Wuthering Waves Is Making Waves. Lets Chat 

"Im a male type of person" - Gacha Smackem 2024

i got confused on the title for a second

My experience is that end game content for these kind of games is easier on pc, but early content with a lot of exploration and easy fights is fine on mobile

Only 8 days + plus a lot of free rewards + male character banner + being extremely free to play friendly. I'd say it did pretty good considering these factors.

To answer your question, um comment lol I don't know, but anywho April in Genshin had Arlecchino banner drop. A hyped character, powerful, and hot, easy to see why the money came in. May was just reruns of Wanderer and Baizhu. Good to see with all the problems it didn't keep Wuthering Waves from doing well

Genshin had the worst banner in the month of May, Star Rail had an alright but not too exciting banner either. People will say that Yinlin will sell alot but they never take into account what Wuwa/Yinlin banner will have to compete with during their banner time. Yinlin will have to compete with Firefly (the most hyped up character next to Acheron) + Jade banner, plus on Genshin, it's going to be Furina and Chlorinde. Oh, and ZZZ will release soon too. People (even Whales) don't have infinite money, at one point, are gonna have to pick which game they spend on. And if we're gonna compare this to other Gacha Games at launch, Wuwa underperformed by a lot. It can't really be made the excuse that "Wuwa hasn't had enough time yet", Star Rail made 40 million on their 1st week, Genshin made 60 million (all based on Sensory Tower, before anyone decides to dispute this saying it's made up). The game even lost to Naruto Mobile and Love and Deepspace for crying out loud lol. If any of you don't know what game Love and Deepspace is, it is basically a Husbando bait garbage game (not even a Waifu game which objectively sells WAY more). While Naruto Mobile is an 8+ yr old gacha game with barely any good gameplay in it. Wuwa had no reason to lose to these games especially at their Launch week where they're supposed to be at their peak and making the most money...

The cope is craaaaaazy

Naruto CN only is a crime

Yinlin vs Clorinde. Next month is gonna be hilarious. Can't wait to listen to how that's gonna be explained away.

Wuthering waves is just too f2p 😭

It's crossplatform friendly, I play on mobile during the day and pc when I'm home. It has cross save.

yeah, april was great for genshin because of arlecchino release. but now it's just reruns. that's why it's such a drop in may. but june will be even more interesting. yinlin in wuwa, clorinde in genshin, firefly in hsr, plus zzz release. that's gonna be crazy.

With Free three 5 stars + 50 pulls with Male husbando limited + bugs/glitches + optimization issues that make many can't play the game yet, getting 25 Million Dollars in just 9 days is really big. Enough budget to expand the team to improve localization and optimization for more better features in the game. I'm excited with the future of Wuthering Waves. They really did well 👍

Smack, the poll will be skewed without an option including PC AND Mobile. Most of us playing on both will vote to PC. But we use both.

I would like to raise a point, that PC players spend less generally than mobile players, in my opinion. So personally, even tho I do agree that Wuwa is probably more played on PC than other gacha games, it is very hard for me to agree it made more money than mobile, as mobile players are just known for their spending while PC players are a lot more frugal. Could be wrong tho, just my 2 cents.

Genshin drop off is because everyone spent on Arlecchino lol.

Well to be fair you aren't considering that Father(Arlecchino and Neuvillette banners ended. And the one we have now isn't as hyped. Now when Furina reruns these numbers for genshin will go up. That's why there's a decline. Not because they haven't updated something lol. Like the genshin community is always going to make hoyoverse money and a lot of it. Not every patch will be huge

Wuthering Waves might have an CyberPunk2077 Situation, crazy hype before the game came out then launched had had a lot of bugs and one big one then just dropped and didn't see it anymore, Just insane

Another thing. I'm not trying to defend genshin impact... but if we are being objective... wuwa was fighting against the 3rd rerun of baizhu and scara...

Genshin had THE softest banner possible with two characters who've had a lot of reruns in Wanderer and Baizhu and still made 50m. Yinlin is definitely a much more appealing banner, but it also isn't competing with those two and Bootyhill, it's competing with Firefly, Furina rerun (the most or second most broken character and most beloved character in Genshin with appealing constellations), and Chlorinde. Good luck! They should have just gone strength to strength and started with some combo of Yinlin, Jinshi, and Camellya over the first two cycles to put some wallet pressure out there and also to not give momentum to arguments that the game is not succeeding, which it already has from the buginess. Starting with Jiyan was a truly terrible call. As for the numbers, all I'll say is not a single one of the content creators who are suggesting these are great numbers (lower than Tower of Fantasy release) had this doing worse than Solo Leveling: Arise this month.

