Xbox Series X Backwards Compatibility Tested - And The Performance Is Extreme 

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Ye they just had look how fast it boots to a game. Nothing even close to this kind of professional analysis.

df has fucked up sometimes, like saying that the series x is as powerful as a 2080 super by playing an unoptimized mess for nvidia gpus like gears 5. still, i do respect them a lot and they are the best channel for anything related to game graphics and performance analysis.

Most have just uneducated fools running youtube channel. This guy can write a scientific article on this stuff and get it accepted to Nature magazine.

@santhosh sridhar . Definitely reaching, but it's not unreasonable to try and ballpark performance.

yambu007 uraverageconsumer does an excellent job

NX gamer does a better job than "muh bad lighting" for Halo Infinite

@@snakebebop yet here we are...

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Gamer's Nexus, Hardware Unboxed are both less biased and more accurate than DF.

Unfortunately, many (if not most) gamers ignore anything that's not New and Shiny. So you get console gamers who won't play anything that isn't new or remastered from their childhood, and PC gamers who won't play any games that aren't live services, AAA tentpoles, or spectacles.

Unfortunately some PS fanboys believe that Backward Compatibility is a bad thing.

@@tcbvgames Hey, I'm still playing fallout New Vegas and Halo firefight on my PC.

@@dr.doctor4878 PS3 and PS2 were backwards compatible, tho!

Wait until he hear about the PC2

DO IT

😂😂😅

Do it game pass and their exclusive lineup is insane this time.

I can’t switch to the Xbox because of the ps 5 exclusives, the last of us, horizon, uncharted

Zazaguven21 uncharted is garbage maybe if you said ratchet and clank or little big planet then I’d agree with you

Seeing GTA 4 running at 60fps blew me away, I have to replay that game now.

Yeah pretty mind blowing. Hyped for the future of xbox

How is this impressive? What else did you expect? It's 1080p in games released years ago. If anything, this only shows how badly underpowered Xbox One X is.

And so are PC games across varieties of gpus and cpus

@@CourtCjbLand I wish it got a resolution boost like rdr up to 4k

lool

Thats youtube for you

Thanks for all your hard work DF. You're a gift to us.

Guys I think you forgot to check the embargo, you can’t show the dashboard

@Teddy Holiday You couldn't scream "I'm a fucking reddit virgin" harder than with that comment you just made

Nope. You still have to pay money to play online.

Included in Game Pass so doesnt really matter

@@xxminecrafthype443 They announced it a few weeks ago.

@@dannolest1409 It matters for the people who can't afford Game Pass.

Christian Bethel Who the fuck can’t afford game pass but can afford not only the series x, but several games that they’d like to play.

@RICKY oh my god go away with your archaic views and sony shilling. Don't put up with mediocrity when you could have thousands more games accessible to you if Sony actually wanted too...its also not just about you, what about younger generations just getting into games now? 10 year olds who were born just after Red Dead Redemption and just before Skyrim was about to release (sure skyrim has long outlived its welcome) but these are the types of games that released then, and many inaccessible still on PS4/5....but theres a whole generation of games before then that millions have never played yet! And Xbox are the only console at the precipice of that catalogue and preservation...

@RICKY that's a very shallow look at it. The point of being able to play new and old is so you can take your game library with out through the generations. Stop looking at backwards compatibility as a negative just because your preferred console can't do it.

@RICKY cope harder, Sony fanboy.

@RICKY I don't care about frame rates, I just want to be able to play my collection of games on one machine. But if you prefer having a giant stack of consoles and swapping between them, be my guest. I'm sure Sony appreciates your undying loyalty and will be more than happy to send you a paycheck.

Ya cuz xbox only have few good games😂 And games for ps5 Are always good and are exclusive

343 likes dont destroy it guys!

@@derauserwahlte4867 Rip for that.

Its that long because its sponsored by Microsoft looks like they bought DF with Bethesda or they leak their ass to be bought .Most likely M$ has them in pocket already .

@@roberts.3324 wrong.

Hallelujah

But will we have more bugs? Now THAT's the real question. ain't no real Bethesda game without bugs you know.

MichaelZu it has been proven that frame rate can bug their games. Just look at how the physics broke when you went above 60fps in their games.

@@TheAlienGangster Yep frame rate caused bobby pins to weigh more 10kg....😐

I think there are more issues than 60fps with bethesda games

In short, Microsoft is bringing more games from previous generations to life on the Series X and improving how well they play.

