something. That way they can finish in the public space.. !
@@cocosloan3748 shortening the ramp would make it impossible to compare distances across time though. Extending the landing would just add more safety. Presumably shortening the ramp is easier though.
@@cjeam9199 a longer landing also makes old distances irrelevant. They are not landing because they have to they could go much farther with the exact same setup. They need to land there for a clean and safe landing, its who has the guts to get closer to the edge of where you can't land anymore.
@@cjeam9199 because you are suggesting changing things so they can't go as far... therefor all previous records don't matter The longest jump isnt all that matter. Its the longest jump with the cleanest landing.
I know telemark is a thing but watching Dimitri flying that far away at this age is the most impressive thing for me and should be rewarded no matter what. salute!
You need perfect conditions to beat WR in these hills. If you go too high at the start then your chances are gone. The only possibility is to have a strong head wind at the end
@@jaclow1422 you can always push for a half meter or a meter. But its getting harder and harder. Also in vikersund they change a hill a bit every some years.
Those hills are so fucking big :D I live in Lahti and we have a K116 hill, those are atleast twice the size.. takes a lot of guts to jump from those monsters.
@ i am austrian. What i wanted to say is that “normal“ hills are almost as big as copper peak, the biggest hills are around 250 m. So called ski-flying hills
The fact that Kraft held it together by a mere centimetre or so is absolutely astounding. This must come down to conditioning, he had the power to hold it, other's didn't. I wonder what does this compare to in terms of landing speed and acceleration when they hit the ground. From how high one would have to jump (vertical) to recreate similar forces?
@@Formula7Driver I disagree, at that speed we'd see snow react to the slightest touch, and we didn't. Also his reaction shows absolute conviction and joy that he held it together. He never touched the ground.
@@GoatMee how did Maradona react when he scored that famous goal named "Hand of God"? That doesn't mean anything. I watched the video frame by frame and to me, by using comma and dot keys while the video is paused, and it looks that he touched it, because when he's getting up, you can clearly see the gap between him and the snow
@@Formula7Driver Yes, and when you don't see the gap, you see his shadow. It's about millimetres, but nothing shows me he touched it. If he had, we'd see some pull on the suit from the friction with the snow, some reaction from the material, either the suit or the snow, but there's nothing there.
Thats not the point. Most of them could jump much farther if they wanted to, they could follow that downslope as long as it continues. They are trying to land as far as they can and still get a clean landing. They are judged on form to not just distance
@@RubSomefastOnIt Thats not even the point, its about the increasing impact strenght and chance of injury. If the flat would take longer to develop at least, they wouldnt land with such a hard impact.
@@FantasKanal extending the slope would allow them to jump further... you are not understanding, the flat is the limit on the jump they can all jump farther than the flat is now, probably much further in good conditions. if you want to change the jumps in any way you have to create a new event and all the records are completely separate. Its who can get closest to the flat with a clean landing, they are choosing when to land. what you are saying is like trying to make a 100m race and 200m race the same thing.
@@RubSomefastOnIt THATS NOT THE PROBLEM, the problem is that they land to far into the flat. If they ease the gradient more slowly they would jump further, yes, but the impact still wouldnt be as hard, cause its closer to their trajectory.
pushing the skijumping worldrecord is schadenfryd. They are alrdy landing on the bottom. They need a bigger slope or they have to lock the speed at a certain lvl. they can just keep increasing the speed and wait for someone to crash on the bottom.
I think that these guys should have a fin on their helmet which I think might help with stability, or maybe some kind of reinforced fabric fins on their boots which might help them steer and stuff
its a lame sport anyways. Its like base jumping. Probably fun if you invest your time/energe, but not rly fun to watch. Its like basball, american football, basketball. not very fun to watch. Its outdated, we have television now and computergames pluss internett.@@Defender78
@@toroddlnning6806for me it's the most interesting sport to watch, because I've always dreamt of Flying and It takes huge cojones to just sit on the bench 200 m above the ground. And i watch football, volleyball and tennis, still i love ski jumping most, It gets even better when Poles whin, or when Adam Małysz was unbeatable. But i guess you just a teenager or an old geezer
how old are your? sports are not fun to watch, the originated from a time b4 television and internet. sports like skijumping and fotball is boring to watch, but ok to do if you want to exercice. sports like fotball and skijumping is objectivly speaking boring to watch, especially if you compare it to modern esport competitions etc. Im pirtty sure most ppl watching fotball is like sheeps who does not make up their own opinion, it goes very slowly and not much is happening during 90min. im guessing your old or a sheep. pluss all sports are rigged, like jewish rigged, even esports, so it doesnt rly matter. all sports should be without money otherwise its just cheating. @@bartoszpiacko9319
@@ericb.3570 Is this for safety reasons or to keep the hill "official" by competition standards? Either way, it's alot of compression to absorb if you fly into/land on the flat...😟
Redbull can’t do it. Only two people in this world have the knowledge to build those slopes, Janez Gorišek and his son. They’ve build all 4 ski flying hills in the world. And out of those 4, only Planica can be upgraded, others are already on their limits. And you can’t build those hills just anywhere, you have to take in account natural conditions, mainly windflows. Look at it this way…Planica, Vikersund, Kulm and Oberstdorf are all almost the same size (with Planica and Vikersund being exactly the same size), but most jumps over 240m happened in Planica (73 jumps), 33 in Vikersund, 4 in Kulm and just 1 flight over 240m in Oberstdorf. That tells a lot about importance of good conditions.
