WTT 2023 Top 8 - Tweek (Sephiroth, Diddy Kong) Vs. Acola (Steve) Smash Ultimate - SSBU 

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i was reading through the japanese comments and one guy said "It was commendable that Tweek didn't slam the fist bump into Acola's face." LMAO my stomach i cant HAHAHA

If this isn't proof that Steve is sending this game down the shitter then idk what is

I don't blame Tweek for playing how he did because that's what Acola does all the time. Every Steve player never approaches. It's tilting having to be the only one that approaches. Then when you do approach it ends up being exactly where they want you to be every time.

This was probably the most disgusting match ive watched in a while

This is the first pro Ultimate match I've seen in like two years. Oh my god

The problem is that this character is BY DESIGN allowed exclusively to outright succeed with this strategy.

Nah man Tweek had to have murdered his whole family and his puppy or something. What was that all about lmfao, Tell us your story 🤣

良くも悪くもこの試合がコロナ後大会シーンを表している

The fact he even gave acola a fist bump shows the mental fortitude of tweek

Steve is painful to watch

Matches like these remind me that i can never be a top level player. Not because of the skill level required to be a top player But because i'd have to participate in whatever the hell this was

I took a break from watching smash a few years ago. I’m mainly a melee guy but I watch a few ult matches every now and then. This is my first time seeing a steve match and wow. That is all I can say. Like Jesus at 11:20 all tweek can do is just sit there as Acola keeps mining

Honestly with this type of MU's Tweek is losing to, he needs Cloud and not Seph.

whats with all the tweek hate? did someone piss off the japanese peanut gallery?

I mean acola is a good player but the playstyle is kinda... Make a house and wait until your opponent enter into the only space to punish So bored to see

dammmnn the dislike ratio on this video lmfao

The fact steve can do all that bullshit and sephiroth loses wing after a stock is just so sad to me, they said this character would be like a boss character but they butchered him. WHY MAKE HIM LIGHT AND HAVE AWFUL FRAME DATA WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING AT LEAST CHOOSE ONE

The 770 likes to 1k dislike ratio, people DESPISE steve lmao

Tweek looks like his family is in hostage and the only way to release them is to win this match

At what point is a player considered carried by a character? It’s obvious Acola is a very talented player, but this sort of domination isn’t something that he would be capable of without Steve. Maybe I’m just biased against his character, but I’m skeptical of anyone who saw such a meteoric rise after picking up Steve.

The sad part is that Tweek actually mained a character that is considered to have a good mu vs Steve: Pokemon Trainer

The amount of work you have to put in to not even win, but effectively play against steve is ridiculous.

That was a spineless fight.

Time out Steve is literally insane

The only ones being even more of a coward than Acola are the TOs that refuse to ban Steve

2:00 面白いと思ってんのかな

We can’t take results in this game seriously anymore because the game is NOT competitively balanced. Rankings are not a representation of one’s skill in late meta Ultimate.

Some of these comments and especially the ones by clear throwaway accounts attacking Tweek because he decided to play timeout against the bets character in the game whose only weakness is his speed are disgusting We had a while back people attacking a kid for the character he played, and now we have people attacking a person for playing optimally vs the best character in the game Going forward I legit wish more and more people with fast characters would just go for a timeout from minute 1 vs Steve so we can finally then really have the discussion about his effects for the health of the game and the scene I don't like the idea of banning characters, but just like Sonic optimally plays for timeout (but is also blessed with great tools to box) the optimal counterplay to Steve is a timeout, since on EVERY other field he has the rest of the roster beat

whoever kept zooming up on tweek's face like that - you are just a jerk. Not only is that rude to any player, but literally watch the throne was made possible partially because of tweek talks.

why is there no rule against lack of engagement. I loved ultimate before but this has lost a lot of value as a spectator imo

こういう試合が生まれる以上スティーブはいなくなった方がいい

I haven't watched smash in over a year. I couldn't watch this longer than 2 minutes.

I am surprised that Seph wasn’t able to do better in that particular match up, but Tweek probably hadn’t used him all weekend for the most part, and that looked annoying to play against anyway

I think if I'm losing to a Steve on stream I'm going to emulate this. If I can't beat em, make him unbearable to watch

Tweek really said “change that shit back” 😂 17:27

It's so shitty that the commentators are making it seem like the situation is Tweek's fault for being hesitant to approach. Like come on guys, I know you see what we all see.