I tried to pull JiYan after finishing his story because there seems to some genuine shipping potential there. Unfortunately I got Verina instead, so alas my F Rover won't be exploring the world with JiYan for some time.

PC was actually far lower as a report earlier in the week matched what sensor tower had reported on with it being around 40 mil with pc reported on the lower end at around 10 mil or so. China, Japan, & S. Korea are all mobile markets. S. Korea's pc market is mainly in gaming cafes, while Japan is rather notorious for home pcs not being popular. And as far as markets go: China was the biggest, while US took second, Japan in third, and Korea in 4th. Genshin reran two men on they're 3rd reruns each with no new character and HSR put out 2 characters who weren't even promoted before this patch as the patch itself did most of the heavy-lifting. Genshin has not one, but two new characters coming out with Furina's rerun in June while HSR has Firefly in June alone. WuWa if it mimicks other games will actually see a decrease compared to launch do to people already buying gems from the top offs and well, saving pulls if Jiyan wasn't their cup of tea (Kafka was in a similar spot, while she did fine, she was on the lower side). Jiyan also was very disliked in CN (he earned the name of Deserter General) and HSR really doesn't need to do much with cutscenes when their boss fights basically act as the cutscenes and what cutscenes they do use are very meme worthy (Tingyun's neck snap and Firefly being impaled). Realisitically, June could go either way for WuWa as neither Japan nor S. Korea seemed to have favorable positions on it (especially the localization). Yinlin will make some money, but she's effectively on her own and July will seem even messier thanks to ZZZ going live the very same day as 1.1, while Jade is slated for HSR. August is Natlan more likely, so yeah. Again, WuWa is certainly a game, but it's currently in the Tower of Fantasy numbers rather than Genshin or HSR. Which is fine, but it is what it is.

At 87m and maintaining #1 for HSR by a 34m gap, Robin *has* to get more credit for the revenue. Gotta remember Robin realistically has the most marketing of all the HSR characters. So much marketing we've probably forgotten it's marketing. She has multiple iconic songs, one of which is a cornerstone of Penacony's popularity in the community and Robin is marketed within the game itself. Robin is probably featured in the most YT videos of any character not in the Astral Express. Personally Robin is also a fantastic design and I think she appeals to many people, especially the female audience who relate to a more traditionally feminine character, who by proxy will appeal to men anyways. MHY has also done the most insane art contest for Robin that i have seen in the entire MHY history. 100+ immaculate alternative Robin designs. This sounds cheesy but if you look into this art contest you'll see the execution is 12/10.

Meanwhile I'm sitting and chilling playing Wuwa on 24fps with lowest setting on minimum spec on mobile yet I had fun

Mihoyo is truly the apple of gacha games the thing just sells itself on the name the brain rot is dug in too deep into peoples brains where u have whales buying 100 copies of characters weapons to "prove" their loyalty an love 😂

The drop off in GI revenue shouldn't rly be attributed in this case. Everyone just spent on Alrechino during the last days of April, hence the huge sales in April. Following month is just reruns ...

I love this type of video of yours. Just chatting it up and also showing your analytical side. Keep it up smack! Peace, love and happiness!

Just curious, how many gacha players are day one spenders? I still haven't spent anything on WuWa as I wanted to wait to see how the game turns out, especially given how I was dealing with the BGM bug. If most gacha gamers are day one spenders then we still need to wait and see regarding the $24.8 million revenue as there's a small chance it will taper off, but if most gacha gamers are more like me then the numbers are quite optmistic.

