Honestly, if they did that, it would be legendary… and incredibly smart for the Hayabusa/Suzuki…. Suzuki needs to make a statement with engineering ideas… it’s like they are asleep over there… definitely complacent, at the very least.
Your take on the Hayabusa is absolutely correct, UNTIL YOU RIDE ONE! I have had several sport bikes over the years, and then made the mistake of testing a Busa. That experience planted a seed that eventually, years later, unavoidably grew into ownership. Resistance was futile. My subsequent experience reminds me of the quote "Love is the feeling you get when you like something as much as your motorcycle." We are inseparable. Long live the Busa :)
It's kind of weird, but there are just some bikes that are really very "meh" on paper and you don't think much of them, then you get on them and their like f*@%ing paradise, just simply imaginably fun or great and you're totally whacked from out of left field and left all confused and giggling (and with sticky underwear). I've never ridden a Busa and I'm not really a fan of sport bikes, but something tells me this is one of those "surprising" bikes.
I simply can't agree with you. That is my opinion. I've had plenty of fast bikes and ridden every one from the 'Busa era. None of the lardy arsed Busa era bikes comes anywhere close to a modern sports bike through the corners and that, in my opinion, is why the 'Busa is sh1t. It is also the reason why the Busa has had a very limited past in Europe, where virtually none of them were on sale for more much than about 4 years, while they have been on constant sale Stateside since their introduction. On this side of the pond, there really aren't many people who are interested in power over everything else, and that is why the VMax was on sale for only a few years and the Busa likewise, just as with the ZZR14 and other power-over-everything machines. And I would argue that something like the KTM SD1290 has just as much of a gut-wrenching push from its torque as the Busa, especially as the Katoom is so much lighter. That the Super Duke is actually fun through the corners, where a Busa is simply unpleasant just piles on the pain for the Suzuki. And I know that the Suzuki is capable of accelerating fast (once it has been fettled) and that a supercharged Busa is about as fast an accelerator as it is possible to be on 2 wheel. But I, just like the guy in the video, get far more fun out of riding through corners than by blasting along straights. And I have zero interest in having my corners completely destroyed by rubbish handling.
The 400cc statement is too true. I had a Svartpilen 401 last year and I never wished for more power, except on the Autobahn. 170kph isn´t fast enough sometimes, even the least powerful cars can go faster. Anywhere else though... Yeah, I ate most cars for breakfast, I only wanted more to annoy those Golf GTI and Cupra dingleheads. If you don´t live in Germany, you never NEED more power than this. It´s only a question if you WANT more.
I find 75-100 hp is the most that one can use (with skill) on the roads. Ideal is probably 50-75 hp, depending on bike size. My V-Strom is 67 hp, but it's geared short and it's a hunk. Top speed sucks, but that teaches me to ride better.
400CC opinion on point. My 650 is a killjoy in most places aside from long high speed highway hills where the power is handy. Everywhere else I find myself wishing for more gear changing action.
This video is brilliant! More of these please! Unpopular opinions: 1. People new to the track should not ride 1000cc bikes since they ride slow in the corners. 2. AGV is like Ducati as either rich newbies buy it or experienced riders who can appreciate them. 3. Knee sliding on the public roads rarely make you faster. It's for the show.
When it comes to ABS, I think we all should actively practise losing the rear and controlling fishtailing. Also, combi braking is a very good practice which most aren't good at. My Honda 180cc only has a single channel ABS (front) and it's very intrusive. It's only when I started practising combi braking and progressive squeezing of the front lever that I truly figured out how to not let the ABS intervene and even then, the ABS does intrude from time to time.
I'd suggest it's more down to a lack of feedback from the cheap brake setups than an overly intrusive ABS system. It's something I struggled with on a loaner KTM Duke 390 when my RC8R (no ABS or traction control) was in for a major service and a sensor replacement. Basically the caliper starts to really bite late on in the lever's travel, leaving a narrow range of good braking force before the ABS sensor is triggered.
Together with a friend we own (& regularly ride!!) about 30 popular Japanese year 70's and 80's motorbikes (250,400,750,1000,...), different brands. I can tell you that the 'good old indestructible bike from whence' is very much at the end of it's life; insulation of wires and electrical plugs are failing totally, carburetors are cracking, O-rings are hard & start to leak,.... Most of this started when the bikes were +30y old. BUT most of these items can be repaired/replaced fairly easy if you are a bit handy. Not so with modern bikes with ECU & fuel injection & ABS,....
