WOT - Most Broken OP Tier 7 SPG | World of Tanks 

Good morning all you Magnificent Morons! I am awake and ready to go!

How can you say that stun assist is a fake stat when you famously sing "I'm stunned again! Whoa, I'm stunned again!"? If stun didn't matter it wouldn't be song-worthy.

The Bach postlude is *still* an unexpected gift to the ear after all the arty explosions. The series is informative *and* entertaining. Please keep up the effort with your brand of humour. ;-)

GW Panther is one of my all time favorites. It's quick accurate and hits hard. The turret top enables wide gun arc. One of the best arty's on tier in the game.

I bought the Arty Party t shirt and WG stopped Arty platooning kinda sums up Wgaming. Love arty find it relaxing come on Claus he has map knowledge. You need to observe where tanks hangout on maps.

I like this series Claus. I'm looking forward to the tier six and I hope you will do tier five as well. I play tier five a lot because I suck.

i love my G.W Panther! so far it rocks a 5 skill crew and it will soon be a full ca$h parts build

The Stun effect the crew is slower to react. When stunned a tank crew works at 50% slower. It can literally save a tank that can reload faster than your teammate. I know in my British Tier9 I literally saved 2 tanks by stunning the enemy that could have killed them so they could shoot him first.

Didn't even knew I had a top 10 game, thanks for noticing Claus ;)

Nightmare scenario- Enemy team has a GW Panther and 2 M44 and you are driving a heavy tank

Yes these are great series. I like Marty’s barking in the back too. Hope your vacation is going well.

I play arty often....Have always made heavies a priority....Though I have been known to focus fire on the Barney's and Squidwards if on enemy team ; )

20:31 "Two SPGs hit the guy" Only one SPG in the game per side. Gotta love how Claus is oblivious to everything that he can see on screen in every video.

Gw panther is sadly my second most played tank on the other hand I comped all missions with it for the stug 4, t28htc, and t55a except for the mission 15. It's a solid arty

That aiming circle thing at the start was him turning his tank but holding his aim

Claus, you assume the stun assist comes after the spot. What if the stun comes from a blind shot and the other tanks get to spot the concealed tank because its camo decreases from the stun? It works both ways, they get free spotting and actual damage because the stun revealed the hidden tank to them. And more than that, the stunned tank, can't move, traverse or reload or aim etc as well as your own team's tanks and some of them can fire at it and stay hidden because its view range has now a penalty. Everyone benefits not just the SPG!

I have an arty account, and the most annoying thing about the stun assist, is that the game awards stun assist before any other type of assist, so it is almost impossible to get any sort of tracking damage in because if you track and stun a target, any damage done, while the target is tracked, sitting still in front of your team, goes straight to stun assist, gaining zero tracking damage. it's bullshit.

It’s so much fun to listen to Claus rant. I do agree that there should never be more than 2 SPG on a side in any match at any level. And I love to play SP

I don't counter battery while playing arty. That long reload to take a chance you might hit them plus if you miss but splash them they know where you are. I also blacklist any arty player that does hunt arty so I can make them waste their time if I'm in a game against them again.

Whats up with that weird cursor movement at 8:24?

Although you are right that 3 SPGs are too much in an open map, the question is what can you do in an SPG to carry a game or make a difference in a way you can e.g. in a medium or heavy. On balance, SPGs would be the most useless class, if there was some way to compare classes.

Few years back I had a Kolobanov with Hummel on Mountain pass. That was an intense game.

The GW panther is a nice alround arty probably why it have a lot of good games. It should be the second most mobile arty at that tier, after the lorraine (lorraine used to pass amx 13 90 uphill).

