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If you would like to read more about the development of the Wright Flyer I have companion article on my website, available here:
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The Wright Brothers are often credited as being the inventors of flight, this isn't entirely true and I want to give some credit to the magnificent Otto Lilienthal, who gave his life in pursuit of flight.
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@RealEngineering
@RealEngineering 8 лет назад
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@RealEngineering 8 лет назад
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@economicurtis 8 лет назад
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@GGwinz 8 лет назад
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@RealEngineering 8 лет назад
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@vitorpereirafranco4595
@vitorpereirafranco4595 3 года назад
"that's not flying that's falling with style"- Woody to Wright Brothers
@p.kuansuwan2070
@p.kuansuwan2070 2 года назад
Wasn’t it Lightyear’s quote. I haven’t seen the movie for a long time.
@fire15aidenspencer72
@fire15aidenspencer72 11 месяцев назад
bros mad
@actorvijayofficial_68
@actorvijayofficial_68 Месяц назад
​@@p.kuansuwan2070nope woody says it's first when buzz think he's a space soldier
@p.kuansuwan2070
@p.kuansuwan2070 Месяц назад
@@actorvijayofficial_68 Ahh I see.
@polvoradelrey2423
@polvoradelrey2423 7 лет назад
Wright brothers did't invent flight, the invented the non-emergency landing XD
@Sebi076
@Sebi076 3 года назад
Ingles porfavor
@izaktheron2852
@izaktheron2852 3 года назад
Tell Ryan air about this type of landing!
@manishasaxena6657
@manishasaxena6657 2 года назад
the truth is plane was invented by shivkar talpade and a flight of 1500 feet in sky in 1895 but due he was indian he has no recognition in the world this world doesn't know the truth as it was buried by that time rulers britishers
@TheDankEngineer
@TheDankEngineer 2 года назад
@@manishasaxena6657 Classic nationalists, trying to claim other countries' achievements as their own. As an American, Santos Dumont was first.
@manishasaxena6657
@manishasaxena6657 2 года назад
@@TheDankEngineer shut up first search the history and then speak
@RV-qj6gm
@RV-qj6gm 5 лет назад
A red herring. The Wrights never claimed to have invented flight, just to have engineered the first successful heavier than air powered, sustained and controlled machine. The modern concept of flight was invented by George Cayley a century earlier and the Wrights both knew about Cayley and gave him credit.
@BIBIWCICC
@BIBIWCICC 6 месяцев назад
Gustav whitehead made twenty powered flights witnessed by the press and a lawyer three years before the “ claimed “ Wright brothers first flight.
@gilberto2056
@gilberto2056 3 месяца назад
You don't understand what the guy in the video is getting at. Plus, the Wright Bros. replicas. have already proven that they don't leave the ground
@Crlarl
@Crlarl 8 лет назад
_Birds_ invented flight. *duh* ;)
@RTPJu
@RTPJu 8 лет назад
Some dinosaurs could disagree lol
@Crlarl
@Crlarl 8 лет назад
Jugulador You mean Pterosaurs?
@RTPJu
@RTPJu 8 лет назад
Yeah, but a loot of people don't consider them dinosaurs. I should have used "insects" as an example of pre-birds flying creature.
@RTPJu
@RTPJu 8 лет назад
We are making tha'jokes... who's brains nedda getta straigta? And who did invented the jokes? The electrons, the gods or a lapse in time/space?
@Demongornot
@Demongornot 8 лет назад
Micro-organisms were the first living thing to get on the air, bur for controlled and powered flight, insects were the first. For Human, well Da Vinci had beautiful blueprint, and we've tested his parachute and his glider, both work. But there is things like the Ancien Egyptian Saqqara Bird, aerodynamic study shot that he work really well, and we also should not forget Vimana. Hot air balloon are before those "official" first gliders (for those who don't want to integrate Egyptian Gliders and Vimana into the equation), were the first human carrying flying machine made. But the first powered flight was made by Clément Ader 13 years before the Wright Brothers, also Gustave Whitehead may have 2 years before do a powered flight. No one really invented flight, it was a multiple steps process. First microbes to be on the air did not control anything, like simple dust particle, then probably some gliding/jumping insects that evolved into things able to do powered and controlled flight, then more complex organisms. Human have done the same (again omitting Vimana and Egyptian gliders) with hot air balloons were we simply float, then gliding, then powered, then controlled and then controlled powered. For both life and its living creature and humans technology, it was something done through a long process of doing a first initial step that was improved, and that both nature and our technology still improve today.
@viniciussabara2951
@viniciussabara2951 4 года назад
Wright brothers = angry birds Santos Dumont = air plane
@Felipe97264
@Felipe97264 3 года назад
Yesssss
@JustMe-cs9ku
@JustMe-cs9ku 3 года назад
No
@Shitpostdos4lsich4o
@Shitpostdos4lsich4o 3 года назад
exato
@Shitpostdos4lsich4o
@Shitpostdos4lsich4o 3 года назад
up
@zarc4d
@zarc4d 3 года назад
yes
@jasonbrown3632
@jasonbrown3632 2 года назад
Lilienthal did not invent flight...there are 4 aspects of flight that most be controlled for flight...pitch, roll, yaw, and thrust/drag, all airplanes including gliders control these 4 aspects, Lilienthal could only control 1 roll...the Wright Brothers were inspired by Lilienthal and started with his information but soon found out all his data was wrong, so they had to start from scratch, those leading them to wind tunnel test, kit tests, and glider tests...those the Wright Brothers are the first to have a full tested and proven aircraft that could control all 4 aspects of flight...
@altbob
@altbob 8 лет назад
To be fair, aviation scholars state that the Wright Bros. invented "powered, controlled, heavier than air flight." Without these modifiers, you have a dirigible or an uncontrolled glide, or a powered but uncontrolled leap. With them, you have an "airplane." And nothing less will do.
@henrylenzi4225
@henrylenzi4225 5 лет назад
If you need a track, a catapult, need a specific place to launch, with hills and strong frontal wind, and land crashing, that's not an airplane, is it? More like an awesome glider motor-powered glider. I wouldn't take such an "airplane". Would you?
@stevebett4947
@stevebett4947 4 года назад
@@henrylenzi4225 The first flight on Dec. 16 was on a 9% incline. The ones on Dec. 17 were on the level. They did need the 20+ mph head wind to achieve lift off with a weak 12 hp engine and no catapult. While the Wright Flyer I had wing warping and 3 axis control, neither pilot had quite figured out how to use it without crashing. The first flight may not have been " controlled" .
@boobio1
@boobio1 4 года назад
The Wright Brothers DID Invent the Airplane ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EkpQAGQiv4Q.html
@paulallen8109
@paulallen8109 4 года назад
altbob Others were working on heavier than air flight at the time and even before the Wright brothers. They happened to be the first but others worked independently and they would have figured it out soon enough - even in a scenario in which the Wright brothers simply give up/run out of money etc. "With them, you have an "airplane." And nothing less will do." Without them you'd still have an airplane sooner or later. The invention of their airplane was already believed to be possible, so the race was really who would make it work first.
@paulallen8109
@paulallen8109 4 года назад
@@boobio1 Nope, the invented a workable and somewhat "practical" (minus the catapult it needed for take off) airplane. It was clear to other pioneers even before them that you needed fixed wings for life and a propeller to drive the aircraft forward and that the internal combustion engine was the only one light enough to be practical.
@jsfbr
@jsfbr 7 лет назад
I suggest that you take a good look at Alberto Santos-Dumont's work.
@ivanthemadvandal8435
@ivanthemadvandal8435 2 года назад
Yeah, if want to to know how not to make an airplane.
@sarcasmo9527
@sarcasmo9527 2 года назад
yes, the real creator of the plane
@vincedhilandulay7798
@vincedhilandulay7798 2 года назад
@@sarcasmo9527 no
@sarcasmo9527
@sarcasmo9527 2 года назад
@@vincedhilandulay7798 yes
@vincedhilandulay7798
@vincedhilandulay7798 2 года назад
@@sarcasmo9527 no
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 2 года назад
I mean when people refer to flight they almost always mean powered and controlled flight in a full-scale manned aircraft, and they did invent that. Or at least, they made it work first.
@garyhochstetler7082
@garyhochstetler7082 Год назад
They invented it. Stop trying to soften the facts for their feelings.
@bliglum
@bliglum 7 лет назад
Your animation of wing warping at 1:10 is incorrect and misleading. Wing warping didn't bend the entire wing up and down like that, it twisted the wing about it's length.
@westfield5264
@westfield5264 7 лет назад
bliglum very true...wing warping twisted the length of the wing...thank you for pointing this out.