About the big adventure bikes, in my opinion having a R1250GS is mostly just about your own personal liking. It is true that you don’t necessarily need those 1250cc but it’s just like choosing between a luxury SUV, a high performance sports car, a sedan, or pretty much anything else, it’s just up to you, and even if having the most luxurious SUV isn’t really that useful or even if it doesn’t make sense, you just take it because you like it :)
I borrowed a JDM CB400 SF with a suspension and brakes overhaul and have been a small bike person ever since. Honda should bring back the VFR400 to compete with the Kawasaki zx4rr. So so fun
Personal anecdote: first bike was 400cc. the highways where I live have speed limits of 75mph, where drivers routinely drive at 90mph or above. My bike was screaming for dear life at 75mph and was terrifying to navigate the highways on. Side roads were fine but I eventually traded in for something larger that gave me more confidence in higher speed scenarios and riding with a passenger
When i go for touring, I’ll usually cover 600 kilometres per day, and i ride a Dominar 400. Which is more than enough for a fun smooth ride. And I hate people who asks about top-ends. They’re not enjoying the journey.
"It's basic because I feel pulsation" is such a silly thing to say. That's just how ABS works, and that acts as extra information to the rider. look at new Fortnine video about ABS, there is a nice explanation there. That feedback also allows you to feel the edge of the grip and safely try to break to the max point, as overbreaking won't fuck you up thanks to ABS And pulsing is just an effect of how every ABS is constructed, trying to isolate it from the brakes to not have pulsing would just make whole system more complex and less reliable
Big ADV riders - especially BMW GS riders - are the SUV-drivers of the motorcycle scene. Most seem to own it simply because of the comfort and the status symbol, maybe to take it out on a proper trip once a year at most. I’ve seen guys riding them to work in short normal clothes, wearing a backpack. While having panniers and a top box mounted. They greet less than chopper riders and some overtake in dumb and dangerous spots (like just before a roundabout a few days ago). They think they’re the bosses of the road just because they have spent a lot of money on an overengineered bike. Of course there are riders who use them properly but they appear to be the exception in my area.
I would say for many riders CBS is actually superior to budget ABS - despite ABS having the premium badge - as many motorcycle crashes relate to excess rear brake use and CBS , in it's most basic form partially powers the front brake from the rear
Totally agree 400cc is all you'll ever need. I ride a 900cc but it's not a sport bike, it's a modern classic, redlines at 7k and only produces 54bhp stock. It's not fast, not flashy, but for roads here it's all you need and I know myself, if I had a faster bike, I'd have come off it months ago.
drove 2 water cooled suzuki 2 cycle 3 cyl 750 cc. smooth as glass on hwy. sold them both with 65,000 + mi on them. oh, they never leaked. only briefly smoked on crank. after that no.
I hate ABS in cars for that reason, I can't stop if I'm fighting the brake pedal. As far as I know, I've never triggered ABS on my 390. So, so far, having to pay for it has been as wasteful as insurance payments.
Try going near top speed on the s1000. It will feel like you’re about to be thrown from the bike in 5 different directions. The hayabusa on the other hand doesn’t not only have the power, it has the chassis designed to to sit at 200 like it’s nothing. That stability comes at a price, it’s not nearly as nimble, but everything is a give and take. It’s not comparable to a supersport in any way but power.
If my commutes were shorter and/or not interstate based, I would be on an RE 350 Hunter. Living in the middle of nowhere, makes small bikes a difficult choice.
loud pipes don't save lives because loud pipes point backwards. (400cc is overkill in the UK because it's rare nowadays to keep within the limit AND max out revs in top gear. That's why a lot of Harley riders are downgrading to 125cc Monkeys!)
i currently riding a 321cc and im keeping up with mate on 1000cc on alot more rides than i thought i would, from take off and in realy sharp corners i do fine, its just on the straights going from 100 to 150 they will get there noticably faster and in the wide sloppy corner they pull out noticably faster, but on the city rides with take offs a weaving thick traffic alot of the time i take the lead witch i didnt expect, so 300cc is fine for hooning in the right enviroment.
