WOTM: Mike WInger's Master Mason (Revisited) 

The master mason doesn't drop whole segments of wall on your head and then tells you that's part of the design

That feel when Mike both believes his deity is a mysterious, incomprehensible being, and also definitely absolutely knows for certain exactly what this mysterious and incomprehensible being both wants and intends to do. Walking that fine line of both absolutely knowing and being completely ignorant of his deity has to be rough.

This was a great reply to his analogy. Loved it!

Mike W: Ahhhhhhh! Help!!! And the walls come tumbling down.

Evangenitals.... Right up there with Excusagists in the words you have invented I will enjoy for years to come.

I develop games and I hate it when people say "you can't criticize game devs because you haven't developed games yourself". It is our job to listen to feedback and take it into account. I am pretty sure even my friends in culinary will tell you the customer doesn't have to be a master chef to tell you your food tastes weird. Imagine if politicians shut down criticism by saying the average citizen is ignorant of politics. Oh wait...

MIKE: If I came up to someone who is committing a killing, they're a master murderer and I look at them and say, "What are you doing man, that looks so weird?" In my brain I can not understand any reason why you'd do that. It doesn't seem safe, or wise. But there's a little part of me, a little voice in my head, that says, "Mike, you don't know anything about this killing; or committing killings. You just glanced at it and you made a judgment. This is the master murderer, you should just let him do his job." A little voice in his head says "Mike, you don't know anything". That part is right, but otherwise he shouldn't listen to voices in his head.

Straighter than an arrow. All praise and glory (whatever that means) to Mr. Deity, telling it like it is for 18 years.

What knowledge did we get from eating from the tree of knowledge of right and wrong if something so obviously evil isn't actually evil? I've never gotten an answer to this question. "It collapsed into a pile of genocide!" Bwaa ha ha ha!

I really enjoyed your acting in this video. And your satire. And your humor. And your willingness to engage (obliterate ?) these antiquated ideas. Thank you!

May the algorithm be with you.

Great video! My first thought after hearing Mike's analogy was: How do you know this guy is a master mason? He admits he knows nothing of the subject, and by that admission, he has no way to judge the competence of the mason or the supposed creator of the universe. Glad to finally see a response addressing this.

I am sure apprentice and fellow masons make mistakes on their way to becoming masons, but all we know of from this “master world builder” is mistakes. He made a perfect garden, and left the world-ruining fruit right where someone would eat it. He made this beautiful planet full of his favorite creations, and had to drown everything because it wasn’t right. He somehow got his favorite folks enslaved for a couple hundred years, then botched nearly every step of getting them free. Then he forgot there were tenants on the land he saved for his favorites, and instead of flooding them away, he got a bunch of his favorites killed while eliminating the tenants. He wiped out multiple settlements because they didn’t work right. He couldn’t keep his angels in order, and one of them set up a competing shop. He sent his son down to fix things and intentionally committed filicide as his solution. A mason would never make it to master with this kind of embarrassing record. I guess the qualifications were lowered for the job of God.

Another good example of how religion demands that you "just believe" and "never question the lord". Notice that they once again blame _you_ for not blindly accepting their word. _You_ are the bad guy because _you_ want evidence.

You say that there's nobody who looks like you, but I can think of a certain Kentucky Colonel who shares more than a passing resemblance.

As Steve Hofstetter said when an audient claimed, "You're not a woman, so you can't know anything.", "Yeah, I'm not a helicopter pilot either, but if I see one in a tree I know someone fucked up."

Praise to misterdeity & his videos!

He is not just assuming his imaginary sky daddy exists... but he also imagined that he is a "mason"... but not just an apprentice or ordinary one... rather a master one at that... what amazing imagination and wishful thinking.

We can assess how good the "master masons" of old were by the ease of which a marching band's worth of trumpeters brought down the Walls of Jericho.

If God's reasons are beyond our comprehension, then how does Mike know anything about God in the first place? How does he know that God portrays himself accurately? He can't.

Such a clear demonstration of the `power of faith.` God exists, and must be perfectly good and just. Therefore, anything that appears to contradict that arbitrary axiom, must be my misunderstanding. I should just have faith, because the thing I believe in, must necessarily be what I say, even if it's completely inexplicable with no tether to reality whatsoever.

