Jonathan Coachman, Goldust & Big Van Vader. What a Murderer's Row. This is the orignal Main Event Mafia. Sidenote about Vader in WWE: It is absolutely insane that one of Vader's BEST appearances & matches was against _Heath Slater_ in *2012.*
Honestly I'm just gonna bump in here just to say I loved Heath's time where he just called out dudes and got his fucking ass whooped by legends like Sid, Vader, APA, etc.
@@TravisBroski Me too, that run was great. Heath is fantastic and he made everyone look like a million bucks, its just mind boggling that out of all the WWF/WWE Stars that Vader had matches with, Heath Slater was the one who gave Vader his best match in the company.
Ok... ok... two things: 1. I SWORE it was "If it's not white, it's not right." 2. I was looking to see if maybe the quote would pop up on his wiki, but fucking get this, according to Chavo himself, he said in an interview he, HE HIMSELF, pitched to dress up as a KU KLUX KLAN MEMBER TO GET MAXIMUM HEAT... holy fuck...
6 weeks later, Eric Bischoff would be fired by Vince and thrown into a dump truck December 12, 2005 RAW. Would love to see the boys review that episode if they haven’t already.
I seriously wanna see them review the Smackdown episode where Vince goes absolutely BALLISTIC at Paul Heyman and threatens to have the Undertaker's wife raped by a motorcycle gang.
The use is Christian is insane. Like as much as I was even coming around to him as a kid and recognizing how good he was, the fact that he legit destroyed himself in the Attitude Era for the company and was still treated like that never occurred to me. He was in the Triangle Ladder Match, TLC 1-4, *and* the first Money in the Back earlier that year. Dude, I'd walk too.
No kidding. It's such a WWE thing even back in those days that they'd get pissed because the fans picked someone the company didn't. Fuckin' ridiculous.
@@Slagomancer this why Curt Hawkins said there is no such thing as reaching for that brass Ring. They handpick it like how Vince Picked Roman as guy and How Hunter picked Rollins as his guy
@@alphawilliams7923 I distinctly remember turning on Cena bc of how he ran through Jericho and Christian. And by the end of the year, they were GONE. It was like my smart mark awakening.
Christian was and is still great too. He was in great shape, could work and talk and he got over all on his own. I guess Vince viewed Edge as the star and Christian as the other guy. They passed bringing him back in 2021, at that point I knew nothing changed.
Hated him and Matt Hardy, the less popular members of tag teams who were just supposed to fade away in the mid card but got over on their own- one of his biggest pet peeves 😂
That whole Vader/Coach/Goldust beating up Batista in 2005 segment sounds like something from a season mode cutscene that NewLegacy would do for fun. Edit- 1:06:16 and Bryan Alvarez said Vince lost his mind statement in 2005. He would probably wish for those days back if 2005 Bryan Alvarez had to see what RAW/WWE would become over the next two decades. 1:07:52 And we wonder why Jim Ross is or was the way he is. Greatest commentator of our generation and the shit he had to go through in WWE. Vince Mcmahon is somebody to do a character study on.
36:00 -Rob Conway rant 38:40 - RANDY NEWMAN!? 43:50 - OH MY!? Could it be- THE BURGER KING! 1:00:57 - Vince wants stone cold to come out of retirement, so he can do the JOB to coach (you read that right)
just some things in my mind: - the music used for that Ric Flair/HHH promo is called "Angel of Death" - "RANDY NEWMAN?????" - Jesus, we're about a month away from Eddie passing. i pretty much was only keeping up with WWE through message boards and the games around here - Coachman, Goldust, and Vader is that Nu School team from SVR 2009 - it's crazy to hear "low morale" in oct 2005. if they weren't leaving this year, i think they'd be leaving in the next two.
True story: Like a month before this show i was in either like NODQ or Wrestling-Edge chat room. Like 7-10 people in a live chat just talking wrestling. Just talking shit like how y’all do on the show, and i randomly say “they should bring back Goldust lol”. Then at random another name came in my head because other people were laughing in the chat, i say “bring back Vader lol” Like 3 weeks later Goldust and Vader come back together and I lost my shit. I always wondered those other guys in the chat thought i worked for WWE or there was someone in the chat that worked for WWE and took my crazy thoughts seriously and took it to Vince. I swear on my life this happened and I thought it was the craziest thing i ever seen happen.
So rumor has it for the concrete crypt match, there was a small wall of glass. So Bearer was fine the entire time. Concrete filled between the glass wall and gave the illusion that he was being buried.
I’m glad reviews like this are up, honest about the actual quality of the product of the time. “Modern wrestling can barely pull a 1.0 so it must SUCK!”. In a time before the internet really popped off and TV still being king any crap from a major brand was gonna sell. Most of the good old days certain wrestling fans strive for were filled with this with a few genuine gems sprinkled in… it’s probably true for any era of wrestling besides the prime years of the attitude era and the Monday night Wars which even then are kinda overrated at times.
