Xbox Supporting PC Game Stores - A Console/PC Hybrid? 

It would also be kind of funny, since it would technically bring PlayStation games to Xbox. I know Xbox has brought their games to PlayStation, but it’s just a hilarious loophole for Xbox.

That will sell so many Xbox it will be sold out

@@ContrastCopy Sony would definetly block that, probably through Steam/EGS validating the OS in use

Dude, I'm happy when someone mentions GoG. I'm starting to use it when ever I can. I have 1017 games on Steam, and I care about my profile there, a lot. CS was the reason why I got into it. It's what I mainly use, but now that I'm in my 20s, and I started to understand the difference between owing a game and having a license to play it, and how losing access to a game feels like, I really started to hope that GoG gets more popular, so more games can end up there, and we can stop dealing with things like Denuvo. You have no idea how much I hate when games use that DRM. For those who are quick to call someone "pirate" for not liking Denuvo: no, I don't like pirating games, unless I need to, like with Deadpool (the alternative was paying $200 for a key. Money that doesn't go to the devs anyways, just like when you buy used games on consoles), and pirates buy offline activations for Denuvo games paying like $1 or $2 anyways, so... know that those who complain about Denuvo are rarely salty pirates who didn't want to pay full price. I don't like any intrusive things on my PC, specially when they cause stutters and increase loading times (it doubles the time it takes to load anything) in games. I like feeling like I can own the game and do what ever I want with it (notice the word "feel". What I mean is Denuvo is a constant reminder that you don't own it). I don't like having to open a game that has Denuvo on my Steam Deck each time I have to travel before I get in the car (unless I can connect to the Internet using my phone later, which is not always an option), and I don't like the idea of you, possibly, losing access to a game you paid for.

I would like this if they could get it to work on series s.

Microsoft has Windows, a colossal trump card over Sony/Nintendo that it refuses to capitalize on. IMAGINE a Xbox console where you can boot either Xbox OS or Windows 11 on start-up, shit would outsell everything.

Just buy a pc then

​@@rayyanabdulwajid7681 nah

​@@OneLastScholarit was foolish of Microsoft allowing Xbox to compete against Windows in the past.

I would advise you to save money for a pc.

Why not just shell out an extra 200 or so bucks for a PC with a 3050 card? You get access to every XBOX game and all those PC games. Plus a plethora of other usages you can only use a PC for

@@XxPetexXx😂😅

​​@@XxPetexXxthere are old 360 games that never came to PC, plus do you people expect Xbox players to throw their entire Xbox library in the garbage? Lmao. Why not be like me and play on everything.

​@@AutomaticSnakejust about everything in my xbox i can play on pc. for what doesnt i used to emulate on pc, but now a modded og xbox and 360 holds all that content. idk if they are new stats but i remember it was like a 23 min average play time of back compat games on xbox. id assume majority dont use it, they just like to say that they could 😂. just in my friend list ive seen people playing old game maybe 3 times all year.

@@XxPetexXx3050 is a mid card honestly. He’s better off buying a used 2060 super

OR a separate operating system ala Steam OS that you could essentially build your own Xbox

The market has been needing something like this for a long while. I really hope they do this. It'll break down the barrier between friends on different platforms and opens up so many small game devs to a huge bump in potential sales.

@@copperypuddle3858 if they did this they win big

i can imagine valve will do the same they have their own OS which is improving so well and they showed they can build hardware @@copperypuddle3858

The cost would be a problem

Another brain-dead person who doesn't listen but jumps to spit garbage

The only lucid comment here....

Tell me that you are not using Steam without telling me that you are not using Steam. Steam store are way more cheaper😂 yeah buddy who said that opening a stupid post with a joke would work🤦🏽‍♂️ I love Steam i have over 200 games on there but its not cheaper at all than MS store (maybe when steam have their sommer, spring, publisher sales etc but only then). Actually the truth is with PC GP and MS store combination i save more money in the long run than with steam

@SuperRiccoSuave: Not only that, when the contract is up, they can just not resign and walk away with half of the Xbox base.

Microsoft is you're listening. BIG AAA NEW IP THAT IS QUALITY IN WRITING, DIRECTING AND THE TALENT TO BUILD THE GAMES. Too much money for a cheap service, it's unsustainable.