@stevebett4947
@stevebett4947 4 года назад
This comment is worse than some of the uninformed opinions posted by Brazilians. Dumont's 14-bis borrowed from the Australian who perfected the box kite. His ailerons were probably inspired by Cayley's work. Can you think of anything he copied from the Wrights? I think wing warping used on his Demoiselle 19 was borrowed from the Wrights
@sonhomeu1541
@sonhomeu1541 4 года назад
Wing warping system it was tested by Eduard gallaudet in 1896. New York. This already existed.
@cidobahiaimaginacaoetudo1087
@cidobahiaimaginacaoetudo1087 5 месяцев назад
@@stevebett4947 We can talk about the 14bis, but all the planes were made from the Demoiselle, as Santos Dumont offered his patents for the world to advance in aviation studies and yes, I am a big fan of the Wright brothers and recognize the great importance that they and others had to the world of aviation.
@stevebett4947
@stevebett4947 5 месяцев назад
@@sonhomeu1541 Wing warping was tested by Eduard Gallaudet in 1896. This already existed. SB: The Wrights were not the first to invent Wing Warping. Gallaudet's work, however, was not generally known and was not discovered by those that approved the Wright patent. Check Wikipedia for more detail on Edson Gallaudet, Yale graduate and had a Ph.D. in engineering. He was one of the first to learn how to fly in a 2 place Wright biplane. He may have had the opportunity to tell Orv. that had invented Wing Warping but didn't. I had the idea that one of the Wrights might have been his teacher. His models were different than the Wright Flyer but the principle was the same. Edson F. Gallaudet was the first person to experiment with warped wings in 1896, and in 1898 he built a warping-wing kite to test his invention of a warping-wing mechanism; this kite survives and is on display in the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, D.C. In 1911 he obtained US pilot's license No. 32 with the Aero Club of America, flying a Wright biplane in Garden City, New York.
@johnmark6628
@johnmark6628 3 года назад
There is quite a difference between flying and gliding.
@tempestandacomputer6951
@tempestandacomputer6951 2 года назад
In the earliest stages of design, there really wasn't a difference. Sure getting off the ground isn't the same, but control of an airborne entity carried the same principles.
@funquay2219
@funquay2219 2 года назад
Or falling with style!
@melonenstrauch1306
@melonenstrauch1306 2 года назад
So would you argue that modern gliders aren't planes just because they don't provide thrust?
@madhukarjonathanminj2772
@madhukarjonathanminj2772 2 года назад
@@melonenstrauch1306 yes,they aren't planes, that's why the word "glider"
@udontneedtoknowmyname
@udontneedtoknowmyname 2 года назад
@@melonenstrauch1306 Yes
@przemog88
@przemog88 2 года назад
Channel: Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles Video: The Wright Brothers DID Invent the Airplane Watch this and learn how Wright brothers constructed first airplane.
@donalso
@donalso 8 лет назад
Of course the Wright Brothers didn't invent flight. Icarus did. Wasn't too good at it, but he was the man. That Sun, melanoma and failed flight plans!
@westfield5264
@westfield5264 7 лет назад
Don Carmen that is some funny shit my friend!! LMAO
@donalso
@donalso 7 лет назад
laughing is good. I try to as much as possible.
@adoringfan6995
@adoringfan6995 4 года назад
It was daedalus, his father actually
@futuregoals6718
@futuregoals6718 2 года назад
No mumbai man Talpade did in 1896
@donalso
@donalso 2 года назад
@@futuregoals6718 Actually it was Timothy Leary.
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 Год назад
Wright Brothers experimented with Lillienthal type gliders and learned to build them, to improve them, and to fly them successfully, mastering the many variables in glider flight. Then with the advent of the lighter weight Internal combustion engines built a glider that could not only continue flying when the hill ran out, but not need a hill at all or better yet, take off and go higher than any hill. They were the first to truly successfully do that. No matter how many other people's inventions they used in combination to accomplish this. They showed that ' heavier than air ' craft flying was much more than just building a machine. They started the first ' flying school ' for the new machines. They couldn't just sell them at the local Sears outlet.
@Kneedragon1962
@Kneedragon1962 7 лет назад
Excellent video. As an Australian, don't worry about the accent, it's fine. A point that most people miss, when looking at this, is the Wright Brothers were the first to get it working. They weren't the first people to have these ideas. As stated, there was Otto Linthall, but many others, including Leonardo Da Vinci, at least sketched up machines to do this. Nobody 'invented' flight, birds and bats and flies were already doing it. The trick was to figure out how they did it and then either copy that, or work out alternatives. The other thing people tend to overlook, about 110 years later, is that the Wright Brothers were one (rather small and poorly funded) team, who were attempting this. There were at least a dozen other individuals or teams working on the same problem, at the same time, in various places around the world, and they all watched the newspapers and prayed the other guys ran into trouble, so they'd be the first... Everybody knew, we're very close, somebody is going to get this right very soon. Many had tens of times, perhaps hundreds of times more money and resources than a pair of brother bicycle mechanics...
@thefpvlife7785
@thefpvlife7785 8 лет назад
Misleading title. They are credited for the 1st powered flight.
@thefpvlife7785
@thefpvlife7785 8 лет назад
I think first powered flight. Several men flew gliders before the wright brothers.
@casfox
@casfox 2 года назад
The Wright bros invented powered flight. Otto invented the hang glider.
@CasamTheAnimator
@CasamTheAnimator Год назад
Nope, he didn't, the inventor of flight is Abbas Ibn Firnas, he invented flight in year 875.
@BUSIWXJDJJBSJJD
@BUSIWXJDJJBSJJD Год назад
Errado .quem inventou o vôo motorizado foi Santos Dumont
@rofallen
@rofallen 4 месяца назад
12hp is impossible to fly
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
​@@CasamTheAnimatorThere were no engines for powered flight in 875AD. Use your brain
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
​@@BUSIWXJDJJBSJJDNope, the Wright brothers flew 3 years before Dumont and the first flight was without a catapult
@LordAverius
@LordAverius 8 лет назад
Well I see in the comment section, every culture has its own legendary glider, you may also check a this guy from 17th centruy Cosntantinople, Ottoman Empire, Hezârfen Ahmed Çelebi who leaped from Galata Tower and glided over the bosphorus and landed succesfuly on Asian side. And it's a shame, after the flight, he considered as a possesed man and exiled from the realm by Sultan.
@philhewett1601
@philhewett1601 3 года назад
Religious beliefs seem to have a way of slowing progress down.
@danieldbdb
@danieldbdb 3 года назад
A glider is different than an airplane.
@Voyager-mc8lg
@Voyager-mc8lg 3 года назад
@@danieldbdb however...the glider is flying,also the distance between European side of Istanbul and asian side .it's pretty big
@danieldbdb
@danieldbdb 3 года назад
@@Voyager-mc8lg I know gliders can fly.
@matheusvasconcelos9184
@matheusvasconcelos9184 3 года назад
after 4 year im reading some true knowledge from a part of the world i reaaly dont have much information about, thank you so much for spreading this.
@diogpapafundior2788
@diogpapafundior2788 6 лет назад
Santos Dumont is unique.
@boobio1
@boobio1 4 года назад
The Wright Brothers DID Invent the Airplane ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EkpQAGQiv4Q.html
@joaofabio5927
@joaofabio5927 4 года назад
@@boobio1 the Chinese people fly BEFORE all... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e47j9O52h3I.html
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
Except yhe didn't invent airplanes. The Wright brothers did
@Felipe97264
@Felipe97264 8 лет назад
Who invented de flight? The brazilian guy Santos dumont, not the Wright brothers
@cdralda
@cdralda 8 лет назад
+Bacon Canadense The brazilian guy made his flight way too late. Years after the wright brothers. The Wright brothers had footage and hundreds of witnesses by the time he made his first flight.
@masteroflife4667
@masteroflife4667 8 лет назад
+Teste pra ver até onde Eu posso fazer meu nome Shout Up! If Wikipedia says it was a Bird, than it was a MOTHERFUCKING BIRD!
@masteroflife4667
@masteroflife4667 8 лет назад
+Teste pra ver até onde Eu posso fazer meu nome Correct.
@Goku-hn6ni
@Goku-hn6ni 8 лет назад
only(majority) brazilians know this part of the history, but americans are americans you know...
@RaimarLunardi
@RaimarLunardi 8 лет назад
+Goku France officially recognize it too... (not invention of flight, The First Airplane Flight with it's own power)
@MCPOSJ117films
@MCPOSJ117films 5 лет назад
That wasn't flying, that was falling with style.