Of what you said I only care about the adventure side. The thing about tall bikes is this, they are tall. In my opinion this is a bonus. You can see everything in the oncoming and incoming traffic from the higher position. I can anticipate better when riding, it feels safer to be on an adventure bike from this perspective. You can add the standing stance to this bonus. You are like a meerkat looking for danger. 😅
The 400cc thing is absolutely correct. My dad has owned 750s since the 80:s after upgrading from his first 400cc bike.(which he toured most of Europe with a passenger on) and has since told anyone asking that: "750 is more than you'll ever need, and anything bigger than that is just stupid." Most of his friends ride Harley's, and it is hilarious to watch him getting shit for riding a "tiny moped" and then absolutely smoking them with his 750cc V4 Sport Tourer. He's definitely become one of those old men riding adventure bikes now, though he's still sticking to his guns and riding a kittet out 750cc Honda Transalp. He's also quite happy to abuse it offroad, which he claims is why he sold his beloved V4 and bought a modern adventure bike.
Everyone may think 400cc is enough until you get your hands into something 650+ and do it properly. Moved from a 400 to a 1k half a year ago (still own both) and been feeling the difference a lot, will not make sense at all for small commutes (less than 20 min), but longer rides comfort/fun and the safety of having power when you need is where the bigger displacements really shine.
Bigger displacement sport bikes are easier to ride faster on twisty mountain roads. Not so gear specific, less fussy. However smaller displacement bikes give a thrill when you can use all the power. I just sold a 2015 VFR and replaced it with a 2008 GSF1250sa, which is fully tuned, modified and built. It’s much easier to be faster on the Bandit with 130 HP and 100 ftlbs to the rear wheel as you can concentrate more on other things than gear selection.
If you do an occasional fun trip in the summer of about 60-100 miles a 400 is enough. Especially if you live in a bit of a more densly populated part of the world. Europe, Asia etc. If you really do a lot on bike like work,travel etc or live in scarce populated parts i'd personally take a 2 cilinder 800 or about. Sporty, i'd take a 4 cilinder 600 - 750.
I sort of agree on only sub 500cc bikes for the streets, really no need for so much power on the streets. Most accidents on bikes are due to high speeds that take riders outside of their skill level. Add to that the fact that, on the streets riders are around car drivers that are clueless to how fast you are approaching. Same goes for cars too, why make cars that go over 100 mph when the speed limits dont exceed 75 or so mph... just saying there should be racing machines just for the track where everyone is there to go fast and machines for commuting on the streets where you have all sorts of mindsets sharing the road with you.
I have a Honda Blackbird and the Hayabusa should absolutely exist. The Honda is my jam, but I won’t yuk someone else’s yum. A great man said “own experiences, not things” For me the Blackbird is that experience. I love every minute of it and I could see for some - this might be the Busa.
larger cc motorcycles are better for overtaking :p And also, the engines have longer longevity , and also, they tend to even have less gasoline consumption at higher speeds. For example my 2001 CBR 600, at driving 110-120 kmh, eats far less gasoline than my 2004 CBR-125R did.
I just need a good looking bike with a reliable, fancy engine with a lot of horse power. I go grocery shopping with a ducati 848 SBK too, its nothing special.
Had a two stroke and it made me hate them. It had a carb which made it even worse. Those engines might be simple but are super fragile. One little O-ring gets leaky and the whole engine starts to run weird if at all. Every part of the engine is so extremely dependent on each other part which makes it just a pain to trouble shoot. I now ride a boxer with fuel injection and it just runs
2 stroke was made after 4 stroke as an improvement to it. Emissions is what killed it the most, though it still has advantages over 4 store. Mazda has been working on a modern 2 stroke for their cars to help fix the downsides.
I disagree on 2 points. The first is that you say the 1250 (gs) is a lesser touring bike then the rt or goldwing. The gs is way more manouvreble then the competition in the similar weight classes. I have spoken with a few people who owned an rt and asked what they tought if the gs in comparison to their bike. Quite a few of them only had an rt because the wife found it more comfortable on the back seat. Secondly, 400 cc might be enough for most people, but for me at least, the gs has superior wind protection, making longer rides way more comfortable. So 400cc might be enough, but if you want a big and comfortable bike, you need a bigger engine, or the bike would slow down quite a bit. Also its not about the top speed, but the amount of torque is really nice to have in the mountains.
i agree with every point you make brother. We motorcycle guys seems to have a big ego.I ride an fz6 fazer, and around corners pushing in to the limits on a B road is way dangerous,working with 1st and 2nd gear to keep the rpms high,when with an 400cc bike i could change more gears and be more on the fun side than on the dangerous side.I have a country house,50 kilometers from where i live that has 25km B road.I done this route with the fz6 i own now,with an sv650 i used to have,also with the fzs 600 before that.But the funniest was by far my modified Modenas Dynamik(modified two stroke) that was a true joy giving it all on the exit of the corners.Was just a 2stroke 150cc moped!