I haven’t played it, but I can assure it loads in less than 30 seconds and the frame rate might be more stable.

if it struggles to hit a stable 30 on last gen then it would definitely be cleared up

PrezidentTrump i tried in 4k with my ryzen 1800x 16GB 1080ti and i didn’t get a very good framerate. I didn’t look how much exactly but it was slow but usable. I still have access to the game i can test it more precisely.

C C I’ve got it on a system with a gtx 1080 and i7 3770k on a 1440p monitor. Will test it tonight. I doubt his claims are valid myself.

Indeed. Excellent suggestion.

Just ran it on a 3600X+2070 at 1440p. 50-70 with msaa and 70-90 with fxaa with everything else set to ultra.

20fps was probably just poor optimization. You can get a very demanding game to run on poor hardware with good optimization, just look at the minimum requirements for cyberpunk 2077.

My thoughts exactly! While watching every other video, I'm thinking "Okay it's nice to have this stuff independently verified by non-xbox people, but you're not telling me anything I didn't already know." For such a tech centric medium, all these gaming sites and youtubers seem to have little, to no, tech expertise. Digital Foundry are the only ones giving real insight into what this stuff can do.

Joined for the tech specs simplified to a level an idiot can understand, and from there it's one of my favourite tech channels

Derek Held How will Crapgamer spin this in his clickbait? “ Sony proves Digital Foundry assessment of Xbox makes it inferior to PS5. Microsoft is desperate”.

This is a marketing channel. You're suppose to be seduced.

Also they didn't mind spending more time on their video even if that meant it appeared later than the other channels. Respect

They won't stop, it's too good.

All you're games you can play right away!! Whoop. Can't wait for next generation.

Droid No, I have a huge collection of 360 games, of which maybe a third I can play on my One. That is why I say I hope the BC program continues and they continue to add older titles to the roster of playable titles on newer hardware. Microsoft previously stated they were putting the backwards compatibility program on pause while the focused on the rollout of the new generation. Well the new generation is releasing soon and I am waiting for an announcement from Microsoft that the backwards compatibility program will resume.

@@TwistedTB they probably can only do so much. Probably due to the licensing issues and how old a game is.

Droid Yeah i understand that but I am still hoping they will do more. They only did 31 original Xbox games for one thing. I will continue to hope until I hear an official statement from Microsoft about it one way or another.

Welcome

Welcome!🎉🎉🥳🙂I hope you enjoy Xbox!!!

But what switch can they flip that would just make games jumping down to 56fps stay at a stable 60fps? Replacing the ingame textures with lower ones or spreading the work load on the CPU differntly?

@@TheOfficialChannelOfChannels Microsoft developed specific tools(software) for back compat games to do just that. They have been working on this tech for years. Unlocked frames,higher 4k resolution, textures, auto HDR etc.

Backwards compatible games do not utilize the new architectural features (that come with the zen 2 cores/ modern gpu and velocity architecture). If a developer were to adjust theor code to take advantage of these, the performance increase would be a lot higher than 100%.

@@_Schwartz It kind of depends. Obviously we don't know the specifics but games that have locked fps like the some shown in this video cannot be boosted in fps unless the developer releases a patch to unlock it. If the fps is unlocked or capped at 60 more powerful hardware should allow it to run smoother. This common practice in PC and I'm glad that consoles are becoming more like PC in this aspect.

It's going to be so much more impressive to see the PS5 do all this 3 times faster. Can't wait for next gen

hey, I understood that reference XD

hold on to your series x

Waiting on the 120 update

He may be generations old, but his class is generations ahead

shotty5 I was expecting the next gen console to do 120 fps :( The series S can run 1440p 120 fps but they’ve showed nothing gameplay wise to prove it

game legacy goes way farther back from last gen smh, you're an idiot

@@ZombieZifiction It supports all the way back to OG Xbox and you also have to include 360 back compatible classics like Ikaruga, Daytona USA, etc. It's not a MAME emulator but it's pretty impressive for a modern console. You can go ahead and fuck off.

@@ZombieZifiction why did that offend you?

@@StarsAndSticks xbox has no legacy whatsoever except halo. it's backwards compatible because it lacks new games. not by choice

The only hands -on impression- that matters!

@Will Riker That too!

Indeed.

I'm confused, doesn't xbox series x have rDNA 2? Or will it be enabled through firmware update later on?

@@varadmane5550 it is RDNA 2. But the back compat doesnt take advantage of the new archictecture. Its just the power of the system that makes the back compat games run and look better.

