Worst Game 2024? 

Turning the Arkham Trilogy into a multiplayer lootbox trap really shows how oblivious WB's upper management is to games

8 years of development for a passable looter shooter thanks WB what a great use of Rocksteady!

if there are 10 single player games, people can play all 10 of them. if there are 10 live service games, people will play just one of them. live service doesn't work unless you are on the very top of the food chain.

I feel like one of the best representations of superman was in the animated show during his "world of cardboard" speech. He is in no way a morally grey character, he represents truth and justice and the willingness to sacrifice ones own comfort and well being in order to protect those around you. He has the nick name the big blue boy scout for a reason, he's the moral compass of the Justice League. Batman on multiple occasions said that if Superman wasn't on his team he would be a much darker person

Wow, wasn't expecting Asmon to explain so eloquently why Lawful Good Superman is so great.

Wait till Asmon finds out that there’s already a whole movie about Batman effortlessly soloing the suicide squad in one night💀 And they had even more members than they do in this game😂

What we're seeing with all these live-service games is effectively a repeat of the MMO-success-chasing of the late-2000s-era.

The problem as always is Corporate greed. The people funding these games dont care about making a good game they care about milking gamers for every penny. They have openly said they want to bring back the old days of arcades where you have to pay over and over just to play. Everything corps touch eventually turns to shit due to greed and their total lack of morals and humanity.

The guy that beat almost all his villains in one night while also being poisoned btw was beaten by a group of low ranked Batman villains. And yeah looter shooter? When the past games has been a beat em up(are they called beat em up or something different) it's like turning halo into a wrestling game.

It's a shame that Kevin Conroys' final performance is in this title, not to mention the only way to revisit said performance is through RU-vid.

My uncle is an exec/adjacent, works with monetizing products like movies, games etc. And it was almost scary when I asked him how they do it and he kept repeating "patterns" and "societal behaviour" like he knew exactly how everyone works. When I showed him how dogshit this stuff is he couldn't even comprehend that identity politics and "grey" characters weren't working, he kept repeating that things like changing the race of people just for "inclusion" will always be better because someone in India would definitely like a character more if they were also Indian, not if they were a good character.. And he couldn't be convinced... I think we have to completely sack the whole executive body in every game studio out there or bring gaming back to a niche. Same as with movies, I'm exhausted at the slew of awful big budget games that just don't bring their money's worth, give me more of Lies of P or Pizza Tower. And give me new stuff, not remakes of remakes of remakes and on and on...

I just wanna point out. People were begging Rocksteady to do a Superman game for YEARS, and STILL are. But instead they choose to vomit a Suicide Squad game, and when met with SO much disappointment, they choose to do it anyway. It might be just me, but If you're gonna shovel out disappointment, at least shovel out disappointment with something people WANTED.

It's just another "Avengers game" that's it.

How games used to be made: -Okay guys, let's make a game about aliens attacking humanity in the distant future where we play as a badass soldier in power armor who has to save the day ! -Hey, what if we made a racing game about crashing your car in the most spectacular way possible ? It will be like deathmatch with cars ! How games are made today: -Focus group C said looter shooters are popular, focus group F said open world is popular, we have a license to make a game about "insert shitty IP", how do we make it a live service game ? Also our investors are clear, we need more diversity, so put a black chick in it and make it gay, we also want a slice of that battle royale pie, so add that somehow, last game didn't make enough selling microtransactions, our revenues are down, add more and make them less optional, what about a gacha system ? Who cares if it makes no sense, we need to make money and appeal to everyone.

Enough with the super-hero shit already, I'm fatigued by all the bad movies and video games.

This game is Kevin Conroy's last recorded role and deserves better.

Making rocksteady do an basic looter-shooter after proving themselves to create the arkham series, is one of the biggest misuses ever made in gaming

You know what makes this more sad, is the fact that this is supposedly the last thing Kevin Conroy, THE voice actor for Batman, voiced for, and yet we’re getting a trash game with his last performance in it.