@hyzercreek
@hyzercreek Год назад
Dumont fell without style
@howtodobyanidiot595
@howtodobyanidiot595 Год назад
@@hyzercreek Well he almost died when he flew a 2nd time
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
yes, gliders aren't airplanes. It's a controlled fall
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
​@@hyzercreekDumont flew 3 years after the Wright Brothers had already invented the airplane which didn't use a catapult until 1904
@hyzercreek
@hyzercreek 4 месяца назад
@@WaukWarrior360 You are correct
@mavericklane6206
@mavericklane6206 Год назад
The Wright Brothers invented powered flight which carried a person, but also invented the three main controls of flight. Gliders were around for awhile but not very successful. The Wright Brothers were first to the finish line.
@chrismofer
@chrismofer 2 года назад
1:16 that's not exactly how wing warping works per your diagram. the dihedral/anhedral angle doesn't change. but rather the angle of incidence does. the leading edge rises and trailing edge drops a little, so the airfoil encounters the air at a higher angle. the spar thru the wing is much too strong to bend like your diagram indicates. also 1:29 the whole elevator box doesn't rotate but rather the top and bottom surfaces each rotate on their own axis and the linkages in between connect the surfaces to the chain/lever and the mountings poke thru the bottom surface to mount it to the airframe. Yaw was linked to roll so it always made roughly coordinated turns.
@philhewett1601
@philhewett1601 3 года назад
Point well made. Lilienthal did, indeed, make significant advances in understanding wing shape but, without the Wright brothers' developments and their home grown engineering skills flight, as we know it, would not have happen when it did.
@cleitevieira
@cleitevieira 8 лет назад
The most impressive fact about this video is the fact that it does not even cite the Brazilian Santos Dumont and its 14-Bis, the first airplane to take off by its own.
@JOSEFRAJOLA
@JOSEFRAJOLA 6 лет назад
Without the catapult and railway tracks they couldn't fly!
@doorhanger9317
@doorhanger9317 6 лет назад
No, in fact they did it several times. They also flew for 20 miles around in a circle before Dumont even made the 14-bis, which I find hard to credit to a catapult. The catapult was simply designed to allow them to take off safer and in a shorter distance, and was only invented after they had taken many flights already, including the first ever sustained, powered flight back in 1903. Yes, the catapult was only invented years after the wright brothers invented the first working aeroplane. The evidence is out there, and the only country in the world to officially claim that the wright brothers weren't the first to fly is Brazil, not even your south american neighbors. I wonder why? Face it, the whole Dumont paradigm is just a remnant of old nationalistic policies that nobody remembered to fix.
@abcdefghijk6752
@abcdefghijk6752 6 лет назад
doorhanger93 Agreed. The Wright Brothers pioneered an Axis flight control system, something Dumont didn't have. Also, even though they used a catapult (for obvious reasons. No wheels lol) it could still stay in flight under its own power. Of course, don't tell the angry Brazilians/ French this.
@kvltizt
@kvltizt 6 лет назад
ABCDE FGHIJK French agree that Wright Bros. did it first though. At least their aeronautical organizations do.
@cwdor
@cwdor 5 лет назад
LIE
@EoinDineen
@EoinDineen 8 лет назад
Your videos are pleasing to the eye and the animations are smooth. Keep it up
@RealEngineering
@RealEngineering 8 лет назад
+Eoin Dineen Thanks Eoin. Really really appreciate the support.
@junisaraiva6219
@junisaraiva6219 7 лет назад
On 12 November 1906 Santos-Dumont set the first world record recognized by the Federation Aeronautique Internationale, by flying 220 metres (722 ft) in 21.5 seconds
@archdornan1722
@archdornan1722 2 года назад
So?
@ivofreitass
@ivofreitass 2 года назад
@Silent Discourse Wright Brothers used a catapulta to fly. That wasnt an airplane, was some kind of a glider. Santos Dumont used engineering the plane itself to fly and land. Fully documented. The first airplane, as we know nowadays, was the Santos Dumont's 14-Bis. But of course, people from USA are retardad and historically illiterate, geographically illiterate.
@nicewall8311
@nicewall8311 2 года назад
Can't be a "glider" if it flew for 39 minutes. The reason Brazilians think Dumont did it is because Brazil continues to push it in their schooling systems. Very few people outside Brazil actually credit him with the first powered flight. It was probably Richard Pearce, in all honesty.
@josevitorag
@josevitorag 2 года назад
@Silent Discourse angry birds isn't flight
@nickthompson318
@nickthompson318 2 года назад
@@nicewall8311 Richard Pearce said himself that his craft never flew and acknowledged they Wrights were first and better.
@machia-mw1lm
@machia-mw1lm 7 лет назад
In grade school it was told that the Wright Bothers invented the airplane . That's called simplification . A closer look at most things shows that ideas are built on other ideas and sometimes it is ONE idea in combination with many other ideas that makes a breakthrough .
@ichbinzirkel
@ichbinzirkel 7 лет назад
machia0705 It propably depends on the country you live in. I, as a German, have been taught that Lilienthal invented it.
@machia-mw1lm
@machia-mw1lm 7 лет назад
Hallo ! I'm German-American . Ja , the Wrights studied Otto's gliders and improved on them . Otto paved the way . Brilliant men , Otto , Wilbur and Orville .
@Box_plot
@Box_plot 5 лет назад
In Brazil grade School told its Santos Dumont
@ordemeprogresso727
@ordemeprogresso727 4 года назад
I am german as well, wright brothers invented powered air-glider, but i have to admit that Dumont was first airplane builder, we germans invented the very first car, Automobil.
@greg4081
@greg4081 4 года назад
i'm brazilian and I've been told Santos Drumount invented the airplane since i was 5. I clicked on this video because I didn't even know who was the Wright Brothers
@BarbarossaTheOcean
@BarbarossaTheOcean 7 лет назад
What about Hezârfen Ahmed Çelebi?
@IDigAPony
@IDigAPony 5 лет назад
(Gotta say, your Real Engineering posts are some of my favorites on RU-vid. I can't thank you enough. The following is geared more toward many of the commentators here than anything) I'm not sure the term "invented" really applies to flight. It's not unlike saying Benjamin Franklin invented electricity. With respect to the Wright brothers, what they did, and are properly credited for, is being the first people to successfully invent, build and fly a self-powered heavier than air machine that was capable of sustained controlled flight. (They were in the air for over five minutes by 1904) Those who think the brothers, Lilienthal or Dumont invented flight probably think that Frankenstein was the name of the creature from Mary Shelly's book of the same name. Llienthal was the first to design, build and fly a heavier than air controlled "craft" if you will. The Wright brothers drew EXTENSIVELY from his work. As I stated previously the Wright brothers were the first to successfully invent, build and fly a self-powered heavier than air machine that was capable of sustained controlled flight. Alberto Santos Dumont was the first to invent, build and fly a self-powered heavier than air machine that was capable of a unassisted takeoff and sustained controlled flight. Alberto Santos Dumont contribution to modern aeronautic design cannot be overstated. The man was clearly a genius who is consistently vastly underrepresented in the history of flight. He stands shoulder to shoulder with the greatest people in the history of aviation. If you are really interested in the subject I HIGHLY recommend The Wright Brothers by David McCullough. It is incredibly well researched and very interesting. My family and I listened to it while driving from our home in Westchester NY to... Kitty Hawk N.C. Then onto Titusville FL. Quite the aviation/space trip. We were going to see my mother-in-law. (She flies a broom.KIDDING!!) As far as my outlook I was VERY PROUD that in the movie about Neil Armstrong they didn't show the flag being planted. He represented the earth, our home. I don;t think the moonshot was an American feat. America supposedly prides itself on being a melting pot but claims they/we somehow are separate from the rest of the world in these situations. The success of the Apollo missions were due to Brazilians, Irish, Polish, English, Scottish, German, Japanese, Chinese, Australians, French, Spanish, Russians...(I'm writing these as they occur, in no greater or lesser degree of contribution) and all the nationalities who live in America and worked for all the different companies that were contracted to build the ships and engineer the missions. I can't feel as much pride for America alone as I can for the people from countries all over the world who lived in America and worked on this effort. I think of it as the milestone that it is and that was performed by humans.
@stevebett4947
@stevebett4947 4 года назад
In 1903, the Wright brothers probably thought of the flight of their prototype a successful proof of concept. Although the design was capable of controlled flight, I don't think this was actually achieved until 1905. Flight isn't something that a person can invent. You have to add qualifiers.
@BlindingGlow
@BlindingGlow 4 года назад
I always find it funny, that when Americans create amazing technological feats, it's a "human feat". But when anywhere else does something great, it's a British/German/Italian etc feat. F*ck that sh*t. And f*ck you for contributing to that bullsh*t.