⚠️ There are so many *DUMB* comments blaming the f2p-friendliness of the game. 🙄 (1) This is revenue for mobile ONLY. (2) MOST players are on PC. (3) Game is having issues in JP & compensating them with refunds. (4) Mobile is probably not even half their revenue and yet they made it this high up in EIGHT DAYS. I repeat: this is an 8-day game (a new IP & buggy mess) vs everything else that has a full month of sales. And, again, this is for mobile when most of their players (worldwide) are playing on PC. QUIT the doomposting. And quit blaming the f2p-friendliness of the game. F2p-friendliness increases player numbers and retention. It builds good rapport between the devs and the community. Whales and dolphins keep games alive. But f2p's determine what's popular. Many players don't care to spend (recklessly) in things that aren't popular (cuz that means there's less people to show off to). With how crazy WuWa's launch has been, and the fact that they're competing against Hoyoverse (and later on: Project MUGEN, Azur Promilia, 7 Deadly Sins, etc.), it's 100% a good call to build a good relationship with the community and build a large fanbase by being f2p-friendly. In fact, I see plenty of people (thanks to Kuro Games ' generosity) saying that they WANT to spend more money on the game. 😮 That's not a sentiment players would be having if the game wasn't f2p-friendly like it is now. 🤷‍♂️ A criticism I have would be that Kuro Games needs to add more packs in the cash shop to buy. It looks really bare bones right now. And for skins, I hope they do it like in PGR where you could use Black Cards (Astirite in WuWa) to purchase limited premium skins. 😐 There are already too many different currencies and upgrade systems in the game. It's confusing af. Just use Astirite and allow more packs and bundles in the shop that gives astirite for players to purchase stuff in the game (characters, weapons, and skins). F2Ps can attempt to save up for a skin if they can survive skipping banners. But more often than not, players will likely cave in and spend money to get everything they want. Just make sure the designs are irresistibly good and that there are many bundles and packs to buy. Let the whales whale so that the game can be financially supported and all players can be happy with a great product -- *f2p's especially* since they're the largest fanbase in every gacha community. F2P's bring the dolphins and whales to the game in the first place. They bring the numbers. If f2p's love the game, in the case they can't spend on the game themselves, they'll be your salesman and applaud others who do spend on the game. Cuz every dollar spent goes back into the game (that's what the community hopes for).

word 3 second cutscene but an hour of unskippable dialogue starrail and genshin need to work on that, that skip button in waves is a life saver mainly for like side quests

It also has been out only a week. Thoses are sales for the whole month

'F2P G0ds' and their influenced audiences are doing a wonderful job with keeping the game afloat by not letting Kuro part with a single coin.

New Gacha Smack mode unlock : WuWa White Knight 😆

Made more money on WW in 9 days than they did on PGR in the last year 💀

Once they release on console they're gonna make bank. I prefer pc over mobile especially for this game.

I would say 80-85% of the money a game makes is within the first week of the new patch(with a new character). So I would say Wuthering Waves money earned on this chart is going to be indicative of their next patch this month. It will be slightly higher because Yinlin>Jiyan + the strands of left over spending. So I would add what it got this month plus another 5-8M on top of that. Then add another 2-3 million in left over spending on Jiyan. So some where around 31-35 Million.

Nothing is better than a hot male character & love his ez kit; not trying to workout puzzles to win

Its always funny seeing gacha gamers desperately comparing a company's revenue that they didnt make nor contribute on just to feel superior to others😂

You cant say gacha gamers dont give a fuck about all male characters, when the first banner of genshin was literally venti( a bard with a medium model ) and got more 2x more money than jiyan lmaoo

hard to compare a game in a down time in the final patches of an area like Genshin against a game that have all the hype train of launch in his favor as WuWa had, only time will tell because i remember Tower of Fantasy release was the same but can it keep it up? let's check in 3 or 4 months, i hope WuWa gets better and other games launch because we need competition even Hoyoverse competing with themselves and still there is coming Zenless Zone Zero

I think saying Wuwa has mostly PC player is cope... You have no idea how much people use Phones now compared to PC. With these types of gacha games, its always the majority. Just because its "easier to play" on PC, doesn't change the fact that there are much more phone gamers than pc gamers or console gamers. Just look at pubg mobile, you would think that game would be better for PC right? Nope, its bigger on mobile. As for if 24m its good or not, i don't think it is. Remember, If we assume Wuwa has similar investment to genshin (100m) then its bad, considering 1.- Genshin made 200+m its first month pretty much selfunding the game and 2.- Kuro games has investors to respond to, while mihoyo is practically a full private company 3.- Launch days are usually the most profitable, it has happene with Gensihn, HSR and ToF. 4.- The next months is going to be rough for wuwa, the competition its releasing popular characters ( Clorinde/Furina + Firefly/Ruanmei), and ZZZ is releasing at the same time 1.1 patch, and later genshin 5.0 will come... its blow after blow after blow. Overall looks grim and i hope kuro throws some quality patch and content EDIT: Some things have changed, mainly that ZZZ and 1.1 won't release at the same time, however they will release the patch earlier which is worrying because they haven't fixed all the issues yet... we have to wait and see

I'm playing on PC but with my controller Edit When they release on the PlayStation then I'm going to play there exclusively. I'll also spend money there but until then free to play it is

My question is, do you think those numbers will continue or fall off somewhat over the next month?