The live service comments are on point. I used to play a lot of Destiny 2 (played since Destiny 1 release) and it just became such a chore. If you aren’t constantly on top of content drops, you fall really far behind the power curve and can’t even play endgame content that you would have been able to pre-content drop. I took about a 6 month break, came back and would have had to spend an extra $100 on expansions I missed while gone. That one was an eye opener. I used to be maxed out on three characters, I take a break and find out I might as well be a new player again. Just didn’t feel good. Came back to Monster Hunter World recently after like 2 years. I was at the same spot I left off at. It was so cathartic to be able to still progress from where I was. That my time away didn’t mean that I had to start over completely. If your not constantly on top of the live service game, you won’t be able to experience all of its content. I know I can go back to Dark Souls 3 or Elden ring whenever I want and it will still be the same incredible game.

Being turn-based made BG3 more easy to approach and play. The same did the fully voiced dialogs and other ingredients that made the BG3 more attractive for such a wider audience.

I think one of the big factors for BG3 success is how almost anything you do is a valid strategy for any situation. There are some good turn based combat RPGs that are much more linear but still tell a great story. However if you're not a fan of that type of game then it can be frustrating. BG3 was like "Yeah, almost whatever you want to do will probably mostly work." which allowed people not into the genre to have an amazing time and those of us who are into the genre to come up with some incredibly game play. I've played through it twice now and every time I've found new stuff I haven't found before or new ways to deal with a situation. While the over all story is the same all the stuff in the middle can be wildly different. Hell just playing a new class/race/background will unlock new option you didn't have before.

I think gamers in general are burnt out and over live service games built just to get you addicted and drain your bank account. The formula of making a good game and selling it was going well, dunno why they stopped doing that.

Even sadder this was one of the last things Kevin Conroy did

I subscribed because you nailed super hero meta. These devs come from hate so they can not see good in the world. Their dishonest in their Nature.

That take on Superman is spot on. Favourite character growing up, not because he was all powerful, but because he wanted to help everyone but realized it wasn't always possible. It didn't make him morally ambiguous but gave him the desire to inspire hope so that ordinary citizens could fill the gaps.

My favorite Superman movie is Superman Vs The Elite, where they literally show how letting villains live can be bad, BUT still shows that Superman will not do it. He isn't gray, he's meant to be who we should want to be.

What I don't understand is. Why are they running around with guns, shooting? these are awesome super heroes. give them some awesome attacks, combos and abilities. Jesus christ... Why are they running around shooting with guns? Completely dropped the ball there, on the basic design

I definitely think it's a WB Games issue. They are not only chasing trends, but they are 100% about the money grubbing.

Imagine if WB Games let Rocksteady make a new Arkham game using Unreal Engine 5. Arkham Knight still looks phenomenal.

it's not about gaming anymore, corporations are trying to shift this world into a dystopian future where corporate fascism takes place in gov. It might sound crazy to Americans, but as a European, I assure you this is not a conspiracy. This industry is just part of it. Meaning, it won't change, unless we change the people on the very top.

"All you had to do was make a damn Superman game Rocksteady!" ━ Big Smoke

I like how the suicide squad trailer was all CGI bullshit and everyone assumed the gameplay was probably trash because of that and look where we are.

5:54 Gollum could've easily been good. Just look at the Styx game. Ironically they were published by the same company... I don't get why they didn't give it to that studio.

Superman was and should be pure and that's why he has been loved. When certain filmmakers deconstruct him, add moral ambiguity, it destroys the character. He's no longer Superman but this other character that we don't know. Same with Indiana Jones, Han Solo, Luke Skywalker. But that's the modern entertainment industry: gone is the Christopher Reeve Superman from 1978. Now we have one who snaps necks. Gone is the ever-hopeful fighter of justice, Luke, replaced by a hopeless hermit. The sweet, beautiful love story of Han and Leia is replaced by a divorced, disconnected couple and their psycho child.

Arkham Knight remains one of the greatest mediums ever made not just a game, but the entire story cinematography design and artstyle are still top notch. what a masterpiece.

In the words of the great Stan Lee: "The person who would win in a fight is whoever the writer wants to win"

The only person that likes this game is Skill Up, and he said he liked it about as much as he liked the Avengers game. So, take that as you will. He's also one of those game reviewers paid and flown out by studios to try their games, so the bias is clearly in their favor.

Probably not the worst, but it might fail the hardest.

100% on superman. You have a catalog of how many characters and you pick the one that is unambiguously good to make grey? Ruins the whole character.

The reason the Batman games were good, was because it truly felt like you were Batman. This isn’t a harlequin, or boomerang, or deadshot, or killer shark game. It’s a generic shoot ‘em up with their faces plastered on it.