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
Nope, the weight brothers first flight was without a catapult and they usually didn't use one. They invented the airplane 3 years before Dumont first flew
@mohamedkhalaf6791
@mohamedkhalaf6791 2 года назад
Fact: Abbas ibn fernas managed to fly in the 9th century in the city of Cordoba in al Andalus (Muslim Spain), He even flew for a time but he fell and went to the hospital. the reason that he focused so much on how to fly but he didn't think about how he is gonna land.
@seraphina985
@seraphina985 8 лет назад
It's usually the way with inventions the one that gets the credit ends up being the one that solves the final piece of the puzzle to make a useful machine. The real story of any complex invention goes back through the achievements of a whole bunch of great engineers and scientists. Flight is all coming from a string of lessons throughout the history of transport, hell even the wing designs of biplanes remind me of suspension bridges with the rods and wires stabilising the bottom span with the upper span.
@ronald3836
@ronald3836 6 месяцев назад
We all stand on the shoulders of giant Isaac Newton.
@vitorvasconcelos1383
@vitorvasconcelos1383 6 лет назад
Ei brasileiros vamos largar o dedo no dislike pois esse vídeo nem sequer citou Santos Dumont, o verdadeiro pai da aviação 🇧🇷
@anadasha2732
@anadasha2732 5 лет назад
Vai tomar no cu
@psm-9596
@psm-9596 5 лет назад
@@anadasha2732 Clbc
@bigb0ss282
@bigb0ss282 4 года назад
Odeio a situação do nosso país, mas NÃO se pode negar: *Santos Dumont é o PAI da aviação.*
@marcoscamara6740
@marcoscamara6740 3 года назад
Também acho. Santos Dumont father of aviation!!
@sirius1101
@sirius1101 3 года назад
@@anadasha2732 Piranha
@k.chriscaldwell4141
@k.chriscaldwell4141 5 лет назад
Now, what provides two-thirds to three-quarters of the energy utilized to sustain flight?
@0xEmmy
@0xEmmy 7 лет назад
In other words, they didn't invent the glider, just the powered aeroplane and the control surface.
@diogpapafundior2788
@diogpapafundior2788 6 лет назад
The U.S. Army rejected a proposal from the Wrights on the basis that their machine's ability to fly had not been demonstrated. Thus, when Alberto Santos-Dumont made a brief flight that year in his 14-Bis aeroplane, there was no acknowledged antecedent and he was acclaimed in France and elsewhere as the first to fly
@RV-qj6gm
@RV-qj6gm 5 лет назад
The Army's rejection of a proposal isn't relevant at all. It just proves how slow the government was to accept a new invention.
@chopchop7938
@chopchop7938 5 лет назад
Chuckling...no, wrong palsy. He was the first to fly in Europe, several years AFTER the Wright brothers. Get your facts straight jackass
@henrylenzi4225
@henrylenzi4225 5 лет назад
@@chopchop7938 Get YOUR facts straight! First of all, it was not "several years", it was 1906. The first model of the Wright Brothers that needn't need to be CATAPULTED was the 1909 model. I'm not even the one saying this. Here, watch this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_P_I4XIpf3w.html
@mikebronicki6978
@mikebronicki6978 5 лет назад
Wrights flew 852ft in 1903 Dumont flew 197ft in 1906 That's a weak case for Dumont.
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 4 года назад
@Velocinox To be fair that's mostly because there was a more diverse ownership of slaves, more diverse cast of slave catchers, managers, etc. Much like the anti-european agenda in talk of the Belgian Congo where the brutality was mostly carried out by blacks against other blacks
@NWA744
@NWA744 2 года назад
Nobody claims the Wright Brothers invented flight itself, they are credited with the first POWERED* flight. An important distinction.
@NWA744
@NWA744 Год назад
@@brentsrx7 Are you implying the Wright flyer was equivalent to a hot air balloon?
@impulsivereply9360
@impulsivereply9360 2 года назад
Did Otto start at a higher point to slowly fall down or did he leave a lower point to sustain flight falling with style
@HeavyMoonshine19
@HeavyMoonshine19 Год назад
His experiments used a hill that was made specifically for it, so yes, he used a downwards slope
@frailschnitzel7637
@frailschnitzel7637 8 лет назад
your videos are very easy to understand and watch, thanks!
@dodaexploda
@dodaexploda 8 лет назад
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Yes they took up the torch after Otto. In fact they were admirers of his. It was his death that made them work on flight. But in their testing they found Otto's lift data was straight up wrong. While Otto pioneered a lot of stuff, the Wright brothers had to go back to the drawing board on many things. They had to re-write Ottto's work. Hence a lot of their home made wind tunnel tests and kite tests at Kitty hawk. They had to do so much fundamental testing and work that I would credit them with the creation of flight. With Otto giving them a very good point in the right direction.
@9999AWC
@9999AWC 3 года назад
@brasileiros Silva No. The Wright Flyer I performed 4 flights in the same day before it crashed. Then the Wright Brothers built the Wright Flyer II, which did 105 flights in 1904, including the first full circle in flight. Then they perfected their design with the Wright Flyer III, which in 1905 performed flights of over 20 minutes routinely, and even flew for 39 minutes on one occasion.
@9999AWC
@9999AWC 3 года назад
@brasileiros Silva Yes, they have photographic evidence, diaries, they even had a patent for control surfaces. Stop being so petty. Sincerely, a MIFR commercial pilot who's main hobby is studying aviation history.
@9999AWC
@9999AWC 3 года назад
@brasileiros Silva Also, let me add the fact that the Fédération aéronautique internationale (FIA) was not formed until 1905, AFTER the Wright Brothers' flight, which means it was impossible for them to evaluate anyone before Santos-Dumont. Additionally, since then, the FIA officially recognizes the Wright Brothers as being first, DESPITE giving the prize to Dumont. "Keen cyclists, the Wright brothers opened their own bicycle sales and repairs shop before using what they had learned building bikes to take on the world of flight. They went on to achieve the first ever flights in a powered plane in 1903, and were also the inventors of the first passenger-carrying plane." As quoted from www.fai.org/news/fai-celebrates-120th-anniversary-wright-brothers-first-biplane-kite-taking-flight
@9999AWC
@9999AWC 3 года назад
@brasileiros Silva Detailed diaries: www.loc.gov/collections/wilbur-and-orville-wright-papers/about-this-collection/ Negatives (pictures): www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/wri/ In 1905 flights of 20 minutes was standard, and they even flew almost 40 minutes: www.wright-brothers.org/Information_Desk/Just_the_Facts/Airplanes/Wright_Airplanes.htm Santos was not first, but was far more influential: www.wright-brothers.org/History_Wing/History_of_the_Airplane/Who_Was_First/Santos_Dumont/Santos_Dumont.htm Also, Gustav Whitehead may actually have been first, as recognized by Jane's All Over The World Aircraft (a well respected aviation publisher): www.wright-brothers.org/History_Wing/History_of_the_Airplane/Who_Was_First/Gustav_Whitehead/Gustav_Whitehead.htm The FAA, Transport Canada, EASA, and of course ICAO (you know, the international body in charge of aviation WORLDWIDE) recognize the Wright Brothers as being first.
@9999AWC
@9999AWC 3 года назад
@brasileiros Silva I'm French Canadian. I've been all over Europe, USA, Mexico, and Africa. ONLY Brazil considers Santos-Dumont as being first, much like some other countries claims one of theirs was first: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_the_first_powered_flight Again, this is literally what I do on my spare time when I'm not actually flying. You've provided no sources nor proof that Santos was first. The only reason Brazilians dismiss the Wright Brothers is because of the method of take-off (which, by the way does NOT affect the definition of powered, heavier-than-air flight), and you're ignoring the fact that Santos remained in ground effect on his short hop, and that his flight was not controlled effectively. Meanwhile, a year prior the Wright Brothers already had patents, and were flying hundreds of flights, one even being 39 minutes. The problem is that you don't want to accept something that contradicts your belief. It's like a flat earther that no matter how much proof you give him he'll never change his stance. And the thing is, chances are Gustav Whitehead may have even beaten the Wright Brothers (though Whitehead himself didn't think he was first, as he said he didn't fly effectively until 1904, which by that point the Wright Flyer II was already flying). Hell, I bet you don't even know who invented the aileron (you'd understand the importance of this control surface back then if you studied history and aerodynamics), or that the Wright Brothers had to significantly rework Otto Lilienthal's aerodynamic data because of many flaws. There's far more to this than you think man.
