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WTF CGC - How is this even possible? Comic book grading gone wrong. 

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A recent submission from CGC is unboxed, during which I reveal one of the most insane things I have ever seen from CGC. I have no words to describe the sheer insanity of it all.
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@DJLINX
@DJLINX Год назад
Had to pause it because my heart was beating out my chest at the suspense of the Miles #39. WHEW!!!
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
I was super happy with the results as you can imagine. Thank you sir.
@collectingwithderrz
@collectingwithderrz Год назад
Bangers per usual, my man. That Italian Star Wars variant was absolutely jawdropping. Hopefully, you will do a follow-up on that NG book. I'm very curious to see what CGCs response is. Hope your having a killer day & much ❤❤
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Apparently its because it has no barcode. Even though they have graded some, they claim they don't.
@acevedoe
@acevedoe Год назад
It’s a sketch variant with the cover taken off
@winterpurple4587
@winterpurple4587 Год назад
Cgc has been missing a lot of mentions of first appearances on their labels. Tells us that they're sifting through the books real fast due to the sheer volume and not even researching them anymore. It really hurts the books in the long run because 20, 30 years from now people aren't going to remember what's in the books and would just be relying on the labels for "info."
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
CGC and CBCS have both been missing first appearances on a bunch of recent books. I almost wonder if its them waiting to see which character are worth noting and which are one and done.
@chopndrop2013
@chopndrop2013 Год назад
Awesome return!!! The NG was certainly weird!!!🤔 But definitely some beautiful covers!!! That red Miles, that SpiderGwen, all great grades!!! Thanks for sharing Rob!!! Keep doin what you do!!! Stay awesome!!! Have a great evening brother!!! Appreciate you!!!👍👊🤙
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
That NG is going to drive me nuts until I have an answer
@Aquaman1054
@Aquaman1054 Год назад
Thank you for sharing your CGC unboxing with us. I haven't been following modern comics since 2018 or 2019, so seeing your unboxing was all new to me. BTW, I like your wall mounted slabs; particularly the Flash Gordon!
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Thank you for checking out the channel. That Four Color Flash Gordon is one of my favorites, trying to pick up all the Four Color Flash Gordons.
@seth1184
@seth1184 Год назад
Rob I love your videos and not only that your voice is very relaxing to listen to after work.😌
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Thank you sir, I appreciate your support.
@mannythehobgoblincollector9403
Awesome grades! Miles and Gwen books look dopez Any update on the NG AF15 book? I am still mystified how that books is coverless. Be well!🎃!
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Not yet, so far no answer.
@Trainingonthedaily
@Trainingonthedaily Год назад
@xerogenesis2003
@xerogenesis2003 Год назад
They did the same to me with the Silk 4 cover misprint. They consider it a NG, for being coverless.
@mikelitteris69
@mikelitteris69 Год назад
No truer words, " That was fuckin pointless." 🤣
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Right, my head still hurts.
@FlashByKnight
@FlashByKnight Год назад
That AF15 is interesting. Is it just the wrong sticker? 🤔
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
I am not sure, I have not heard anything as of yet.
@Twenty2Comics
@Twenty2Comics Год назад
Awesome submission Rob!!! I would hit CGC up and ask what the deal is. I think you only have 14 days to bring it to their attention for them to fix it for free.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
I am waiting on a response, hoping to hear back soon.
@benparkercomics
@benparkercomics Год назад
Man that was a fantastic submission!! All bangers, and one WTF HAPPENED?! My personal favorite was the Dark Horse Star Wars slab.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Dark Horse Star Wars....nice...
@benparkercomics
@benparkercomics Год назад
Definitely! That Old Republic 1 is a tough cover, hands down my favorite
@johnnydropkicks
@johnnydropkicks Год назад
CGC: Always on top of their game. /s
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
The only thing consistent about CGC is their inconsistency. Thanks for watching.
@rohn-zc5sx
@rohn-zc5sx 11 месяцев назад
awesome grades 👍 love the Spiderman and ghost spider
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax 11 месяцев назад
Thanks you for taking the time to leave a comment. cheers.
