I hope he returns to the game. He's probably not coming back this year if at all, but he was a top 5 QB and he retired 6-10 years early. Good QBs don't come along often. Somebody needs to challenge Mahomes.
@@drunkotaku I am too. I just want to see good games. I am confident in our ability to beat any team and the better the team, the more the legend grows. Our team led by Patrick needs to beat the best to be considered the best. So bring on the best QBs. They'll get us sometimes but we'll get them way more.
@@mribbon89 Bingo! Bucs haven't had a pro bowl quality RB since 2015 Doug Martin. Even then he wasn't on the elite echelon. Gotta place the blame on management there.
That needs to be a new tracked stat - something like "offensive player-tipped interception" or something like that. It's not always the fault of the receiver - bad passes can get tipped too - but I feel it's too black and white as is.
Stafford held the team back. The Lions missed out on so many great defensive players trying to keep Stafford happy. Stafford picked all of the Lions offensive coordinators.
Winston had weapons but 2019 year Winston looked like he wanted so badly that passing yard title and threw risky bombs which got him also interception title too ironically. Most Players in sports try to inflate their stats right before signing another contract for more money, this time it backfired. Maybe he'll learn from Brees.
Nicky Overholtzer That’s Bruce Arians’ scheme, QBs almost always have inflated interception amounts in their first year with Bruce Arians as their HC. Winston is getting undeserved hate imo
@Mike Schwab you seen how unlucky smiths been his whole career. he's actually decent when he starts playing good he gets injured and replaced. the one year we're he could have turned it around with the browns he got injured again lol
@@elipeterson7415 He's younger than Matt and has playoff experience, so I think Detroit is in pretty good hands for this rebuild with those extra draft picks
yup everyone laughed at him being the shortest qb in the league at 5 10 but he's been exceptional for what he's been given. I'm excited to see what him and d hop can do this coming year
It aged fine, he literally said, we know that this guy us going to be a franchise qb in the future, but he's still new to the league and hasn't done anything yet to warrant being put ahead of anyone else.
I think Matthew Stafford is so under appreciated. That dude is basically in one of the worst situations as a football player other than the browns and Bangles and he’s just sticking with them.
These are the rankings from the video rating 1st overall draft picks: (2000-2019) Please leave a like since I saved you time (if you want) :) These are rating worst to first as followed: 20. QB: Jamarcus Russell (OAK) (2007) 19. QB: David Carr (HOU) (2002) 18. DE: Courtney Brown (CLE) (2000) 17. QB: Sam Bradford (STL/LAR) (2010) 16. OT: Jake Long (MIA) (2008) 15. QB: Jameis Winston (TB) (2015) 14. QB: Kyler Murray (ARZ) (2019) 13. QB: Baker Mayfield (CLE) (2018) 12. DE: Jadeveon Clowney (HOU) (2014) 11. OT: Eric Fisher (KC) (2013) 10. QB: Jared Goff (LAR) (2016) 9. DE: Mario Williams (HOU) (2006) 8. QB: Carson Palmer (CIN) (2003) 7. QB: Alex Smith (SF) (2005) 6. QB: Michael Vick (ATL) (2001) 5. QB: Andrew Luck (IND) (2012) 4. QB: Matthew Stafford (DET) (2009) 3. DE: Myles Garrett (CLE) (2017) 2. QB: Cam Newton (CAR) (2011) 1. QB: Eli Manning (SD/LAC) (2004)
20. J. Russell QB - RAIDERS (2007) 19. D. Carr QB - TEXANS (2002) 18. C. Brown DL - BROWNS (2000) 17. S. Bradford QB - RAMS (2010) 16. J. Long OT - DOLFINS (2008) 15. J. Winston QB - BUCS (2015) 14. K. Murry QB - CARDINALS (2019) 13. B. Mayfield QB - BROWNS (2018) 12. J. Clowney DL - TEXANS (2014) 11. E. Fischer OT - CHIEFS (2013) 10. J. Geoff QB - RAMS (2016) 09. M. Williams DL - TEXANS (2006) 08. C. Palmer QB - BENGALS (2003) 07. A. Smith QB - 49ERS (2005) 06. M. Vick QB - FALCONS (2001) 05. A. Luck QB - COLTS (2012) 04. M. Stafford QB - LIONS (2009) 03. M. Garrett DL - BROWNS (2017) 02. C. Newton QB - PANTHERS (2011) 01. E. Manning QB - GIANTS (2004)
Gregory Siegel I mean...yeah Eli at 1. Who do you possibly rank ahead of him? He’s a borderline HOF QB who beat the greatest QB and head coach this game has ever seen in the SB...twice. So...yeah who ahead of him?