@@robofish8771 oh, so rdna2 will only come into play with new games that can take advantage of that architecture. Cool, thanks!

@@varadmane5550 👍

@@robofish8771 rdna is the name of the gpu. what do you mean it doesnt use it.

DOES THE SERIES X ALSO GET REBOOTED DURING THIS TIME

I know you're joking but I'll give a real response anyway for people who are curious. From what other reviewers have been saying, the older the game is, the less demanding it is to load, the smaller the difference will be in load times. OG Xbox games are only seeing like 20-30% difference whereas newer more demanding games like RDR2 and Control are seeing 60-75% difference in load time reduction.

Alex Cunningham very interesting! Thank you for this info

If only that memory issue on morrowind could be fixed. Not about to invest 100+ hours on console version, just for the game to increase loading times, crash, and corrupt data.

I was thinking Avengers, since its the most current/recent game with struggling performance.

I'm so glad they care about this stuff, preservation is critical and my OG Xbox disc drive burned out again...

Yes! That's what people seem to forget when backwards compatibility is mentioned: the preservation of games. It shows they intend to do right by future games (ie, always having a local downloadable option, enhancements, etc)

As a PC guy who had no intention of buying a Series X because I don't need one for upcoming titles, this is how Microsoft manages to sell me one anyway. I don't need one for new games, but when the price is right, I'll pick one up to boost my old games.

Agreed

I’m a PC guy too, and since I can’t get my hands on a 3080, I (luckily) preordered a Series X in the meantime. Now I can finally dust off my OG Xbox games in my basement.

Big LOL

@@spazz8682 l

the ps5 controller seems to be awsome

RIP

@@spazz8682 ok

Yeah, I have actually put certain games aside to finish on XSX to take advantage of improved FPS and Load times.

I think its a shame sony is not using this... I mean a potato pc can run an ps1 emulator(ps3 can) so why not add it...

Gonna upgrade my xbox one s to this thing. literally no reason not to with $35 a month. If only sony would have been working on a backward compatibility program for ps1 and ps2 games like microsoft have been doing for xbox and 360 games.

Cugastratos , monster hunter world is one for me, the performance was a turn off on 1X but looking forward to playing it on Series X

Any1 know if dying light will be bc?

Stop Crying

@@fynnv3284 ?

@@fynnv3284 sir are you illiterate?

Why

​@@fynnv3284 ? Crying about what, I am not sure you read the above. I will assume you just misunderstood this as me attacking him instead of complimenting him.

true bro. bored of those third-person interactive movie.

Loved God of War and The Last of Us. Gears of War is boring trash. I love playing Halo MCC on Steam though. Really brings back those epic memories playing with my Xbox friends.

Same, TLOU 1/2 is my favourite single player game ever but God Of War got boring for me. Going back to Xbox in November!

Last of us is trash, lame RE, gears of war, splinter cell rip off. Babysitter of war is a rip off of AC origins and hellblade. Halo and gears are mediocre

@@zanfear Last of us and babysitter of war is also boring trash . Last of us has crappy gears of war gameplay , how can u hate gears but love lame of us? Very hypocritical

it was disappoint to me, honestly. 30% below what i expected of it.

@@GraveUypo Fair enough, I hear you. It's just the limitations of it running in compatibility mode. Doesn't fully utilize the new architecture. The series x games will tho!

Should we ignore the fact that they haven't shown a single game running on the Series X? That doesn't scream confidence to me.

@@Theoldman27 it's not like they wont soon Microsoft has been very forthcoming with the series x. The amount of things that have shown off since they announced it at the game awards last year has been extremely refreshing especially compared to Sony who seems to be doing everything possible to keep things a secret.

Confident in playing games from four years ago, zero confidence in games in the present because they have none. Xbox as a brand is in shambles. Sony will DOMINATE once again.

Agreed. It feels like Microsoft is more confident with it's hardware and Sony with its software

@@stheticgod7679 You're saying they will soon but then accuse Sony of keeping things secret. We've seen PS5 games running on the PS5. So what are Sony keeping secret? Are you saying this because they didn't give Digital Foundry a PS5 at the exact same time that Microsoft gave them the Series X?

Exactly why I am buying it.

@@tezturkey6824 I think many are. SOLID 60FPS in 2020 should be BARE minimum. Nothing worse than advertising a game running at 60FPS then having it run at 40-50FPS 70% of the time.... DIABOLICAL in 2020.

Ok

lmao most definitely!

@@pandapolygon ok

hes the man first saw eveything. like 1991 after burner 2. so def doctor. but a sega doctor not xbox doctor.