@thatguyfromak5190. But you’re only talking about the bad stuff back then. Yes the Ruthless Aggresson Era wasn’t perfect, but the good stuff was fantastic back then. Yes you had 2 minute Diva matches, and a ton of squash matches on TV. But you also had fantastic stories like the Edge, Lita and Matt Hardy love triangle, the Mickie James and Trish stalker story, the Cena and Edge feud. So yes you had bad stuff, but the good stuff was fantastic. Where as today, you get a lot of decent matches, but the stories are boring, there are no characters to invest your time in (except for Reigns, or the part time guys) But look at the roster in 2005, Cena, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, RVD, Big Show, Kane, Ric Flair, Mick Foley, Edge, Kurt Angle, Batista, Taker, Orton, JBL, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit. Apart from Flair and Foley the rest are all in their primes in 2005. Were in 2023 we’ve got Reigns, okay, Lesnar is still there, okay, Rey Mysterio is still there, okay, Lashley is still there, okay, Orton is still there but is currently injured, okay, Edge came back, okay, AJ Styles is there, cool. Then the roster goes down hill from there, Rollins, McIntyre, Gunther, those guys are okay. Then you’ve got Cody Rhodes, a guy who debuted back in 2007 and looked bland as shit his whole first run in WWE, leaves and creates his own promotion where he was overshadowed in a promotion he helped to create, comes crawling back to WWE and he still is bland as fuck. Then you’ve got a bunch of guys who could’ve been something but Vince killed them with 50/50 booking and are just there now, in Sheamus, Ziggler, and Nakamura. Then you’ve got Stone Cold LA Knight doing an impression of Austin and Rock because no one is original anymore. Then you have guys like Ricochet, who can’t cut promos, has no character, all he can do is dives and flips. And then you have Miz who has overachieved in his entire WWE run, been given everything and yet is very bland and ordinary, and how he managed to overachieve I’ll never know. So today’s roster is filled with names no one cares about, apart from Reigns and the part time guys. WWE in 2005 was like Friends, but WWE in 2023 is like Joey.
Always fun to see wrestling fans born on days of wrestling events. I was born the same night as Survivor Series Deadly Games 1998. So ya know, the same night Rock won his first WWF World Title
Apparently the mole scene in Austin powers was inspired but Mike Myers himself, he had a mole, and was out when he was on SNL and overheard some fans recognize him until one of the people in the group was like "nah that's not him, he has a gross mole on his face" or some shit like that.
I’m sure he’s been in more, but as far as I can remember, the only times Batista has been in a Retro Review he’s gotten his ass kicked by The Coach, Vader, Goldust and Sylvain Grenier dressed as Santa Claus
I definitely remember being one of the ones to watch this live. I was in the fourth grade and everybody was caught up on WWE. I recall them playing IT (1990) right before trick or treating and came home to watch RAW. My fandom was at it's peak as this time. Don't remember the costume I had though lol.
04-05 is genuinely one of the most dog shit periods of WWE ever. Other than Cena and Batista I'm the beginning of the year, it's an endless series of duds.
I still remember how baffling it was that Christian was moved to Smackdown, WWE have been building his feud with Cena since January in the Royal Rumble of 2005 and their interactions/Christian's promos on Cena were great and received very well by the live crowd, it seemed like the obvious next step to have a Cena - Christian feud on Raw, even back then when I was a kid I was disappointed, despite being a big Cena fan and having a hard time liking heels.
For some reason I remember that 3 faces of Foley video segment so vividly, but have no memory that it was from this show. I remembered at the time thinking "woah this wrestler is also 3 different wrestlers? Thats really cool". Definitely forgot about those promos though lol.
i love that Paul broke kayfabe while still kayfabeing the concrete. He never had a button, the concrete emptied into a clear container in front of him, the camera man fucked up and showed the panel when he walked around to the side of the box. the concrete never touched Paul
Being a bisexual man, that point about vince thinking christian is ugly is crazy to me. When he has that short hair look in 05 he was handsome ASF...and hell, in aew now hes a DILF, which is ironic considering his stance on peoples fathers 😂
I now remember this show cause Jerry wearing a BK Mask and Vader falling on his ass while getting out of the ring. Also man poor Stone Cold no matter if is his bad face run in late 01-02 his walkout until 03 or his refusing to loose to Coach in 05 they find someway to mock or embarrase him on the way out. Also for a good watchalong would be the Raw after Mania 23 which had JR with a shot voice Vince wearing a fadora and showing his bald head which looked very pointed and a double battle royal which the Hardy's one that night.
As bad as the Johnathan push was, I want you guys to react to the segment with Vince dressed up as a doctor and pulling random items out of JR’s ass and making out with a nurse.
Late 2005 was a weird ass period for WWE, and hardly any of it was good. The McMahon family dominated the first few weeks of their USA return and no one bothered to confront them, leading to really bad television.