My inner master mason needs master…you know what

So, I shouldn't go up to the guy building the Galloping Gertie bridge and ask, 'Is it supposed to sway like that?' Or the designer of the Pinto, 'Is that really the best place to put the gas tank?'

I love how you keep hammering the "no actionable knowledge" nail. Key word: actionable.

Oh my Hitch this was a great video!

Mike Winger is stupid. When I was around twelve, I was watching the man pouring our new concrete driveway. He was doing a poor job and I told that to my mother. She told me that he knew what he was doing and to not bother her about it. When the job was finished, she was most unhappy with the results. She admitted that I'd been correct, but the damage was done. It's still there today.

Would Mike Winger question the master mason if they were building a wall to seal (living) people inside a cave forever?

Always enjoy your educationally entertaining videos.

If he were to question the mason about the process he is putting his ignorance in danger. Can't be learning new stuff as a Christian!

I see what you did at the end there! "Master Manson!" I get it! I get it!

:''Master mason....Mister Manson." 😂👍

Let's try yet another point of view: Mike wouldn't doubt a master mason, but he has no issue attacking scientists for scientific facts he has zero education into.

If Mike disagrees with Allah, Vishnu and Thor he must be wrong in somewhere.

I used to think that some Master Excusegists were slightly better than others, and that ones like Mike Wingnut were the bottom of the barrel. But no, the only differences are the amount of sophistry they wrap their Excusegetics in.

It is a mistake to attribute divine authorship to a collection of ancient texts

Evangenitals and Master B…s would seem to go hand in hand. I’m sensing a theme here.

Mike Winger is the Winger of apologists. Beavis and Butthead fans will understand. Cheers

What?! You mean leprosy _can't_ be cured with incantations and the blood of a bird?

I hadn't heard about Martin Mull. I had to pause and watch some Fernwood 2 Night before continuing. RIP

Love the hammer analogy. That reminds me of a joke. Why was Jesus unique among the prophets? He was the only one who could whistle with his hands.

I wrote a comment, and then watched the rest of the video where he made the same points. I deleted it. He said it better anyway.

First time I saw a freemasonry note under a vid lol

Tell Mike there is nothing wrong with him. He is fine. There is no God Mike solve your own problems yourself.

You have to be very gullible, if not downright stupid, not to see that your dear contractor keeps screwing up his work.

Was this Master Mason hiding? Was he one of three equal but separate Master Masons?

"5 metric tons"!

2:26 I needed that conversion factor today to calculate my junk video consumption

Lol @ RU-vid putting in a warning about Freemasonry.

i waited really patiently for this episode. why didn't three come at once?

All in all it’s just a… nother brick in the wall….

Thank you for explaining EXACTLY what a $h!t Ton is. I've been trying to figure that out for decades!😊

Thanks Bri Bri... ..

What about a Master Baker?

He can’t seem to comprehend that even if a god existed, it could very well be a god that is not all good. Why does he believe the god is all god in the first place?

Apologists; pretentiously postulating on pretentious prophesy. Commonly known as lying.

evangenitals, lol!! I wasn't sure I'd heard you right so I listened again.

Mike Winger says the dumbest things. Plays so well with his desperate audience.

Poor Mike. At least he tried but lost it.

No master bakers however. Leave that to mike, the verbal variety

The Amish are awful. The misogyny is…horrifying, to just mention one aspect.

Make sure you can tell the difference between a male and female goat before you learn how to milk them, LOL🤣

Has mickie never been to Machu Picchu?

Is Mike a master bater?

You might want to check out Cults to consciousnesse's Amish series in regards to the whole " delightful people" thing.

It's also worth noting that we don't even know if there is a wall. Mike Winger and his ilk presume there was a creator. Then they presume their particular god is that creator. Then they presume their god is the one, only and very best. The Master Mason. But at no point have they ever demonstrated the creation (the wall) exists, let alone who created or built it. btw, love the evangenital quip 😂

Let's apply the evil God challenge reasoning. If you DO agree with the evil god, then you MUST be wrong.