The guy I go to for help with my calculus III

They are approaching the milestone, slowly but surely.

He is the only one worth listening to...all the others are sony dickriders

CocoChris13 grow up

Subbed. Followed DF for the longest time and didn't realise how close they were!

These type of channel don't have subs cause many are not interested in model or how hardware works but in last 1 and 2 years people interest in this has increased that's why DF is growing at good rate. Similar thing for speedruning

Yeah, so you are working for sony and you they are confused! Impressive

@@gillesgila "and you they" u arent very smart , doesnt u sonyer?

Hi res textures? Isn't "just" framerate improved?

@@GameslordXY idk lol all it is more horsepower so 4k variable stays at 4k and stays at 60 fps

I don't think sony were ever confused, I think they've always looked forward and not backwards.

Best comment. I'll play an OG NES game right now and have a blast.

I still Play Space Invaders

Brand new hardware can run 6 year old games well? INSANE.

Pestilence can you name any console besides the PS2 and Wii that could do the same? It’s not that common nor feasible, especially since we were used to architecture changes between generations

@@sircuddlesGHII lol try to run Crysis on newer PC hardware. Most games released in 2019 run better than it.

Pestilence your comment just shows how you’re completely ignorant about emulation.

Yea sure, its because they are basically PCs :D

It's safe to say that xbox is literally a PC sidekick now lol

Kudos? For a next gen console to run 5 year old games? 😂

@@SwissFenyx this

@Let's Make the Holocaust Great Again! Yup, that's exactly why people spend 499 to strictly play older games. Dumbass.

@@mayman4255 What do you mean? If anything Xbox is anything but a PC sidekick. If you have a modern PC you wouldn't need an Xbox at all. A sidekick would be a console with exclusives that you can't get on PC.

Welcome man, I hope to be playing Halo Infinite with you in the future!

Paying off the Xbox over time gives you Game pass ultimate as well. You literally save money than if you bought the console outright.

Welcome🎉🥳🥳🙂I hope you enjoy Xbox. The value of the Game Pass is unreal!!!

@Aaron Moore lol

Xbox is getting my support! Gamepass is just too good.

I'm going to be playing loads pf xbox360 and xbox one games on this. Titanfall 2 has a unlocked resolution. Star Wars fallen order at locked 60fps is going to,be awesome.

@@futvnyc star wars..yesssss

Same here! This news makes me happy I have a backlog.

Yeah. Lots of my unplayed 360 game discs will be played on the Series X. 😋

@@futvnyc omg Genius!

Good choice! They use a custom method that's supposed to be pretty labor intensive to count the framerate.

My thoughts exactly while watching this video. It'd be very interesting to know how some optimized games run after a few have released.

Can someone point out some differences in the split screens? I see the fps info, but how does that present as you're playing? They look identical to me.

@@T4Y70R less stutter and lag and smoother playing experience. You won't see it as a big deal on a video of course. But it makes a hell of a difference when actually playing. I personally turn down settings to hit stable 60fps on my PC because stutters are really annoying. This is magnified even more if you are playing in VR. Frame drops below 60 lead to motion sickness in VR due to that higher input latency and stutter.

@@T4Y70R They generally just look and feel smoother

@@PurushNahiMahaPurush In VR depends how sensitive you are... for me its 80fps, drops below are a big no no. :D

I just wonder if these Devs would even update those games for the new consoles though...

Why would they require patches? It's the exact same architecture as the previous console. This should be like running an older game in a newer PC.

@@PotatoeSnow pick up SSX3 in case you havent

And the hardware sucks

@@rodzandz to optimize them, thats a thing

Indeed basically these results were with brute force only

What does this mean in English

Can’t wait to see what it’ll look with the RDNA 2 feature set. Just a heads up to developers even if your games don’t run with everything maxed, still include those options because there will be an Xbox in the future that will max out your game and bring new life to an older title!

@@jovanrocksable games specifically built for Series X will perform better than what is shown here.

jovan marinovic it means the gpu is the same as the xbox one x but more powerful, so from 6 to 12c w the cpu of the series x, zen2 is the series x cpu, so hes saying we pretty much saw a xbox one x double enhanced machine(cause the xbox one x is an enhanced system, the series x was an enhanced enhanced system ) , I hope that makes sense bro

Pretty amazing now, instead of 9fps we get the blistering speed of 12fps.

Lmao - this is the question I need answering before I give them my cold hard cash

....I mean, sign up to a 24 month finance agreement

Asking the real questions.

