Not sure why lots of folks need to make negative comments on this video. He made a good video that explains how to use the Flame King kit because it works for him. I got one of these as well because I use the 1lb cylinders with my Mr Heater and my camping stove. I work for the Fire Department and have found when something has label that has a warning its usually there for a reason. Meaning someone was hurt before from an exploding tank . I think its always best to play it safe. Best of luck and stay safe.
People who point out his ignorance of protective safety equipment aren’t being negative. They are trying to educate and prevent injury. The original poster has acknowledged as much. Plenty of mistakes and misinformation in this video.
I leave the emptys in the sun until they warm up, then bleed off what comes out, then they go into the freezer, then I fill them. I get full cylinders by bleeding any pressurized gas out a couple of times during the filling. Of course it's all done outside away from any ignition sources.
Get the adapter with the hose, not the short one. Put the big tank on the table upside down. Put the small bottle on the floor standing up. Turn on the big bottle. Let it fill. The liquid goes to the bottom. Pull out on the pressure relief valve (it's not a Schrader) valve on the small bottle for a second or two. Let it equalize again and that's it. You can weigh them to make sure they are full. You can't over fill them because it will just leak out of the relief valve.
Yes, That would essentially do the same thing. When looking for an adapter, I could only find the short one, which is really the main problem. I do enjoy the refill kit though. The cost of the kit seems to be the problem for most people.
I think you actually can overfill any size propane tank. The standardis 80% to allow for expansion due to outside temperature variations,without releasing gas from the PRV,which is not good(say during transpot in a hot vehicle).. I found numerous accounts of bulging refilled coleman 1lb tanks(incuding pictures) without searching to hard and it happened to me only once. That's when I started weighing every tank after filling. .Bulging does not sound good to me.The metal which the coleman tanks are contructed from is much thinner than tanks made to be refilled.I don't beleive the relief valves are reliable on cheap coleman tanks for the purpose of refilling. As you stated it is best to weigh them empty, and then add the exact amount of gas they are meant to hold, usually about 16 oz or a little more.This will be an 80% fill.It will allow for expansion in a hot environment without release of gas or hopefully bulging the tank.I have the flameking refill kit. It works great, and I'll occasionally fill some empty colemans if I need a few extras for a trip, but I always weigh for my own piece of mind. I can fill them for about 75 cents right now so it's quite a savings.
@@jeffreyallen3777 A bulging tank isn’t necessarily overfilled. The thin walls of the single-use tanks just can’t handle repeated refilling. It can leak before you even see a visible bulge. I guess that I shouldn’t be surprised that people will risk explosion just to save a few bucks.
I can't believe the number of videos showing guys refilling disposable cylinders. Not only stupid, dangerous and illegal, but just plain silly to expose yourself to danger. I like this video. Good work.
Thanks for the comment! Not only is it safer, but it is so easy! Next time I will wear more safety gear, so thanks for not pointing that out like everyone else.
@@italianozuzu1232 The video is about a product meant to be refilled. The disposable canisters are dangerous and should not be refilled. The risk does not stop some people though.
And if you have an urgency to get one, Stater Brothers price is through the room at $9.99 for just 1 tank. That’s insane. So thanks for this video. Hopefully everyone that sees this video man’s up to save money
I just ordered this same kit its coming from China only place I could find one all the stores around Massachusetts are out of season they say I said out of season what about the campers who have propane lanterns and stoves to cook their food on and still gets a little cooler right now at night time they should be Soldier around she should just about get it done 1 lb of propane can around here now they say this is out of season so I went so I want to China and I ordered one of those kits same as that kid that you have yours came from China also
Hi Russell. These last couple years made it hard to find many products. I'm glad you found one. I'm still loving mine. I just filled up my tanks for a camping trip tomorrow. Now that 1lb tank prices are through the roof, I can still fill mine up for just over a buck a piece. Its awesome.
Interesting. I'd love to know how you did it. The flame king kit has a tab that prevents you from screwing on a regular bottle. Did you remove that tab? Thanks for watching.
@@GoMidwestFishing Nope, didn't remove tab. I saw that tab on the Flame King nozzle and thought same thing as you. Note that notch on their refillable canisters is inward from edge. I tried with a regular Coleman 1 lb bottle and it kind of slides by the tab and still screws in and seals up just fine. However, as you know its not legal to transport refilled bottles that are marked as such. Just thought you'd like to know and give it a try, for home use of course. I suspect they can't tell us it will work for legal reasons.
