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WP XPLOR PRO 6500 Cartridge Conversion for KTM - First Look 

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We take first look at the ALL NEW XPLOR Pro 6500 Conversion Kit for the XPLOR Spring fork
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@paulm5817
@paulm5817 3 года назад
I just did this conversion on Husky FE350 21 model and OMG the difference - soooo much better in terms of handling and whoops at speed - massive improvment
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
They are so much better. I love my set and need to do a follow up video still
@benjaminnielsen5265
@benjaminnielsen5265 3 года назад
So, WP will sell you a kit for $1300 that fixes what's wrong with your brand new WP fork? Seems legit.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Essentially Better than 1800 for a KYB conversion Then a shock is 2400, wheels are 1200, tires, pipes, tuning, protection Makes it a $20, 000 bike pretty fast and that’s not ever everything
@benjaminnielsen5265
@benjaminnielsen5265 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday It's just hard for me to believe that WP has tried multiple times and failed to meet the benchmark set by the KYB SSS back in 2006. It's kind of engineering malpractice and a slap in the face to their customers.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
I agree that KYB has that locked down. Stock XPLOR is great in slow speed and super tech I think it just comes down to money and what they can produce for the sticker price in the bike. Not trying to defend them, but that’s where my thoughts go
@slidewide1999
@slidewide1999 3 года назад
True than Ben! Or you could buy a Beta and get KYB’s stock...
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
But then you’d have a Beta.... and then you have an even bigger problem
@ironthumb3048
@ironthumb3048 3 года назад
Having a suspension set up for the rider makes a big difference in the handling of the bike
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
It’s a huge difference. Especially if you’re outside the 170-180 pound range that they think we all weigh. I’m excited to see how this goes with the new kit
@fasterthanyou7605
@fasterthanyou7605 3 года назад
Bro getting this kit on my 2022 KTM SXF450 tomorrow it’s cool seeing a RU-vidr that knows AEO personally! Big friends and supporters of all hose guys Jeremy is such a badass dude at vet nationals he personally helped me test and set up my new forks and new shock on my Husqy and his service is just unreal! You’re content is amazing bro keep it up!!
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
This got flagged for some reason so I just saw it Yes, Jeremy and the entire AEO staff is absolutely awesome. Hopefully you have this kit by now and are out enjoying it already Maybe I’ll bump into You don’t there or at the track. If we do, please say hello Travis
@darylsmioth1904
@darylsmioth1904 3 года назад
That's a lot cheaper than the similar product or the Dal Saggio Sphere's that I have. I recently put the Sphere's in my 450 KTM and like them even better than the KYB's on my 125. It will be interesting to compare the 6500's to the Sphere's.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Ya, WP nailed the price on these and they work so good. I have about 50 hours on them now and need to get a follow up video done ASAP
@scp8412
@scp8412 2 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday Please do!!! We need to know how they ride
@ryanknysh3347
@ryanknysh3347 3 года назад
Any update? I've been waiting to hear before pulling the trigger..
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
I love them Just rode the bike this weekend for the first time and did 3 days in St George’s I love them
@verdonrocksphotography3510
@verdonrocksphotography3510 3 года назад
somebody will be veer happy, cheers V!
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
So excited to try these out
@Mostviews111
@Mostviews111 Год назад
It's mind blowing that people pay this kind of money for the new ktms with 90s technology open cartridge forks.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday Год назад
Well, the rest of the bike is much better than the other options. A few changes and they are the epic
@damolux3388
@damolux3388 3 года назад
Ktm are killing it! Fit sub standard cheap to produce xplor forks as stock.........then offer a kit to bring the forks up to the standard they should be stock!! Years ago they had decent forks (OC and CC), they only went away from these due to cost of production, then had the marketing department convince buyers the new forks were decent!!!
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Stock is good enough for most These bikes are so much better than the the Japanese bikes. Gotta keep the cost down where you can
@Arcblood
@Arcblood 2 года назад
How do these compare to the KYB equivalent? Or other similar KYB options?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 2 года назад
I’ll take these over a KYB. I’ve been Extremely happy with them
@thewhitedillard
@thewhitedillard Год назад
KTM's always ship with shit suspension 😵‍💫
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday Год назад
I wouldn’t say that. You can improve on any bike’s suspension
@LocalGarage
@LocalGarage 2 года назад
Travis, I"m looking for your ride review on these forks. Did you make that video?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 2 года назад
I haven’t made one but have over 100 hours on them and love them. I actually have 2 sets now Make sure to have them setup for you because they are stiff out of the box.