yes, that's a little ignorance from British and Americans - if they see "c" they pronounce it as "k" - it does not matter what is the origin language of the word
It depends on the slope of the hill at the landing point. If it is e.g. 10° steep, most of the force will still be directed forwards and not onto the ground.
The Planica ski flying hill must be tough to judge - Bartol looked like he jumped too high and held this high position all the way to the end, resulting in a terrifying landing. Compare these jumps to Vikersund Raw Air where jumpers look like they are not pushing for height initially, but instead projecting low and forward to get those crazy-long flights. Too cool!
Love watching this sport. It's absolutely thrilling to think about flying like this... but watching others actually do it! Curios though, are there now official "tracks" going down the ramp? They look pre-defined and set, also their suits look like they have extra material between the legs and armpits to create a kind of "wingsuit" effect. Does this make jumpers of the 80s and 90s a totally different sport?
Many jump hills like Vikersund in Norway now feature ceramic-based in run tracks that offer higher, more consistent takeoff speed. I believe Planica still relies on natural snow inrun track that may be salted to maintain consistent “hardness” in variable weather. The suits are specially fabricated for each jumper of a special light yet insulating material. The amount of excess material is tightly controlled/regulated in order to more closely eliminate unfair advantage of keeping the jumpers’ flight aloft.
@@stuartlichty4250 That makes a lot of sense... otherwise we'd be seeing full on wing suits!.... which now in thought, would be a pretty freaking awesome competition as well.
@@JerryNordstrom in the 80s and 90s they didn't even jump with a V-style (having the skis out wide in the air). so they didnt really fly like they do now. they just jumped as hard as they could and fell down throughout the jump until they landed. which means they jumped way higher and way more dangerous than they do now. but they never jumped over 200 meters
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They need to make the slopes +20 meters longer or this sport will die, people ain’t gonna push anything past 255 unless they do this because it’s just way to dangerous
@@ormhaxan because eventually everyone will be able to make it to the bottom of the landing, but it being towards the end and flat ground, people aren't going to try and go further cause they'll get seriously injured. So everyone will just be getting the same score, never pushing for more, not very exciting to watch.
@@ormhaxan it is very important in any sport, particularly Olympic sports that the human race can achieve more in that particular discipline. Higher faster stronger. In this sport it's getting to or has already got to the point where this is no longer possible. This is why the parameters of what is achievable need to be changed.
They've got to stop being cheap and start making longer outruns. This generation of kids are making it to the bottom of the hill and not doing anything about it could be a fatality or permanent maiming.
Have to agree with you… 1st visit to Vikersund was a month ago. Camped out with RV there and your point was what we figured as well… scary short outrun..
If one had the desire, mountain space and money, the record could be almost unlimited. Once the jumper has stabilized you build the slope to match the decent rate/height loss and could "fall/fly" as long as wanted. A Everest jump could be miles.
And the point is?... In the 70s the largest hills allowed records of up to 150m-160m, the ones you see today are... Those same hills, just expanded. In due time hills will probably still continue to grow in hill size, but again, it's not too common to see jumps like this since you realistically have like 3-4 hills this size, so it's quite enjoying to see someone surf the air like this
What is a sport today, was an ordinary necessity in Norway way back when. Living in a small house on a farm clinging to the walls of a fjord, this was the *only* way a man could get a goddamn break from the old cow *and* old lady, *OK!?* My grandpa would *laugh* at these "athletes", he wouldn't land until he reached the next parish!
For Me try to jump from any of this jumping hills make You a hero...but that's record's...this guys are insane! They flying and flying, bad move take them to dead...amazing!
