WSL2: Code faster on the Windows Subsystem for Linux! | Tabs vs Spaces 

That is the only reason why don't use it yet

GPU passthrough should be doable since other VMs also has it

Hyper-V doesn't have PCI passthrough support at all for now.

@@paulstelian97 PCI passthrough is available for years in Hyper-V via discrete device assignment

@@paulstelian97 So you could technically use WSL2 for machine learning?

actually that is an incorrect statement. Bill and Steve were best of friends.. so obviously NOT what you believe. MS actually bailed out Apple a couple of times, they were not counter, they just have different ways of doing things. Both wanted to be a front runner so of course they could let the other side win, but there was very little they interfered with. Both OS has it's merits.

​@@rparker061 I think zubinix was referring to Steve Ballmer not Steve Jobs.

instead of fighting Linux, Microsoft decided to absorb it

Translation: Running Linux is phenomenal, finally Windows users get to experience the benefits :D

@@rolmops883 While not deal with the headaches that come with running Linux desktop.

@@rano12321 headaches like what? I've been running Linux for years now, and I honestly can't think of anything

Screw you microsoft! ;-) nothing personal Theo

I started laughing every time ... So damn annoying

lol

LEGALIZE RANCH!

U damn right. The girl next door had to knock my door. lol

haha this will never happen

Oh its not release yet?

@@slowtyper95 it is but you need to be on the buggy version of windows , its like a beta windows 10, not the regular windows 10

@@Tux0xFF i mean, is there a difference? haha

Why not just use Linux

@@anuragstutorials9484 Because my workflow requires Windows Apps and I love them. Example: Office, One Note, To Do etc

The weird thing is that i prefer tabs for the exact same reason, you can configure how wide you want the tabs to display so if one person prefer 2 spaces and the other one prefer 4, then they just configure they editor to display now much they want. Using spaces don't allow this. So weird that this debates still exists since tabs can do the same thing and more, and also require less button pressing.

I've had x server working on wsl1 and ran php storm from it. Just follow a guide to setup x server

I would not be surprised if this is something Microsoft is working on next. I assume the goal of this update was focusing on 100% compatibility and performance. Next definitely could be a native Xserver, but we are probably a year away sadly.

xming should be good enough

@@BennoKushnir can you point me to a user friendly guide for that? Currently I am developing a website on my virtualbox linux machine since I have to work with windows as well and can't really dual boot. Using WSL would be better for me along with VNC or xserver or xming.

@@SahilP2648 I'll post details in a few minutes on my site at https:\\techzerker.com , as with WSL1, I use a quick and dirty .vbs script w/ VcXsrv on windows to use a full i3 Desktop on my Windows 10.

definately agree ! With usb support I could let go of linux!

WSL1 was a bit like that. WSL2 is a real Linux Kernel running in a Hyper-V VM behind the scenes and some nice tooling around it.

It's better

@@prashand4899 worse actually, since Wine allows to run apps with graphical UI and even games

@@ml_serenity F LOVE IT!

@@ml_serenity so what? You want to run Linux games on Windows now?

I still have no idea why they put it there I don't think it was supposed to be part of the video but the editors decided what the heck put it in.

Linux doesn't have that many malware which is why Most people use linux without any anti-virus.

did WindowsDefender ever find ANY malware?

lmao i don't know if that was a serious question or not, but it's still funny to even think about the prospect.

Someone else correct me if I am wrong, but If the Linux kernel is running in A windows hyperv virtualization environment. Then I believe this will interfere with any other virtualization software that would be used to run vms in windows. (like vmware or virtualbox) normally most processors (Intel and Amd) will not let you run multiple virtualization solutions at the same time on one operating system.

Δημήτρη το VirtualBox δεν μπορεί να δουλέψει μαζί με το HyperV, αλλά μπορείς να χρησιμοποιήσεις το HyperV για να φτιάξεις δικά σου VMs όπως κάνεις και με το VirtualBox. Εγώ έχω στήσει Windows XP, Windows 7 μέχρι και Ubuntu έχει να βάλεις που είναι optimized.

The feature you are supposed to enable is the "virtual machine" and not hyper V. If you enable hyper V in windows it surely isn't going to work with another VM proprietary client like VMware or VirtualBox, but what about this specific windows virtual machine feature..? (Το ξέρω Χρηστάρα, ευχαριστώ!)

It uses hyper-v so yes it will interfear.

@@dimitriskatsoulis4986 το feature "Virtual Machine" χρησιμοποιεί το Hyper-V. Σε προηγούμενες εκδόσεις δεν υπήρχε καν virtual machine και έπρεπε να βάλεις HyperV και WSL. Σου προτείνω να το δοκιμάσεις το HyperV. Και εγώ δούλευα VirtualBox αλλά από τότε που το docker το γύρισε σε HyperV μετέτρεψα όλα τα VMs και σε HyperV και το ξήλωσα το VB

Loppy2345 it has literally yesterday

So I will be able to use the Docker that I install in my WSL2 as my Docker engine? Because I do not want to rely on Docket Toolbox anymore!

It shouldn't be too bad as the 9P protocol is actually pretty efficient. It's possible it's even slightly faster (as in only twice or three times as slow as native, in-VM access)

​ Paul-Stelian Olaru quick google search shows a lot of complaints about how slow WSL2 file performance is. And some comparing to WSL1. THInk showing the IO performance inside the vm is a bit dumb as you will want to be using the mounted NTFS drives for your work.