@hoardershide
@hoardershide Год назад
Just did some research on that book. There are some on ebay with no barcode that are graded and there are some like yours with NG Coverless. Only thing I could figure is the no barcode version was originally sold with a special outer cover or maybe it was a regional distribution cover or something or maybe even a dust jacket. I'm sure a post to the CGC Forum would get an answer.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Hmmmm.... I don't remember where I picked this book up, but it would have been direct from a retailer. Interesting.
@Trainingonthedaily
@Trainingonthedaily Год назад
@amekomidarake
@amekomidarake Год назад
@@Trainingonthedaily pretty sure my 9.8 doesn't have a barcode... one day I'll have to dig it out to check
@berkfamily54
@berkfamily54 Год назад
Sick books. Confused as hell about that AF15
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Agreed, it makes no sense to me.
@bronzevillecomics2581
@bronzevillecomics2581 Год назад
My favorite was the AF 15 replica NG. Did you follow up with that? That is just stupid. Was there a release of that book with an acetate cover or something that they thought it was instead?
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
CGC claims because there is no barcode they will not grade it and mark it coverless even though I purchased it from the retailer this way, and they have graded these before. The only reason I sent this in was because the copies without barcodes sell for $300+
@jasondoyle2474
@jasondoyle2474 Год назад
I have one of those virgin ivan tao graffiti variants I've been hanging onto as well. Probably go in on my next submission
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
It is a beautiful book, cheers.
@best9642
@best9642 Год назад
Beautiful slabs, thanks for sharing.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@SwytchComics
@SwytchComics Год назад
That NYCC Miles cover is gorgeous!! Other than the super weird NG, you got some killer grades!
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Yes, I was so happy DJ let go of that NYCC book and I was able to grab it. THanks
@jonathanloera6830
@jonathanloera6830 Год назад
Why do slabed modern books suck so much. OMG! I dislike them so much!
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
I don't know that they all suck, just this whole deal of giving a book "No Grade" because there is no barcode.
@WhitneySmith-ey7dl
@WhitneySmith-ey7dl Месяц назад
Is it even worth it to send in newer comics worth just a few bucks to be stabbed? Seems like the service is better for older material worth more.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Месяц назад
@@WhitneySmith-ey7dl if you are having your books graded purely for near term financial reasons, then for the most part, it is probably better to keep them raw.
@comicjourney
@comicjourney Год назад
Looks like CGC's Quality Control is still top notch
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
That is my opinion.
@jaxflfreebird
@jaxflfreebird Год назад
Heavy duty plastic CGC cases and plastic bags that will be around for 5000 years when the comic books by then have become about 1/2 of dust in the case. This craze of making every comicbook a work of valuable art, even when the art is mediocre, when the stories are beyond bad, well, it was because of the greed of collectors, mostly the work of speculators -- which is just about every person who buys a book now. This week the newest Holy Grail is that Spiderman book #7 with Spider-BOY. Yay, do I hear $500? $5000. Who here has the most money to throw at a silly comicbook. Or how about Spider-Gwen or just whatever minor character they can resurrect from the dead so people can FOMO over. FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
@jaxflfreebird
@jaxflfreebird Год назад
Are you old and balding? You too can speculate. Are you a six year old boy or girl who's parents can instill the FOMO in you? Are you a dealer holding on to books you promised to sell? Are you Everybody in the world ramping the price of every book in existence to FOMO? Strawberry Shortcake comics -- FOMO. He Man Comics --- FOMO. Alf comics ----- minor FOMO. Dazzler -- FOMO ISIS --- FOMO It's enough for me to hang on to my money and buy a graphic novel or an Ominbus or a reader, a beater. Jeeez. ☹☹☹☹☹☹
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
I certainly understand your point, but I think you may be new to my channel. I do not think of myself as a FOMO guy, nor a speculator as I seldom sell books and when I do rarely at a profit. I buy what I like, and I like to collect graded comics in addition to non-graded comics. I fully understand not everyone is into graded comics, and nor should anyone feel obligated to. The ability for everyone to collect what they want and how they want is what I love about this hobby. I appreciate your taking the time to watch and leave a comment, I respect your way of collecting, and hope that you will continue to support the channel. Thank you.
@ramonverse2.196
@ramonverse2.196 Год назад
I am in awe of the Spiderman books. However, seeing that NG on that AF15 just dropped my jaw. I am so stunned to see that. 🤯
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Absolute insanity right?