@junisaraiva6219
@junisaraiva6219 7 лет назад
14-BIS - This apparel, set in motion by a Levavasseur motor, of 50 H.P., was a 10 meters size and 12 meters span, and it had 160 kilograms of weight. On September 13, 1906, at Bagatelle camp, 14-bis made a short flew of 8 meters. Captain Ferber wrote in his book “Aviation”: “At 4:45 p.m, in front of an aviation commission, his airplane departed, softly and shock less. The crowd, amazed, was under the impression of a miracle...” On October 23, 1906 SD was awarded the Archdeacon Cup, he flew 60 meters with his own resources (25 meters was the height stipulated for the competition). This time the crowd became dumb and soon after clapped their hands, hats were thrown above, delirium in the air. The worldwide newspapers published in their headline: “A memorable minute of the air navigation “(L’Illustration), “The first mechanical flight of men” (Herald). On November 12, 1906 Santos Dumont achieves the 220-meter flight, thus establishing the first record of world air navigation and being awarded the prize of the French Air Club, which later on built granite marc of 2-meter height to perpetuate the great achievements of the inventor.
@JM-ib9kb
@JM-ib9kb 2 года назад
All this proves is that in 1906, the French were completely ignorant and/or unbelieving of what was going on the the US since 1903. What opened their eyes was the 1908 Wright flight in France, essentially the same plane the Wrights have been flying for 3 years, that flew for over 38,000 meters, 39 minutes in 1905 in front of 100's of American people and reporters. Even the ridiculous catapult argument was put to bed in 1908, which still seems to be alive and well in Brazil to this day.
@sanpol4399
@sanpol4399 2 года назад
@@JM-ib9kb Dose de realidade: Você já viu alguma réplica de qualquer Flyer voar de de forma contínua , sem perder enegia após cessado o auxílio externo?
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
​@@sanpol4399Dose of education: The Wright Brothers first flight was unassisted and they did not use a catapult until 1904. They invented the airplane 3 years before Dumont first flew
@sanpol4399
@sanpol4399 3 месяца назад
@@WaukWarrior360 dose of reality again. Do you have some proof? No, you just talk like a parrot man. Present a single proff about any Fyer flight before 1908 and I change my mind.
@Silverarmydogs
@Silverarmydogs 8 лет назад
Awesome video! I liked and subbed, I came from a reddit post from /r/videos, Good luck on your youtube adventures and keep up the good work!
@diogpapafundior2788
@diogpapafundior2788 6 лет назад
Read the original fai records about first motorized flights. SANTOS DUMONT in first.
@gilbertonedeljunior4825
@gilbertonedeljunior4825 6 лет назад
Born 20 July 1873 in state of Minas Gerais, Alberto Santos Dumont moved to Paris in 1891 but never forgot his birthplace. He soon began experimenting with flying, and designed his first balloon, the Brasil, in 1898. He later built and flew 11 dirigibles, including the prize-winning Number 6. He flew his first airplane, the 14-bis, on October 1906, the first aircraft to take off and land without any external assistance(*). His many other contributions to aviation included his 1907 Demoiselle, the precursor to modern light airplanes. He returned definitely to Brazil in 1931 and died in 1932”. AIAA declaration in honor of SANTOS DUMONT centennial
@brentsrx7
@brentsrx7 2 года назад
A semi-controlled glide down a hill without yaw control is not flight. Hence why Lilienthal died. The Wright brothers were the first to control a glide in all axis of rotation. Additionally, they were the first to sustain actual "flight" by overcoming the forces of gravity with an engine.
@gghhhfghgh
@gghhhfghgh Год назад
Como foram os primeiros? Se os Wright só voaram em 1908? Kkkkkk
@unprofound
@unprofound 8 лет назад
Keep going RE, the videos are great!
@blackhairedgoon8218
@blackhairedgoon8218 6 лет назад
Why does the wings being at an angle increase or decrease lift?
@danieldbdb
@danieldbdb 3 года назад
It must be stated that the evidence to the Wright Brothers' claims of flying in 1903 was scant and they denied every request to prove their claims in public until 1908. In that year, at the french airclub, it happened the first death in the history of aviation. Lt Thomas Selfridge died after the glider Flyer had a broken helix. Orville Wright had a broken leg and several broken ribs. Alberto Santos Dumont flew flawlessly in 1906, without rails, catapult or any external assistance. Therefore, under any circumstances that could not be considered gliding.
@peterson7082
@peterson7082 3 года назад
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@archdornan1722
@archdornan1722 2 года назад
The Wright brothers didn't use "external assistance" to fly their 1903 Flyer. Your point is wrong, get over it.
@arthurlunar7835
@arthurlunar7835 2 года назад
@@archdornan1722 They used a catapult.
@archdornan1722
@archdornan1722 2 года назад
@@arthurlunar7835 In Ohio they did, not in 1903 at Kitty Hawk.
@arthurlunar7835
@arthurlunar7835 2 года назад
@@archdornan1722 yes they did in 1903
@RenatoYamamoto481
@RenatoYamamoto481 8 лет назад
what about santos drumont?
@AG-Consulting
@AG-Consulting 8 лет назад
www.quora.com/It-is-commonly-claimed-that-the-Wright-brothers-invented-aircraft-however-it-has-also-been-claimed-that-Santos-Dumont-did-Who-invented-the-first-aircraft
@AG-Consulting
@AG-Consulting 8 лет назад
Santos Dumont is the father of aviation, but not the first to fly.
@polecat987
@polecat987 8 лет назад
+André Garcia That quora answer is correct and I agree with it. Initially Dumont was the first man to officially fly a heavier than air craft. His flight was witnessed by FIA (Ferderation Aeronautique Internatinale) representatives who initially gave him credit for that. The Wright brothers worked in private and the official evidence that certified they actually beat Dumont was a telegram they sent saying they achieved controlled powered flight. The French doubted the Wright brothers flew until they saw the machine themselves. Even though this happened I still regard France as the place were aviation was born.
@RTPJu
@RTPJu 8 лет назад
W. Brothers united different ideas in a VIABLE format that, with obvious evolution, show the world how to built an aircraft. They are the true inventors of the aircraft as an VIABLE idea. That gives to them the credit... but it must be a shared credit, because a lot o people, since Italian Renascence, contributed a lot to make it viable, even in powered flight (more than 50 years early). Still, it is a remarkable thing they made just to came with their concept... and I´m not judging that the thing flied (because it don't flied more than shit out of a bird's ass). Santos Dumont (no "r") was the guy who made the first functional airplane. Period. "Oh, is it a small thing"? No, it is a huge thing. But the two episodes prove very different things about Dumont and Whight. The yanke fellas made a most valuable scientific work, but Dumont was a way better designer. Indeed, the Brazilian lad is famous by a lot of very intelligent and diversified designs... from heavy than air fly machines to agricultural hardware, the guy was a very inventive genius. The problem is that US, Brazil and France tells this history with nationalistic interests and no compromise with the History itself. The prof of this is that the aircraft history is a very big subject with a lot of important people involved, but in schools, movies and even literature is used to be told a very biased and simplified version of all the facts. Aircrafts are more like a collective work result than an individual merit of whoever should be. Cheers!
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo 8 лет назад
great link
@accounteasy91
@accounteasy91 8 лет назад
Din't anyone notice that the coordinate system used is a left hand system which is not the standard
@georgecayley3435
@georgecayley3435 Год назад
Have you forgotten Sir George Cayley who discovered the elements of flight and aerodynamics.
@diogpapafundior2788
@diogpapafundior2788 6 лет назад
Santos Dumont the first fai record for motorized flight. wright brothers eight place in official fai records. 1908
@tsmgguy
@tsmgguy 5 лет назад
Alberto Santos Dumont made the first flight in front of a crowd on September 7th, 1906. His 14 Bis was incapable of turns. The Wrights conducted and photographed their first manned, powered, controlled flight on December 17th, 1903. The FAI didn't yet exist, because aviation itself didn't come into existence until that very day.
@lemeilleurpourlafrance7946
@lemeilleurpourlafrance7946 4 года назад
@@tsmgguy Dumont invented airplanes wright brothers perfected it.
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
Those are French records. It's internationally recognized that the Wright Brothers first flew in 1903 without a catapult. 3 years before Dumont
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
​@@lemeilleurpourlafrance7946No, the Wright brothers factually invented airplanes 3 years before Dumont
@andyjwagner
@andyjwagner 8 лет назад
The Wright Brothers didn't "improve on" Otto Lilienthal's experimental lift data--they invalidated it and replaced it. They invented the wind tunnel and lift balance techniques to derive the first accurate lift coefficients ever applied to the problem of flight. And doing so was a prerequisite to solving the problem of control, just as solving the problem of control was a prerequisite to solving the propulsion problem. The Wrights were far ahead of anybody in these three areas of innovation. The Wright's invention is generally defined as "controlled, powered, heavier than air, flight", to distinguish them from the long line of balloonists who preceded them, but to suggest Lilienthal solve the problem of lift before them is not accurate.
