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Hi all, last video for topics like this (actual build videos are more fun to me anyways), but I thought I would walk you all through a process for picking a class and deciding how to make them solid characters while leveling them up. Once you get into the video, it should become clear as to what I am attempting to do.
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@Eyydrian 2 года назад

@Brother Mutant73 I miss you dude. Hope you're well and life's treating you good.

@Entreped 3 года назад

Miss you Brother. Parroting what others have said, I hope life is treating you well and everything is okay. Always sucks when someone you watch drops off the face of the Earth without a word.

@fe1nofx 3 года назад

Hey man, I hope you are okay. Please do some community post if you are just having other things to do, we are really worried about you. Good luck and God Bless.

@sechrima9998 3 года назад

I hope you’re still alive. If so, looking forward to your WotR builds. If not, RIP.

@Eyydrian 2 года назад

Why wouldn't he be alive? Did you hear anything?

@sechrima9998 2 года назад

@@Eyydrian Because it's been a long time since his last video or any interaction with his community, and he was very active on RU-vid right up until he wasn't.

@mrspanky169 3 года назад

Hope all is well and looking forward to your post release build videos brother.

@InsomniaticVampire 3 года назад

Thanks so much for this. This is the first video I've seen on how to design a build for pathfinder.

@tylerdurden7965 2 года назад

Hope all is well with you brother mutant

@rohirrim7 3 года назад

It's a little bit annoying that I have to watch vids like these to even start playing the game. As someone who loves rpg games, but never played any tabletop I quickly realized that, at least in my case, I already had to know the character I wanted to play before even actually playing it. If you don't know where you want to go with your character and don't have the knowledge of the rules, it seems to me that you just end up with a mess of a character. Not that it's a big deal, lowering the difficulty is always possible which solves this problem obviously.

@Gamerpower Год назад

Hey mate, all good? We have not seen youin a whie. Just wanted to say I live your content!

@Badbentham 3 года назад

Great stuff! My personal "Lich Witch B*tch" will, after lots of fine-tuning, probably look like: NE Dhampir - Lich Path Ley Line Witch (Spontaneous Caster ; Lvl2: Conduit Surge adds +1D4 to spell DC) Patron: Insanity (Enchantment/CC ) Background: Oblate/ Healer (Int for Lore Checks) Stats: 7/14/12/14/10/20 Skills: Persuasion/ Arcana / Nature / Religion Feats: 2x Focus Enchantment / 2x Spell Pen Toughness / (Initiative) / (Stat Focus) Metamagic: Selective / Persistent / (Reach) / (Quicken) Mythic Abilities: 3x Abundant Casting Favorite Metamagic: Persistent Archmage Armor Rupture Restraints ( for large parts to counter the Stagger effect of Conduit Surge) Mythic Feats: - 1x Mythic Ability Expanded Arsenal: Necromancy ( School Mastery ( Enchant) ) Spell Focus ( Enchant) Spell Pen Sorcerous Reflex - Some longer explanations: Cha caster serves multiple purposes: A) Persuasion is in general my favorite go-to skill for my main By a significant margin. B) The power surge from merging books is exponentially higher than on a Prepared Caster; even more so with Abundant Casting: A dozen or so known lvl 9 spells at max level, that can be blasted, in any order, close to infinitely? Yes, please!! C) Often forgotten? - I thought at high level the Lich path involves going full Undead for the MC, iirc? If so, Cha becomes our attribute for Hit Points and Fort saves. Dumping it, for e.g. Int, may not be completely wise, for endgame purposes. While a buffed Cha of 30-40... might in this instance lead to some funny life total digits, on a PURE CASTER. :D Why Witch over Sorcerer? Why Insanity ? - The Lich book leans heavily on the Enchantment and Necromancy schools; and it provides all Inflict Wounds/ Harm spells, to heal an undead party. Both the schools and the healing synergize significantly better with the Witch list. We clearly want spell focus in 2 schools; and: Here we go. In a vacuum (e.g. PnP environment) without any Lich book, though, Shadows would with only little doubt be the best choice, far over Enchantment. Stats and skills: Rather tricky. Dumping Str is imo a must, to get at least some numbers going. Still, only 14 Dex. However, sitting there with the base of a squishy 8 Con (Dhampir) is highly uncomfortable. And, a main char really wants at least some skills. Oblate/Healer, however is great ; getting enemy data at all times essential. (At least for me. ^^ - My own Inner Lich says: KNOWLEDGE is POWER. 😎) Both stats and skills make, in my eyes, also a lot of sense from a RP perspective: Being that irresistible BBG that aims for control over mind ( Persuasion) , body ( Nature), and soul (Religion) . either driving his enemies into madness (preferably, so ^^ ), or giving them that couple of Banshee Blasts instead. Not overly wise or perceptive, for certain, while any physical lifting is done by his minions; I mean companions, of course. 😁 No Precise Shot: Apart from Enfeeblement , the class gets only little rays: Getting all the other feats online is imho way too important. Also, I remember my Linzi all-too well: Buffed with Expeditious Retreat, it was basically always far more useful to run to an appropriate location for Bard Song, than to pew-pew away with Precise Shot. (She went "true Bard", however, with all related CC feats) Here, Hex is our Ray; a typical Witch (not Ember, - obviously :D ) is in general a SoS CC/AoE/ Heal caster, and by no means a ray blaster (....Ember.... , Sorcerer, AT, for sure) Rupture Restraints is probably really at its best here; Conduit Surge as class ability (great; but for "mundane" persons that juicy 5+ minutes of mindblast into Staggered....) gives it almost guaranteed value. Favorite Metamagic Persistent Spells sounds amazing to my ears. (WItch as the "Queen of SoS " : Sorry , Boss bro, no save for you, bro; you s*ck. ^^ ) Highly desirable Mythic Feats , apart from the ones given, are luckily rare, whereas the Abilities are excellent. Getting one more of those thus seems reasonable, while School Mastery sounds - for us, with CL30 - rather mediocre. ------------------------------------------------------------------- - Alas, P.S.: Do you know how Abundant Casting works on Arcanists? Do they get ( which would sound strange to me) BOTH additional Casts per Day, AND additional Prepared Spells?! Or, as I strongly (and maybe wrongly) assume (I would totally love me some confirmation): Only the Casts, leaving them stuck at 3 Prepared Spells for their lvl 9s ?