I think Lichdom battle mage had a patch added to it on Xbox to lock it at 30 FPS. I'm more curious to see it on the PlayStation 5, since the PS4 version never had a cap on frame rate put on it.

Indeed, i wouldn't be surprised if they either remake or remaster their older games and resell them for 70 dollars.

Nova Verse Exactly. They’re already doing it with a remastered version of Spider-Man 😂

Trash PlayStation

Sony literally can't do backwards compatibility tho, they used much different hardware in the ps3 and under so they would basically have to remake all of the old games.

vasya perhaps with disk versions of games this is an issue, but what about the digital versions that are sold? I’m aware it will a lot of require work, but why not give people access to digital games that they own? Better yet give people the ability to access every game across the PS family of consoles? Imagine playing emulated versions of Vita or PSP games? Would be nice for consumers and would make Sony some extra money because I’d go back and buy all the games I always wanted.

Yeah agreed. I have 2 ps4 one is the ps4 pro and it doesn't look as good as my one X, and it's fast, smooth and quiet

For real not even my pc could pull that off

I'm honestly shocked, I always assumed it just wasn't going to happen.

We all know that we wanna see the GTA5 load times haha

Bro Im playing it at 4k 60fps locked ultra settings on a gtx 1070

@@ArthurM1863 can confirm runs like a champ on my PC with tonnes of mods installed.

Watch 5-6 year old PC videos in 4k. :D

Even on PC it struggles to stay above 60fps There's a couple mods you could install to help it run better but no matter how powerful your PC is it will still occasionally drop to the 50s

It's 60 FPS, but the quality is not so great :D

@@llJeezusll i cant remember dropping to 50 fps once on my old rx 580, now my 3080 absolutely claps that game

@@llJeezusll I'm so glad Rockstar improved the optimization of their RAGE engine on PC massively with GTA V.

Bruh they don't sell it where I live, and there is no stocks online.

Without any optimization!

@@mayman4255 my pc still can't go above 40 fps on gta4

At this rate even Mighty No. 9 with its crazy bad optimization would be 60fps locked on Series X.

@@mayman4255 this is the key here too. any BC games that get Xbox's attention and optimized for the Series X are going to look and feel really great. exciting stuff.

Graphics need upgraded

Unfortunatyl tho the tiny cache holds back the mobile variant quiet a bit.

@@OutOfRangeDE nah it's fine Considering that jaguar had no l3 cache

8 core AMD Zen 2 CPU's with 8mb l3 cache. Ryzen 3600 and 3300x will give better perfomance than ps5 and xsx cpu's.

well yeah. The One X was bottlenecked by the CPU which is why most games didn't run over 30, despite it having a more powerful CPU than the PS4

@@OutOfRangeDE If the code can utilize multiple threads, the raw 16 threads will still provide a massive boost.

Did you not watch the video? This is "tampered" by the bc team at Microsoft. God you're dumb.

I so hope so!

The good old alot, not seen one of those for a while.

Auggy he’s talking about 4K patches from the back compat team

Given their recent investment it would also make sense to put the Xbox expert team together with Bethesdas engineers to save something like Fallout 76. Which is a game that could still live up to its potential

if it was 120fps i would agree. 60fps is old news

totally. i still have my original xbox here with like 30 games. best console ever IMO

@@todd5687 you really dont need 120fps for most games. racing games and multiplayer fps? sure but most games are totally fine with solid 60fps

@@todd5687 you do realise Most people aim for 60fps?

@@todd5687 most old games physics will break at that frame rate so it doesn't even make sense

I commend Microsoft for dedicating resources to backwards compatibility because it is extremely important imo. I remember upgrading my PC and going back to games that were demanding on my old PC and playing them at higher fidelity graphics and frame rates it is a much better experience.

The best games ever made are the games in the 360 list.

but younger ppl like newer stuff this is more for older ppl though.

@@ec5018 LOL we're not talking about the Amiga. It's mainly Xbox One that they're focusing a lot of the resources, than 360 and than original Xbox which isn't that old. You could scoop up a bunch of good games for the Xbox One on the second hand market right now, they're dirt cheap and you can play them on your Series X. Between that and Game Pass there's tremendous value there.

I'll never be completely satisfied until I can play "Jet Set Radio Future" again. Sega & Microsoft need to do something about that. On the real.

Could do that now on PC

@@Kougeru no one asked

Kougeru Can’t we just enjoy that consoles are finally getting a jump after 7 years on Jaguar? A higher baseline spec is better for gaming.