@betaich
@betaich 7 лет назад
Lol check you're facts. The wind tunnel is far older than the Wrights. First wind tunnels where used in the 1700.
@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831
@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831 7 лет назад
betaich Francis Wenham.
@logankotz6851
@logankotz6851 7 лет назад
how when it wasn't invented until 1843?
@gilbertonedeljunior4825
@gilbertonedeljunior4825 6 лет назад
Andrew Wagner - the invention of wind tunel, Paris, france.
@aeromagnumtv1581
@aeromagnumtv1581 6 лет назад
Very good and important historical information. I too learned if this recently. Great stuff indeed!👍🇺🇸💪
@stevebett4947
@stevebett4947 4 года назад
Your account seems to have been suspended. Can you provide a new link?
@skk20I
@skk20I 8 лет назад
Great visuals. It help a lot to understand for people that have idea of aeronautics. You're. On the right way to become a great chanel :)
@festol1
@festol1 8 лет назад
The Wright Brothers made a valid contribution to the flight research. But, Santos Dumont made a far greater contribution for the flight research than the Wright brothers. Dam, even the Moon has a crate named after Santos Dumont.
@markriobr
@markriobr 7 лет назад
Also The wrist Cartier watch . A model named Dumont that never went out of line . Go in any Cartier jewelry magazine and The Dumont gold watch still there for sale . Expensive by the way , Cartier history begun with that model
@Meirstein
@Meirstein 7 лет назад
Santos-Dumont did literally nothing for the field of flight besides being the first person to put wheels on an airplane. The 14-bis is a complete technological dead-end, and the Damoiselle used technology pioneered by the Wrights a decade earlier.
@iChiphead
@iChiphead 7 лет назад
Fabio: When another aeronautical pioneer from Ohio, Neil Armstrong, became the first man to step foot on the moon in 1969, inside his spacesuit pocket was a piece of muslin fabric from the left wing of the original 1903 Wright Flyer along with a piece of wood from the airplane’s left propeller.
@junisaraiva6219
@junisaraiva6219 7 лет назад
Until almost half of the twentieth century, the United States credited Santos Dumont with pioneering aviation. One of several evidences of this is in the Bulletin of the Pan American Union, publication of the Aeroclube of North America, referring to the annals of II Pan American Scientific Congress (Washington, 1915), that gives the Brazilian the merit by the conquest of the air. In fact, one of the proposals of the Congress was the creation of the Aeronautical Federation of the Western Hemisphere, a plan that did not avenge, but for whose presidency Santos Dumont was indicated. Curiously, the Wrights are not even remembered. Also the National Aeronautics, periodical of The National Aeronautic Association, of Washington, in December of 1939, in relating the aeronautical records, points Dumont like the first man to fly in 1906
@iChiphead
@iChiphead 7 лет назад
Juni, those are cherry-picked articles. How much would you like to bet that I couldn't find a Brazilian article crediting the Wright Brothers?
@aranabify
@aranabify 6 лет назад
Absolutely love love love your aerospace stuff. And I wish you put up more of it. they are very educational and mind opening! PS: I am an aerospace engineer so I have obvious biases!
@xeyen8331
@xeyen8331 8 лет назад
Nice video, keep up the good work and good luck! Also, don't sweat the Irish accent, Jacksepticeye seems to be doing alright with it!
@jimday666
@jimday666 8 лет назад
Wait. Isn't the YY' axis usually the pitch and ZZ' axis the yaw?
@gilbertonedeljunior4825
@gilbertonedeljunior4825 6 лет назад
Porque os primeiros aviões, primeiros vôos sobre comunidades e cidades, primeiras empresas aeronauticas (zepellin ), primeiras indústrias fabricantes de aviões, primeiras empresas de reparos de aviões e tudo referente ao avião só apareceu depois de SANTOS DUMONT e jamais apareceu nada no período anterior a ele? Verifique você mesmo!! qual dos itens apresentados surgiu oficialmente antes de DUMONT. tente responder.
@stevebett4947
@stevebett4947 4 года назад
Translation: Because the first planes, first flights over communities and cities, first aeronautical companies (zepellin), first aircraft manufacturing industries, first aircraft repair companies and everything related to the airplane only appeared after SANTOS DUMONT and nothing ever appeared in the period before him? Check it yourself !! which of the items presented officially appeared before DUMONT. try to answer. SB: I have checked and found plenty of information on the flights of the Wright brothers before 1906. By 1905, they demonstrated controlled flight by flying in circles for 20 min. in Ohio. There were about a dozen first flight claim before 1903. None of them were photographed and witnesses often disagreed on what happened. Most were uncontrolled hops of under 600 ft. Replicas and models of early flying machines have flown over 600ft in a straight line. There were no aeronautical officials before 1905.
@dubsy1026
@dubsy1026 7 лет назад
surprised there isn't more mention of George Cayley in the comments
@jamieclumpas8545
@jamieclumpas8545 8 лет назад
Richard piers flew controlled a few months before the wrights but he did it in New Zealand and news didn't spread very quickly from suck a small contry
@MarsFKA
@MarsFKA 8 лет назад
There is anecdotal evidence that Pearce flew some nine months before the Wright brothers, but neither he nor his witnesses kept any record of the event. Pearce shunned publicity and didn’t push his claim and so the official first flight goes to the Wright brothers. New Zealanders have no problem with that. There is no doubt, however, that Richard Pearce did make the first powered flight in the southern hemisphere.
@0xEmmy
@0xEmmy 7 лет назад
wait, did he fly (powered) or glide (unpowered)?
@MarsFKA
@MarsFKA 7 лет назад
octet33 Powered, and not very far. He landed in a gorse bush.
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately there's no evidence behind your claim
@PatrickStaight
@PatrickStaight 8 лет назад
Just wondering, does your diagram of the 1903 Flyer at 1:21 use a simplification of the belt which connected the right propeller to the motor? I'm pretty sure the belt was twisted so that the propellers would counter-rotate. Not that it's a problem really, I was just wondering.
@gghhhfghgh
@gghhhfghgh Год назад
Os flyers nunca vôo em 1903, porque fisicamente e impossível uma aeronave pesando 340 Kg com motor de apenas 12HP de potência!
@PatrickStaight
@PatrickStaight Год назад
@@gghhhfghgh I'm guessing you are a fan of Alberto Santos-Dumont?
@PatrickStaight
@PatrickStaight Год назад
@@gghhhfghgh Do you know if Santos-Dumont also found the correction to Smeaton's Coefficient?
@phgs_smnt
@phgs_smnt 3 года назад
O Santos Dumont inventou sim o avião, se não tem motor não é avião. Isso é tipo feijoada vegana, se não tiver carne de porco não é feijoada, é feijão preto com legumes.
@Emanu_Ali
@Emanu_Ali 3 года назад
Sou vegana e mesmo assim concordo com as duas afirmações!
@L3aRn2Th1nK
@L3aRn2Th1nK 7 лет назад
The USA has the Wright Brothers, Brazil has Alberto Santos-Dumont and New Zealand has Richard William Pearse. It is very difficult for the average joe to understand what the scenario was back in the early 1900s. Information did not come by easily and, if you're lucky, you'd learn about new technologies through imported newspapers or magazines of the time. To me the video successfully points out why, astonishingly, all three names I mentioned had the "idea" around the same time, roughly. I guess the news of an earlier inventor reached them somehow and all went "let's perfect it!". Another thing to understand is that Santos, even though experimenting earlier, only made his official flight much later in Paris whereas the Wright's were also experimenting around the same time but called their first successful flight "official" in the USA by a crowd of maybe 6 people. Richard didn't even care about being recognized for his flying machines. He was an odd bloke to put it simply but he also flew his machine around the same time. In resume, Wrights flew first with their catapulted launch, flew over 25m on self-sustained and controlled flight and it was made official in the USA. Santos had flown his 14-bis design before the Wright's, he exceeded the 25m in a machine that could take off and land o its own power and sustain fully controlled flight. Only made official much later in France. Richard also made his first successful flight before the Wright's "official" flight in a machine that was basically a bicycle with wings, self-sustained and fully controlled flight. The USA couldn't give a rats ass to what was happening in Europe and, back then, that relationship was an unforgiving one. If the definition of flight is consider to be a device heavier than air up in he air then Otto Liliesthal invented it, or would it have been Icarus?
@sanpol4399
@sanpol4399 2 года назад
The point is: Nobody doubts Santos Dumont's airplane flights, because they were facts. Before him, the claims are just fallacies. There is no way to prove. O ponto é: Dos voos de avião de Santos Dumont ninguém duvida, pois foram fatos. Antes dele, somente falácias, não há como provar.