Genshin just rerun banner but still selling alot lol. How about new character coming banner?

I went to play Genshin after playing Wuthering and it's pretty tough, Genshin is really slow and the climbing/stamina is dreadful. I wish Hoyo cooked on genshin the way they do on star rail.

It's always funny seeing ppl who don't follow Genshin talk about its sales and content. The revenue will not only depend on the current character releases, but upcoming ones as well. And not only are we on the verge of Natlan, but everyone is also waiting on this update's Furina rerun... 🤷

Man, keep seeing everyone talk about bugs and crashes and for me, I've been playing on my 3060 pc and I gotta say, I'm onion lvl 35 as of today and this entire time I think i only ran into 1 bug getting stuck somewhere and I could just tp out.

I don't know if you mentioned it, but the game has only been up for about a week and they still made 24mill on mobile.

I play on mobile thankfully OnePlus 12 has high spec so it runs Wuwa like butter. I notice China players phones have high specs for cheap which definitely reflects their phones usage style. Once it's optimized more ppl might try mobile

Is there a way to know PC revenue? I know mobile revenue is important due to mobile gaming culture in Asia, but WuWa is like one of the games most catered to PC audience.

I mean on one way your right, but I am wondering how much of that is factoring in the people not getting their pull currency so they might have spent again, the refunding they had to do, and now the leaked emails/bank accounts of jp players who asked for a refund on the weapon and could potentially block them from Japan due to their strict laws. Overall I want them to succeed and hope they can fix as many issues as possible and not lose one of the biggest gacha income sources. But if they do well we will see, I enjoy both Genshin and Wuwa glad genshin is seeing some improvements because of it. I definitely enjoyed Genshin's 1.0 story better especially characters reactions, but the side quests for Wuwa shows that they could write better for the MSQ.

HSR do be gettin that dough

Coping hard as shit 😂 that got me so good

5 fays later and the numbers have barelt moved. Wild

Here is one thing that might play in the balance. I play on PC, but I had to spend on my phone, because their system to pay on PC isn't working in some countries. They need you to input a zipcode, but only takes numbers, which is an issue for some countries who use letters in their zipcode (like Canada). It literally locks you out from buying anything on PC.

The truth is the poll is pretty useless and drawing a conclusion from the small poll does not work because CN just use mobile over PC. They won't magically switch to PC just because it plays better on PC because of their lifestyle, preference and etc.. If PGR can be played on mobile why would mobile players not play on mobile?? I think it's jumping to conclusions. It will not change even if Global plays more on PC as they are a small fraction of the revenue. But the revenue is still great but with how the launch of Wuthering Waves is going they could see a lower revenue if these bugs and mistakes insist. Hopefully it doesn't since more competition is always better.

biggest cope i ever seen on my entire life wuwa isn't hard game at all it's not even hard as souls game or monster hunter game also they already lost their CN and JP market yinlin banner ain't gonna be that big since it have to face firefly + clorinde + furina rerun

i think there are more mobile player, simply because how massive mobile market is compared to the other platforms. I don't think the gameplay really matters much in that regard.

I started on my gaming pad but i dusted of my old Alien Ware laptop off and I'm enjoying it so much more. It makes playing Wuthering Waves so much easier. I'm also surprised how well my old monster laptop handles the game. It seems to have a heart attack for the first 20 to 30 seconds then goes butter smooth.

Male characters really aren't that much of a debuff. Genshin made bank with its debut banner of Venti (who was a little boy), Love and Deep Space (a male only otome game) was #3 on the April revenue charts (and beat Wuthering Waves this month), and Jing Yuan is the most popular HSR character in CN (with Aventurine being #3, and Kafka at #2). Launch buff has a way bigger impact on revenue than gender. Genshin's revenue halved because it went from Arlecchino debuting last month (who was incredibly hyped up and one of the most popular Genshin characters in the game's history) to a double rerun banner of Wanderer (rerun #3) and Baizhu (rerun #3). Also, both Natlan, and the Clorinde/Furina banners are coming up, so the Genshin playerbase is mostly saving. Meanwhile for HSR, Robin was a very popular character (she got a whole album to hype up her banner), but Aventurine got tons of focus in 2.1's story compared to Robin in 2.2's plot. This month also saw the first half of Boothill's debut week, which should be 40-45% of his banner's revenue (since the first week of a banner altogether is like 80-90% of its revenue), which is a nice buff for HSR's income this month compared to last month. I wouldn't really expect Yinlin to be a big jump up, waifu-only players are saving up their currency and therefore can more easily get her for free, and she'll have lots of competition in June with Clorinde/Furina and *Firefly* (who is super popular).