Clause, camping in artillery games makes the games last longer. The quicker the matches end the less impact artillery have, which is why between taking the chance to end the game quickly and dying or suffer a long campfest I always choose to not camp. Long games are bad because I sit there doing nothing for longer periods of time and tanks like artillery and stealthy tanks become much worse to deal with. I agree some tanks need to camp, because playing aggressively just will not work, I love to play my amx cdc every once in a while and defend. I see what you're saying, tanks that can be played aggressively die early and expect you in your lightly armored tank to move up with them and die so the game ends earlier. But those people want the game to end early so they can play their aggressive tank in a more favorable match up. There just exists a contrast in interests. In a perfect world, everyone can move up aggressively and quickly win, but that takes coordination. Either the team agrees to all out assault/camp, or they become divided and hate on each other. On the other side, having your teammates die early because they want the game to end quickly is also bad for people who camp, less teammates means less meat shields to spot for them and hold the enemies back. The ideal game usually goes with both teams having all their aggressive tanks dying and getting damage from each other while towards the end the campers have a stand off and play with view range. The worst scenario for the campers is that their aggressive teammates die without doing anything meaningful and that ends in a stomp. The worst scenario for the aggressors is that their campers don't help them out and they get stomped. Writing this out helps me understand the hopelessness of random battles and to not have any expectations. Thanks for the video clause, I like the reflecting this gives me.

I'm sorry mate but back in the day S-51 was a tier 6 with that 203mm boomstick and AP. Oh the joy that I felt when i unlocked mine after KV-2

I want to see T4 mediums, I wonder if my favorite Matilda made it.

Stun assist is no different than "tracking assist". You cannot tell me a gun that shoots 10 rpm and permatracks an enemy tank is somehow worthy of "assist" XP and Damage but a gun that shoots 2 rpm doesn't qualify for it too. The S-51 is a complete and utter waste of ammo. It's literally the only SPG I don't have. It's just awful. It may have the top spot for Damage on WOT Replays, but only because a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while. You want consistent good games? Get the M12 or GW.

I've played the S-51, GW Panther and M12. I liked the GW Panther the best at tier 7.

Depends, I go after Hvys when clustered, or if the team hvys may be overwhelmed o.0

I liked GW panther alot.. The partial turret made it stealthy and dangerous.. Reasonable reloads and accuracy.. Mobility ok.. 😊

SPG vids may be the most watched because the come out on Friday? Maybe mix it up and have the heavies or meds on Friday and see what happens. Thanks Claus!

That end :0000 I really enjoyed it ! It was so deep

Stun Effects Engine-specific power decreases 30% and the speed-25%. Suspension traverse speed decreases 20%, while the turret traverse-40%. View range deteriorates 25%. Dispersion on the move increases 50%, dispersion upon turning the hull and turning the turret each increases equally. Reload and aim time increase 50% each. Accuracy decreases 25%. You think none of those help your team kill someone

Loved the stun assist rant. Had tears coming out of my eyes. I play spgs and would definitely stun everybody.

I am waiting for the wheeled SPG's :-))

On those open maps its more the 3 tds 4 heavies that do the damage and not the spgs

As for the 'numbers' argument Claus - that simply will not work and Wargaming knows it. What if the situation were reversed and medium tanks were limited to 2 a battle with the rest camping TDs (it does happen) then no one would move for fear of being sniped by an unseen TD. The same argument works for lights, heavies and TDs. If you limit the number that can enter a battle you get longer queues and more players then decide to abandon the game and play War Thunder so they can get instantly into battle. Wargaming knows full well that there are already longer queues for SPGs. Haven't you ever noticed the statement at the bottom of the queue screen saying that it may take longer for SPGs to find a battle? If they didn't try to place at least 3 SPGs in some battles, then there would be far more with 2 SPGs in them and NONE with no SPGs. It's simply a numbers game. Wargaming does not want to lose the SPG players as more of them play premium and pay for extras. They do not want to lose 20% of their player base and have them 'churn' to other games because it could make the game less profitable. Most importantly of all, Wargaming knows from analysis of millions of games, that games without Arty tend to end in draws more often than games with Arty. I was one of the bunch that opposed the introduction of stun into the game. However, I've come to accept that it does have some realism, as Self-Propelled Guns did score more tank kills on the battlefield than any other source. That's the Tank Museum's own findings. Mind you - that includes all TDs as SPGs. I occasionally show replays from before 9.18 on my channel and you can watch how an SPG used to one-shot a heavy out of the game. It's no different to watching an FV4005 stage II ammo rack a tank today. Wargaming has been overly harsh towards Arty at the request of the tank players as they whined that it was unfair for them to be killed by an unseen enemy with just one shot. Arty has been nerfed every time it was altered. Sometimes silently without telling the players. They just nerf the sigma and blame RNG. Wargaming has to strike a balance between the needs of the Arty players and those of the tank players and if they were to limit the number of arty players per battle - it would hit Wargaming's pockets. SO THERE'S ZERO CHANCE OF THEM DOING THAT!