Yeah I was really surprised with all the names ahead of Murray up to Goff at 10, they were pretty much all players who showed some potential but are on the verge of being labelled as bust, while Kylers only season he was Offensive Rookie of the year. i don't think thats enough to get him ahead of 1-9, I'm fine with him being behind them based on his single season of work, but pretty much everyone in 12-10 debate-ably also only really had 1 good season and have had at least one mediocre if not out right bad one, which is the same number of good seasons and Murray and at least 1 more mediocre or bad season then he has. Seems like that should give him the edge. You want to argue Goff should be 11 instead of 13, fine, there's some subjectivity with the order of everyone at 12-10, but ahead of Murray makes no sense to me.
Why? Kyler hasn’t done anything yet. This is about rating the players on their careers. Goff has 3 winning seasons, pro bowl, super bowl appearance etc. I’m not saying Kyler isn’t crazy talented and have potential. But he and the cardinals haven’t done anything.
Honestly Im just happy you gave Stafford as much props as you did. Honestly the most underrated QB in the league. He has just never had a running game and the Lions are a disaster of a franchise.
Jake Murphy not necessarily, their defense shut down San Francisco and New England. Then again, his throw to Mario Manningham was one of the greatest I’ve ever seen
It’s so sad to see talents like Palmer, Newton, Luck, Mayfield, and Stafford get drafted to such terrible organizations. And for Alex Smith to end up in so many terrible situations is heartbreaking. That’s why Eli pulled off what he did in 2004. Wish more young players would pull stuff like that off and stick it to the teams for being so awful organizations.
Some players want to make the terrible organization a good one. Mayfield said when he got drafted i want to change everything about this team. I know he wasn't drafted by them but Brees completely changed the culture of the saints and made them to a winning team.
The wild-card Giants knocking off Tom Brady, who was fighting for that PERFECT season, is a treasure I will always hold dear. And I am a lifetime 49er fan.
@@buckeyetillidie27 First off, if both were coming off their rookie years, I could understand Baker being ahead, he had arguably a more impressive rookie year as far as passing statistics go. But, again, thats not the case, your comment is actually why Mayfield should be lower, hes no longer a rookie and while he also has much to proven, when taking BOTH of his seasons into account, what he has "proved" is quite lack luster compared to what Murray has proven. Further, if we're going to compare statistics, you can't discount Kylers 4 rushing touch downs, putting his total TDs for the year at 24. He also finished with 64.4% completion percentage despite having one of the most under whelming recieving cores in the league to throw to Bakers 63.8 in his rookie season, and only 12 picks to Baker's rookie 14. His total yards including rushing were 4266 to Bakers 3856. And he only had 5 fumbles to Bakers 7, and lost only 2 to Bakers 3. And thats comparing them in the MOST favorable way possible, using ONLY bakers rookie season. If we uses Bakers averages based on his full 2 year career to this point, things shift DRAMATICALLY in Kylers favor. Which, again, is my point. You could still argue that despite everything I brought up, Baker had a better rookie year. I think thats debateable, but it is a reasonable evaluation. But unlike Kyler, Mayfield DID have a second year, and it was bad. You can't just ignore that second year, to fairly evaluate the two you'd need to use Bakers averages, and when you do that, its not even a debate, Kyler wins hands down. Both are young enough that one, both, or neither could end up being stars in this league, but all we can evaluate to this point are their existing bodies of work, and on that basis Baker's 2019 must negate whatever slight edge he might have had over kyler based purely on his rookie season. Unrelated aside, I was born and grew up until I was 13 in Cleveland, then moved to Arizona where I spent the majority of my life. I live in neither place now, but the Browns and Cardinals are the two teams I follow and root for. So I while I might have a bias for Murray, I don't have a bias against Baker, rather, I have a Bias for him too. I've watched both play every week and like them both. But if I'm being honest with myself, because of Bakers 2019, as of right now, Murray has had a better career and I don't even think its that close.
