Writing My Own Text Editor | Prime Reacts 

I mean it is easier to write your own text editor than configure neovim

programmers eventually can't resist the urge to write their own OS kernel, their own programming language, or their own text editor probably is just how programmers deal with their mid-life crisis

I mean... from the way he explained everything, and if he's down to make it - with other engineers, as he mentioned... all I can say is: *LET HIM COOK* This is how software evolves, and people like this are the ones that make most difference in our day-to-day jobs - quality tools should never be underestimated. All power to him.

This is what programming does to your brain, you want to rewrite everything. to make it to your liking, to your image. IT COMPELS YOU TO PLAY GOD!!

The final destiny of a text editor is an email reader.

This is happening everywhere! A bunch of Indie Apple Devs are currently writing their own code editors as well 😂 - Runestone - Code Edit - Swift Studio - … It seems like a pattern

Variable width fonts are important for non-ascii text and other unicode features that cant fit inside a perfect rectangular grid of "letters", plain text that is just LTR graphemes does not exist. TUI first also has other issues like imposing one font size for everything and severely limiting you in what you can do with things like popups and other appearance related things.

Funny thing, the name "Nyoom" is a onomatopoeia for the sound of a very fast object.

At some point, just open another window

As someone who likes the concept of Emacs but has often ended up fighting lisp instead of enjoying the configuration aspect, I'm kinda interested on this project, if it aims to be a modern replacement / rewrite of emacs I hope it does well.

“… he is trying to make Neovim into his operating system” Objection your honor! Factious speculation!

I don't understand the need to do this but I can appreciate the commitment, kudos

The LISP must flow!

1 indexing is awesome, it reminds me everytime that I cannot trust zero-or-one-indexes anyway

Yeah, Lisp changes the way you think about programming for sure. I used to have a paying Common Lisp job. Emacs was basically a compromise when going from Lisp Machines to Unix and C. You have no idea how much people thought Lisp Machines would be the future.

3:15 for a second i thought prime was talking about SPICE, the command line circuit simulator

Although I use Emacs I do agree with prime boi when it comes his take on vim, that is, GNU/Linux is your environment and vim is its editor. Emacs on the other hand is very different and it is hard for someone coming from vim (or any other text editor) to understand why a lot of people like Emacs simply by "trying it out". You most likely won't "get it" until you have learnt lisp in order to take advantage of the extensibility of Emacs, for while the biggest selling point of vim is its editing capabilities, extensibility is what makes Emacs great as well as the introspectability and interactive development experience that comes with being built on lisp.

Why helix hate tho? It's good, and does pretty much everything i need it to at this point + default keybinds are more sensible imo. Yes, no plugin system (being worked on) and a bit cumbersome to configure the LSPs, but it's one time operation, and you're good, especially if you have your dotfiles backed up (I use NixOS for example, so i dont have to even do much to have the exact same experience on a totally different machine). I also use a multiplexer (Zellij, cuz Rust and floating panes (very useful, can't live without them now)) + broot for fuzzy searching, and it's all I need really, been working like this for about 4-5 months now and can barely use normal IDE's at this point.

Let him cook.

7:00 truly ascend: simplicity _is_ sophistication

joe tried this challenge and it went pretty well for him

I saw a chat go by that said "In the absence of history, 1-based indexing is more intuitive." And I presume they're referring only to programming history, because in mathematical history, ever since right around 5,000 years ago all number systems start with zero. And, w.r.t common number systems on computers binary, octal, decimal, and hexadecimal all start with 0, but what else would you choose for binary? 1, 2? I don't think so.

If I was as skilled as OP, I would probably try the same thing.

Mandatory reminder, you wanted to use ed some time ago. (I barely managed to solve AoC2022 day 1 part 1 - managing python indentation from ed was a pain)

Emacs version 25 makes you old?! 😂 (ehem started on version 20 here…)

“This mentat is not a retard, he’s just suffering a Segfault” - CHOAM engineer probably

I remember when i wanted to program my own shell.😂😂

I wrote (modified to do what I wanted the code to do) some Lisp back in 2004 since I needed to automate some tasks (finding a basic celluloid film cartridge and paper purchase strategy for my shop) in XMaxima. A plain LPP solver, nothing's extraordinary. The CAS can be extended to do anything imaginable in mathematics via Lisp scripts.

Behold a programmer reaching the critical state of transcendence. They will either ascend and unlock a new way for everyone else, or they will fall. But even if they do fall. They would still land at a pretty good altitude kekw

Using a text editor to write a text editor is cheating. Punch cards and dip switches or GTFO!!!

