www.Condorproductions.com www.aero-works.net Aeroworks only P51 working 4 blade Mustang with DA 85. Static thrust is max RPM of 5500 and 37 lbs. Please give us your comments.
Thanks Wayne, your prop setup is amazing. We couldn't have done this without your help and support. The sound she makes is just one of a kind. I will be back for more, you can count on it.
CONGRATULATIONS!!! That huge propeller is the heart and soul of the Mustang and no amount of detailing or workmanship on the rest of the model can make up for its absence.
Aero-work stuck it to all it's customers by going out without telling anyone. To bad they went out of business this would have been a sweet plane and DA engines are what I use only .
Hey thanks for buying and building this model. The color scheme is nice and the flite metal looks great. The four blade looks and sounds fantastic. I have a 1/5 pica p51 that I've not been willing to put in the air because I've spent 1300 hours building it. It's nice to see your airplane fly. Thanks again for all the time, trouble and expense that was necessary to get this fabulous aircraft airborne. Congratulations!
The point i'm trying to make is...just as a person works hard to build a scratch built plane himself, he works hard to make the machines to build it for him...and welcome ARF'S! It's a lot harder to build a machine to build ARF'S than it is to build a scatch built plane that's for sure. But people leave that bit out of the argument. It's all part of the process, and we should be thankful that we have this technology that makes the modelling world more efficient.
mr. fred. loved the video. learned a few things. I'm in a learning phase of RC modeling. just trying to put together epo foam P51. my first project. made some mistakes but caught them and trying to fix and improve the cut design. Hope it I wish it works. Where we are from we respect our elders and always seek advice. though I'm 34 but you learn at each phase. Thank you for your beautiful illustration.
Hey there Billy. Thats funny, I started building the Byron 51 when Aeroworks came out with this plane. Your Byron Jet was off the hook bro. That was an amazing build. I was like you when I heard your video of that monster electric fan. Da SOUND Da Sound
Woohoo! The prop is as big as some of the small scale models! And although the sound is spectacular, some of my local clubs here in the UK would not be able to allow it. Tis a beauty though! Liked and faved.
Fred, this is Jim my j in Montgomery Alabama just got to say even tho I'm into Large Helicopters That is one BADASS Looking Plane ,wish I was richer .ha ha that's a joke ,but for real it is a Fantastic looking plane You'll keep up the Great Work your doing cause you HAVE MY UNDEVIDED ATTENTION. Thanks Again for your Great Products jjm in Montgomery Alabama Sent
We decided to fly this 50cc Mustang on a 26X12 two blade prop on the DA 85. Its so fast it scares us. We plan on checking it with a radar gun next weekend. I have flown lots of fast planes and have a good idea as to speed in the air and I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see this well over 150 MPH
This is a beautiful model guys job well done!! I just can't believe there's people out there that can be so negative about something you worked so hard to achieve. When you build something you need tools...right? Well just as you would use simple hand tools to build a scratch built model, you build tools that go one step further and build the plane for you!! That's how REAL planes are built at Boeing, Airbus etc. And they're better aircraft for it. Everything exact. Models are no different.
First of all, that's *very* cool, congratulations on your accomplishments. Second, while a pre-fab ARF model definitely can't compete with with scratch-building as a model engineering project, some of them are still really nice models, they fill a different niche. For starters, they're great for people who are focused more on the power system than the airframe--I've always wanted to try building a steam engine to power an RC model, and I'd probably use an ARF.
Hello Fred ! This is an incredible airplane and you fly it well. Any one of us at a mature stage in the hobby have built from scratch back when, very few of us have the time to do so now. AeroWorks builds airframes that are as perfect as one can get and anyone that thinks an ARF is just "writing a check" is an idiot. Your build, engineering, fit, finish, performance and piloting are second to none !!! ( by the way, unclesara has just 1 video posted of the view FROM a full size homebuilt ARF !)
I'm not a model maker. I wish I was. I am however a old retired pilot who takes a big interest in scale models. Realism is everything in my view. Bravo for going to a 4 bladed prop. The thing is, having achieved that, why spoil it with that engine? I repeat, I'm not a model maker but would it not have been possible to fit a Kolm engine, say 3 or 4 cylinder. The aircraft would then look and sound like the real McCoy.
I don't think Kolm was even around back in 2010 7+ years ago I could be wrong this is very old video like I posted above the company is out of business.
@rickashaybingbing The fiberglass was used so we could use apply flite metal on the aircraft. You need a hard surface to burnish the metal on to the surface. The 4 blade was used because we wanted it to look and fly like the real P-51.
This is a one of a kind build. You can by the ARF kit but it doesn't like this one. ARFs have been around for over 20 years. You still have your master builders out there. ARFs have brought on a huge amount of people that most likely don't have the time or skill set to enter the hobby any other way. More people in the hobby means more technology to play. This build would cost over 10,000 to replicate and without the skills to fly it would become a 10,000 paper weight or a debris field.
Wow spyplane5559, I can't believe all of the people hating on this bird because it was an ARF. Who the hell cares! The time you had to put in it to customize all that was done seems to be what people do not understand. I have been flying for 24 years and went from bare bone kits to arfs and I am still proud of all of my Warbirds. To the point, great job! great flight and info. She is a show stopper for sure. Oh and sounds truly awesome. Keep the shiny side up, and keep on flying.
Amazing final product with this beautiful plane. Shows an all out devotion to perfection. What was the pitch you finally settled on for the props and how did you manage the problem with severe torque generated with a 4 blade propeller in a plane this light. Strykkermd
The landing I made in the video was twice as long as needed. It was a safe landing on a new aircraft. It will land about half the distance with no problem. I was just trying to be careful and had a lot of runway to use at my discretion. I have landed the mustang on fields of 400 ft with plenty to spare.