@@DanTheMeek yea i understand but at the same time Mayfield didnt even play his full rookie season. Look at the crap coach he had his 2nd year not to mention the horrible o-line he had both years. They both have ALOT to prove but as far as ranking them Mayfield is better. And you cant say Murray is better after just 1 season. After 1 season Mayfield was the best rookie QB in years. Not to mention he did that with the browns. Murray could also have a sophomore slump this year. Not saying he will but it is very possible. So like i said if you wanna just talk 1 season then lets only compare the rookie campaigns for the 2
@@buckeyetillidie27 Again, if this list was "best rookie seasons" then I would agree, lets only compare the rookie campaigns. But thats not what this list is, it supposedly takes into account the entire body of work to this point. If Baker had had 2 great season, that WOULD be better then Murrays 1 great season, even if you thought Murrays 1 great season was a little better then either or both of Bakers. But thats NOT what happened, Baker's second season was a disaster. Could Baker turn his career around after this year? Sure, he could also regress even more. Could Murray have a sophmore slump? Sure, he could also improve. Because the future is unwritten, we can only speak to what has already happened. Murray has had ZERO bad season to date. Baker has had 1. Murray has had 1 good season. Baker has had 1. based on that body of work, Baker is currently behind Murray. The future may change that, but we can only speculate about the future. Also, the fact Baker didn't play a full season makes his higher amount of INTs and higher number of fumbles in his rookie season all the more concerning. Even compared to Bakers one good season, and even with Murray running the ball quite a bit, Murray did a much better job of protecting the ball, that can't be discounted. Also of note, the season Murray took over the Cardinals were coming off a year when they not only crushed the browns in how bad their OL was (it was historically bad the year prior), but probably the one player they signed in the offseason who was a meaningful upgrade, Marcus Gilbert, got injured for the year prior to game 1, so its arguable that Murray had an even worse OL then Baker, he just used his legs to make that OL look much better then it had looked when it had a more Baker like QB behind center the year prior. Also also of note, yes Baker took over a browns club that was the worst in the league the year prior... but so did Kyler, thats why both teams took their QBs first overall. Again, I like Baker, what he did in his rookie season was electric, I'm not ready to give up on him after one bad season like many people are, I'll be rooting for him like crazy this year, but just based on their current bodies of work, Murray's body of work is straight up superior. We can't evaluate what Murray's second year might be because it hasn't happened yet, but we MUST evaluate Mayfields because it HAS happened, and in that year he was vastly inferior to either players rookie season. Or in math terms: 1 = 1 But 1 -1 != 1
M_a_s_o_n23 We don’t know if it’s a fluke yet. They need to have no postseason success and losing seasons to call it a fluke and It’s too early to call. But it might be a fluke, time will tell.
Mayfield should be higher up. He brought the browns from a perfect season record of 0-16. To something like 7-8-1. That’s amazing for a rookie. He, single handidly, ended a joke of a franchise
I would take Palmer over Smith anyday. Most people forget that the Bengals might have went to the Super Bowl if Carson didn't tear his knee up in the playoff game against Pittsburgh. On the play he threw a touchdown if I remember it correctly.