Rocksteady might go under if this game bombs. From all that I heard, very disappointing that this is the next game after the excellent Arkham Knight.

To me this just looks like a 2nd Marvel's Avengers

Has anyone else noticed that almost all the great games from last year were from devs based in non-english speaking countries? Its a trend that seems like its going to continue this year too.

No, this Batman took down a whole army and they gave wonder woman, pants, man, pants 🤢🤮

Bro's take on Superman and Jonathan Joestar and why "always good does not always mean zero flaws" is so good. I do love me some paragons with consequences. MCU's Captain America did that message right with the "plant yourself like a mighty oak" subplot. Being unconditionally upstanding is a flaw in a world that abuses it. It's a tragedy genre if you think about it.

This poor game man, it never should have been a live service, not every damn game needs to be a live service, how do we get this idea through the suits heads?

All media is having the same problem right now. they are so focused and driven to increase the size of their audience by bringing in new people that they don't realize they are alienating their core audience.

Last year taught us, each time you hit a rock bottom, there's always another guy already there with a shovel trying to dig deeper. We thought Forspoken will win, then Redfall came out and took the title for less than 3 weeks, because Gollum was just around the corner ready to elbow drop them. We had a breathing room for few months, we thought nothing can beat Gollum, and then Payday 3 came out as online only game with broken servers, and last but not least the biggest challenger came out just before we finished 2023: The Day Before, seemingly came in with a briefcase and cashed in their money in the bank contract to secure Worst Game of 2023 title. The game that existed just to scam people.

The saddest part is Rocksteady wanted to make another Batman game or a Superman game but WB didn't let them and they only agreed on the Sucide Squad game because the movie was coming out that time

I love that Asmon understands the general concept of Superman

He's not saying turn-based games are successful exclusively because they're turn-based, Asmon. He's saying that they haven't fallen out of favor because of proven traction around Star Rail, Baldur's Gate, and Persona. The people that enjoy these games don't describe them as turn based, they explain the draw to them, such as the characters, voice work, music, and narrative. The only people that describe them as turn-based are the ones doing optics coverage and the people that are using that aspect about the game as an excuse not to play them.

I hate Warner Bros., they ruined the FEAR series, very innovative idea at the time turned the shooter genre on it's head by adding the supernatural/paranormal, I wonder if we'll ever see a reboot, I remember playing the third game and almost throwing my controller at the television in anger, same with EA almost ruining Dead Space

I want a Batman game or Superman game. Also, why this game needed to be within the Arkham timeline is beyond me.

What you were saying about the fomo being a barrier is exactly what happened to me with destiny 2. I stopped playing it constantly for a few weeks so I could play a single player game I was excited for and then I was so lost I never went back.

They saw the “success” of the Marvel Avengers game, and they figured how could this go wrong?

Its funny how FOMO, turns into CBA when u reach a certain age

The whole talk about FOMO i couldn't agree more with. Ultimately it's what killed my live for destiny 2 and what keeps me from play so many other games.

Live service games should be so toxic to devs that they treat it like a death sentence to their career. They should be actively saying no, going on strike, or looking for new jobs.

Not to mention that the first level of hiring a dev is performed by HR, not the department head. HR is going to put their bias first before considering the talent prospect.

This post is aging like fine wine

This feels a *tad* like hate farming, bro. Thought you’d be the first to doubt video game journalism’s take lol

I always thought an interesting way to create a Superman game is to add a faction system and making reputation a factor. If you do good, you'll continue to be loved and do missions with The Justice League or other DC heroes If you do bad, you'll gain favor of the villains and The Justice League will come after you. Also, everytime you get into battle, you should always be challenged of being aware and cautious of your surroundings, trying your best to cause as minimal property damage and casualties as possible. If you end up being too careless and wreckless in battle, it'll also cause The Justice League to go after you.

Very good points about live service games being exhausting. There are so many games I WOULD play but can't keep up or being buying battle passes every season for every game to actually get most of their content. Most people can only stick to 1 or 2 live service games and hopefully this is realised.

His comment on FOMO at (10:22) was absolutely SPOT ON! i had that exact feeling with The Finals, and many other games. uurghhh gaming is so damn uninteresting and lacking so much nowadays. Rocksteady will suffer (another great dev company) not these WB corporate vampires,

I was originally psyched about this game... then I saw the trailer where Captain Boomerang was using an assault rifle. Seeing that, & hearing about the live-service crap, killed my interest in it REAL quick.