@brothermutant7370 3 года назад

Well thought out bentham, kudos for putting solid effort into the build and justifying your picks with solid conclusions. Your Hexes will really go far I am sure (infinite use yes?) and if you don't want/need Precise Shot, all the better. I didn't catch what undead "pet" you were planning on getting and why (suggest one that casts spells and/or buffs you, the undead Bard or Cleric perhaps?) but any will help you carry all your loot. As to School Mastery not being needed, remind me what it does? I thought it increased your DC checks (like Spell Focus/Greater Spell Focus) but haven't looked at it in awhile. Also, I don't think you become undead as you upgrade to Lich (totally sucks), but you DO get a spell that you can cast on yourself that allows you to be treated as UNDEAD (can be healed with Inflict spells for example), so make sure to cast that on yourself (its a 10 min/caster level spell). I dig your choice of Metamagic- Persistent (Disadvantage on making their saves, yes?), but not so sure about Selective. If you are planning on Real-Time with Pause, then I guess it makes sense, but I like Turn-based so I can control where my spells land. I would personally go with EXTEND (all those sexy level 25 to 30 caster level spells that get 1 round per caster level would only be 2 and a half to 3 minutes long, BUT if EXTENDED, they would be 5 minutes + and therefore would become 24 hour buffs with Enduring/Greater Enduring Spells. I can't pass up a 24 hour HASTE, Displacement, Sense Vitals, Greater Invisibility combo but you could always use Metamagic rods to get those I suppose. I don't think I caught your character Race, is it tied to the class you are playing? If ELF, I highly approve for the extra +2 to your Spell Pen checks. Make sure to grab SOME of those spells that have NO SAVE and/or NO SPELL RESISTANCE, even with your Feat Picks, I find those few spells that ignore those problems to be invaluable while leveling up (and don't forget, for monies, you can respec a toon from level 1 on up). For Arcanists, I don't remember exactly but I FEEL like the spells Picks a day were limited, the CASTINGS per day was what was increased. Still, if they can consume/convert spells on the fly, why does it matter how many they prepare at each level? It would be how many they can shoot in a day that matters to me, I guess.