@@JayHutchG I think you're onto something here. They make you think you can't for legal reasons, but in reality, it will still work. Now I'm going to try it to see if it works on mine. Thanks for the awesome info. I might have to make a follow-up video.
Yes they did. I addressed that in the video. It appears to only be some of the first tanks they made. Luckily it did not include the tanks I bought. Thanks for the comment.
FK bottles are heavier but after a few uses the valves fail. Make sure you wear gloves and protect your eyes. Have a rag handy. Propane always sprays everywhere when I screw my bottles into anything and sometimes when refilling even if the tank screwed in tight. After just 3 uses the rubber O ring on the top of one tank crumbled into tiny pieces plugging up my stove and making the tank useless. The only positive is that the tanks can be easily filled to capacity.
Hi Ash, I've been using it for years now, and I still love it. If you liked that video, you should check this one out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IM0vNSLxfEA.html I did a cost analysis of what it actually cost s to refill your own tanks. Propane prices have increased since that video, but it will give you a good idea of how much you can save. You can also see the price comparison charts here: gomidwestfishing.com/propane/ I appreciate you visiting my channel
Holy Smokes...I would only do this outside. Propane is heavier than air but moves around like smoke due to drafts & other movement, thus it can easily find an ignition source indoors.
I'm assuming you are a firefighter according to your youtube name, so I appreciate your concern. I do know better than to do this inside. I only did it one time for filming, and was right next to an open garage door.
@@GoMidwestFishing- Yes and no offense intended. One becomes a bit wonky after spending a lifetime dealing tragedies that should have been obvious dangerous situations. Now if I could fish as well as you!!!...Best regards.
@@firefighterluigi5465 No offense taken. I've gotten numerous comments on doing this inside. I forget that the whole world is watching, so I have to be more careful on how I do things. Anyway, I appreciate your service as a fireman. I have a good friend that is a fireman, and I see all that he goes through for his job. It takes a strong person to handle the things you guys see.
i have been thinking about that kit. will find out if i need it when i get my van built out. if i use bottles then i will be getting one of those. the other way was just too scary for me. thanks for demonstrating
I've filled many bottles now, and I will say that this way is much easier. Plus, you're not throwing away all those disposable bottles. People seem to be complaining about the cost of the kit, but it doesn't take long for it to pay for itself. It only costs about 70 cents to refill a 1 lb tank compared to $3-6 a bottle for disposable ones.
@@GoMidwestFishing yes your right. i saw another video and they were irritated they couldnt fill the green bottles with the kit. i didnt watch the whole video or comment. i felt they were idiots lol. there is a reason those are not refillable. they arent built for it and could fail. otherwise there would be a trade in or deposit for the green bottles.
Yes, I'm sure they want you to buy their bottles, but I'm guessing there is some liability reasons too. If you got hurt refilling a disposable bottle, they could be liable, so I see why they do it.
It’s called “profit”. Not a sham. Just capitalism. It’s a quality made product that required an investment in research and development. They had to build a factory and buy materials. They had to hire a staff, train them and pay them. They give their employees benefits and pay liability insurance. They paid lawyers to protect their business interests. Then they marketed and advertised their product. If you still think it’s a “SHAM” then you’ve never owned a business or employed a staff - and you shouldn’t
Its just easy to use, and the bottles have a bleed screw so you can fill them full. It is capable of filling them too full, so you stop filling as soon as you see propane coming out the bleed screw.
Yes, that would work also. I've been refilling my 20lb tanks at a refillable station and then just using that to fill the 1lb tanks. I found the propane exchange places only give you 15lbs of propane and charge more for it.
@@GoMidwestFishing Blue Rhino tanks are filled to 18 pounds even though it's a 20 pound tank. Most people don't read the label and think they are getting a full 20 pounds....or 18 pounds to allow expansion?
Yeah, a lot has changed since I made this video. I'm glad I bought it when I did. I can still fill a 1 lb tank for just over $1, despite the rise is propane prices.
You guys don't know how easy you have it. Here in Canada I would pay over $100 for that kit. Same with the usual propane bottles. We pay double what you do. Such is the state of our imprisonment.