@L3aRn2Th1nK
@L3aRn2Th1nK 2 года назад
@@sanpol4399 Acho que tu ou não leu o meu comentário, ou não leu sobre a história das máquinas voadoras ou ambos os casos. Como tu consegues chegar na conclusão de que "Só Santos-Dumont é fato e o resto é falácia" vai muito além do que consigo compreender de uma pessoa razoável. A única discussão válida aqui é o que se considerava um vôo bem sucedido de uma máquina dessas na época em que foram apresentadas. Seria somente vôo sustentado? Deveria ter controle de 3 eixos? Com propulsão própria? Essas são as questões que até hoje alimentam essa discussão de "quem vôou primero". Todos são fatos independente to que tu preferes acreditar.
@sanpol4399
@sanpol4399 2 года назад
@@L3aRn2Th1nK Errado. Fato não se discute, nada tem a ver com crença. O que se discute aqui é uma mistura de fato com fé que tende ao infinito por serem assuntos totalmente diferentes. Ninguém duvida dos voos feitos por Santos Dumont. Eles aconteceram, inclusive as réplicas do 14-bis voam facilmente . Você não conseguirá encontrar uma única prova de qualquer voo de avião antes de 1906, apenas falácias sobre supostos voos . Essa é a realidade. Você, no entanto, pode acreditar no que quiser e pra isso não há necessidade de provas. Ninguém pode lhe obrigar a acreditar na verdade. Eu fico com os fatos: Santos Dumont e seus voos com o 14-bis.
@L3aRn2Th1nK
@L3aRn2Th1nK 2 года назад
@@sanpol4399 , você está muito mal informado. Precisas pesquisar mais, talvez fontes em inglês possam ajudar nisso. Abraço.
@sanpol4399
@sanpol4399 2 года назад
@@L3aRn2Th1nK Normalmente os americanos fogem do debate sobre o primeiro voo de avião. Agora, brasileiro fugir, nunca havia visto. 🤷‍♂️ O idioma em que é feita a pesquisa não altera o fato, bem como a verdade não tem versões. Nessa discussão sobre o primeiro voo por exemplo, consigo te encurralar fácil com poucos argumentos. Se você for cético, responde. Se não for, foge. Por exemplo: Você já viu alguma réplica de qualquer modelo do Flyer voar por seus próprios meios ou sem perder energia logo após cessado o impulso externo? Sim ou não ?
@granskare
@granskare 7 лет назад
Have read about a monk named Elmer or Oliver, who came up with man-made flight sometime between 1000 - 1010 ad. He made himself into a glider and dived off the west tower of the abbey. Apparently he covered more than a furlong in active flight bu then fell an broke his legs. He wanted to add "tail feathers" but the man in charge forbade it and he hobbled around for the rest of his days..this is from a booklet about the history of Malmsbury in it I also learned that Nancy Hanks who was the mother of our Abraham Lincoln and that the Penn's a Washington's lived near by :) What a location Wiltshire was :)
@slicksticks5519
@slicksticks5519 7 лет назад
Fantastic video! I'm now inclined in buying a copy of "Birdflight as basis of aviation.
@slicksticks5519
@slicksticks5519 7 лет назад
I tried to visit your website however It couldn't be found. Is It deleted?
@yukiehms462
@yukiehms462 3 года назад
Santos-dummond Created it
@VirginiaRican
@VirginiaRican 7 лет назад
Wright brothers' biggest contribution, remembering to bring a camera.
@imperium4821
@imperium4821 Год назад
After 5 years
@MD-rk9gw
@MD-rk9gw 8 лет назад
remember Gustav Weißkopf (white Header in engl.) frommen Leutershausen, Germany, the inventor of the motorized flight, right before the Wright brothers first short jump
@mrkim3257
@mrkim3257 3 года назад
Gustav Whitehead was successful 2.5 years before the Wright Bro's in Bridgeport Con 1901. That's if you don't count his earlier attempt in late 1800s (without looking it up 1887?) that ended abrubtly after 1/2 a mile controlled flight down the main st of Pittsburgh? with a collision half way up a tallish building. If that building had been single block, he would have sailed over it and claimed heavier than air, motor propelled, controlled manned flight, in the 1800s. Others have mentioned that the Wright Bro's perfected flight. NOPE! After claiming success at kittyhawk, with no other evidence other than Orville Wrights own journal, the Wright Bro's took out a pattern on "controlling" elements of their flyer. They done little development after that because they were too busy in the courts suing anyone else who even tried to make a flight, unless they agreed to pay the Wright's 10% of any earnings they would make from aviation. Effective, the Wright's, particularly Orville, impeded the development of manned flight. After being called out as fakes in the USA and around the globe, the Wright Bro's final held a demonstration event in 1905 inviting press and any interested that their flyer was successful. They failed.......not only did they fail, but not a single attempt by anyone else in a blueprint replica of the Wright Flyer has ever succeeded with more than 123' and a crash. FACT: The Wright Bro's did not release video evidence of a successful flight until 1908 when '5 years after' they had claimed success, 'still' trying to validate that claim, footage was taken of a successful flight during their tour to France in what was by then, a craft heavily modified from their original flyer at Kittyhawk. Learn more of the fraud of first flight by looking up 'The Contact' signed by the Wright's Estate and the Smithonian which, upon threat of forfeiting all rights to display the Wright Flyer (One of if not 'the' biggest Smithonian draw card), prevents them, 'regardless of any other evidence presented in the future', from ever acknowledging any other than the Wright Bro's, having legitimate claim to first, heavier than air, powered, controlled, manned flight.
@AlejandroIrausquin
@AlejandroIrausquin 6 лет назад
Hello, how can I obtain a copy of the companion article? Website is down...
@El_Chompo
@El_Chompo 8 лет назад
I'm glad you made this video. I remember doing my own research in this area at one point and finding out that the wright brothers only made the first controlled flight like you say. Reading about some of the earlier airplane designs I found one story of a man who was flying a steam powered plane and he flew straight into a brick wall while he was stoking his fire. He survived and the town he was in banned him from future flight experiments taking place near there. I just love the mental image of a man shoveling coal into the furnace of a steam powered early prototype plane as he flies into a wall.
@jagdishpurohit5671
@jagdishpurohit5671 4 года назад
Shivkar Talpade, an Indian scholar, and his teacher were among the firsts to invent an airplane. He did it way back in 1895, 8 years before the Wright brothers. He built an unmanned aircraft and is depicted in the bollywood film Hawaizaada. Do read about him.
@prashantyerpude5674
@prashantyerpude5674 4 года назад
No one saw this comment 😟😥
@ulrich3844
@ulrich3844 3 года назад
Dude, Santos Dummont created the plane literally everyone knows it
@BornAgainCynic0086
@BornAgainCynic0086 3 года назад
@@ulrich3844 No, only South Americans do.
@ulrich3844
@ulrich3844 3 года назад
@@BornAgainCynic0086 Europe too, he was really famous in Europe
@dekuboidonut4552
@dekuboidonut4552 3 года назад
@@ulrich3844 actually he was praised for his work but not credited as the original inventor
@pruephillip1338
@pruephillip1338 2 года назад
These arguments avoid the central import - DEFINITIONS of words. In this case the definition of the term 'flight'
@kadmow
@kadmow 6 лет назад
Question. Why did you use a left hand coordinate system?? Long, Lateral and Vertical axes are a common convention - X,Y,Z (Forward, Right, Down - a right hand system) just wondering...
@airjordan1325
@airjordan1325 4 года назад
To everyone reading this comment I highly recommend watching the video "the Wright brothers did invent flight" on Greg's airplanes and automobiles channel really informative
@austinlay4085
@austinlay4085 4 года назад
Thanks!
@ordemeprogresso727
@ordemeprogresso727 4 года назад
Wright brothers didnt invent the first airplane, it was an Brazilian, and his name was Dumont greetings from Germany
@kush3818
@kush3818 4 года назад
yes bro santos drummont invented
@peterson7082
@peterson7082 3 года назад
@@ordemeprogresso727 nope.
@junisaraiva6219
@junisaraiva6219 6 лет назад
The. Wright. Neighboards never declare flight Activity In huffmanprayrie1903 1905. The. Neighboards never declare flights in dayton
@grahamlane131
@grahamlane131 7 лет назад
A little south of Middlesbrough is a quaint hamlet called Brompton, on the walls of the stone walled school is a plaque to Mr Cayley (Sir George) i'm a tad shocked he wasn't worthy of a brief mention.
@10phoenix01BlogspotCoUk
@10phoenix01BlogspotCoUk 8 лет назад
Your video is awesome dude keep it up!