This is the best commercial for Rivals 2 I've seen so far

03:44. Granted it wasn’t the sweet spot, but can we take a moment and acknowledge how ridiculous it is that one wing seph down smash didn’t break the block 😂😂😂

Wow Steve is literally the lamest character in Smash history

Fundies and actual skill isn't requiered in this game anymore. You just need your simple af gameplan and the character to execute it with. Matches have turned into campfests or rage inducing beatdowns and it doesn't even feel satisfying when the Steve loses but just as lame when you're forced to camp him out or hit him with disjoints. Watching Tweek is one of the only things that still brings joy to me in this game post FP2 and watching one of the most technically gifted and fundamentally skilled players back when this game wasn't filled with overtuned unpatched characters that change the rules of the game at their will is just more and more souring my desire to watch non Melee tournaments. The character variety in this game was it's biggest strength yet FP2 made it so that top level play is now a metacheck that leaves players who don't main characters who don't have a shot against DLC or one of the 3 characters that seem to actually have a good MU as a secondary out of a shot for No. 1. I watch Melee if i want a good collection of the same 8-12 characters at every event because the top and high tiers all have extremely fun chemistry against each other and not Ult's boring DLC. Ever since acola just came out of nowhere and took Leo's number 1 spot that used to actually mean something to me as a spectator it just feels like we've been stuck in a wrong timeline where actual storylines that i've watched for don't happen or just get plain delayed. I was so hyped for Leo, Tweek and Sparg0 to have an actual number 1 race at the start of the year with Sparg0's number 1 being only a matter of time but along this way i just stopped caring. Besides Leo just getting left in the dust nothing else feels natural anymore to watch. The only guy who i still think is a natural number 1 contender besides sparg0 to me is a god damn campy Sonic main to really hammer in how screwed being a spectator is rn. I enjoyed the game's unpatched day 1 Wolf, Peach, Pichu meta and the game during FP1. I miss the time when Palu and R.O.B. were the most controversial characters and when great sets wouldn't only happen in Top 64 but Top 8. The sets between especially these 2 players just show me why i stopped caring a long time if i even watched the tourneys anymore. Tournament had a really cool Summit-like vibe but when half of the contenders are either using Sonic or FP2 why even bother man. I sincerly hope that any lingering person who still defends a character that disables the word risk finally wakes up that it's killing viewership more and more no matter if he's ban worthy or not.

I'd rather have Cloud backair than any aerial Sephiroth has. Enough said.

i feel so bad for tweek

Just goes to show how unbalanced Steve is, that even a "bad mu" looks legitimately free at the top level And even when Tweek went time out Diddy, Acola could make 2 mistakes for every mistake Tweek made and would still win

That was tough to watch, great match none the less. The Seph struggling so hard against Steve despite having a bit better tools to break blocks vs the much hotter Diddy, and trying to play for the time strategy was a good try. Can't wait to see Tweek bounce back and wonder if anyone can slow down Acola

Steve isn’t even entertaining to watch

Almost 20 min for a 3-0 is bad i wish the match where a bit faster most of the time. Even if it Acola gameplan to not approach Tweek for x reason, the game favor to much certain characters that can avoid interacting with the opponent with there tools that the game offers them. I wish there was a system like guilty gear or something close to punishing like tha.

if we went off stereotypes, I would have never expected Acola from Japan to be this disrespectful. Bro has an angel on one shoulder and ddee on the other😅

genuinely the most disheartening set i've seen in the past 5 years

I'm so tired

now THIS is riveting gameplay. why are we ok with this?

Pokemon Stadium seems like a very good stage for Steve; why do players not ban it when playing against him?

今回AKを除くアメリカのプレイヤー全員が日本勢に負け、dabuz ken戦以外は日本勢が全部勝った "アメリカ"じゃなく、"NA"と縋る気持ちわかるよ

Is it even fun doing this? I know it is a competition, but i can't believe he gets any feeling of accomplishment

萎えるのは分かるけど頑なにポケスタ選ぶのはどうなんて思う。一周回って政治にも見える

18:02 Can somebody tell me the inputs that Tweek did to do this?

I miss the era of tweek and pokemon trainer 😭

God this character is insanely boring. Run away mine, run away mine, minecart, minecart, 60 percent combo a 3 year old can do, minecart, run away, run away, run away

Naw honestly, the true a**hole is kinda production ngl

No shade on Acola, hes very good, but its just not fun watching steve camp in a house.

This has got to be more lame than G&W vs Sonic. Or R.O.B vs anyone. Tweek is a better man than me, because win or lose, after matches like that-you're not getting a fist bump ever.