Crazy 😂

it auto installs or recommends (dont remember) the wsl plugin when it detects it's installation

docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-faq#can-i-access-the-gpu-in-wsl-2-are-there-plans-to-increase-hardware-support

Agree

docs.docker.com/docker-for-windows/install-windows-home/ This is a new article showing that with WSL2 you can run it on home

I believe that this is on the team's backlog to build in support for, but currently not officially supported. github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/2195 That said, been meaning to try this to see if it works, just need to make the time... github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/2195

You can actually dual boot, so you have both (a full version of) Linux and Windows installed on the same machine.

Ya, thanks.@@JustSomeAussie1 I'm normally doing something that I have to use windows for, then also SSHing into Linux to make sure the software runs there as well.

Hyper-V works, what is the problem exactly? WSL 2 works, if you use Windows I have news for you.. hyper-V will be even MORE dependent later. I imagine there will be an embedded ROM chip that boots and you choose to run any OS you want... virtually. It will be come the future. Phones I suspect will do the same. You buy a phone run whatever OS you want, iOS, Android, Blackberry, Windows, whatever.. it's just a VM. So what is the problem as long as it works.. plus with Virtual you can have many OS on same hardware, no dual booting not complicated install just scripts that switch \ install and integrate. Don't understand the resistance to using Hyper-V. It's stable and its natively a part of Windows. Even if you 'turn off' it's not really off..it's just dormant.

I installed NVM on WSL2 Ubuntu and I didn't have any issues when connecting from VSCode and working with node, even changing versions. Maybe you experienced an issue that you haven't installed nodejs in Ubuntu and WSL picked it up from Windows.

Using Hyper-V and VirtualBox together has been possible for over a year now (since VirtualBox 6.0) - for more info see forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=90853

It's called Windows Terminal ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7bqoXHiXTHA.html

Because it is "Subsystem" for Linux ?

I don't think so.

It does

Do you people NOT know how to 'google'? docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install

With the first release of Windows this year. April, I think.

@@naikrovek I cant wait, I've been enjoying coding using WSL, Windows has won me over again.

Hard to say for sure... things are crazy over here currently with the COVID-19 outbreak, but should be this year.

They said first half of 2020. So as late as June if not earlier

I've been using WSL2 for about a month. But it needs me to join the Windows 10 Insider Program to have the latest Windows Update.

um.. you obviously don't have a clue. WSL 2 is a vehicle. nothing more. They have pre-built install of certain Linux versions (you can choose between a few). Linux RUNS as a NATIVE OS inside hyper-v but it's integrated at the command level with Windows. has ZERO to do with WSL 2 being a different method of installing Linux. Linux runs and it works great, you clearly just want to keep your Windows the way it is and have no interest in trying to work with Linux. That much is abundantly clear. CentOS, Redhat, Debian, Ubuntu any of those can install in WSL 2, natively. Don't understand your complaint. They didn't change ANY Linux code it's the same as always so if Postgres works it will work in WSL 2 as well.

Just shange the the shell terminal in your settings to the WSL command no path needed just "WSL"

For real what is that

@@mosk11tto cringe

I liked the guitar.

It reminds me some peruvian chicha's guitar style.

Well, what did you expect from Microsoft?

You don't need VirtualBox. You can use HyperV to mount .iso files and create as many VMs you want.

Yeah, WSL2 and Docker for Windows both use Hyper-V which is incompatible with VMware and Virtualbox products. docker-machine can be made to use either Hyper-V or Virtualbox.

There are machines where VM-based WSL cannot work and WSL1 is the only thing remaining.

First half of 2020, so when the 20h1 update rolls out

Why not spaces for both of those? I don't see how a tab is specifically better for indentation when certain languages have different expectations for how many spaces you should use for indentation (if you have your tabs set to 8 spaces and you load a Delphi document with tabs where the standard is 2, oh boy will it look so out of place). Just use soft tabs or something

@@stefanalecu9532 because tabs allow the viewer to use whatever indentation size they desire. baking this into the file is unnecessary. if changing the tab size makes it look wrong, then you're doing it wrong. hence tabs for indentation, spaces for alignment.

for anyone else who is interested, i found it www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/windows-terminal/9n0dx20hk701?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

@@timcook8999 lol , i expected too much from Microsoft.

You can do that, just install Xming, do some "export DISPLAY=0" something-something in your .bashrc, and you're done I've actually run OpenArena, QtCreator and Firefox on WSL years ago doing this

@@arsnakehert thanks, will try it out.

Actually you can.

With hardware acceleration, VM should have a lower overhead, especially since it's a lightweight VM. You'd see RAM usage get a bit higher though.

Anaconda, Haskell should all work just fine under it since it's actual Linux. The only things that still don't work are the things that require custom hardware drivers, including USB, GPU.

@@paulstelian97 thanks, I will give it a try.

It's the new Windows Terminal. You can find it in the Windows Store.

Windows terminal,you can get it on Microsoft Store

You mean Wine?

Actually nvm it's not the full system, just a compatibility layer.

Does that mean that wsl2 won't be coming to Windows 10 home?

LOL

Have you set your distro to WSL2?

@@SteveTech Yes, I did the `wsl --set-version Ubuntu 2`. Already uninstalled all this crap, same result but better with VMWare/Linux...

@@kungfooman Do you have VS Code Installed?