@MagicSteel1
@MagicSteel1 7 лет назад
gotta admit, click bait title :p
@junisaraiva6219
@junisaraiva6219 7 лет назад
Until almost half of the twentieth century, the United States credited Santos Dumont with pioneering aviation. One of several evidences of this is in the Bulletin of the Pan American Union, publication of the Aeroclube of North America, referring to the annals of II Pan American Scientific Congress (Washington, 1915), that gives the Brazilian the merit by the conquest of the air. In fact, one of the proposals of the Congress was the creation of the Aeronautical Federation of the Western Hemisphere, a plan that did not avenge, but for whose presidency Santos Dumont was indicated. Curiously, the Wrights are not even remembered. Also the National Aeronautics, periodical of The National Aeronautic Association, of Washington, in December of 1939, in relating the aeronautical records, points Dumont like the first man to fly in 1906
@ruiquesito5545
@ruiquesito5545 6 лет назад
juni saraiva uhuuuu
@dekuboidonut4552
@dekuboidonut4552 3 года назад
Not even Brazil “officially” claims that Santos-Dumont flew first. It’s more of a “public opinion”… a little healthy nationalism. The claims that Santos-Dumont flew first are mostly based on discrediting the Wrights, since S-D’s first flight was in 1906… It is claimed that the Wrights used a catapult. That’s false. The Wrights did invent and use a launching catapult, but that was almost a year after the first flight in 1903. The main reason for using the catapult (and the rails) was that it was easier and more convenient than finding a long, straight, flat piece of land. This was before runways existed and there weren’t that many good roads, either. It is claimed that since the Wrights used the high winds of Kitty Hawk during takeoff, that’s not a “real” flight. A flimsy argument at best, considering the Flyer made several stable, sustained flights. By the time S-D flew, the Wrights had made many flights, any one of which could be used to prove First Flight, if the ones before it were considered invalid. Many claim that since S-D’s airplane had wheels but the Wrights’ used a track, that disqualifies the Wrights. Another flimsy argument. S-D made his first flight in France. If there had been any validity at all to his claim, the French would have backed him up, for sure. France and the USA were in a very hot and sometimes not-so-friendly competition to be First in every aviation record they could think of. Mostly it just a bit of nationalism and loyalty that keeps Brazilians’ support for Santos-Dumont so strong… but when it comes to the available facts, Santos-Dumont has no valid claim to being first. When all else fails, go to Air & Space magazine. It’s highly regarded as one of the most professional and trustworthy aviation fact sources on the planet: www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/who-flew-first-290750/
@thrustandlift9984
@thrustandlift9984 5 лет назад
I love aviation and aerial toys is there any online course which can teach me how to build small aeroplanes and drones....
@stevebett4947
@stevebett4947 4 года назад
The real engineering website associated with the tinyurl has been suspended. Is there another way to get to their website?
@martinkunev9911
@martinkunev9911 8 лет назад
The first manned flight was actually made by Étienne de Montgolfier on October 15, 1783.
@diogpapafundior2788
@diogpapafundior2788 6 лет назад
Official record for wright brothers first flight in conformity fai. May 06 1908.
@stevebett4947
@stevebett4947 4 года назад
Do you have the URL for the FAI rules that the 1908 Flyer had to conform to?
@sonhomeu1541
@sonhomeu1541 4 года назад
@@stevebett4947 the world knows that the first record in history is by Santos Dumont. The first record for the wrights was in May 1908 and was made by French experts.
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
They didn't keep official records for airplane flight in 1903 because the Wright Brothers had just invented it
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
​​@@sonhomeu1541No, the world recognizes the Wright Brothers for the first airplane flight. Its literally only Brazilians that claim it was Dumont.
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 4 месяца назад
​@@sonhomeu1541The French weren't experts in airplanes since they hadn't made their own yet. Of course their organization didn't exist in 1903 when the Wright brothers invented airplanes
@az93850
@az93850 7 лет назад
Think you amazing vid. but i wonder did you study engineering if yes, what type of engineering you are studying??
@makismakiavelis5718
@makismakiavelis5718 8 лет назад
Amazing job as always. The Wright's "wing twisting" mechanism baffled me when i first read about it. I mean, why develop such a complex configuration instead of standard ailerons? I know they didn't know about ailerons yet, but still, from a design and operational standpoint, even as an original idea, wasn't it far simpler to conceive than actual freaking twisting wings? Well, i guess it's easy for me to say all this, now that everything is figured out, while all they had was birds to get inspiration of and reverse-engineer.
@unipalooza.
@unipalooza. 8 лет назад
+Makis Makiavelis They didn't have the materials. They were just using things out of their bike shop.
@hyzercreek
@hyzercreek Год назад
Ailerons would have added too much weight to their 60 pound 1899 glider
@luceliorodrigues7504
@luceliorodrigues7504 3 года назад
ALBERTO👏SANTOS👏DUMONT
@luceliorodrigues7504
@luceliorodrigues7504 3 года назад
@@JustMe-cs9ku noun, get out of brazil
@robertocaetano4945
@robertocaetano4945 3 года назад
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏👏👏👏👏
@macwilliambasilio4128
@macwilliambasilio4128 6 лет назад
The simple fact that you did not mention Santos Dumont, already shows that he did not want to enter into this heated discussion. I can understand that. However, since he only quoted the Wriht Brothers I think it was not fair to omit that Santos Dumont was even the one who first made a flight with a heavier than air, using his own motor, dirigible and without catapults, and with official witnesses , even though this is not a very popular statement in America.
@kunalchangoiwala7474
@kunalchangoiwala7474 6 лет назад
what software do you use to make your blueprint style thumbnails and videos (animations) ??
@iosifiovuta1706
@iosifiovuta1706 8 лет назад
what do you have to say about Traian Vuia and Aurel Vlaicu though?
@unipalooza.
@unipalooza. 8 лет назад
I lived in Kitty Hawk when I was little(that is where the Wright Brothers performed their flights. The Wright brothers are the people who discovered have to create lift, yes they were inspired by Dumont, but he did not know about lift. *They* learned how to create lift using the wind tunnel that *they* created. Their wind tunnel was the first.
@RTPJu
@RTPJu 8 лет назад
Sorry, lad: BERNOULLI, Daniel, "Hydrodynamica", 1738 Cheers!
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 Год назад
I noticed that Dumonts plane looked like a box kite, and Wrights looked like they utilized the Bernoulli effect for lift. Plus Dumont had a propeller that looked like a bunch of boat oars in a circle, while the Wright flyer had hand carved propellers like kind still used today. In fact I understand the one remaining propeller was computer analyzed and found to be one of the most efficient propeller designs. Doesn't take a whole lot to see who was more advanced.
@machia0705
@machia0705 4 года назад
The Wright’s were the first to fly a powered and controllable airplane. They figured out the three axis which is necessary to control flight including wing aspect ratio. For Santos Dumont fans, he flew 3 years after the Wrights. And what’s interesting is the replicas of his first aircraft have ailerons, his aircraft didn’t, which raises a question; was his 1906 leap into the air controllable?
@hypercomms2001
@hypercomms2001 5 лет назад
I am confused with the picture of the Wright Flyer 1903 appearing [00:15] in a book supposedly written by Otto Lilienthal who died on 10 August 1896???????
@houndofzoltan
@houndofzoltan 6 лет назад
Heard of Percy Pilcher? Another interesting character in the development of flight and thorn in our desire to label complex processes the work of one or two easily remembered people.
@justindie7543
@justindie7543 7 лет назад
I don't fucking care whether it was the wright brothers or the brazilian guy, no great invention is made in a vacuum, we all build on the shoulders of the people before us. They both made contributions to flight. End of story. All I care about is how it works.
@JOSEFRAJOLA
@JOSEFRAJOLA 6 лет назад
Yes! But Santos was the first! It's well documented!
@protonjinx
@protonjinx 7 лет назад
I hardly think they perfected flight, more like, made it viable, or practical, useful?
@mancheaseskrelpher8419
@mancheaseskrelpher8419 8 лет назад
And the Wright brothers didn't invent flight because it is naturally occurring in many animals. That's like saying someone invented rolling.
@BenignGamer
@BenignGamer 8 лет назад
+Błażej Michalik Nature and evolution didn't invent anything either though, as that would imply conscious and intelligent design. Flight kind of appeared on accident and gradually improved sorta.
@mancheaseskrelpher8419
@mancheaseskrelpher8419 8 лет назад
+Błażej Michalik The Wright brothers discovered how to fly, because that is the word used when somebody finds out about something that already exists. I didn't imply that nature invents anything, I simply corrected the wording in this video.
@dorothyp7385
@dorothyp7385 5 лет назад
To the Bishop's sons rest in peace. As far as I am concerned you both created history.
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