You're really missing the point of the Hayabusa in the modern day lineup. It maxes out at 186 mph just like a super sport, but it's way more comfortable at that speed. It's sitting nicely in more of a blend of a super sport and sport touring category, but without all of the bulkiness of a sport tourer like the k1600, or the riding position of an R1. Don't get me wrong, it has a lot of the bulk, but that's what sets it apart and makes it more comfortable at 186, 100, or any fast speed. Plus, you don't have to look like a grandpa on a k1600 to get similar results. TL:DR: My ass is more comfortable on a busa than a super sport.
400 cc is not enuf Becos of the power generation sync to gearing transmission. 600cc to 750 cc is the sweet spot for a smoother ride. But that too mite fall short if pillion + luggage weight sucks But each to his own
I think that Aprilia and Suzuki is also to a certain degree responsible for the bad reputation of 2 stroke motorbikes. Aprilia was the last manufacturer of 2 stroke sporty motorbikes, and therefore the RS 125 and 250 still might be the most famous sport bikes. The engine used in aprilia rs125 (and also rs250(?)) was developed by and for the suzuki rgv, as far as i remember. This thing was known for a very "pointy" power curve, while Hondas NSR 250 not only had more power in total but had a much more user-friendly power delivery with more torque in lower revs. Also i guess the Honda was more reliable, and in Japan it was sold even after the 2000's. Not sure if they had fuel injection at the end, but the last nsr 250 was pushing something over 90hp in race trim. I wish they would give 2 stroke bikes a second chance with modern fuel injection and all that good stuff...
As a returning rider now in my 50s, I'm riding every day & waiting for the situation that will convince me that my Husqvarna 401 Vitpilen is not the right bike. It's now been 3 years & 29,000kms & counting...
I bought a 400 bandit . It was a big mistake. It was a 4 cylinder and just poor to ride. Not much torque, couldn’t keep up with diesel cars unless I rode it in the 7 to 10k range, Buzzy , thrashy, to low geared, never enjoyed it. The 600 was far better , more relaxed, smoother a much more likeable bike.
Remember, opinions are emotional, wants are emotional. Needs are rational, therefore what a person "needs" is not a rational opinion. What we think we "want" is manipulated by advertising, and are in most cases, false needs.
Adv bikes don’t need to be big. The Honda CB500x is a good example, and I can tell you it can be ridden where you will never take a big BMW or the like.
I agree on all except the ABS i understand that it's a personal opinion but despite the intrusive nature, as you said it still works and does it's job. As long as it does it's job it's saving lives.
The Duke 390 is perfect for you if you live in any country that flies the rainbow flag on top of churches. In eastern Europe you can hit 299 on the ring road of any big city pretty much any day. It's bs when people tell you that there's nowhere to ride over 160. We do 200 on any 4 lane road in the capital. Traffic light goes green, you rev it up on 1st, 2nd, 3rd (1000cc bike) and in 2km there's another traffic light, so you slow down, obviously. But it's great fun and there are no pedestrians crossing those roads and you are in front of all the cars with no traffic ahead of you so you're not being a total a hole.
Comparing the Busa to a supersport is like comparing the GS to a 400 Enduro bike. It's meant to be BIG, FAST and COMFY. It will be a sad day when Suzuki inevitably kills the Busa.
Problem with the 390 is that it's too small. I'm 1,85m and always felt too big for it. The bike is awesome, and more fun than a bike bike most of the time, but it seems the lower displacement the bike, the smaller they make it. Highway isnt good either, always at the top of the rev range and no power left to safely overtake, and suoerlight so not so stable.
Gixxer Riders are so far the braves mfs ive seen. Riding with a cameltoe that huge, with the risk of it getting caught in the chain drive is a feat on its own.
The 400cc bike take is just nonsense. It has nothing to do with top speed. I prefer liter bikes. They offer twist the grip torque on demand versus wringing the piss out of engine. No need to be constantly changing gears or riding in lower gears at high revs just to have some acceleration available on demand. Blistering acceleration for outpacing traffic and when you need it quick, safe passing power and speed,. Two-up comfort and power, and comfortable cruising that isnt fatiguing or annoying.
Saying any motorcycle is pointless makes no sense. The point of motorcycles is to have fun. Having more power is fun. Ergo having more power has a point.
