Exactly…I thought these competitions vetted these people. I know this is no gi but if you have a decent background in wrestling u should have to compete at the blue belt level. You can’t roll in there with cauliflower ears and roll with white belts 😂
Tbh, I didn't realize it was a thing for decent wrestlers to compete in the expert division even if they're a white belt. My first tourney I did the beginner level
@@alotafhindi7485 depends I’ve seen obvious wrestlers in novice divisions but then I was told since I have a track wrestling profile and I have matches on flowrestling that I had to do intermediate but even still there’s been guys in intermediate that I’ve dominated with pure wrestling and a good ankle lock
I originally started as a high school wrestler. No I’m a brown belt in bJJ At the end of the day, we are all grapplers. No need to say which one is better grappling is an art. We can learn from every discipline, whether it be judo, wrestling, or catch wrestling you name it Grappling is grappling
My first naga I fought a guy like this in the 6 months and under division and he had double cauliflower ears 💀💀💀 I got choked out pretty quickly lol no way you get two cauliflower ears in 6 months training
I got double cauliflower it's funny because I started with jiu jitsu and never had it and then by the beginning of my 2nd wrestling season for my high-school I had it on both ears 😂
Ambos son excelentes la fotaleza del BJJ es la sumision en el suelo pero llevar al oponente al suelo es mas dificil para BBJ, el westling lo considero lo contrario su fuerte es tirar al oponente pero es menos practico someter a tu oponente al suelo, si ambos se complementan tenemos a una bestia de adversario
Regardless of what you think is better you can’t argue that wrestlers don’t come in with a mindset and intensity that a lot of bjj guys are unprepared for until they experience it I wrestle and I might get submitted but were both gonna be gassed by the end of it
if you are good in bjj you should win against wrestler due to subs of your back, work smarter and be dominant in gaurd. Not a single one from what we saw turn the right way after Throw, suprised by the wrestler maybe but i think not so advanced, 2 or 3 competition max.
Am I the only one a little confused with why they separate grappling into so many different disciplines? Like imagine if you combined judo, wrestling, and jiujitsu. If there's something idk about these styles that would make it hard to combine them someone tell me.
Rule set differences for some, also specific specialties they each focus on within grappling that over time makes them look and act noticeably different
Bro you are a beast but not just that WRESTLING is beast. Pure Wrestling takes pure jujitsu 7-8 times out of 10. They have different rule sets but a wrestler can go in a jujitsu mat and smack jujitsu guys around. No jujitsu guy is doing that to a wrestler on a wrestler mat. Now put them against each other in a street fight and with the deadly takedowns from wrestling , a jujitsu guy won’t get up after the second double leg. No guard pull or triangle choke is going to withstand getting buried into the cement. Wrestling all day baby 🤼♂️🏆🤼♂️
I am sorry to say this but you realize that a jiu jitsu players like being on the ground right? So next time you say this a jiu jitsu player would destroy a wrestler because a wrestler is only trained to pin on the ground not to submit people on the ground
I do both, there is no single or double leg in jujitsu. So yes that guy that’s dominating is clearly a wrestler that joined jujitsu. He’s destroying why? Because he’s a wrestler. Ain’t no wrestler getting smacked in jujitsu. I have 2 months in jujitsu and all I needed to learn was the Americana and I’ve tapped 4 purple belts not to mention the white and blue belts. We’re just on another level sorry to tell you
@@djkid7427 another thing , I’m sorry to tell you but wrestling is a much more intense and brutal sport than jujitsu. I’ve tapped dudes with wrestling cradles due to the sheer pressure and head and arm pin locks where you use it in wrestling to immobilize your opponent for the pin but in jujitsu I’ve tapped them out with the pressure and not letting them breath. So yes, wrestling smacks. Ain’t no purple brown or black belt coming to the mats and beating me at wrestling 🤣
@@angeloescobar7617 Do you dislocate arms, did you break people’s feet they can destroy people by coming them, BJJ players are meant to be in the ground, that’s there happy place, I do BJJ and wrestling and BJJ is much more brutal then wrestling and this is BJJ vs BJJ btw
Pure Wrestlers that attain bjj knowledge are the deadliest grapplers. Especially in an actual fight or mma. Brutal combo. Wrestling is nearly useless once you already know bjj. But if your foundation is wrestling… the addition of bjj is lethal. I was rolling purples as soon as I learned a few basic submissions in my first two weeks! Personal experience I’m sure others are different but I hear mostly the same from others
Wrestling is never useless! It's literally the best base a person can have. But also, even if you start out learning BJJ and then transition to learning wrestling, you'll still gain very valuable knowledge and a skill set that will allow you to be so much more dominating against your opponents. Having a wrestling background and learning BJJ or having a BJJ background and learning wrestling, either way will allow you to become a very dangerous and dominant grappler
@@thunderkatz4219 no discipline? bro wrestlers are the toughest athletes ever. Mentally and physically draining. You can also argue that bjj doesn’t train against kicks either, or boxing, or any grappling sport. You tripping my g.