Why did youtube recommand to me the most depressing match ever

Steve covers so many hit boxes 😂

For real though did Tweek talk shit about Acola before? Acola looked like he went out of his way to humiliate Tweek.

I wonder how Tweek's Pokemon Trainer would have done in this MU

Crazy 🎉🎉🎉

does anyone know if there is a channel, in which only there is the sound of the game? this commentary is distracting I am trying to focus more on the gaming rather than on them If I mute the video, it is not the same

tweekがグータッチをあcolaの顔に叩き込まなかったのは偉かった

This is the worst set I've ever watched. Not sorry.

Heartbreaking!

Game 3 is literally the best metaphor I could think of for how it feels to be a marginalized group during a time of false peace

17:28 tweek gets pissed that they changed the camera angle on the stream

I love watching acola 😊 such engaging gameplay reminiscent of animal crossing new horizons

コメ欄見てて思うけど、やっぱスティーブって世界中から嫌われてんだなって思うわ笑笑

Fue durísimo lo del ultimo match tweet le dejo que farmee todo para que asi se acerca y pelear y aun asi es steve no venia y con ventaja ni intentaba jugar

Tweek should bring back Cloud or PT as a secondary to deal with GnW/Steve, and abandon Sephiroth. Seph only helps him vs BigD's Icies, but doesn't really cover any of Diddy's bad MU's.

Steve is not ok

Nah that’s ode. Point of the game is to box it out and interact with the other players. How the hell are you gonna build a wall to keep the players away from you. L gameplay no lie. Props to tweek for trying though and keeping his cool

so can we ban him now

You can't expect to play like this and get no hate from smash fans. I know it's "hate the game, not the player", but it is 100% the player deciding to win in the lamest and most cowardly fashion. Thank God Sparg0 is there to save Smash Ultimate.

Honestly, great job for Tweek trying to find a way out of that fight vs Steve. Personally, stage is the key to having a better match up with Steve, and PS2 was not it. That wall up from Acola at the right points of the two platform is going to be hard for any body fighting Steve and that's not including Steve's good frame data compared to others. Unfortunately, Tweek couldn't find a way to break that, because Steve is that good of a character. Not to say Acola isn't a good player, the amount of parries he was doing were spot on, but the brutal truth is the DLCs imbalance destroyed most of the cast. Why try harder with another base rooster character when the DLC can do less execution (ish) and deal the same damage or more. It's a common PvP knowledge. Good Job to both players and more to Tweek because he was dealing with a Steve. Acola's strategy is not underhanded, he played correctly, call it what you will, but he played solid with or without Steve.

Make Yoshi’s story and Lylat legal. As it is now. Steve just has to ban FD and its wraps

DAMN ................ LMAO CHASING THIS GUY DOWN is a FUCKING Nightmare* lmao

Ban Steve.

Steve is shameful.

海外でセフィロスってどんな評価ですか？

I’m ngl, tweek didn’t play good here either. Tweek played so much better at summit against acola. And I wonder why he freaked out at the time outs. Tweek usually never lets that shit get to his head. Acola was purposely trying to tilt him and it worked. He’s probably hoping to time out sonix when he plays him. But trolling Tweek like this was lowkey kinda funny but like Jesus dude lmao

If Steve is played like this he should be banned. A character that can choose to never interact unless they are highly favored in any given situation is not good. For the health of the game

the podcast of mkleo and tweek just made a lot of sense why tweek acted this way, tweek just really struggle against this match up

My uptilt is positive on shield so Im gonna spam it to shield poke :D

もしTweekが勝敗よりもスティーブに対するヘイト集めに重きを置いていたなら大成功だな このコメント欄の荒れ具体よ。 ま、いまさらそんなことやっても何の意味もないから勝ちに貪欲になっていただきたいところですけどね

Look what theyve done to my boy 😩😢

I was 1 of the people not crazy about banning wobbling. I was wrong. The melee community ended up doing the right thing for the game to survive. I was hesitant around banning Bayo. I was wrong. The Smash 4 community ended up killing the game b/c of that decision. I've been hesitant around banning Steve. And I am wrong. The Ultimate community needs to ban him asap.

Tweek, if you see this, I'm BEGGING you to pick up a different character! Seph and Diddy just aren't it in today's meta and it shows right here!

Tweek turned on the slow cooker and jumped in

2:00 Acola is kidding with us

11:20 this is good gameplay

I sometimes think about coming back to smash ultimate

The playstyle lowey kinda depicts what kind of person you are and im quite sure acola is such a chicken and a pssy😂

steve is so broken lmao