Youre only digging your grave deeper with all these coping.

How the heck are people playing this game on console when this game dont got it yet!?

I think you need to poll for HSR and Genshin as well just to make sure your audience base not just accidentally skewed by your demographic

The real mvp here is Solo Leveling: Arise who outdid even WuWa. I love Solo Leveling, will you cover this game?

its a good sign tbh for them to make that much first banner was a male banner we got so much free stuff and a free 5 star

been waiting for this.

I’m on mobile (iPad air 5) because the day preinstall came out I was having issues even downloading it on pc. The download bar was bugged on the launcher and it just sat at 100% for HOURS. Ok the preinstall came out 6 am est my time zone. I got up at 6am to download it waited all day and went into the next day (launch day) and it was still stuck. Day of release I was panicking, decided to delete Genshin off my tablet (I play Genshin on ps but I had it on my iPad so I can play in bed) The mobile version downloaded in 30 minutes with ZERO issues. Been playing wuwa on mobile since.

im more surprised of solo leveling than anything else

reminder wuthering waves dropped on the 22nd/23rd so those numbers being in an end of month round up is still hella impressive!

I play on both, when it comes out on PlayStation, It’ll be my main

I know I did my part, I spent $125 in the first week for an astrite pack, bp, and daily login pass. All of that spending was on PC (I haven't even touched the game on mobile yet) and while I know it's a drop in the bucket, I'm sure many players are just like me with similar spending all on the PC version

The game honestly made more money than I expected it too, especially with their first banner being a male character

bro forgot that hsr and genshin exist on pc .

I’m exclusively mobile. Usually play on my iPad Pro. For just a few days, wuthering waves is doing well. I hope they continue to flourish even with all its shortcomings and bugs

For 8 days and a featured banner with male character it's amazing honestly + Lots of people are waiting for Yinlin and 1.1 characters looks to be bangers so It'll only get better IF they can get their shit together internally. WuWa is an amazing game at core, they have all it takes to make it a massive success.

Plus many CC's are promoting this game to be F2P

tbf tho, back when tof released they were fighting prime genshin, tof got attacked from hoyoshills left and right, misinformation everywhere and tof didn't have tectone at that time (tectone was still playing genshin with original content too, not reaction andy lmao) but tof got around 35m in 2 weeks only for global. 10m for glb and 10m for cn is really bad for game that trying to compete genshin with similar level of development budget and marketing. they should've released yinlin as first banner (by releasing yinlin people who lost 50:50 might swipe, but now people just save and have enough for 160 pulls, f2p doesn't count in revenue), CN with jiyan have bad taste due to bad story he has/had. as CN representation and a general, from CN side, they made him like coward general and unable to form strategy while being a general, not to mention they made a character that sacrifice himself for the country as villain. jiyan is top 3 least favorite character below the lion boy and skar

if PC is gonna be the focus then NA will be the main money maker, but that's simply not who Gacha games appeal to.... so im skeptical on the future sustainability of these revenues. Jinlin's banner will be the ultimate litmus test.

in my perspective it doesn't matter as long the revenue is going up

Wait for mommy yinlin and then you'll see the real money

Even though this game gave so many rewards, I actually really wanted to spend on WuWa, which says a lot. It's a really good game. Btw. I play on phone too, so yeah.. that's how good it is

I play on PC but when i spend i open my mobile app and do it that way to get the google play points. Some others might be that way too.

Honestly I do play on both PC and mobile, However PC works better for me mostly cause it's on a bigger screen and I would play on console if it was available, but WuWa made me try PC gaming for the first time ngl and I LOVE the experience! I didn't think I would ever touch it until WuWa changed that. I can't wait for the future of this game. Loved Jiyan when he came out and I don't really care if he is a spamming character. I just love the guy cause of design and his demo was absolute hype! But I agree, this game does also have it's flaws rn, but I'm willing to get through cause idk abt y'all, but I'm having a grand time. Just all I ask is please PLEASE Kuro games, FIX THE GODDAMN VOICE LINES IN CUT SCENES, especially with the cutoffs and female MC and I stg they better fix the auto skip in said cut scenes. Hopefully they do because I see potential. A LOT of potential. (Anyway thank you, anyone, who took time outta their day to read this! I usually never comment but this I had to and when I do, it's a whole essay so I'll be quiet now 😊)

Wuthering Waves got me to finally jump into content creation. It's because of how F2P friendly the game really is for players. I hope they can adjust their business model to stick around for the long haul!