SPOILER: If its dipping below 60 in a cutscene it will dip way harder in gameplay. AND it did.. below 60 and it wasn't even in a fight. Elder dragon fights will dip HARD mark my words.

@@prezidenttrump5171 it's okay if you don't enjoy the game. For me and many others it is the best thing there is

Hey dude, should I get a series x or a ps5?

Same bro حمودي الملكي

Dio Brando I’d say if you’re into backwards compatibly and like more non-exclusive games then get a Series X. If you like exclusives then get a PS5

@@monokumawithagun6030 Exclusives is opinionated. Personally I only like Horizon and God of War. Rest are not interesting on Playstation. Besides Sony is supporting the PS4 for the next 3-4 years. Play couple of the exclusives on PS4 and save cash.

P8Z77VLK Usually Sony has an exclusive for nearly every type of game. Spider-Man is an open world action game. God of War is a story focused RPG (or a total fighting gore fest depending on the ones you get)

Going above 60 breaks the game. Try playing Dark Souls at 144 fps and see for yourself.

🤣

@@wallacesousuke1433 every game with locked FPS is trash. Because fixed scan monitors and TVs are trash.

@@JagoTFC locked FPS is trash? what crazy world are we living in?????

@@hardkore360 a post CRT world

If you have a somewhat powerful PC - try RPCS3 ;-)

Yeah, when my PS3 died a horrible death, I had no way of finishing my library of games. I had just bought a PS4 and wasn't about to buy another PS3. I'm done with Sony and will be getting a Series X in the Spring of 2021.

@@igorthelight yeah first you got to find a compatible blu ray player that you can use to extract PS3 games.

@@mrbojangles1391 So the guy gave an answer of how to play all of your PS2 and PS3 games with resolution and possibly FPS improvements. Yet you decide to go to a company that has burned its own supporters for years, apart for this one small thing that has been available for other systems for free, for years. Strange bunch you consolers. Its like Stockholm Syndrome.

doesn't ps5 has backwards compatibility too?

Despite the fact that he colluded with Nvidia to hide the fact that the RTX3080 is not much faster than a 2080ti at 4K ;)

@@leeboy2k1 I've watched all of Rich's coverage on the 3080. He did no such thing. He provided plainly discernible benchmarks and let the viewers draw their own conclusions. Stop the misinformation.

Still no next gen games 😄

@@maruf7956 they have 23 studios games are coming.

Complexity we really haven’t seen anything next gen yet have we? and I have all 3 main consoles and a series X and PS5 preordered (in case you think I care about 12 year old mentality of “console wars”)

@@maruf7956 horizon and spiderman miles morales on ps4 lol, ps has no next gen games

@@maruf7956 How many years did The Last Guardian take? Shenmue 3? Final Fantasy 15?

Exactly.

The optimised quick resume Is 11 seconds so nope I don't think it's no loading screens! Xbox simply hijacked what Sony and ps5 where supposed to say!

PC is all about brute force on majority if not almost all games... 🤔 This is why consoles can't compare to PC, because they do get optimized for consoles... If you listen "carefully" to Richard, he says "that the games he is showing are games" 'kind of allowed to be shown by Microsoft'... So yep, they are optimized to be played on the Xseries, this is also confirmed by the biggest Xbox fanboy Evan's Channel... He says in his Xseries video that "not all games will be playable"... Again that hints that the games being shown around "had been optimized to be played on Xseries"...

@@ADRzone Ofc PC has to brute force games through bottlenecks that's why they have better hardware. Games are optimized for console, because they have a custom architecture to take advantage of. Richard was speaking of backwards compatibility not full architecture optimization. When games are optimized to take full advantage of the Ps5/Xbox architecture we can see it run bettter than similarly specced PCs. PCs worker harder while Consoles work more efficiently.

@@343ishill I know all that buddy... But the game net coding is made, they use that to allow the hardware to play the game (hence optimized to be able to play)... You can't just download or play whatever you want because it can break and brick your console, so the optimization comes into play, if not you will be able to play ALL games... Now those games were optimized for old hardware, and I get it, but they have also been optimized to run on this new hardware, any other changes, changes the netcoding completely making the game "then" unplayable on Xone... But they are as optimized as they will be... A game crashes on PC, PC just keeps on going, a game bricks your console it can be "bye bye" for the console...

Yes me too brother! I was eager to play this Game once again and now im totaly sold

It ran at 60fps on the One X

It's actually on sale too. Think I'm gonna buy it. Haven't seen it since 2008 on PS3.