The only problem is what you just did, Never ever, ever fill a tank with propane inside a building. 2 that is not air that comes out of the bottle but it's flammable gas and will explode in the right conditions. propane is a liquid, that vaporizes (or boiling) at -44 degrees. When propane boils (or vaporizes) it expands 244 times the amount of liquid. So in essence as soon as the propane hits that empty tank there is no air bleeding out that little screw but propane vapor. Very Very flammable and give the right conditions (oxygen, ignition point) that tank will burst into flames. At that point , very serious injury to people, pets, and buildings. It can blow out the walls and windows in your house, that's how powerful it is. I'm sure that you didn't watch the whole video or you would not be filling a tank inside a building. So your video is giving people bad habits that could kill them. Not funny, I'm serious! I suggest you watch the video this time and do a re-make of your video. This will save someone their Life. I've spent 35 years in the propane business and know what I'm talking about. Just admit it you did not watch the whole video did you?
@TOM ARCHER I'm sure you investigated plenty of deaths, not just from people refilling propane tanks, but _specifically_ because they refilled them _indoors_ as the original comment discusses. Right? FYI, propane is explosive indoors and outdoors. A total failure of a 1lb propane tank carries equal danger both inside and outside.
@@woofpuppy There’s a reason that every single licensed propane refill station fills their tanks OUTSIDE. Just walk up to one and ask why they don’t do it inside. They will laugh in your face - just like the rest of us are. Or you can just ask a fifth grader - they learned the same thing on the first day of science class
I also do refill outdoors and far way from anything inflatable and have a fire distiguisher on the side. Also were eye protections dn gloves. Better safer than sorry. Also Costco has the best price. 3 bottles for 40 dollars.
There is virtually no need for this complete set up, as you can easily take a Wen, Black & Decker or other collapsible work bench and put the upside bottle right onto it. Roll out the bench top to it and it easily provides a gap large enough for anyone to manipulate the LP gas control valve. It is much, much more steady than that flimsy stand provided in this kit. Essentially, the only good thing about this kit setup is the valve and hose piece, the Allen wrench set up and the empty, heavier refillable bottle, itself. All of this can be purchased or made cheaper than the costs of the kit. I know you are pitching for the kits you sell, but that stand is as wobbly and unsecure as it could possibly be. Also, a recall on leakage of these cylinder bottles does not convey a lot of faith in this setup being as safe as one would believe.
Yes, I agree the stand would be easy to make your own. The main part of this kit is the nozzle, and the tanks that are made to be refillable. I'm not selling these kits, I just liked it and thought I would demonstrate it. If you can make it for cheaper, all the better. I use it a lot and feel it was worth the investment, which quickly pays for itself if you refill a mot of tanks. Thanks for the comment.
The title is hilarious and a give away. These have been re-filled since day one due to cost savings. There are 1000 videos years before yours and better videos at that.
I went and bought a hose that has fittings for the heater and 20 pound bottles and do not use the little bottles at all. The hoses are available at most places that sell propane hardware. The heater has a built in regulator, so you don't need one on the tank.
Yes, that's a great way to do it. I normally run my heater off a 20lb tank. I use the one pond tanks for lots of things though, and they are great if you need portability.
New to gas grills. Always been a charcoal bbq'er but our new building does not allow charcoal grills. Wish I had known that before I moved in. Anyway, I bought a portable gas grill and hooked up a 1 lb propane canister using a steak saver adapter on the connecting hose which came with the grill. When I went to disconnect the tank after grilling some chicken, there was a bit of hissing and some icy cold substance which got onto the regulator. It, of course was melted within 4 minutes. So, did I do something wrong or is that normal? Was I supposed to relieve pressure somehow? Also, can you run down the proper order for disconnecting one of these tanks? Obviously first thing is to turn off the flame using the grill knobs. Thanks
I'm not familiar with a steak savor connection. I don't think you did anything wrong. You will normally get some hissing when you disconnect the bottle, as you relieve the pressure in the line. Propane will get very cold as it evaporates.
@@GoMidwestFishing Lol It is basically a 1 to 20 lb adapter. They call it a steak saver because if you run out of propane on your regular tank in the middle of a cook out, the adapter allows you to use a 1lb emergency tank. Thus...steak saved. : ) Thanks for your response. Happy fishing.