I get where you are coming from with your ABS segment but I think you are wrong. I know it is a weird feeling but the advice my MSF instructors gave me was to get into an empty parking lot, get up to 20 and rip the brakes. They said to do it as many times as possible until you I got used to it and to keep doing it every once and while until when I needed it and didn’t think twice about it. The only situation I can think of where ABS is worse than no ABS is off-road.
ABS on the track is meh. Also, don’t just jam on your brakes in an emergency situation, that’s how you crash. You must “apply” the brakes, the first 5% should be as smooth as possible. Same goes for throttle.
Mate, it is pointless saying Superbikes make the Hayabusa obsolete. They are different types of bikes, designed to do different things. Superbikes are built for homologation purposes so the manufacturer can race them in WSBK. They are made to be as light as possible, and that has some downsides when it comes to real world durability. Parts like engine cases, frames and swing arms are right on the limit of durability for racing. A minor crash at low speeds often damages these parts beyond repair, making the whole bike an economic write-off. The 'Busa on the other hand is designed as a road bike, and hence so much heavier, but more durable. In Australia a lot of 'Busas are ridden by middle aged guys who use them for long distance touring. Try doing 1000km in a day on a Superbike and you will understand where the Hayabusa is different and better. 'Busas commonly rack up hundreds of thousands of kilometers, I doubt any recent Superbike would have any valve seats or valve spring tension left at 100,000 km. The Hayabusa's heavier weight and longer wheelbase make them much more stable on rough roads, where they will run rings around any Superbike, that will be tank slapping so hard people will think the rider is having an epileptic seizure. The Hayabusa is awesome for two-up riding, I don't know why manufacturers even put passenger pegs on Superbikes. So in many real world situations, bikes like the Hayabusa and ZX-14 are far superior to Superbikes. But you don't see that on youtube, because real world riding is not click bait material. I hope Suzuki and Kawasaki keep making the Hayabusa and ZX-14 forever.
I think a 650cc is the perfect size. A little more than the 400cc but not at the 600cc. Good for highway speeds and you can get a speed kick but it’s not ridiculously overpowered where you’re gonna suck in turns or find yourself more often not using it to its full extent. I had someone tell me it’s more fun to go fast on a slow bike than it is to go slow on a fast bike. I’m getting a ninja 650 as my first bike and Idk if I’ll ever actually really wanna get more than that. Perfect for me for getting that adrenaline kick but also just for fun casual rides or daily commuting.
I bought a Ninja 650 thinking I was going to be sensible or use for commuting. I hated it. Under powered, sounded horrible, gutless. I only did 2,500 miles in 5 years because it was so boring to ride. Went back to proper bikes with 130+ hp and started to enjoy riding again.
4t are batter for street bikes by far, they are much more efficient, make almost the same power, rev higher and have flatter power, for large engines I will always go 4t, but for dirt riding 2t is respectable. smaller motors are always better as 2t, better reliability, less maintnence, and absolutely insane power, look at a yz125 compared to a crf150r, the yz makes 32 hp and can be modded for more, thr 150 which requires valve shim changes every damn race makes barely 22 hp while being bigger and a lot heavier. when you get larger it comes to closer performance, 250 4t's make around 41 hp at max, 250 2t will make around 46 from factory but because 2t 250 revs to around 9k rpm max and the 4t revs to 13.5k with flatter power it is almost just as fast because it is much easier to ride and you put a good average power down when you are always close ot peak power, which a 2t cant do. my opinion is 250 and under 2t is better, 250-300 im ok with both, 300+ and i prefer 4t. thats why i got a 250 2t and a 390 4t.
Nakeds are better and safer (better rider visibility). City use, 800cc Scrambler is great. Highway use, 1260cc Diavel is better. Most liter bikes have scary power, but YOU control it with your throttle and the clutch. You are the master of your destiny.
It depends on you, you can ride everything if you have to needed mental and motoric abilities. But in general, more cylinders, higher hp in higher revs, less good for the city. Lower cylinders, more torque down low, better for cities. I can recommend Honda's 500cc bikes. If you can't control yourself I'd recommend starting on a 125, note you can still kill yourself easily on one of those. Repairs are just cheaper and you tend not to die instantly, so you learn abit from crashes. Everything with a grain of salt
@@Daniel-dj7fh You are correct in that everyone has their own comfort level and physical limits. What is too much for one rider is not enough to be fun for another rider.