@@briancorley1991 no it was 30fps

Funny thing is tho, even a pc cant even get GTA IV to 60 fps, quite the feat i'd say!

@Douglas Oliveira Microsoft have well and truly conned people, if anyone thinks they care in the slightest. They are waiting for the morons to come and help them take over completely, and once they do they will take control and destroy gaming as we know it just like they tried to do after the success of the 360. It will be the worse thing to ever happen, and there are so many lemmings casually marching to the cliff edge happy and proud to be doing so. It's hilarious, and sad, how stupid the general public truly are.

wyterabitt and it’s not like Sony might do the same thing if they take over? You see how they handled the launch of Playstation 3, or did you not want to mention that nightmare?

@@barbecue1015 They basically already had taken over and got their chance, and didn't do that. You can only go on demonstrated behaviour. Sony could have, and never did several times. Microsoft tried the very moment it got the slightest chance, and on top of that has over 40 years of the exact same behaviour over, and over, and over, and over in related industries . . . .

@@wyterabitt2149 Ah yes, Microsoft who has pushed for disc based legacy support, cross platform play, an effective rental service, and standardized PC gamepads (allowing for easier conversion between Console and PC), these are the bad guys. Say what you want about MS as a monolithic corporation, they have their problems, but in the console space they're the most consumer friendly publisher out there. We might as well hold Sony Music's draconian copyright strikes against them for facilitating what you're allowed to post on youtube these days.

@@SuperFirstSecond Except that is nonsense, Sony did not make the copyright laws or the youtube implementation to abide by them. And everything you list from Microsoft happens to be the best for Microsoft as well. And they certainly had nothing to do with the gampad thing. That predates anything Microsoft did by a long way, they just joined in - and that really shows how they pull the wool over people so easily. Not as good as Apple manage, but still pretty impressive. And what is best for Microsoft, once they have control, in many other areas won't be good for consumers.

It's a good time to be a gamer. Competition is doing wonderful things for the average consumers.

Full? Like NFL 2k5?

Quick Resume is an underrated next-gen feature. It makes load times less relevant in the first place.

@@pedrocanas470 It's probably false. Insiders usually struggle to track studio acquisitions.

I’m on PC and I’m jealous of that quick resume feature. Consoles have actually won at something. Touché, Microsoft.

That is so true, I have an og Xbox One and sometimes I feel like I'm watching a powerpoint presentation lol

OMG! So true!

seriously makes no sense why they didn't just lower some effects to make it run decently on XB1 lol

@@reynutz Pretty sure it is CPU issue and some memory leak things. They did fix some of it and lower the graphics in Just Cause 4, but alongside the worse structure and worse gfx, it has worse reception even among gamers.

Yeah i'd be curious to see if it hits a locked 30. I was watching a friend of mine play it on ps4 and it hurts my eyes.

Was more naughty dog and not sony

Have fun playing old games ps5 will have games everywhere Xbox wont

I wish people could all just get along with what they play. Why do you have to justify your $500 dollar piece of gaming hardware to other people who have something else?

@حمودي الملكي king shit 👑

@@tiredoflife778 this is why everyone hates ps fanboys lmao

Why though? If you upgraded from a GTX 1060 to a RTX 2080 (for example) and a weak CPU to a strong one in your PC, games would suddenly perform a lot better.

@@FullNietzsche Yes, ofcourse. But they're all using a standard set of API's, 3rd party libraries and generally same OS under the hood as far as PC gaming goes. But it's not always the case, e.g. GTA IV runs poorly even on modern systems which is why 60fps on XBSX is even more impressive. Console development I can only assume is different as devs leverage certain tricks of the hardware to get more out of it, certain features of the GPU, or features that are not present in the newer consoles (i.e. EDRAM/ESRAM), or code to the "metal". The XBSX has to essentially emulate all these functions from previous generations, and emulating the original XB and X360 would place a huge overhead on resources seeing as even PC versions of these emulators run poorly.

@@FullNietzsche Because developers build that into PC games and not into console games. The difference is developer input.

@@RealThorOdinson Console games and PC games are the same games with the same code, an Xbox is essentially a Windows 10 PC locked down to only play games. It's why Xbox games like Forza run natively on PC, they aren't 'ported' like in the 360 era, it's the same code. So it's really not as super special amazing as you think, that games with unlocked framerates on Xbox suddenly run a lot better when given faster hardware to run on. Developers don't need to tell the game 'look, you are running on better hardware, isn't that great? Now let me explain to you how to run faster and put in some special magic programming to make this happen'. That should be the expected behaviour and surprise no-one.