For a first release 24 mil is really good, setting the bench mark almost half what genshin is making and this is the first version(the worst one by default) it can only go up from here

im a collector so iill end up trying for all banners when i can

I think Robin is one of the fan favorites. I was surprised to see her trailer surpass all the other character trailers besides sparkle. It’s even surpassed Acheron’s in views. With that being said, I hope WuWa has continued success . I love that game and Star Rail. Wuthering Waves just need to come to console but first simplify and explain some of the terminology, and fix the bugs. A lot of peoole are confused about some of the wordings. Mr. Pokke didn’t even know what vibration meant in Withering Waves 🤣

Low sales is a testament of how generous the game is. The real income showcase comes after the yinlin banner when all players have less currency to pull.😊

Where are all those excuses when Genshin's revenue drops? It was just 9 days , it's more of a PC game and not mobile so this is just a tiny fraction etc etc. You do realize Genshin, HSR, Nikke and pretty much all the top games have PC clients right? Ya'll on some top shelf copium right now trying to salvage your advertising of WuWa as the "genshin killer" when the launch week only made 24.8M worldwide. Do you people really expect a game that has become the laughingstock of CN and is under heavy fire on JP will be able to compete with Clorinde and Furina plus Firefly on HSR and then ZZZ in July? The game is good, it will definitely do very good overall in the future and it will have its audience and be a successful game but it is in no way a "genshin killer". All you CCs are the root cause of the toxicity in the community here in the west. You were dickriding WuWa pre-release advertizing it as the "genshin killer" and as the second coming of Jesus and are still trying to control the narrative even with everything going on proving you all wrong. In summary, game is good, everyone is allowed and encouraged to play whatever they enjoy more and you CCs gotta stop parroting bullshit to salvage Kuro's reputation. They ain't your friends.

12:15 if I had to guess, post- arlecchino depression and wuthering waves launch

im playing it on mobile and i enjoy it alot and it performs really good and im grinding it alot

the cope is strong in this one haha, As if that G game and HSR dont have pc clients too 😂

wow, these people really try to defend Wuthering Waves low revenue 🤣🤣

yeah alot of people dont feel a need to spend yet. even with yinlan we'll be able to or near able to guarantee her even as f2p. 1.1 numbers are going to be real telling so hopefully Jihnsi and Changli are going to be really solid and fun characters.

GachaSmack, allow me to preface this by saying a lot of your points are quite compelling for the case of why wuthering waves has had an elusively bad start. Jiyan's somewhat undesirable desigon/poor marketing, China revenue and global revenue being oddly close, the abundance of free pulls discouraging people to spend, the frequency of performance problems thwarting player count, and many others. That being said, if you are going to take a poll you have to acknowledge the community bias. You are polling to specific individuals that 1. Use youtube in english, 2. Consume GachaSmack content, 3. Play or have played Wuthering Waves 4. Noticed that the poll was made within the time since you opened it. 5. Are willing engage with the poll. Having 1500 responses substantiates the accuracy of an unbiased poll, but since it is difficult to eliminate bias in this poll, it is unwise to extrapolate the findings to the broader population. If you were to take a similar community poll for Honkai Star Rail and Genshin Impact using the same format and use them as a basis for comparison, then you could make a much stronger argument. Also, not trying to be an ass, just hoping to be a bit informative. :D Love the content as always!

I love the game so much . I love open world like genshin but the problem that genshin have it .that make me love wuw more “the movement “ Every thing tooo perfect to me the speed the walk even the characters look adults and that what i need it in genshin since alone time Wuw wins for me

About that Genshin part of the video. So true, I just came back to Genshin from literally not playing it since its launch and I'm having sooooo much fun just enjoying the world and 100% stuff and doing quests and chores

Have you heard about hsr with Bleach

how Yinlin just made magical waifu revenue ends up not place gameplay like Jiyan ease to play?

We can do all the mental gymnastics in the world but it doesn't change the fact that it didn't perform as expected. Wuwa, on the same time frame and on the same platforms, made LESS money than ToF on launch. It cost almost just as much as Genshin on release. Next month ZZZ will release, Firefly will release, Furina rerun, and Natlan is on the horizon. Wuwa has no other chance of making higher in the foreseeable future. The game will eventually settle down and stabilize in a quality a bit lower than ToF. I'm not saying it's bad since ToF to this day is still alive and kicking but we shouldn't expect a significantly higher game quality than what we have now. It is what it is.