As far as I'm aware, you would need to have your own 20 lb tank with. I'm not sure how you are traveling, but when I go on camping trips, I usually bring a spare 20lb tank with just to do refills, and to have a back up in case the propane in my camper runs out. The refill station only refill 20lb or bigger tanks. 20lb tanks usually have a flat rate refill. For bigger tanks, you pay by the pound.
No DOT compliant station is going to refill your 1 lb. tank. They simply won’t risk their hazardous materials license for a dollar’s worth of propane. You would either in their position
Good question. You would have to do a real world test to get an accurate number. Considering you are filling a 1lb tank from a 20lb tank, ideally you could fill it 20 times, but I'm sure it's a few less than that when you consider all the variables like leakage from venting and disconnecting. That would actually be a good video to make.... Now to buy 20 tanks...
@@GoMidwestFishing I was just thinking, cost of filling the 20lbs tank and cost of your setup. Lets just say you have $60 in it before you can even fill a 1 pound tank. and say you can get 1 pound filled propane tanks for say $2ea. thats 30 one pound bottles before you pay off your investment. We have a buddy heater and used it for the camper and my hunting blind. And we have had it awhile and i don't think we have put 30 tanks through it yet.
@@woodknack1 Yes, if you don't use many 1lb tanks, then it might not be worth it. It depends where you buy the disposable tanks. Walmart usually has decent prices. A quick look shows a four pack for $11.97. That's about $3 each. I've also seen them as high as $6-7 each. You can get a flame king setup for $33 off amazon. It includes one tank. You can get additional tanks for as little as $10.98 at home depot. I can refill a 20lb tank where I live for $13. That makes refilling a tank cost roughly 70 cents, so it makes sense for me to do it. I also like the convenience of not having to run to the store every time I need a tank. It reduces waste too. Weigh the pros and cons and decide what's best for your needs.
@@GoMidwestFishing i just ordered one from home depot for 36, and a few tanks extra for 11 each. just the safety factor alone is worth it, not sure where you can get 1lb cans for 2 bucks, but im sure you can. i use a tabletop heater, and one can lasts a day, maybe day and a half, either way, only a few hours. cheapest ive found the one lb cans is 4/11 bucks at walmart. dont let the haters distract you, nice video
@@jimdimitrios1 I appreciate the comment. I didn't expect to have so many haters on this subject. I thought it was a cool product and decided to make a video about it. I never expected it to get this many views.
Look at the manchester 1lb tanks. They are quality. However they are taller and will not fit in things like the buddy heater. In aplication they do fit though they are great.
They do look like they are higher quality. I see they are selling for $49 on amazon. People on here are commenting that I'm stupid for paying $16 for a tank, so I 'd hate to even mention $49! I agree with you though. Sometimes its worth the price to buy quality.
@@GoMidwestFishing i really like mine. I bought 3 short fat and one tall skinny tanks. The valve on them in very good quality. The 80 percent bleeder screw works great. I have no regrets spending over 200 for the 4. For me it was about getting quality tank i know wont leak and will last. And if you take care not to scratch them, after 12 years a visual only inspection with 5 year recertification should be pretty cheap. They are great for a propane torch, propane coffeemaker, and modified buddy heater. I also use them with my lehr propane weedeater. As far as cost vs savings. If you fill them enough it will offset the cost eventually but for me it was just about wanting quality. I have had disposables leak after unscrewing them, as well as the flame king i have.
@@GoMidwestFishing $55 on Amazon right now(08/26/22). That’s just for a single refillable bottle, not the kit. Kit is approximately $45 but about 35 days to actual delivery. $16 sounds great right about now!
You need to wear some HANDS ON brand protective gloves. According to MSDS, because liquid propane is -32 degrees and can freeze or freeze-burn your fingers. Also wear goggles to protect your eyes.
@@M5tworude Ok Seve my bad. I just bought a 4.6 gal propane tank. One guy pointed out that when you fill those little green propane gas bottles that pressure release pin on the top will begin to leak if you pull it up often enough. He recommends pressing down the main pin long enough to release pressure when refilling and says it will never leak. I chose to just buy a bigger propane tank. It costs me $12.48 to fill my 4.6 gal propane tank and it lasts me 5 to 6 nights ... for $12.48. That's about $48.00 to $60.00 a month. That works for me. I also chose to purchase a filter for my gas line, they sell for about $9.00 and last for a year. The filter screws into my MR HEATER BUDDY right where the gas cannister orvgas line screw into. then, you screw the gas cannister or gas line straight onto the filter. Without the filter you will get a film on your windows that is hard as hell to clean off! Plus, you're breathing all that oily residue. So far. My filter works great!