I can't believe WB is going to kill by FAR their best studio with this garbage. Really sucks to see such a great studio fall so far...

The higher ups must be held accountable. Say their names! This game is going to kill Rocksteady 😢

It's simple. They chose to make Sucide squad over a superman game because superman is too white.

I always roll my eyes when people say Batman's superpower is just money... It's his mind. That's how he beat everyone in the justice league in Tower of Babel. 100 moves ahead of everyone.

As someone who hasn't played BG3 yet and is still going through builds and individual challenge runs in DOS2, I have absolute faith in the fact that BG3 is still gonna be an amazing game in 10 years. Good games made by studios, that are passionate and care about their players simply last the test of time. There's also a thing to be said about single player games when it comes to the longevity: mods can exponentially extend their lifespan, because you can make your experience different every single time you play. This is especially true for games that already stand out on their own merit and don't require mods to be great. Simple tweaks to increase variety of gameplay or improve the appearance of the game as it ages can go a long way without needing to overhaul the entire thing. Also if we look at Skyrim for an example we can also deduce that games can even rise from mediocrity with the support of the community. And while that doesn't make the game itself great, it will keep it relevant and bring in revenue for years to come. An RPG game with a lot to explore, multiple choices and ways to play will have players coming back time and time again - if done right. If DOS2 came out with a brand new DLC today, I would buy it, because even though the game is already a bit older I know I'll be playing it for years to come.

Armored Core 6 was, honestly, the perfect example by Asmongold. People who dislike it, do so by personal preference, it`s that simple. But there`s no massive hate or bullshit surrounding the game. It is what is is, you like it for what it is or you don't. But this Suicide Squad game isn't what the studio used to do and is trying to be something already settled, it's trying to be like other service games instead of being it's own thing. Unfortunate.

Rocksteady isn't the same team of people that made the Arkham trilogy. All those peopke left or were laid off.

The Marvel Avengers of DC

"Superman's gone rogue! I didn't want to have to do this, but...Get me Harley Quinn."

Just don't get why they fucking HATE THE HEROES. Stop giving us Villains pretending to be heroes or making dark evil versions of the heroes and just give us the DAMN HEROES as they were meant to be for fuck sakes. Bring back the Superman that's about Hope and bright colors standing against the evil, or the Batman that fights against the worst villains in the worst city but gives the people of that shitty city hope they can be saved and has a moral code he does not cross. Or the Flash that's competent and shows mercy and can even understand what his villains are going to a hero so respected even his villains like him. Or Wonder Woman who went AGAINST her prejudice people and saw actual HOPE in the woman of man and exiled herself to help the world of man. Wonder Woman was not a Misandrist her people were she was the opposite that's why she left. Enough with the dark shit.

6:34 the thing that had kept Bungie in the running was the game play. Some of the best gun play out there!

I agree with your take here Asmon, gameplay is literally king it's the only reason why I still play Destiny 2 no other fps feels as good to me.

Harley Quinn is the definition of “I could fix that,” meaning she is supposed to be super hot, but super nuts

Yeah dude that Harley Quinn they made is dog shit. WTF? Their own game looks like a dollar store knockoff of their own characters that they already own and could have used. Just base her on Margot Robbie or Margot Kidder or whoever because that's the popular one these days. Their version of Harley Quinn would not even hold up against any given cosplayer at a comicon

there making these games for investors.. that's why we have greta thornberg as poisen ivy... because black rock will bump up your numbers if you add in there political takes... its not a conspiracy lol.. but i have, and you will be banned if you bring up this truth on there forms, on there twitter, on anything. you can ask why, and they will give you the same "we reimagine them for a modern audience" and translation, they did it for investments for black rocks alibaba's investor tool... cause wokeness is on a scale. if its not woke enough then sorry buck'o an investment in you is a business risk... can look this shit up yourself if you don't believe me.

Enchantress would be the only SS character that would have one tenth of a shot vs the JL. The others would get deleted in a second.

Famous designer Dieter Rams wrote down his thoughts on good design titled “10 Principles on Good Design”, which was later picked up and extrapolated to game design by Dan Taylor in a Gamasutra article on good level design. Recommend reading those because they do give a good idea as to why design choices in recent games sometimes feel weird or disconnected and not fun.