@michaelgallant1977
@michaelgallant1977 Год назад
Great looking books 👍
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Thanks 👍 Appreciate you taking the time.
@CatFanComicsMan
@CatFanComicsMan Год назад
Some greaty books arnd grades but no clue on that one. Thanks for sharing as usual❤
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Appreciate you bud, thanks for watching.
@ComicManAndy
@ComicManAndy Год назад
Wow! A NG because of the bar code? Wow, they could have just not encapsulated it and sent it back with the note. Awesome Star Wars slabs and unboxing sir.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
It is quite insane, its not like they haven't graded other copies with no barcode, apparently they changed.
@bigdavelovescomics7539
@bigdavelovescomics7539 Год назад
Nice haul, CGC grading has been all over the place lately
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Tell me about it, the only thing consistent about them is their inconsistency.
@chicosuave2966
@chicosuave2966 9 месяцев назад
Hello Mr Rob are your Sennheiser headphones for use with TV’s also?
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax 9 месяцев назад
You could use them with anything that has a head phone jack. I happen to use a USB adapter with my computer, but they have two connections, a 1/8" stereo headphone jack, and a 1/8" microphone jack.
@austinlemme
@austinlemme Год назад
I can't wait to hear CGC's explanation on the NG....otherwise, excellent haul!!
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
I am anxious to hear their response as well.
@best9642
@best9642 Год назад
That last slab, “High Republic”, was the best one.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Beautiful right?
@Trainingonthedaily
@Trainingonthedaily Год назад
@TripleGcomics
@TripleGcomics Год назад
Some great grades bud
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Thank you sir, thanks for watching.
@mrjonesbond7894
@mrjonesbond7894 11 месяцев назад
What does the grader notes say (if there is any)?
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax 11 месяцев назад
The graders notes said: "No Barcode on cover"
@comicsandculture
@comicsandculture Год назад
Cool books Rob. My friend got a ng on his af15 and was told by cgc the reason is because it has no bar code so they deem it a non real comic. I don’t like their response.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Interesting, I can't wait to hear if they tell me the same story.
@jeffcorpse
@jeffcorpse Год назад
The AF 15 has no barcode on the blank cover variant. Someone took the blank white cover off.
@jeffcorpse
@jeffcorpse Год назад
Sellers are doing the same thing with the blank 181 facsimile variants. Taking off the outer cover and selling as no barcode
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
I would hope the retailer I purchased this from did not do that. It also does not explain why CGC graded many such copies, but now say they don't. I sent this in only after seeing how much more a 9.8 with no bar code was selling for. Very disappointed all around.
@jeffcorpse
@jeffcorpse Год назад
I noticed that too that CGC had graded some no barcodes. I wonder if they didn’t catch what was going on at first.
@jeanmalo7173
@jeanmalo7173 Год назад
Since it was CGC that made a mistake on the facsimile, shouldn't they be the ones who do the "cracking" instead of you? (just trying to educate myself here)...stay safe Rob and my fav is the negative space NYCC spider-man cover.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Assuming I hear back from them, one would hope.
@DiggerJim7202
@DiggerJim7202 Год назад
You got some great grades. ,Those Miles books are amazing.,
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
I think so too! Especially that NYCC cover.
@lascruces-vh4oe
@lascruces-vh4oe Год назад
That Amazing Fantasy 15 facsimile is an awesome looking book. I am mystified as to the grade. Thanks for sharing, Rob. #OnlySlabs
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
This is a new one for me, that's for sure.
@BrianLCS
@BrianLCS Год назад
I've seen plenty of facsimiles grade, not idea why you got the NG. Mile 1 and the NYCC drip were my favs.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Thanks Brian, I am at a loss still.
@jaxflfreebird
@jaxflfreebird Год назад
Why don't you just have your book sent straight to CGC. WHY TAKE CHANCES. 😬😬😬😬
@jaxflfreebird
@jaxflfreebird Год назад
I should have been sent to CGC some 59 or so years ago. I'm a damned beater now. I'm like a 2.0. Nobody wants me now. 😭😭
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
I don't grade everything, and not everything is something I want graded. cheers
@RJI8
@RJI8 Год назад
AF 15 Facsimile is my favorite book out of the pile
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Great book, bad grading by CGC.