If you are using the flame king kit, it only allows the flame king refillable tanks to be attached. It has a notch on the nozzle that prevents all other bottles from attaching. If you want to fill the tall blue tanks, you can still do it with the standard adapter, just like you would with those short green tanks.
Yes, you are right on all accounts. I will be more careful next time. I was right next to an open garage door, so there was good ventilation. It was below zero outside, so I did it inside so I wouldn't freeze to death. Thanks for your concern.
so when your unscrewing the bottle instead the nut you're not messing up the little detent on the neck of the bottle? and like the last comment said forever is a long time, nothing is forever also I don't think the goverment would let the use the old bottle as long as they have.............................JS*
No, it doesn't mess up the detent by turning the bottle. You can turn either the bottle or the nut. I may have to re-watch this one. I'm not sure what I said was "forever."
The purpose is to be able to easily refill and reuse the tanks, which coast about 70 cents to refill. Considering the cost of disposable tanks, it doesn't take long to get your money back, and then keep saving after the fact.
It would depend on use volume. It doesn't take too long at $5/ lb to break even. If it is an occasional or once a year trip then it probably isn't for you. If one uses it with a "_____ buddy" heater and/ or Coleman stove regularly, it pays for itself quickly.
Like most things... its only illegal if you get caught! Lets face it, nobody cares that it is illegal. I believe its like most laws. It's only there so when things go wrong and you blow something up, they have someone to blame.
You are free.. free to do it how they tell you to. It has to be required or else there will be dummies trying to put propane in old 2 liter plastic soda bottles. However I do wish that kit was free.. $50 is a bit steep, I have a few of those bottles that needs to be filled.
You're absolutely right. I don't think anyone actually cares about the legal aspect of it. I was getting frustrated with the refilling process, and found this new system much easier. Thanks for watching!
thanks for the video! although I don't think it's any safer or easier than the old way (which you explained incorrectly, check other methods on youtube). I was really hoping this would have been a great alternative! The nail in the coffin was the cost, you're not going to save any money when you're paying triple for the tank!
Thanks for the comment. I did research other ways, and tried them. They didn't work very well, and didn't fill the tank full. The reason its safer is because the tanks are built stronger and are made to be refilled, unlike disposable ones. You may pay triple for the tank, but you will never have to buy a tank again, and considering it costs less than $1 to refill it, it will quickly pay for itself. I really like this system and find it much easier to do than the old way. Thanks for watching, sorry it didn't solve your problem.
Here is how you get the tank full on regular cylinders: use needlenosed pliers to release gas pressure from the release valve (I bleed for about 8 seconds) then refill again. Gas pressure builds up and prevents liquid from entering. Problem solved.
@@dannym470 Yes, I agree, that is the only way to actually get those tanks full. I did mention that in the video. The problem I had was getting my needle nose to the relief valve. The adapter I have is too short and I can't get to the valve. It would work if the adapter had a hose connection to it. You probably have a better adapter than I do. I use those small bottles a lot, so I've been enjoying this new system, but I understand its not for everybody.
GoTigers330 the key point is that the bottle he uses has a mechanism to determine when the bottle is 80% full which is a key safety factor. Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.
The “old way” is always less safe because single-use tanks use then metal that cannot survive the stress of multiple refills. Eventually they will fail, leak propane and pose an explosion risk. Unsafe and illegal for the same reason. He explained in this video the refillable ones are heavier gauge metal. That’s key
Well, it costs around d $25 to recertify a 20# tank. I cant find any info on 1lb tanks. I guess a better question is: do 1lb tanks need recertification? Also, how much would you spend on disposable tanks in 10 years? Compare the costs and decide which one is best.
@@kenlinzey7430 No. These bottles have a bleed screw at the top. You open the bleed, start filling it, and when you see some propane coming out the bleed hole, close the bleed. The bottle is now 80 percent full, which is the most you are suppose to fill them.No need to chill them or do anything else to them prior to filling.
I should add that I love the way the company Made this item. It's works well. I'm not against it. Just don't fill in garage or house or any enclosed area for your own safety.