@evr-mr3cp
@evr-mr3cp 3 года назад
Can you confirm if this conversion uses a spring in the upper chamber or is it a bladder like the old WP closed chamber design?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
It’s a spring in the top Besides that it’s very similar to the Dal Soggio setup as far as sizing
@endurogirl1304
@endurogirl1304 3 года назад
Just a question I have been wondering for awhile, have you ever ridden in Virginia near Manassas or in Virginia in general.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
I’ve ever been to Virginia to ride. Almost came to a dual sport event last month but it didn’t work out
@deezee147
@deezee147 2 года назад
Great video. Do you have a follow up video of the 6509 kit. Your thoughts etc? Just picked up a 23 gas gas 350 Mc and I’m looking at getting the 6500 conversion Thank you and keep up the good work
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 2 года назад
I actually don’t. But I have about 200 hours in the 6500 between my 2 bikes and love them. Just make sure they are set up for you. I recommend Dave at Schmidt Performace in Perris CA if you don’t have a shop. He knows these very well and is awesome to work with
@deezee147
@deezee147 2 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday thank you for the input sir I truly appreciate that. I hear great things about the 6500 I know the shop you are referring to
@andrewgraham8561
@andrewgraham8561 3 года назад
Nice video. Are you going to make a follow up video on your thoughts on these?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
I plan to. Have about 20 hours on them so far an absolute love them. Just need more time in the day to get everything done
@damytzeus
@damytzeus Год назад
what's difference between xplor 6500 and xact pro 6500?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday Год назад
XPlor is usually spring and XACT is usually air. I thought all the 6500s were springs but I could be wrong
@damytzeus
@damytzeus Год назад
@@EverySingleSunday i just looked at wp website. looks xact pro can also come with springs. i'm still not sure difference between xact 6500 vs xplor 6500. thanks for responding.
@jlmcdonagh9211
@jlmcdonagh9211 3 года назад
Love it! I guess springs don't come with the package?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Correct. You can use your stock springs with this kit or a stock style spring for your weight
@anthonywhite6536
@anthonywhite6536 3 года назад
So how did this set up go is there another link to get some feed back on the kit? Keen to know
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
It’s been absolutely amazing Just been traveling and haven’t had time to to film a new video since it was installed Check out any of my new video to see it in action
@dwarvenwolf
@dwarvenwolf 3 года назад
This adds some top end but does it take away the bottom end?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
It’s better everywhere. Smoother on small square edge bumps and better in big hits as well. This stuff is great
@bajacrosscountry3408
@bajacrosscountry3408 3 года назад
Did you have to re valve and re sprung ?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
I went softer in valving and used the correct spring for my weight (245)
@wrobelintl
@wrobelintl 3 года назад
I am torn between the ex and the ec versions. Do you think the explore is a better fork for the slower technical stuff? You say that you love the air fork on your 450. I do more mid to fast high desert with maybe 30% slow rocky technical. Your 2 cents?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
I think The EC fork is better in. 1-2 gear, air fork for everything over that The 21 air fork is so much better than other years. It wasn’t actually bad in the rocks if the psi was set correctly But, this WP 6500 kit is amazing and out preforms both these hands down I love this fork now
@wrobelintl
@wrobelintl 3 года назад
Thanks, appreciate the feedback.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
With both these having linkage I think a bigger difference would be if you want the lower 1-2nd genera ratio on the EC, or the headlight The EX has the same gears fro 3rd up Also, we can’t find a EC on the west coast right now. They still have EX bikes all over Sounds like the EX may be what you want anyway
@kirkthepimp1
@kirkthepimp1 3 года назад
Will this drop into the air forks
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
No it will not. There will be another set specifically for them in March or April from what I hear. Details haven’t been released yet
@jaycallie
@jaycallie 3 года назад
Awesome mate! Got my cartridge kit installed today, also got a bladder kit for the rear, wp Newcastle did mine (australia) looking forward to your review video! I can't wait to try them tomorrow.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
They have been absolutely amazing and you will not be disappointed. Have fun
@andrewgraham8561
@andrewgraham8561 3 года назад
How do you like them?
@anthonywhite6536
@anthonywhite6536 3 года назад
How much was the set up mate I'm interested to know how they went Newcastle KTM is local to me too?
@dormantmenace
@dormantmenace 3 года назад
8th gear is we're it's at!
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Full send !!!!!
@joseaguirre7517
@joseaguirre7517 3 года назад
I didn't hear You saying something about its travel suspentión! How long is it? Thank's!!
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Same as stock. 290 or 300 I believe. I think it’s in the video in a graphic mid video with all the specs
@joseaguirre7517
@joseaguirre7517 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday Alright !! I'll check it !! And one more question!! It would be possible to find a suspensión like That for my a KTM 1290 Súper adventure "R" .. and also for for My other bike! A KTM 950 Súper Enduro !!! ? Thank You very much!!