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 Raw started the year off awesome but by late ‘05 they were struggling hard. Eric’s run as a heel gm got stale trying to get Kurt to beat Cena for the belt. Kane & Big Show only beat jobbers during tag title matches. Even tho Flair had a couple good matches with Triple H, he didn’t defend the IC title much. Women’s division was building up the Trish & Mickie story. Things didn’t pick up good for Raw until about Wrestlemania 22 or so. Smackdown was more enjoyable to watch around this time.
The reason the SmackDown guys were having a match at Taboo Tuesday was because they had started the SmackDown vs Raw storyline for Survivor Series. It began on Raw Homecoming when Bischoff turned off the lights during a six man tag featuring SmackDown wrestlers. The brand feud leads to a pretty great Survivor Series Elimination Tag Match. 29:23 the feud goes on to Survivor Series. Flair wins what ends up being a Cage Match and Triple H wins the Last Man Standing Match. Both matches are two of Flairs last really good matches. The ridiculous thing about the Austin vs Coach being changed to Batista vs Coach also saw the finish change so Batista won.
Am I the only one who used to listen (audio only) to these, and be totally surprised when the voices didn't match? I thought the voice of John Blud was James, and Tony was John Blud, and James was Tony. What? No one else? Yeah, me neither. I have a sick stomach in my feeling.
To think they were gonna have Stone Cold even be in a "match " after almost 3 years just for it to be against Coach.. and lose on top of that? Vince was on a lot of something.
As far as the concrete crypt match goes, I can't remember where I heard it, but I thought they shot the Paul Bearer close ups before the show and then had a dummy actually sitting in the concrete live. Might have been Prichard's show I heard this.
This episode of Raw was my first and only WWE show I attended and was actually on TV I was the little kid doing the "you can't see me" during John Cena's entrance for the main event. I remember it being a blast
The terrible Mankind promo is almost a word for word rehash of a promo Foley used in smokey moutain wrestling as Cactus Jack when he was preparing to face Chris Candito (for anyone who has the Mick Foley's greatest hits and misses dvd from the 2000's, it plays before that match). Everyone knows Superfly's finisher was the splash and Hacksaw's was the 3-point clothesline, but you wouldn't have a clue what Kamala's finisher was because I've never seen him do it before and all reasoning points to him having never done this in his life. According to Legends of Wrestlemania for the xbox 360, Kamala's finisher is "Air Africa", which translates to a diving slash off the top rope. This is a kin to Paul Bearer's 450 splash finisher in WWF Attitude for the ps1. I can't believe they referenced Goldust getting thrown in a port-a-john by Stone Cold 6 years prior when that was 1 segment in the middle of a random raw of a rivalry that never even really existed beyond that 1 time and Goldust wasn't even Goldust for that segment --- he was just Dustin Rhodes with no paint and dressed in a diaper as "the baby new year". Why'd nobody point out that the divas did a cheerleader spot like 5 times to not so hint at the fact they wanted the fans to pick cheerleader outfits? Also, Jerry Lawler being a pervert was hilarious to everyone who isn't a loser snowflake. He had some all time lines all the way from '98 into the mid-2000's. The mentality that him being a pervert is offensive is the heart of the reason the attitude era died and isn't coming back --- everything offends someone, even if it's played to the best of their abilities and the "bad" characters always get theirs in the end. Nobody's going to bring up the fact that when Austin first started eating shit, in 2001, the Kiss my ass club had just started and it didn't officially die until 2007 and even then you can find old messageboards talking about rumors that it was supposed to live on and be adopted by Steph TWICE, but - she ultimately refused the idea for good -- when she had children. What a missed opportunity, let's just say it outright. We had Vince Mcmahon roid needle trackmark ass for 6 years when Steph was pumping on all cylinders with the blonde hair?!? For shame. This is hardly 3 years after the roster was fully intigrated with WCW and ECW entirely... nobody from either of those bands has survived, save for Rey Mysterio. Think of the roster in 2001, 2002, and 2003 and look at the people on this show... I was never a guy who said WWE burned people down on purpose, because they weren't "home grown" in WWE, but - it's almost undeniable -- thinking of the proven talent they went through in such a short period of time with virtually no retention. Sabu, Tazz, Van Dam, O'Haire, Storm, Hogan, Steiner, Nash, Goldberg, Mysterio, Bagwell, Benoit, Eddie, Rhyno, Page, Malenko, Saturn, Flair, Booker, and Awesome; all guys who could've been on top through to '05, almost all guys who were out by the time it even started. The only survivors were Benoit and Eddie for defecting before it was mandatory (even then, they spent their first 2 years as stinkface jobbers taking crazy spots ala Hardy Boyz), Booker T (caught hell and was destroyed in succession by everyone with a name, before his push came in), Ric Flair (Triple H's handywork as well as being impossible to kill. WCW spent it's last 3 years alive trying to bury Flair and couldn't do it), and Van Dam (jumped at the right time and Vince had a vested interest in him since '97. The one guy who blew it for himself.).
u guys should reveiw armageddon 2006...inferno match, last ride match, and a tag team finish from two no teams....pleaaaase im watching it rn and gotta know what yall would say lmao