Doesn't Master mason lead to the spilling of one's seed? I thought that was frowned upon 😮😅

How can you disagree with "something/someone" who doesn't exist? If anyone hears about this, they're warranted to think you're 🔩. 😂

Brian, damn, I got to watch these earlier, and didn't comment there. But dammit, I get interrupted, a lot. Still, get to see you. This one in particular, so perfect. Wall, cult, fits right in. Just add in they wear dear leaders mark on their forehead and boom, crossover 'maga and hell' cuz I bet mike winger is a fan of tinyfinger. Maga mini mushroom. Fits right in! Ooomph. Sorry, teehee. They really got a thingy for walls! And masters. I guess it's a real deep need.😂👍🏼🌊💙💙💙🌊🥰✌🏽

A minor point, but... whats with the shtick of having a guitar in the background in so many videos? Is that supposed to make us think the person talking is cool? I'd be willing to bet that Winger could barely strum his way through "Michael Row The Boat Ashore".

We can ask the master mason, great come back and keep on keeping on!

Lol using Rivian and Lucid Air, instead of Tesla because you don't like Elon?

What makes Shriners so skilled at wall building? Is it the dune buggies?

This winger is even worse than the band Winger. Just slightly more tolerable than Mike Licona if only because he at least seems to believe his own words.

I'm not doubting God's word. I'm doubting that the written fable is God's word. I'm doubting that people like Mike have any direct knowledge of his God. The whole thing is just a thousands of years old game of repeating false rumors.

First of all, Winger well knows Catholics join the Knights of Columbus, becoming a Mason is forbidden!

I thought mastermason was a sin?

Yahweh can't be right or wrong. It doesn't exist.

Hey, I gotta mention!

Ugh! You didn't say 'less like a master mason and more like a masturBATOR!' Heh. I'll see myself out. 🤣

🥱🥱🥱 not a critique, I'm just really tired after my coronary angioplasty

Excusagists: “I don’t know what God is thinking, or why he does what he does, or what he is doing, or why things don’t quite seem all good, or really anything regarding God and how things work; I just know that it is totally awesome!”

Mike Winger is essentially saying that if every fiber in your body screams that this cannot be true just keep on believing.

You ever saw a child walk up to real master of their craft? And see those masters become kids themselves and share their passion with the kid? People that are afraid of beeing questioned are usually the insecure ones that are afraid of beeing found out as frauds.

If god really is a "master mason", he's gonna lose that title when the building inspectors come in and see a lot of things aren't really up to code.

Mr. Winger's god, unfortunately, is a master builder who has built a house with a BDSM basement, where he's going to sadistically torture people for all eternity. In Mr. Winger's world, there are no safewords for the non-believers.

Any excuse at all, right, Mikey? The difference is that I can learn about building a wall. I can't learn about non-existing.

What is the basis for assuming his god is the Master Mason of universe building? We've never seen any other to evaluate it against. Maybe this is, in fact, a crap universe, and all the true Masters of universe building snicker behind Yahweh's back whenever the subject of his universe comes up. Maybe his mom would be embarassed to pin this universe to her fridge door.

"Who are you, oh man, to question God!" Real thought stopper.

I can't say I know a master mason, but I know a guy that tells me he built this bridge in Brooklyn. And he's ready to sell it to me cheap. I wonder if they are related.

I find it odd that theists would not understand that a god knows we would increase our knowledge of our reality over time. That at some point, some of the information in the bible would be wrong. It's as if they have made the bible their god.

Master masons like all master craftsman create masterpieces that work perfectly. Not crappy things that go wrong fall apart that can be made by nearly everyone. Crappie like us humans with defects within us that fall can kill us. If there was a creator he's no master anything 😂 More like bottom of the class/high school drop out.

Did he say "Evan-genitals"? 😂😂😂

Brian, I cannot tell you -- I simply don't have the words -- how GRATEFUL I am that, because of this video, I now know what "a $h!t ton" is! NOBODY's been able to define it for me before! Thank you! Thank You! THANK YOU! Now, if I can only get as precise a definition for the term, "$h!t show". I'm pretty sure I don't want that image festering in my brain, ready to jump out at every inappropriate moment, but there's this element of morbid curiosity . . . .

Well, after all, God's mind and being is waaaay beyond human comprehension.........EXCEPT in somehow knowing his will like all the excusigists seem to know. Great video!

A master mason building a wall - except there's no wall and no mason. It's not just a case of the emperor's new clothes, 'cos there's no clothes AND no emperor

Would be nice if you made a video about project 2025

I always love it when they're called Evangenitals! It actually fits!

Some believed that Mr. Manson was Jesus, so there’s that.

Great video, Brian!