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
I think you may have to go to cone valances in those. Not sure if anyone does a cartridge kit or not.
@joseaguirre7517
@joseaguirre7517 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday It's ok!! I Will keep reserching for an up grade like That!! Thank You! Congratulations and keep going forward with this.. Your RU-vid channel! 👍💪👏👏🥉🏍️
@jethrohowell5834
@jethrohowell5834 3 года назад
Hey Travis thanks for the info. Im new to your stuff so forgive my ignorance. What type of riding do you do? I ride hard enduro/ tech stuff. My forks are at the shop as we speak and I should get them back tomorrow and ride on Saturday. How are these on the more technical terrain? All the reviews I find are for offroad and MX riding the faster stuff with big jumps. Thanks
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
I like hard Enduro and technical single track. They are as soft and plush as a stock Xplorer on the initial hits but ramp up through the stroke so they are great on big hits and g outs as well I’ve been super happy with them and highly recommend them I’m 245 W/O gear and I did soften them up a bit for technical off-road So, stock, they would be pretty stiff
@valtterisantala1257
@valtterisantala1257 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday Thanks a bunch for the great info, it’s much appreciated! How are these on a MX track? I have a 2020 FE350, stock Xplor with heavier springs for my weight (275lbs). On jumps the stock forks just bottom out too easily without adequate dampening. I ride mainly fast woods and mx tracks, not that much slow technical. I need to do something to the forks, been contemplating between the comp/reb mod and the 6500 kit. What are your thoughts, is the cost of the 6500 kit justifiable?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
They are great everywhere. I have mine valved so I’m running almost full soft of enduro. If I run the clickers in and add a little preload they are fantastic on the track I’m sure with a Setup designed for the track they could be even better (I highly recommend Schmidt Performace in Perris CA) I absolutely love this fork setup
@valtterisantala1257
@valtterisantala1257 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday Thanks for your input!
@BUZZB8Z
@BUZZB8Z 3 года назад
Sad. GasGas had KYB before the acquisition.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Well, it’s a much better bike overall now. One negative, and a bunch of positives
@BUZZB8Z
@BUZZB8Z 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday fair enough
@scrambled1213
@scrambled1213 3 года назад
Would have been so awesome if they kept KYB.
@tcmx712
@tcmx712 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday how so??? Admittedly I haven't ridden the new gas gas yet but i have rode new ktms and huskys and for tight technical riding I truely believe the old gas gas was alot better. Some minor things the Austrians do better but as a full package the 18-20 Gas Gas gets the win for me
@JoshDurston
@JoshDurston Год назад
Agree it would have been a good differentiator to standout from KTM and Husky. But it would’ve embarrassed their in house WP on comparable models.
@brianmilan3462
@brianmilan3462 3 года назад
2016 KTM XC250. Powerband converted my 4CS to XPLOR PRO 6500. After testing, I messed around with the settings, just because that's what I do. It turns out that I ended up exactly how Billy had originally set it up at. Billy and Ty are wizards. Worth the money. Riding a bike with truly dialed in suspension is amazing.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Ya, they are crazy good. Glad you’re enjoying em
@easy4steve
@easy4steve 3 года назад
good to see ,,, having more power is not about going faster but handling is money better spent thats for sure be keen to see what you think of it cheers steve/Australia
@patrickbeatty3444
@patrickbeatty3444 3 года назад
Its called buy an old ~'12~2014 ktm XC. Forks pretty much stock like that back then. Now KTM are cheap bastards and cut corners. Also used to get a kehien carb and brembo brakes and oh boy!....an aluminium sub frame and a kickstarter came on them too.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
They still come with brembos and an aluminum subframe :) But ya, some good things have gone but lots of good things have come as wel
@brannonlopez9482
@brannonlopez9482 3 года назад
Anybody ever check out VroomVroomDana's channel?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
He lives down the street from me and we ride together... What does that have to do with Suspension?
@michealburnett7877
@michealburnett7877 2 года назад
So have you done a final review yet? If so, I can't find it.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 2 года назад
I have not But I absolutely love them and highly recommend them But you’ll need to revalve them unless you’re 300 pounds
@scp8412
@scp8412 2 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday It's that bad stock even with the proper springs? I think you can order a soft shim from factory as well.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 2 года назад
@@scp8412 the valving is more for moto. I like mine soft for technical enduro.