Problem with a live service game is the moment you miss a single day you just don't want to bother anymore.

Everybody mad should just go play the Arkham series over and over and over again all live service games aren’t for everybody destiny is a basic ass looter shooter so is division but I respect artistic freedom rather they be held at gun point or just with creative freedom Live service isn’t for EVERYONE.

I thought it was going to be like the Batman Arkham games, but from the villains perspective. Once I saw the gameplay, I lost all interest, it is nothing like the Arkham games.

When the concept of DLC first started I told people that this is where games would end up and nobody believed me, like it’s hard to believe that if you let greedy people get away with half-assing a job then they will do it as much as they can.

Man imagine if they just made an Arkham game. It would sell gangbusters

what I found more intresting about this video is that asmongold actually understands superman's character, with him liking dark knights and stuff I thought hed like morally grey superman.

you contradict yourself @AsmonTV. One minute you say streamers shouldn't do the meta, they should stick to what they wanna do. The next you say they shouldnt do what they feel like they should do what people want to see.

I like how Asmon isn't scared to say what many fans are. Harley Quinn looks fucking ugly in this game and I'm sure some extreme feminist activist was working on this game in development to make sure this is the case.

I hope that I as an indie studio can be one of those money makers. I got my own star and I'm followin it. Motto is and always will be. "Not every game has to be for everyone." I know my market and I'm gonna hopefully make what they want. Goal is a demo by the end of the year.

2:06 - Felt like the Dark Souls 1 opening. Harly Quinn, with her spunky attitude & baseball bat Shark man, who is both shark and man combined Deadshot, a man who shoots guns good And boomerang man, so easily forgotten... 🪃

I’ve grown up with Superman and Batman. They could have make a Superman game rather than making suicide squad trying to kill the impossible

6:43 Flashback to The Last of Us 2

I get it now, people dont care if the game is good or not, they dont want it to succeed bc they made great single player action game. And this game is not single player.

Pretty much hit it on head. Public relations groups and advisors try to gauge the trends on what they think gamers want without even as much as a questionnaire. The last "what project out of this list are you the most interested in?" list I've officially seen was Square Enix like half a year ago. I would think it would be a bit easier to gauge player interest if they asked more often.

When I play a live service game, I feel like I’m working a second job. Not at first of Course, but two or three weeks definitely

I played it its pretty fun :D

I would disagree that the game was DoA when it was announced. The concept of it is really damn cool. If they had made it Arkham style, with similar combat with 4 different playable characters (and maybe with coop) with pacing like an Arkham game, this would have been a smash hit. The live service thing that WB forced them to make is the shit we don’t like

So a friend challenged me some time back to try and figure out a way to make a Superman game somewhat viable (at least how you'd scale threats) and I came up with something easy but it works. 1. You got your bog standard criminals, utterly no threat at all to the point Supes stands there and goes "It tickles" as they try to harm him. Instantly beating via a light fingerflick to the head. 2. Next would be better equipped thugs, maybe Lexcorp supplied stuff, they can slowly but surely chip away at Supes if he lets them and there's alot of them but still not a huge threat. 3. Properly kitted out guys. Think like Kryptonite laced weapons, strength enhancing drugs/tech, maybe even magic as Supes has always been rather vulnerable to magic, not weak but no resistance to it. 4. Here's were you start slipping in metas, maybe some C-listers and the occasional B-lister to be that "captain" or such to the kitted out thugs. 5. Now the more well-knows come in like Bizzaro, Livewire, Volcana, and Lex, these are the big main threats and the obvious bosses of the game. 6. This is more the optional or big end bosses like Darkseid or Lobo (just cause Lobo is all but immortal so he can be a recurring and scaling secret boss) As for how you'd upgrade him, I guess you could do something like finding Kryptonian records or such, maybe functional suits to defend against weaknesses, or Supes "releases" his subconscious limiters to make himself stronger to match the threats as they escalate. Then as an added treat for postgame fun, you can go full power, truly invulnerable Supes in the free roam but the game temporarily disables it or lets you choose to disable it if you missed any side bosses so you still get a challenge at least It's not a perfect idea but it's better then the nothing we've gotten for years. And yes, this is proper Supes, the paragon we know and love, not the endlessly tiring villain turned one or the moral gray one.