@comiccapcollectibles
@comiccapcollectibles Год назад
Great grades other than that NG… never seen that error before!
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Agreed, if it weren't for that NG, it would have been a great unboxing.
@Whalewraith
@Whalewraith 8 месяцев назад
I'm confused, you pay a company to grade your book and they don't grade it then they haven't done what they have charged you for.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, that is one way to look at it.
@PghZombie
@PghZombie Год назад
I liked the Todd McFarlane MMSM homage cover the best....that is interesting about the AF 15....
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Its a cover that is homage frequently for a reason. Thank you.
@luke-space
@luke-space Год назад
I like that spider Gwen animation cover art. Miles has one of them also.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Its a great cover, been looking at that Miles one myself. Thanks for watching.
@lennon2744
@lennon2744 Год назад
I left this comment to cure cancer and I also liked the video
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Thank you for the support, it is appreciated 🙏
@grendel0013
@grendel0013 Год назад
WTF is right! I'm glad I clicked on this video. Why in the world would CGC give the facsimile a NG??? No cover??? I just submitted an Action Comics #1 Loot Crate facsimile so now I'm wondering what they'll say. I only sent it in because I already have a CGC 9.8 DC #27 Loot Crate so I figured they'd look neat as a pair. Now I'm concerned...
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Apparently, CGC claims the no barcode is the reason they gave it a "coverless" designation, and they claim this is their practice, this of course is not what the evidence will show if you search around as there are several graded copies without barcodes.
@grendel0013
@grendel0013 Год назад
@@Robs.fatstax That’s so strange but I was thinking that may have something to do with it when you mentioned that this copy was sans barcode. 😡 That’s infuriating especially because of the inconsistency. Like yourself, I would much rather have a copy without the ugly barcode and this is your “reward” for finding this variant. 🙄 Oh man. Keep fighting the good fight brother.
@BrooklynAvenue
@BrooklynAvenue Год назад
Just sent in ASMs in the 600 range, got 3 9.8s, 3 9.6s, 9.4 and 9.2. It almost seems that they just have to kill you on one or 2.
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
The only thing consistent with CGC lately is their inconsistency.
@Ready4Wednesday
@Ready4Wednesday Год назад
No grade = Flawless
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
It could be
@siner2442
@siner2442 Год назад
Those CGC plastic covers are so hard, I’ve never seen one of them crack or break… they are very well protected, it doesn’t matter how they mail it. U can wrap a brown paper bag over it and it will come the same. That’s why I don’t understand why it cost $17 to ship? It weighs nothing,it’s flat and as big as a magazine… i feel like we’re getting ripped off
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Respectfully, I disagree. I have received several damaged slabs in the mail due to insufficient packaging. $17 is basically the cost of shipping a medium flat rate box, and from my experience even if you just stuck it in a bubble mailer and sent it ground parcel, its going to cost around $12, so I am fine spending a couple extra on shipping if it meant the slab will be packed correctly. Shipping isn't the source of our being ripped off, especially by CGC. I would start with the $5 submission fee CGC charges you for filling out their online form to submit books. Then forcing you to fill out a second form for books from different eras, and paying a second submission fee, even when sending in the same shipment. Submission fees should be waived for paying members and should be charged only to free memberships. Thank you for watching.
@robertcable9502
@robertcable9502 Год назад
No bro, you win the medal today for the craziest thing I've heard in a long time. If you sell comics, please don't.
@siner2442
@siner2442 Год назад
@@robertcable9502 WTF are u talking about idiot? Just bcuz I said those CGC plastic cases are hard?
@robertharrison2.055
@robertharrison2.055 Год назад
i subbed ''
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Thank you for the sub, hope to see you around.
@eggplantcomics8336
@eggplantcomics8336 Год назад
Trying to sneak a cover less book past cgc? 😂 how dare you!
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Right, I am surprised they didn't give me a green label NG while they were at it.
@jacob_comics
@jacob_comics Год назад
That NG is really odd...
@Robs.fatstax
@Robs.fatstax Год назад
Yep, sure looks like there is a cover on that book to me.
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