I appreciate your concern. Your right, I should not have done it inside. What you can't see is a large open garage door a few feet away and another open door at the other end. It was below zero out that day, so I did it inside for the sake of filming (and not freezing to death). I normally do this outside.
he should have started with letting people know NOT to refill the disposable tanks...anyone who watched just the first part would think that he was promoting the refilling of disposable canisters which is extremely dangerous, and illegal.
I understand your concern. What you don't see is an open garage door a few feet away, and another door open at the other end allowing a breeze to blow through. I normally fill them up outside, but did this one inside just to make the video. Thanks for your comment!
Very little chance of a problem doing this small scale refilling indoors as long as there isn't an ignition source nearby. Propane is only flammable at a 2 to 9% mixture. It dissipates below 2 very quickly.
If you have a good system already, then keep on doing it. I wasn't satisfied with the other way, so I was happy to find an easier system. I enjoy it, but I understand it's not for everyone. Thanks for watching. Have a great day!
According to the instructions, you are not suppose to keep it upside down for more than 10 min. I'm not sure why there is a time limit. I would think its either safe or its not. I would be interested in hearing what a professional in the business would say.
Sure I work in the field it's just basically napalm if the liquid that's always on the bottom where to ignite versus a cigarette lighter if it's standing up right LOL!
Considering most 1lb tanks cost $4-5, it does cost about 3 times more than a disposable. That means, after filling it up three times, you have already paid for it, and after that it saves you money on each fill up. I've owned it for a couple years now, and I still love it. If you use these tanks regularly, it will save you lots of money in the long run. I understand its not for everyone, but I just wanted to give people another option.
No. Buying $5 single-use cylinders for the next 20 years costs WAY WAY more than buying these refilling ones just once for $14. You are really bad at math
Yes, some propane does come out of the vent, That is why you do this outside. I know I demonstrated this inside (because it was super cold out) but I was right next to an open garage door. Normally I do this outside, so the propane dissipates and there is very little risk.
That’s “law” disclosure is for liability obviously. They prefer you not refill 1 because there will be a few clowns trying to OVERFILL and also because they just want you to keep Overspending money on buying tanks.
The statutes only apply to commercial shipping for resale. The coleman cylinders give the code, and if you look it up, it only applies to regulated commercial transport.
NOT a good idea to do this inside an enclosure. Need to go OUTSIDE to do this. Just for the fun of it I priced a 1 lb bottle at two locations today. Would you believe the first store (grocery store) wanted six bucks for ONE bottle, and the second convenience store wanted $8 for ONE bottle. Filling a small container yourself will end up costing about 60c, but to be completely safe a person ought to be using those refillable bottles.
I couldn't agree more! I did it inside for the sake of filming it, but I had doors open on both ends. This system has been working great for me, and I don't feel guilty using the small tanks anymore, because it cost so little now. Thanks for watching!
You're right. It has much less to do with being legal than it does with being easy to refill. Plus, the bottles are made stronger so there is a bigger safety margin.
They sell a bunch of those little adapters so a lot of propane rebels are living on the edge. They even have them at Tractor Supply so are they compliant with these propane bottle refilling psychos?
I enjoy how easy this set up is to use. If people would rather use other methods, I dont think anyone cares. It comes down to personal preference. I just wanted to demonstrate an available option.
Has one of the dark green one's ever exploded...Cos I have not seen it yet? I have to say...he's a fool to do that indoors! Never do this indoors....Kaboom! Hey honey...I just burned the house down....
@@AmericanConstellation Someone asked how many times can you refill those tanks off a 20lb tank. I think I'm going to try it and make a video with the results. What's your guess?
@@GoMidwestFishing Well if you get an "exchange" tank like a Rhino, they are not filled to 20lbs. I think they are only filled to about 16lbs. It also depends on how you fill the 1lb tanks. If you just plug it in and fill it, you're only going to get about half to three quarters full. If you chill the 1lb tank, vent it, fill it, take it off, vent it again and hook it back up and fill it some more, you'll darn near fill it up all the way. So how many times? I'd say about 15 to 18 times.
@@AmericanConstellation Sounds like a good guess. The math says you should get 20 one pound refills from a 20lb tank. In reality, I know it will be less. I would guess the same 15-18 times. I will test it out and see.