MGRIFFIN22 this is my rankings 1: Kurt Warner 2: Wareen Moon 3: James Harrison 4: John Randle 5: Larry Little 6: Antonio Gates 7: Jason Peters 8: Tony Romo 9: Brian Waters 10: Adam Theilen
You can't blame Mayfield, setting rookie records then regressing year 2 (which commonly happens)under amateur ass Freddy Kitchens. No way Goff is better than Mayfield.
Not the best player or most consistent, but he had the most pinnacle success. Myles Garret is the best #1 pick on the list talent wise that's still playing. Luck was the best overall. Garret is a hothead though.
Completely DISAGREE!! Carson Palmer was the most talented player on that list and im a Steelers fan saying that, Andrew Luck ill give you was probably #2 behind Palmer and Myles Garrett is just a PUNK ASS PIECE OF SHIT!!
Admits that Carr had little support and won a Superbowl.. but also ranks him second to last 🤔.. also Murray is unproven, so idk how you can rank him in front of Winston.. who speaking of which I think Winston will redeem himself later in his career. He'll move up on this list.
Wow. Only one of these players MIGHT make the hall of fame in Eli Manning. You heard it hear first the number one pick is a joke outside of the goat Peyton Manning. Keep in mind there is still a lot of time for the younger guys to develop but it isnt looking to good. There have been consistent starters and winners but not too many rings. If i was a gm, i would definetely trade down and let a desperate team give me the farm.
p49512 yeah fr. Seems like a lot of these number 1 overall picks have been bombarded with injuries that essentially wrecked their careers. And these are players that weren’t really injured in college
Ryan Smith honestly though I think the reason is that the team with the first pick is the worst Team. I guarantee you if baker mayfield was on the patriots right now he would be a star. It’s sad and the first round picks in every sport under preform (besides the obvious ones like lebron and Kobe)
Jay Ayers yeah that’s fair. Would you trade down if you had the first overall pick to get a bunch more picks? Or would you just go with the “generational talent” to try and turn your franchise around. In my understanding one guy won’t be able to turn the whole franchise around. The management has to be good, coaching staff, free agency, etc.
20- jamarcus russell 19- david carr 18- courtney brown 17- sam bradford 16- jake long 15- jamesis winston 14- kyler murray 13- baker mayfield 12- jadeveon clowney 11-eric fisher 10-jared goff 9-mario williams 8- carson palmer 7- alex smith 6- mike vick 5-andrew luck 4- matthew stafford 3- myles garrett 2- cam newton 1- eli manning You’re welcome
At least the browns finally got a good pick, honestly other than Miles Garrett, Baker Mayfield is by far the best quarterback they've ever had, post 1995. So that deserves another good pick.
I like how everyone gives Eli the credit of beating the perfect season patriots when it was really the giants defense who held the team in check. Eli just had to put up points against a middle of the pack defense and even then it took a miracle pass from him to win.
We should give Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield a few more years, they are still young. Remember how long it took for Peyton Manning to win his first Super Bowl?
Clowney got drafted high because Spurrier didn't want him on his team and sold us a Buick by telling the world how he was a "Once in a lifetime talent"...He was able to get a cancer off his team without sounding like he hated him as a person and making him the NFL's problem...Then he blew up Taylor Lewan in a Bowl Game and everyone said he's the "Best of the Draft". And he's been a part-time talent who is famous for taking plays off. We learned that lesson here in Nashville. Made a living off a 3 minute College highlight reel against shitty teams. All sizzle, just gristle.
Crazy to think that very few of these guys are players I would immediately consider first ballot hall of famers. Shows how drafting well is so important in the NFL.
History will prove Jamarcus was not as bad as it seemed. Had he had a few weapons, great coaching, a little disciple, some self control, he would likely have been a great practice squad DE or something.