0:33 - After I saw this video from Casey Muratoi - "How fast should an unoptimized terminal run?" and couple others - I will never just believe, that editors are just what they are, and that there is no more juice to be squeezed ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hxM8QmyZXtg.html&ab_channel=MollyRocket

IM STILL READING DUNE STOP SPOILING IT

I uninstalled Neovim and went back to Vim. Neovim was way too powerful with accidentally deleting things as a consequence, and gone it is.

When is the day that I can switch from VSCode to a modularly preconfigured editor; something in between a bare bones die-hard nvim and a "bloatedly/bloatfully" preconfigured distro/cult. A simple nvim setup + a more powerful version of packer or lazy would make the experience of using nvim super duper cool, even my mom would love using it if the extension managers are fledged enough yet modularly.

I always wonder what the general opinion is on something like MuJS over lua. While I am well aware that lua is really tiny, it feels horrible to write in for me, and I would much prefer using JS for those instances.

Yes but what editor did he used to write the editor

> "elisp sucks!" > uses fennel

So happy to hear you speak to using tmux to manage context switching between projects. The tmux-sessionist plugin rules. Great stuff.

One point from my side. Who really likes shell programming and the shell programming language? But I also want as much support for as less typing as possible. If I just want to write a fast script, of course, I can do that in whatever shell I like, but I really dislike the programming way. Now what alternatives do I have. Yes there is scsh (it uses Scheme, that's a nice and niche programming language, but it hardly supports all the interactive stuff I can have in zsh. Then there is the Python Shell, sorry, forget its name, you can program in Python and that is definitely a + to Shell. Now I just let my imagination run wild, how nice would be kind of shell / UI in Common Lisp, so yes Emacs with Common Lisp as programming language, that would be so great. Or the Smalltalks-gods may forbig a Smalltalk-Shell. Yes, you can use e.g Pharo Smalltalk to do a lot but it's not easy to handle the file system and there is not even one decent Editor. Not one. And so I bet this editor will please him (maybe) but ...

I like Vim’s keybinds and motions, but I do not like Vim/Neovim as a text editor. 4coder seems like a far better option

lol what that a Dune reference @2:57? hahaha

lisp is helluva drug

if emacs configuration language would not be lisp, i would use it. i dont wanna learn lisp , period I dont mind having mail, irc and other stuff in one place. it just makes sense actually if ur developer and sit hours on end on the computer and in editor, that the editor becomes ur pseudo-OS

What prime said is basically what it is. You can spin up a "text editor" in like 2 minutes. You won't get a proper editor, or an "IDE" that fast though. Just look at something like nvim vs helix. At the top level, they do basically exactly the same thing, except one grew based on two decades of decisions, and the other one doesn't have any plugin support. This is very similar to Jetbrains' Fleet, which is essentially... useless

Is 1 indexing really all that bad? It matches the way we speak/think. I think heads would explode if I asked what the zeroth item on the todo list is.

Nvim configuration is a great pain in the rear

Simplicity is good to arrive back to but when you start there and see caveman like code all over its hell

I have a pet project that is an code editor 😅

I really like lua, but I also really hate lua for one reason. That it indexes from 1 instead of 0. Why? And it embeds into a bunch of other languages who index from 0, it's just wrong.

What is the difference between php and lua? Honest question. I used both (besides many other languages) and I don't understand why one is hated and the other is not

lua on top yeaaaa

"boomering really hard" 🤣

being a Linux user mean that you have to spend your time configuring your environment instead of using it

That sounds like a modern version of emacs. They want emacs.

is it written in JDSL?

Nyooooooom cars😊

Nice place here!

Hilarious 😂 no one tool can fit all the needs of many. This reminds me of how much time is wasted on bs 🎉

Does anyone know if he uses a Dvorak layout or something?

Core yootles

Helix is the best so far

kakuone

uwu

Lua is kind of an abomination to me, but there's one thing I have to give it: Factorio. Factorio is written in lua and it's a mess of complex. And yet, somehow, the devs have made it so damn optimized. Perhaps it would be more optimized in Go, Rust, or C. But the fact that it can be that optimized at all is very impressive

vscode better uwu

Meh

@theprimetime you're using vim the way UNIX was designed. UNIX is the IDE, vi/vim is the text editor (btw I have zero qualms with Emacs)

Can't watch this, i bet this is a emacs video i disguise