@Badbentham 3 года назад

@@brothermutant7370 Elf: Gives Int, not Cha; no Negative Energy affinity. Also: Dhampir (treated as Undead for healing purposes, e.g.) rules :P - Blasting away with those large Lich AoE spells, while everyone is engaged in (turn-based) melee, e.g. with undead minions, is indeed a significant part of the planning. Having to move, to get to a friendly-fire-friendly angle, is totally (for reasons of laziness of the character alone) not. 😜 Witch is an excellent CC/ de-buffer, about en par with blasters (Necromancy instead of Conjuration/Evocation) , a good healer, and a rather mediocre buffer: Extend/ Enduring Spells is basically more of a waste here; rods are indeed enough for it. None of these spells, like Haste or Displacement, appear anywhere on her list. (She thus does not get any of them from the merged book.) For those "boring" tasks, a "buff-bot" like Nenio (somewhat degrading, sure) will sadly have to do (even thinking about turning her into a Brown-fur Transmuter powerhouse, stays at least somewhat in-line with her character) ; if necessary, Woljif. And, if it is on the Shaman/Witch list, then Camellia (is there for tanking and skellies, and other funny morbid practices, anyways, and takes not the slightest interest in offensive spell-casting) will highly likely want to do it. The inner core of the team evidently will be : Nenio, Camellia, and our (female) Witch. - Basically, a "Charmed Reversed" team, "The Power of Three will destroy Thee" ... ^^ And, then, obviously everybody who looks evil, and/or undead enough. (3 ranged characters, with our extremely lovely Wendy, CE Arushalae, and Delamere alone,; yuck :P ) For my "personal servant", I absolutely have no slight clue, yet. - This one, I will have to figure out after multiple hours of gameplay: DPS, or tank, or what. If Haste is on a list for a type (Bard, e.g.) , then probably that . XD School Mastery was CL (Pen/Power, not DC ? ) , afaik? Between 30 and 31 in the end, plus probably "effective"/buffed some, I saw way more usefulness in the other feats and abilities.

@brothermutant7370 3 года назад

@@Badbentham Ah, Dhampir, makes sense and thematically correct too. Use that spell I mention to your team NEAR you so that they can be healed with your AoE Inflict spells like your dhampir will get WHILE damaging baddies in that same circle (assuming they aren't undead of course). And I agree that an increase to PEN and caster level from School Mastery would be lame for this build (you are already reaching a caster level of 28-30 depending on how far you go) BUT if you were interested in more than one school of magic, doesn't the Mythic abilities/feats allow for a pick that takes one of your investments in one school and cut and paste them to another of your choosing? So you could grab Spell Focus and Greater Spell Focus for necromancy and then get that Mythic for Evocation or Conjuration or whatever makes sense with the Witch's spell book choices you care about (if ILLUSION is in there a LOT, I'd grab it). Maybe that was the one you grabbed for Enchantment/Necro? Good call if it is the one I am thinking about. As to Sorcerous Reflex, I assume that is to either get your summons/undead out asap if you get jumped or to throw out some other CC spell until the team gets into position? Good call, but if its for buffing, I could suggest Emergency Potion too (or instead of Sorc Refl) as it can be used EVERY round and not just the first one. If you give him/her a few of the "better" potions (haste/bless/shield of faith/mage armor/blur/barkskin/healing or inflicting potions), you should have a tool for almost every occasion just in case. Think of it as the Batman's utility belt. A trick for every need. Yeah, you can use teammates as buff bots, I just hate doing so all the time. It means I am stuck with those characters on the team and if they aren't good for anything else, then I got dead weight on the team (pardon the pun). Haven't met Wendy, Arushalae or Delamere yet (I think) so no idea there. For servant, know that the ONLY caster who has enough mental stats to cast once you get them to cast is the Bard (Charisma is the only mental stat they have that is above 10). Of course, you can give them gear to increase any stat so there is that. But the Bard is one of those death dirge bards and thematically sounds about right PLUS its a buffer/dps/healer as well with spells. Of course, if you need DPS and/or a Tank, Barbarian or Fighter are obvious choices as well. Go simple, ya know.

@Badbentham 3 года назад

@@brothermutant7370 Well; if I can afford it by any means, no one in my parties is "just a bot". ^^ Bards do their CC, healers (Daeran) blast, Camellia tanks (and: does things) , and Nenio is sadly already in 2 slightly overlapping schools (Evo/Illusion; any one of them instead would be great.... ) . Still, most parties have to rely heavily (" are stuck" ) on her, and she will have to do quite some ugly heavy buff- lifting, being the only "real" Arcane class; - unless I should really decide to turn crappy Woljif into a delicious Grenadier (Jubilost MVP, obviously 😍 ) ; I would not like that RP-wise the slightest, though. ;) "Wendy": Wenduag. Skellie Delamere: Lich exclusive, so after Mythic 3. Succubus Arushalae: First met before Mythic 3; recruitable ( and: "brought back into line" from CN to CE; what was she even thinking?! ^^ ) later. Also: You are correct; she starts off with Enchantment ( e.g. for Hideous Laughter, from her Patron ) , which is better at lower levels ( lack of fantastic Necro options) , and then applies Expanded Arsenal for the Necromancy focus . For Illusions: Yes; Shadows patron gives the whole bunch, and is the main alternative to Insanity. It is however less thematic , and gets only very little support from the book: I want to cast basically any spell of it if any possible with maximum efficiency; hence, Enchantment it is. ;) Great call on Potion! - Indeed, Sorc Reflex is mostly for added utility, and rather for dishing out a CC or two in round one: Shamans (Camellia) can (and for certain will) summon Undead; Witches don`t. This one is by no means set it in stone (Focus/Pen/Arsenal clearly are) , and Potion is a highly interesting alternative: Witches? Brew Potions? - Was there anything? 😁