@@FullNietzsche You literally have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Which begs the question, why comment like you do?

Well it depends on what you're in for. If you care about exclusives like Spiderman:Miles Morales, Horizon Zero Dawn 2, Ratchet And Clank, Last Of Us, or God Of War, then Ps5 would suit you best. Or if you have an extensive PSN library. If you prefer third party support over exclusives, Xbox is a better system. There's no question that One X was a better build than Ps4 Pro and it was a lot quieter. Because of the Fps and graphics quality, you'd probably enjoy Battle royale games or COD or Battlefield better on Xbox compared to Playstation. Not to mention that Gamepass has nearly every Xbox exclusive on it and a lot of great third party games like Red Dead Redemption 2. It depends on what you're looking for. Neither option is the wrong one. For me ? I just don't like Playstation games and I find them boring. The Last Of Us was supposed to be this amazing game and I really didn't like the long cutscenes or the gameplay. I've been with Microsoft since I switched from Ps3 to 360 and I'll continue to stay with them. I'm getting Xbox Series X on launch and I'll be buying Cyberpunk 2077 to kick it off.

@@Deadsea_1993 I'm done with Sony's censorship and anti consumerism tactics towards certain titles. I'm buying the Series X, which will be my first Xbox that I ever purchase. It's going to be BREATHTAKING

@@Deadsea_1993 honestly I been with Sony my whole life but now that I have kids I feel gamepass is the smartest way to go. Plus ms has Bethesda now.

@@flufflenuggit6499 the same way I'm feeling although 3 days ago I was 100% set on ps5 but now nah

Same here but just don't think I can give up God of war, Spiderman Horizon. I will wait to see if Xbox finally release similar games like Fable

I actually played four or five Xbox 360 games completely this year (including Fable) Couldn't have done that without my One X

I'm there with you. I have a backlog of games from this video that I haven't even touched yet. It'll be nice to see them in great form by the time I upgrade to SeX

This. My 360 is hooked up in the same room that my Xbox One is but I'd rather be able to play those games on Xbox One, have them all in one place, and be able to put away my 360 without worry.

Ninja Garden 2 sounds like a cool game to play while your ordered fries are being made 👍

Ninja Gaiden 2 is amazing on the One X, can't wait to see it on Series X

Hmm it's not compatible on xone cause the emulation seems to have problems with games that have multiple discs. I have lost odyssey and it doesn't work so are we sure that xsx will play it?

@@AlphaPyxis that’s odd I remember seeing lost odyssey on Xbox one bc

@@AlphaPyxis Not true, DF even has a video about the game and Blue Dragon.

@@AlphaPyxis Lost Odyssey has been available for years on Xbox One, it was even given away for free a couple of years ago when it was made available on Xbox One

@@wildonionchase3934 oh wow, sorry it has been a good while since I checked and the last time I did microsoft said that the xone bc had problems with games with multiple discs thanks for pointing that out, doubt rockstar would have made LA noire bc as they probably wanted to milk their "remaster" so I never checked again. Thanks for that I'll definitely be playing lost odyssey soon again.

4k - 1440p. Same frames.

A better comparison would be one x and series S. The series x is a much more powerful one to compare properly

@@AAlfredjoseph well the one x has more ram then the series s and because of this the series s cannot run one x enhanced games it runs the one s versions of the game... series s has 1440p as the target while one x is 2160p. Its going to be good to see the videos on these subjects

I'm not. I'm actually quite worried about the Series S. It will work fine in most circumstances but it won't only be a resolution downgrade, they're going to have to drop other effects to cater for the lower overall specs. It isn't just simply less TFLOPS, it's slower CPU, less RAM, basically lower everything. I wish that this just translates to the exact same image from 4K to 1440p. I don't think many people noticed but in the Series S gameplay reel you get to see The Medium running on the Series S, and I promise you that game was running at like 15-20 FPS on that demonstration. It's certainly possible they can improve it for launch, but that game is only going to be able to run on a Series X at 30 FPS.

@@DirEnGay cpu is almost identical to series X, the clock speed difference is quite small. The gpu has an architectural difference that favors series s over one X, making the difference to one X smaller than what tflops seem to suggest. A lower resolution also requires less ram, that shouldn't be an issue as a result. I do agree that compared to series X, there will probably be some effects turned down in addition to lower res though, I don't know about the one X difference however.