Money. It's not illegal to sell a nozzle and make money, so people do. Others have explained, its only illegal if you transport a refilled bottle. The real question is, how would someone ever know if its been refilled?
You got it exactly backwards. It’s illegal to fill the $5 Coleman single-use disposable green ones (illegal). The $16 multi-use ones are thicker gauge metal and specifically designed to be refilled (legal).
I've heard some people say that. I have not had one that leaked yet. I know they had some defective bottles at first. I think they may have fixed that problem.
I don't think the legality of it matters to most people. Its more about convenience and being easy to do. I enjoy using it and would recommend it if you use a lot of 1 lb tanks. Thanks for watching.
I wish! This is actually one of the first videos I made. I thought it was a neat product. I've since been able to add an affiliate link for people who want to support the channel... or not.
@@gloriaowensby1475 In your case, it's a no-brainer. It will definitely pay for itself quickly. I've noticed on one of my buddy heaters, it leaks a little when the bottle screwed on. I'm not sure if it is the heater or the bottle, so be aware of that and check for leaks.
Yes, you're right! I've gotten lots of concern over that. I was actually standing a few feet from a large open garage door with another door open on the other end with a breeze blowing through. I only did it this one time for filming sake because it was really cold outside.
Ok so I see a few or should I say couple of simple yet important misstatements or maybe misunderstood principles here. I'm learning every day even though I am a 30yr veteran mechanical engineer (background in refrigerants). This is propane is essentially a flameable refrigerant. I'm not being sarcastic as i can learn something from what appear dumbest/laziest people, yet they often have figured out the simplest & least labor intensive route! Maybe they are the Genius? So the fundamental physics here is the migration of a refrigerant through temperature exchange (the freezer effect) method. Rule #1 temperature & pressure are always relative with most of our surroundings, warm less dense usually rises & colder heavy or more dense falls. " Wow, did i really get into all this, tonite"? So a refrigerant liquid flows toward cold, hence putting the bottle in freezer or better yet ice water. U can almost entirely drain a central home AC unit this way, so long as it's not below 32 deg outside. With this method u can pull the tank every so often to check that the 1lb tank liquid level never rises above the valve stem relief valve. Pulling the pressure relief valve will tend to weaken/lower the spring pressure Wich will lead to leaks & then failure, dumping ur tank in warm temps! Second well now I forgot........but I do remember, lil don is a soul less, evil Russian that commited treason against US! The Billionaire victim! Oh yeah it only fills faster as a byproduct because the liquid is no longer flashing off to a higher pressure gas. But for 45 bucks u defeat the purpose of refilling & go in the whole for at least 50yrs. Just a thought! & No air should ever enter the green tank so long as u leave any positive pressure, no need to ever "release the air" as none can enter. Remember to always watch the liquid or condensate or frost line, not letting it get above the side valve stem. This is bar none the less wasteful & safest method according the father of freon, Homer E. Carrier....... Or Simpson, I can't recall!
I'm actually quite surprised at how passionate people are getting over this subject. I didn't realize it would get into such a heated debate. It is interesting to hear everyone's opinion on it though. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
The market value here does not make sense. Go to dragon den and they will turn you down. People are going to buy 3 lbs and 6 lbs propane tanks or continue to refill their green 1 lbs. You have to meet the needs of the average consumer and safety is important but you did not demonstrate any safety in your garage when it comes to protective equipment. Just greedy scoffers trying to make money and screw over the little guy but doesn’t really care about safety. All propane should be store out side away from any flame whether you think it might leak or not. You just taught me that it is ok for me to do this in my garage with the door open and here is my buddy walking up the drive way with a cigarette in his hand. This video should be taken down. At least the people that are doing it illegally are doing it out side. You can go to any propane facilities and everything is done out side.
If you use a lot of 1 lb tanks, it's definitely the cheaper way to go in the long run, despite the higher initial cost. I'm not associated with flame king, I just bought the product and thought I would demonstrate it for others who are looking at buying one too. Yes, I should have demonstrated more safety. Sorry about that. It was below zero outside and I really didn't think anyone would watch this video, being new to youtube. Anyway, lessons learned.
Victor Vaughn I understand your concern. I only did it inside this time for the sake of filming it. I was right next to a 14 foot open garage door and had another open door on the other end with a nice breeze coming through. Normally I do this outside though. Thanks for watching!