@scp8412
@scp8412 2 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday Do you think WP has the shim available when ordering or you had to find someone that knows the pro 6500 kit?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 2 года назад
@@scp8412 I’m not sure. I had Schmidt Performace in Perris CA do mine. Dave has done tons of these kits and knows them well. He sells them also if you haven’t bought one yet
@poopfart1685
@poopfart1685 3 года назад
where did you get your red bull graphic kit for your ktm??
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
You have to provide a vin from a factory edition KTM To a dealer to get them
@dylancorpe198
@dylancorpe198 3 года назад
are u gonna upload footage of the motos
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Dirt bike’s in general or King of the Motos?
@dylancorpe198
@dylancorpe198 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday king of motos
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Unfortunately AMA didn’t let us run helmet cams. Someone broke the rule and gave me some footage so I may use their stuff to put a video together Pisses me off
@dylancorpe198
@dylancorpe198 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday that’s sucks man
@dylancorpe198
@dylancorpe198 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday do you know why they won’t let people use them anymore?
@broadwayline
@broadwayline 2 года назад
Why didn’t you do a follow up on this?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 2 года назад
Busy with life for the most part and never got around to it. They are fantastic. I have them in both my bikes now
@erkl797
@erkl797 3 года назад
will this work on my Wr250r?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
If you have XPlor forks on it already
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 2 года назад
Is the valving these come with setup for enduro / woods or more generic?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 2 года назад
They are stiff out of the box and I weigh 240. I’d say it’s more of a track setup and needs to be revealed for enduro
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 2 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday ok cool. I’m plotting a gas gas purchase and was researching fork options. These seen to pack a lot of punch for the money.
@deep4soul
@deep4soul 3 года назад
what model year will these fit?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
17+ I believe If you go in WPs site you can type in your bike and all parts that fit will come up
@simonoreilly5175
@simonoreilly5175 3 года назад
Have rode with these forks yet interested to see some reviews.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Should have the new bike finished with them in about a week. Excited to try it out
@DBT-Nick
@DBT-Nick 3 года назад
I've wondered how those work. People talk about the inserts a lot. Thanks for posting Travis. Love your videos. HEY, on your Skydio, have you disabled the 8' floor height? Makes a big difference.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Yea, I have it disabled but it’s almost hit my riding buddies a few times. It doesn’t take into account for things that are moving. I’m excited to see how they work also
@Yardstick401
@Yardstick401 3 года назад
Funny, I ordered a set this morning and then saw this video. I missed out though, my '21 TE300i doesn't have 7th and 8th gears! 😂
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
You’re missing out, my bike goes 200 MPH and my mousses love it Who is setting up your suspension. Or are you doing it yourself?
@Yardstick401
@Yardstick401 3 года назад
I bought them from Konflict Motorsports because I had a good experience with a Touratech shock they turned for my Super Enduro. For the 6500 cartridges I'll run them straight out of the box and tune them myself from there.
@Yardstick401
@Yardstick401 3 года назад
Quick update to this - I never did get the cartridges. Texas had that freak winter storm, so I expected a delay. Almost three months of delay seemed excessive though. When they stopped calling me back I had to dispute the CC charge.
@dustyrock1
@dustyrock1 3 года назад
👍😎
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
yes
@DaleBecker
@DaleBecker 3 года назад
Interesting, but when you try use that peace out sign at the end try reversing it. That way round is flipping someone off whereas the other way is the peace out sign 🤣
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Sounds like you’re on to me
@mototrailz
@mototrailz 3 года назад
hey Travis, is this pretty much the same as what you can get straight out of the box when buying a 500 EXC six days?
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
No. The 6 day’s comes with the standard open chamber system that comes in all the XPLOR forks. This kit will drop right in though and make it much better
@mototrailz
@mototrailz 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday thanks. I looked it up and it is a very complex system for the top racing guys. Since i do my own service and i am an average rider i will stick to the simple open system. Also looks like closed cartridge have more tendency to fail and you lose right away a considerable amount of damping compare to a failing open system.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
It’s very similar to what KYB, Lucky, dal saggio are doing edit it is supposed to be much much better That being said it is expensive and definitely not for everybody
@mototrailz
@mototrailz 3 года назад
@@EverySingleSunday Thanks Travis. Always interesting to have guys like you showing new products for the sport we all love
@JohnVanHolt
@JohnVanHolt 3 года назад
Looking forward to your opinion on these. I had my XPLOR converted like yours. Both legs have comp/reb. They work really well in the slow, but not very well on whoops etc. If I turn up the comp, good in whoops terrible in the slow. Maybe this kit will bridge the gap a bit.
@EverySingleSunday
@EverySingleSunday 3 года назад
Ya, it’s good but not amazing. I can’t wait to see what these do for me :)
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