I agree. One per side, maximum.

Could the first guy have a cheat that moves his aim? The circle moves when he didn't shift his tank; the field of fire did not move on the mini-map. He would shoot "blind" then quickly shift the tank. Looks like the second one did the same. The aiming circle moved on its own!

How is stun assist different than tracking assist? Both steal assist from the guy who actually spotted the enemy correct?

Stun assist does barely anything for the SPG player. As an SPG player I see very few credits or experience earned from that stat. Most credits and experience is from damage dealt. As a player of other tanks I wish that SPGs had damage nerfed and earnings from damage dealt by teammate during stun buffed. That would probably reduce hatred of SPGs, make things better all around. But how's about first creating a separate category for wheelies?

Every time I'm in a heavy and 3 clicker in-game I tell my team. I camp hardcore , blame WG not me...

Wait for the new patch . The shooter will get all the xp not the one spoting . And some other weird changes .just read what wg put one the wed site

Claus, in the first game there's only 2 SPG's per side, not THREE!

Well a few years back our best arty player, loved the S-51 so we have used it in T10 CW when is other arties wher locked and he tended to use it in T10 company play. :)

I miss one shotting heavies in my 261. Sold it years ago when they nerfed arty though

Great series - thanks Claus.

hi bro . regarding 6.24 , i always use russian arty with norrrow arcs and aiming circle never ever does this , believe me. aiming circle is following the enemy there watch carefully. that HT continued to climb up the hill. so the aiming circle followed the HT and calculated the possible location there. does it sound familiar to you bro? and if you follow closely there at 6.47 it does it again. this is so clear.

Excellent video except I don't think you went into enough detail re: stun assist. Really wish you had spent more time on this travesty. I agree 3x spg is too many. I prefer 1. Gives me more rabbits to stun.

I should have uploaded one of my replayz. I did 5.6k dmg in my m12 but we lost because my team did nothing.

Dam sky pigs! I can never play an spg for more than a couple games before I feel like its just cheating.

Agree the stun feature should be removed. I like playing arty but they should go back to arty being able to use AP shells. Think about it. No splash damage or stun. You either hit or dont.

Man o man is love to try that is Marathon. Going to do and run on crusader lol trading for next. Comet

I am a scumbag SPG player and I agree 3 on one team is way too much. I wouldn't mind waiting an extra minute to get into a game with my SPG and if I don't want to wait I have over 100 other tanks I can play.

Stun assist is more about the fact u cut the tanks ability's

SU-14-1 is actually better with small gun. If you put big gun, it is more or less the same as S-51. That thing reloads too slow and is amazingly inaccurate. Yes, when it hits it does massive dmg. But to hit smth is a miracle! You spend a lot of time reloading, a lot of time aiming and then your shots goes to the Moon, not even near the target. Then you spend a lot of time reloading, just watching and doing nothing... Maybe you get to fire the second shot and then you see the battle is over, one way or another. That was, at least, my experience with it. However, if you use the small gun, you will do a lot less dmg and stun per shot, but the rate of fire will more than make up for it, even if most of your shots miss. You get to fire again and again and again... Nearly like an auto-loader.

Just seen the new Equipment 2.0 press release. You can no longer move camo nets, binos and toolboxes between tanks at no cost! 10 gold to demount each time or equip each tank individually. WOT ripping us off again. I use 6 sets of binos, 10 camo nets and 1 toolbox and I have 55 tanks, I mount what is required to the tanks I am using for that session. It will cost me about 15.5 million credits to buy each piece for each tank!!!!!

glad I had strong coffee for this mornings episode!!! SPG is sooooo Boring

Large Map, up to three SPG's, Medium map, up to two SPG's, Small map, one SPG. On the American server it is more "fun" playing SPG's, as a large number of the player base are clueless on how to play their tanks. If an SPG is scoring high that means either the allied team, enemy team or both are utterly clueless. Decent players lighting up a target should eliminate it long before a SPG shell hits. Go figure!

I hear a Marty in the background

What? I like himmelsdorf in arty, great arty map.

I can't say what i think. i write it then!, great games. Stunning point of view Claus.