@zarmal 3 года назад

Can't wait to see this Hagbound Witch build you are planning to do for someone else.

@Eyydrian 11 месяцев назад

I'd love to see some Brother Mutant content for BG3 now that it's out. Hope you're okay brother.

@Flagonborn 11 месяцев назад

Hasn’t been a squeak out of him in 2 years, I worry covid claimed him, given the timeline

@fabioferreiragomesdias6090 3 года назад

For my first playthrough, I will probably go for angel path cavalier (beast master) 1, scaled fist 1, oracle (nature mistery) 16, loremaster 2 (get sense vitals for you with loremaster, get up on your mount, grab a reach weapon, charge and do sneak attack with every hit; twice CHA to your AC and CHA to your saves with the apropriate spell). Other options would be: angel path sensei 3, ecclesiastic 16, loremaster 1 (wis to attack, damage, AC, spells DC; sense vitals for sneak attack) tiefling lich path crossblooded sorcerer 4 (abyssal and dragon), scaled fist 1, dragon disciple 4, fighter 1, eldritch knight 10 (tiefling gives +2 dex +2 int and no penalty to CHA if you are a sorcerer of abyssal bloodline - dont know if this works though - alternative would be second bloodline with mythic things; could go for angelkin asimar too - str and cha+2) Soooo many options...

@brothermutant7370 3 года назад

Do you get to use your armor on the mount? I assumed it was the mount that gets hit and not you.

@fabioferreiragomesdias6090 3 года назад

@@brothermutant7370 aparently you can give it the armor proficiency to get armored mounts, but I dont know for sure. Mounted combat feat gives bonus to AC of the mount for sure

@scalpingsnake 3 года назад

This is exactly what I was looking for and I found it accidently... thanks :D

@AgainPsychoX 3 года назад

I can't wait for the release; 2 September, 2021... I will get 2 week off, I know for sure it won't be enough to properly enjoy the game :D

@brothermutant7370 3 года назад

Lucky you. The reason for my massive surge in vids is I am at home with a broken vehicle. So I get to use all my accumulated vaca time for being without a ride to work. Was HOPING to save a week for after release so I could do a "Let's Play" but oh well. Guess I will just do it slower after I get off of work at night. Cheers and happy gaming upon release.

@Quobie 3 года назад

love your build's one thing I think you should go over with everyone is how the dazzling display feats work and do a demo.

@cicero.a4810 3 года назад

Where did you go?

@oxwagon 3 года назад

Looking forward to the strength-witch build you said was coming. Hagbound is such a flavourful idea but with a witch's BAB I'm not sure how to approach it.

@bitzturnbyte9334 3 года назад

Can you make a general guide on the different types of roles a party has and which classes best fit those rolls (tank, healer, dps)?

@jurgen4466 3 года назад

I was wondering if you could make a guide for a pure slayer weapons/shield THF build. I myself was thinking tiefling str 19 dex 14 con 14 wis14 int 12 cha 6 and with trapfinding and trickery ranger ability hence dex 14 and acolyte for wis on persuasion and perception, stealth, mobility. Apart from trapfinding and TWH, shield bash and shield mastery I am very much at loss. So would really like your good suggestions and if its duable in the first place.Thanks

@CandyMan_Bob 3 года назад

Any chance you plan on making an Arcanist build? I was thinking of going Arcanist/Arcane Trickster with the Angel path. Any tips on how to go about this? Great video btw.

@Desh727 2 года назад

Are you still playing WotR? i just installed laat night. First CRPG in my life. excluding a short stint with nwn in 2003(?). I'm probably going to run an abyssal bloodrager. either steel blood or primalist. I just like the idea of a melee dude that uses demonic power. building characters I'm this game seems tough.