These are the original pre-war kata of Gunto-no-soho before they were revised in 1940. Originally, there were only five kata, just as was shown, but because of observations made during the Second Sino-Japanese War, two additional kata were added, bringing a total of seven kata. In 1952, these seven kata plus an eighth kata became Toyama-ryu. Gunto-no-soho 1940 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cyn_LdhoF8I.html Toyama-ryu 1952 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Slw7aoUrLZk.html
@@baru6891 they’re like forms used to demonstrate different moves/techniques within your arsenal. A common misconception is that they are done to mimic actually combat which practitioners know is not true however certain kata do have contexts.
It is quite plausible. It is very likely that WW2 saw last use of katana (as gunto) in real combat. Most likely such events were so few that nothing really remarkable was noticed.
@@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 It's possible, but the Japanese were notorious for being reeally good with rifle and bayonet. Their sword was mostly a back-up weapon. Look up "the Marco Polo Bridge incident" for an example of the Da Dao in action.
Are these techniques from the 1944 Gunto Soho manual? Trying to translate it and some details seem to look a little different than in this film. Especially footwork, or it may have been different variations of these techniques?
These are the original pre-war kata of Gunto-no-soho before they were revised in 1940. Originally, there were only five kata, just as was shown, but because of observations made during the Second Sino-Japanese War, two additional kata were added, bringing a total of seven kata. In 1952, these seven kata plus an eighth kata became Toyama-ryu. Gunto-no-soho 1940 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cyn_LdhoF8I.html Toyama-ryu 1952 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Slw7aoUrLZk.html
It is very similar to Toyama Ryu, but after talking to some other people, I found out it is called Takayama Ryu. ja-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/海軍高山流抜刀術?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
As mentioned by others this is showing kata and not actual sword techniques. There is an application for unsheathing and striking but it wouldn't be in battle nor could it be used if the sword was behind the shoulder of the soldier. It's hard to imagine a scenario in which a sword used in battle would not be drawn prior to the immediate need. In a self defense use (or CQC) one may need to employee the sword very quickly. As the sword is drawn by the right hand the sheath is pulled away by the left hand. Ideally the tip of the blade cuts the throat of the opponent and the sword would be ready for whatever comes next. That's more along the lines of the Western movie genre fast draw genre except the Japanese actually practiced drawing their sword quickly in hopes of making the first and only cut. The cowboy face off and fast draw is a largely the fantasy of the writers of books and movie scripts. These two links are close to what I intend to communicate; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cplemZRbG9g.html In this example combatants "meet in the fat middle" of the field of battle with swords drawn. In the first contact the warrior in green loses a finger as soon as the blades engage each other due to the unusual speed and skill of the other. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TSxtR_VxCDo.html
Both the katana (ahem~~ shin gunto for those nitpicking) and saber forms used in the war are boiled down to simple cuts and thrusts compared to their traditional counterparts. Since they had become a weapon of execution, intimidation and authority.
Chiburi was **supposed** to clean off the blood but it has been proven that it really doesn't. They would have most likely had clean off the blood using a cloth most likely. (I am excluding the arm joint Chiburi, as I don't know the name, as I believe that not one would really risk cleaning a sharp blade like that.)
hey this is pretty cool! They held this at texas?! I heard about this story once but I heard you guys during world war 2 were kidnapped by Germans and Japanese Armies saved you guys correct? In the texas point of view, what do you guys think about japan?
With a military sword (gunto) it was suspended on a leather strap or metal chain from the belt with a regain hook also on the belt to lift the sword to a higher position as seen here.
I was actually wrong, he is probably a sub-lieutenant or higher. It looks like there are two stars on his collar tabs which are blue with a single gold stripe, so that's sub-lieutenant. it turns out petty officers/NCOs didn't carry swords in the Japanese naval infantry.
austin the army certainly did hence why there was a lot of swords when you look at photos in of the Chinese and British front. The shin gunto 95 was brought to be used by NCOs as nationalism was rising.
It’s effective for chopping off the heads of helpless civilians after some massacring and raping like they did in Nanking. Probably not that useful elsewhere.
More likely soldiers would be able to remember what to do, just not exactly and pretty like in the forms. For example like kata1, all he needs to remember when it's time to draw out the sword is to just cut upward and chop straight down, what happened after that is irrelevant because swords and bayonet are for suicidal attacks when ammo ran out
those were just exercice training like iaido, but those swords where never meant to fight in the front lines, they were officers swords, they only shoped surrendered enemys as far as i can tell
@@ducontra666999 the officer katanas were more for ranking symbols. There were actually two types of military katanas, the shorter one with a 26 and quarter inch blade and nine and quarter inch handle. This type of katana were used more often in the battlefield by the soilders and some officers. The ranking symbol katana mirrored the traditional katana in terms of length (28 and half inch blade and 10 and half inch handle). The reason for the 2and quarter inch shorter blade was to match the size of the older kyu gunto(the cutlass/katana hybrid) which the soilders and officers were actually trained to use.
@@gamer7916 That's because rifle and bayonet is more important that officer's sword. The fact officers had rudimentary sword training tells that combat use was considered. It is quite plausible that Shin gunto was used in combat as well - not just as murder weapon.
@@zombieexecutioner2560 I think its more of a safety mechanism, katanas could fall out their sayas if the mouth wasn’t tight enough, and in war it is more handy for a sword to have a locking mechanism
@@tristankramer4636your on the right track the koiguchi often opens up over time and takes a process to fix so they used a knot with their Sageo and it’s basically an evolution of that.
Looks like very ugly iaido. Number 3 is meaningless. You cannot slash after deep thrust, because the blade is in the body. Must retrieve the blade first.
Are you dumb? This is a showcase of an IJA officer using a Gunto, not a samurai who has trained his whole life. Officers had simple training in using them.