I'd buy t shirt with "spg's r people too!"

SPG players are able to watch RU-vid while playing WOT

Deeply impressed.... 39-50 fps .... ;)

It’s fashionable to hate on spgs

Thanks For Letting Us know where you will be Hiding Claus when we see you Playing Arty.

GW first shot was 188 dam, not over 400....

SPG RNG has 100% chance to hit a died tank.

Why didn’t you search by damage blocked? 😃

double your damage by blind shots. You should expose this skill

What’s the object 279e equivalents in Arty.........mmmmmm none no broken arty.

Do SPGs really do too much damage ? - wonder what the average damage is compared to the other classes ????? Is an SPG shooting someone who is spotted any different to a camping TD shooting someone who is spotted ?? - I think NOT. There is often real skill to anticipating (especially at the lower tiers) where a moving tank will be . Its not always about shooting defenceless folks siting behind cover. Also what counter is there to the OP tanks with unbelievable armour ?? - The SPG drivers appreciate their art - which the heavy tank corridor shooters often don't

Where are Peter and Pierre?

Arty Marty Party.

So what your saying is the matchmaker needs sorted........lol how many years has the matchmaker been broken....

last man standing or it just take forever to rack up damage. I do not get the complaining about stun assist. They nerfed arty so badly, I do not get the stun is fake, People seem to dislike being stunned for some reason, which we all know.

Using your fake stun assist thought, then tracking assist is fake in your mind? Because your team is going to shoot at those tanks anyway.

and no you don't just shoot into the middle of your team and enemies when face hugging....A good arty player knows his splash radius and will drop the shell in behind the enemy only stunning them...Thus slowing down the enemies tank movement and reload time. Damn Noob you.. :)

WOT is taking away your ability to install 3 pieces of equipment for free. It's dollars per minute to uninstall camo, binoculars, and repair kit at 10 gold per uninstallation. Time to look at War Thunder

What the hell is a SPG? Move and dont stop moving, simple.

Now I want a cookie

Sorry, Claus. I'm one of those disgusting arty players. But Parkinsons's doesn't let me play regular tanks very often anymore.

Marty is young impressionable and requires attention discipline guidance and lots of love, do right by and listen to your furbuddy,,,

sharing is caring. so care for everyone on the map by splashing indisciminately. The longer any game is, gives the most opportunity for damage. None of those games you showed were the 3 minute games.

claus ?!? have u notice how his aiming circle was following the T71 ,, look closer !! aimboty all day long ..LMAO SO...right before a enemy gets spotted ( 1-2 seconds ) ,his aim already goes towards him , just look #replay 1 Then u have the second replay , and is all clear ,,

Once you have done all of the tiers for this series, you’ll have to start making original content that might be entertaining or humorous.

sorry what? fell asleep

Draw

Mucho rant, not much commentary

:)

You complain about stun assist Mr CC. Then tell WG to give accuracy back to arty. The stat in the garage for arty damage is 3 to 4 times more than reality. Stunning is how you make coin in arty plain and simple. Being stunned is not even half as annoying as having a clown car circle you at warp speed.

Great series - thanks Claus!

Good arty players watch the minimap and help where help is needed, stunning tanks is very useful since enemy tank reload is longer and might save friendlies, by .1 sec or more!

I'm a frequent SPG player, and agree that 2x SPG max is a good idea.

I loved My Gw Panther before all the nerfs. I used to be very nimble-It could shotgun tanks that got very close at a very high percent. And back in the day it made more cash than premiums.

Claus, when I was in the military arty was my job. The infantry would radio for our support over air support. I will take stun assist over damage because that means my friendly has more of a chance to do more damage and has more likely hood of survival.

German arty T5 to T7 are generally good (Grille, Hummel, GW Panther) - after that... US T6 and up - Russky T7 and up

You have a issue with Stun assist, yet none with spotting assist? So someone sitting there gets points for just seeing a enemy, yet someone who causes concussion damage/crew stun or vehicle damage that slows or impedes the ability of that vehicle to preform should be denied any points?

18:08 - Claus - was that a Jingles moment? - it's not a GW Tiger - it's a GW Panther! 20:24 - You said there were two SPGs - nope only one each side in this game - the first shot was a shell from a tank at the centre line. The second, more slower shell, was from the GW Panther.