I'm talking about responsibility and good judgment of risk here. If roads are full, no matter how many MotoGP trophies you have. If you still ride like a nutjob you should not be on a fast bike.@@briangc1972
I dont agree on the 400cc opinion, for me its about safety. Yes my 400cc bike was able to go fast but I had to work it to get its full power, I can get to 60-70 but then theres not that much passing power left and on my new 800 its effortless. To me on a motorcycle the safest way to go is faster than the speed of trafic and to have a lot of punch ready when I need it to get out of trouble and stupid drivers, I feel a lot safer while traveling knowing I can pass an idiot. For city I agree, my 400 was more than enough
i have a ducati 821 hypermotard, i live in france where road are very twisty, and honestly i can't use it a his maximum, i have put 50 000km (35k miles) on the odo, and it is just too much power for me. tire gone every 2000miles, it's very touchy bike with lot of engine brake and hard to handle, lot of issue with engine warning on the dash ect... expensive maintenance. it's just beautiful to look at no doubt on that, but defenitely not for beginner. and i actually want to sell it, to buy something with less power, easier for every day use. ducati electronics tend to do shit under rain and ride by wire throttle don't have a very good feeling compare to cable one so it's full power or nothing, if you want to ride it slow it's just dosen't work well. if you want a bike just for week end hardcore ride it's a good bike. these doesn't correspond to USA envirronement, with long straight road it's gonna kill the bike.
Old bikes are meant to be cherished not killed... They have an unmatched charm and lots of character. Modern bikes are too smooth and too behaved. In this world legends like busa should exist. I mean most of the Moder bikes are exciting until you ride an old one. Then the Modern ones feel kinda boring. Atleast that's true for me.
Lol, the Hayabusa i took out for a weekend around 2000 was the first bike i really didn't like "and i believe it was the first bike with electronic BS " It's brakes sucked, it handled like ass, and even though it did accelerate really fast the feeling was off. I had way... more fun on a 98 zx9 or an Aprilia Milla. On another note, i really hate ABS. On my 15 Brutale 800rr "all" electronics stay off.
You do need a bike bigger than 400cc for the road. If you do any real distance on a bike a 400 is gutless and annoying. One may have a top speed of 160kmh but try to actually ride one on a high way and it is just sh!t. If you never get a chance to ride anything bigger maybe you could live with one. They aren't any fun on the twisties either because despite being light and nimble they have no torque or pull out of corners. That's big part of the fun of riding. Feeling of acceleration. If you like track days, any decent rider on a bigger bike will be so much faster you'll want to get off the track and quit or soil yourself because of the speed difrence on the end of straights. Even bikes like the R7 or Aprillia 660 are bit slow and those are much more capable than a 400cc. Maybe you don't need a 1000cc sports bike but at least something along the lines of a Street Triple, MT-09, Duke 890, Ducati Monster, Ducati Supersport... those are suitable bikes for fun. If you don't do distance a big Supermoto is most fun. Light, nimble, fun, fun, fun, fun, torgue and pull, destroys a 400cc everywhere, can do stupid fun sh!t like light off roading, ride up and down stairs, wheelies, endos, skids and they're ridiculously easy to ride. Also lighter than most 400cc bikes with way more torque. Also they have a higher top speed but are not meant for top speed either and the seat comfort isn't for long straight roads. Still I'd rather tour on a SMC-R 690 with an added silly seat cushion than on a gutless Duke 390. There. That's settled. 😂😂😂😂
Scooter riders aren't motorcyclists more so because of mindset then vehicle choice. They don't have any emotion for their scooter, its just a means for transport cheaper and faster than cars. No love for the 2 wheels aspect of it. At least here in Australia where the only scooter riders are delivery drivers.
Hard disagree. (At least in the usa) scooter guys are guys who can't afford a bike over 50cc (doesn't need registration.) If we're targeting mindset, adv dads aren't motorcyclists.
I won’t be the millionth person to suggest that the Hayabusa is about usability and super sport performance… I’m just gonna leave this point There is virtually nothing on this planet that has as much tuning potential. Almost nothing will produce the performance at the hayabusa will. No H2R well ever be making north of 1000whp. I got a fairly large collection which includes a 14r, and I’m here to tell you from personal experience I know people that ride first generation hayabusa’s around the track quicker than most people do on fireblades. Seriously think you just need to do a little bit more research on the hayabusa. Potentially look outside your local scene. Oh, and I don’t mean any harm… Just my two. Cents. And I know you mentioned tuning .
I stopped cold watching another bike channel because he said you don't need anything over 1000cc. We don't NEED to ride ANY bike. We do it for the feeling, the control, the rush, etc... self Karen moment approaching, I'm taking a cold shower before I rant.