Literally all of the best fighters in MMA history from K1 to the UFC to Pride, you name it, almost every single long standing champion has been a wrestler. From GSP, to Rampage, Nurmagomedov, Cormier, Jones, You name it. Aside from literally a handful of guys all the most dominant fighters have been Wrestlers. Royce Gracie ran through guys when MMA first started, yeah, but he got absolutely destroyed by Sakuraba and Hughes, two wrestlers.
Completely agree, I’m not even a wrestler myself but when I grapple I always think position over submission which gives most jitz guys a hard time, pretty sure most wrestlers have that mentality
We had a white belt who was top 10 in state for wrestling. We knew he was a tank in training and would most likely win but we had to put him in white belt division to really see how he was technique wise
Agree. When you have the offense of a wrestler and the defense of BJJ. You’re going to be a beast in the ground. BJJ love to be on their back while wrestlers love to be on top. Plus having the aggressiveness of a wrestler and cool calm collected of BJJ is mental warfare.
As a jiu jitsu guy this was basically my first few experiences against wrestlers. They're strong, athletic and powerful AF - I think both sports can learn a lot from each other
Those are clearly beginning bjj students. The wrestlers are not beginners. As a bjj student years ago we would have open mat session. I was a one year bjj student and fought a Maryland UNIVERSITY junior wrestler. It was intense. But I rear naked choked him into submission. I’ll admit he pushed me to the limit. He was like captain America. But I got him. I’ll take a great bjj over a great wrestler any day.
Funny cuz I heel hook a d1 wrestler in 10 seconds my last comp at naga. Wrestlers are easy to predict and less technical. If ur a good jiu jitsu guy that actually lifts you should win
Yall even if it isnt a white belt they'll still get ragdolled cuz jiujutsu guys dont know any TK defence at all, they cant even perform a proper double leg.
as a wrestler who did juijitsu...a good blue to purple will put you in your place.. they are out there .and know many subs and chokes. martial arts is real it hurts and can leave you broken..but learn and open your mind.just a old highschool wrestling champ..and.bluebelt
It should say, “wrestler vs white belts” hahaha… I wanna see him doing that to a BJJ practitioner who has the same amount of time that he has in wrestling… he’s just a bully 🤷🏼♂️
As a wrestler myself, this type of wrestler makes the rest of us look bad. Aggression is good, but this kinda dude always trying to stick his nuts out even in drills for the sake of ego. Start injuring people and nobody wants to work with you, unless they're the same type cool with injuring in training and sparring
@@TCErnestowatch Royce Gracie vs ken shamrock 2 ( ufc 5 , 1995 ) . But I believe by then ken shamrock wasn’t a pure wrestler and had some bjj experience , but I’m not sure though.
@@Jordanthecool7eah except Ken lost the fight and weighed 40 pounds more than Royce during their first fight. I'm not joking, Royce's official weight for the event was 180 lbs Ken weighed in at 220 because it was an open weight tournament. The second fight was a case of more or less the same because it was still an open weight tournament.
The word “grappling” has morphed since I wrestled. The term was most relevant when we’d wrestle AAU/USA GRECO/Roman toured in high school off season. It mean essentially two standing wrestlers using upper body only who were maneuvering for upper body control and possibly subsequent throw or takedown. I’m not really sure what it means when I hear it in reference to a jiujitsu guy.
This is like a freshman wrestling tournament…😂😂😂 These BJJ guys need to learn how to sink their hips when a guy is behind them. That and a simple granby would help their world will open up. Also, some takedown defense wouldn’t hurt. 😂😂😂