Fantastic. Now THAT looks real scale! Did you use a gear reduction unit? Please supply the speeds with the 26x12 two blade and the XXxXX four blade prop. What was the dimensions of the four blade prop used. Where did you get the four bladed prop from?
I myself also build and fly rc airplanes and i know what it takes to build and put one together. I am not talkin anout 199$ toys my love is large scale crafts and gasoline engines. Warbirds and 3d is my love. Your mustang is a phenomenal work of art. What the moron said about arfs is uneducated. I have a carf edge540 2.3 on a 120 cc dle and i went beyond the instructions adding extra detail. Its hours of tedious work as you know. Once again your mustang is a masterpiece and beautiful. GOOD JOB
I do agree with some of the comments on the muffler but no other opportunity was available. This is an 86 inch wingspan Mustang so we were limited on options. To get it to fly on a 4 blade we had to use the DA 85. Since the plane was built as a 50cc class bird the 85 was a tough fit. There isn't any room for scale exhaust inside the cowl and there isn't any other exhaust options for this build. Yeah, I hate the muffler sticking out as well but it is what it is. The point of the project was to see if we could get it to fly on a 4 blade and a 50cc engine doesn't have the rpm range or torque to produce the amount of thrust needed for a scale prop on a plane this size. You can't turn the 4 blade over 6100 RPM in flight because of cavitation and the 50cc engines would overheat trying to replicate the lower RPM. I would rather see the large 4 blade prop (with the ugly muffler) than a 2 blade mustang but thats just my opinion. This build is around $5000. If you want to go to the next level and put in a 3 cyl inline and a reduction drive with a 4 blade you would be looking at a 100 in wingspan and a total build price around $12,000. Hopefully one day we will have an engine setup for the 86 inch wingspan warbirds that will produce the needed torque and a better muffler (or hidden) system.
Fred Culbertson all that effort, yet when the prop is spinning, you can't tell if it's 2 ballades or ten. the muffler shows at all rpm ranges. seems like backwards thinking to me?
so, how fast did the radar say? average speed on my doppler program shows it maybe 100mph, thats pretty slow, but looks about right watching it on the video.
Hey Billy David here,,did you make a video of the remake or redo of this P52 Mustang? If not I wish you had!!! I would like to watch that step by step.Let us know if we can get a look..Thanks and great job.
I like what you have done. My question to you would be landing speeds. In the video you looked like you came "over the fence" a little hot to me and you definitely went long on the landing/rollout...if one was to have a nice grass runway in the 1200' range like you have in the video I would not have a concern, but how tough is she going to be getting her into 800 feet paved with no over-runs?
I thought he said at the 6.05 mark that it's NOT gunna be as fast as the fastest one out there... but I tell ya what.. it's the coolest... maybe I wasn't listening... :-)
Thanks for the comment Glen. My intention was to concede that the 4 blade version I built isn't going to be as fast as a two blade version but as a 4 blade it is more realistic.
Hey Fred, juet curious...whats the advantage of mounting the engine directly to the firewall vs using the motor standoffs? Also I have the solo 4 blade 24 inch prop for this plane. I read ur article regarding pitch and prop choice but can I use this prop on this engine and just dial down the amount of pitch. .say around 8 instead of 10. Any issues u see with this setup. Thanks!
Hey nice Bird. I was wondering why you put the Stars and Bars on the right wing (top)? T.O. 07-1-1, dated 25 April 1944 states in part : Wing insignia. - "The insignia specified herein will be placed on the top surface of the left wing and on the lower surface of the right wing with the center of the insignia inboard from each wingtip one-third of the distance from the wingtip to the fuselage, and the blue border tangent to ( touching ) the aileron cutout.
@spyplane5559 Why use a 4 blade and not just a 2 blade? Does one need more thrust because of the fiberglass? Also, why fiberglass the plane and not just fly the plane the way it comes from aeroworks?
Very interesting. I built a 1/5th scale WW11 Hawker Hurricane in 2002 and finished it in late 2003. The transmitter and receiver are from Futaba ( Field Force 8 ) and the servos are all Futaba 3001`s . My very first R/C model was the old Precedent Hi Boy , and the transmitter /receiver was a Hitech something or other. Biggest waste of money and incredibly unreliable, that it caused me to lose two aircraft . The radio or the receiver failed on more occasions then I care to remember. Went out and bought the latest state of the art Futaba Field Force Eight and never looked back. I guess Hitec have now got their act together and are making some good products, and ironed out the bugs that plagued the early models.
im sorry bout the fo i just don't like the rude comments i go on u tube to learn bout this stuff and found some very entertaining vid then below r an sload of rude comments shooting that person down i do plan to mabe build something from scratch not every one has the time however i do have a gillows b 17 kit older one and an older great planes piper cub i plan to rebuild i respect you for your handbuilt but please keep your rude comments to yourself thank you
...Also, they're great for I.C. engine builders to try out their creations. ARFs also provide a platform for playing with various components you may already have lying around, and just want to put to use without building the airframe. You may have built your own full-scale airplane (awesome!), but did you build the engine yourself entirely from scratch? Probably not. At $2000 a pop, these are not really _that_ disposable! :) Getting an ARF in the air isn't too time-consuming, that's the idea.
I really have no idea as the solo prop doesn't give you that information on the dial. To make it finally work we continued to add pitch until the engine would load to 5500 RPM static. My guess would be around 14 degrees but thats just a guess.
Most full-sized pilots, including the *best* ones (astronauts!) do not build their own aircraft. Would you hold that against them? I'm all in favor of scratch building and admire the skill & envy the motivation it takes, but if all you want is to enjoy flying a model, ARFs are a great way to do it without spending a huge amount of time & effort building. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Remember, the guys who "just wrote a check" earned it first, too.