You would be the first person to buy an xbox in the past 3 years

@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340 the most i ever considered getting an xbox was when i found out that rdr2 is native 4k on the xbox one x but i have a ps5 and a monitor that isnt 4k so considering i am a 1080p 165hz user i dont care for 4k anymore as high refresh rate is a bigger game changer for me

Then they'll announce that only certain games are compatible 😂

​​@@btwiusearch2That's what made me buy an Xbox for the first time. Bought my first 4k TV too just because of RDR2. Worth it. It's blurry on PlayStation

@@UlyssesM two things could happen either steam or gog or whatever supports the xbox like they do for steam deck, or we get windows on xbox which is very unlikely but if that does happen it will be very stripped down

And all the games that are only on Steam

Idk some of the PC games can run on the Series X maybe the next gen Xbox half PC half Console type

You can already do that with your pc. I will never understand how people can't play basic "indie games" on their mid pc. MS needs to finally release new big AAA games.

And all the Playstation games that come to PC.

It'd be more amazing if the witchard allowed us to skip ads on this channel

Been waiting for this for a while

Nah, steam on the console would be way more interesting

Nawww lets just stick with steam on console.

Why? Almost all xbox games are already available on PC with better fps option. Who would want to play 30 fps games?

Xbox 1 and Xbox 360 games on PC with their internal emulator would be great

I’ve wanted this for a long time, even now it seems quite feasible at the surface level on Windows 11

people are finally coming around to the dream

Yeah that sounds nice and all but on 2001 it just wasn't possible nor cost-effective to have Windows XP as a console stand-in. Maybe now with Windows 11 but back then it wouldn't have left the assembly room.

@@OneLastScholar i agree there, they could have probably had a very stripped down version of windows xp, but then whats the point? Now the consoles are so powerful that if i can sit here and use windows 11 on my steam deck (which is what i'm typing this on) with a million tabs open and running unreal engine, and i'm not even maxing the steam deck (currently have it on 8 watt which is about half its total wattage) i fully believe an Xbox series X running windows 11 with it accessible as a desktop mode (the default being game mode) would smoke whatever is capable on steam deck in windows 11 out of the water. And then imaging a next gen xbox running windows 11/windows 12 and i begin to drool. Make it come in under £500 (or an option that is £500 that skimps on internal storage aslong as its upgradable) and i'm there!

It should keep the same specialised hardware and the low prices. The unique to the xbox hardware would incentivize the devs to optimize for it, cuz like 30% of the pc gamers would now be shifting towards a system that has a uniform set of specs in each and every unit. Many budget pc gamers would happily buy something like that if it does run windows. The xbox wont be changing anything, it would just bring a whole lot of pc gamers to it's corner, just by enabling windows on it. Games available on steam and other 3rd party stores would defo optimize themselves in hopes of higher sales.

@@knightgaming125 100% agreed, well said.

It’s considered a failure because for pretty much the entire 7th generation xbox dominated the gaming market, for someone that was in such dominant position to be in last place for the last 2 generations and not only that, this current console its selling even less than the previous one, that’s why it’s considered a failure.

Xbox is Microsoft's 2nd biggest earner, it's done really well

Correction 25 million since 2020 not 30 million since 2022. Let's not inflat and lie about how the console is doing.

People are so ready to hate on other preferred gaming platform is always funny to me.

Consoles makers don't make money on consoles

😂😂😂 stop believing this crap even ton warren who is a Xbox journalist even come out and put Xbox Twitter fanboys in there place by calling it nonsense who they where spreading this as truth jeez you bots clutch at straws valve have the steam deck and pc

@@DribbleP what the fuck are you rambling about!! Get a grip my guy.

I think that won't happen

@@michalandrejmolnar3715 thanks I really needed a random comment to to tell me this. You could become a philosopher with that type of deep thinking.

@@DribbleP did you generate this comment with AI cause it looks like it. I hate commenting because of people like you.

But they won't be using consumer parts available in the market. These components would probably be unique to the XBOX, prompting the devs to pump in the same amount of optimization as they put currently. The only difference would be that steam game devs would also be optimising for this very specific system that is more than likely to bring them a much higher number of sales. Xbox as a platfrom wouldn't want to lose it's individuality, it would just open its platform to a larger number of devs though.

@@knightgaming125 i completely agree. And that’s exactly how they should do it. Would be the best of both worlds

@@moderncreep9385 fr

Ive been trying to string together a set of words to convey the exact same idea for the last 20 mins and there you did it for me in a few lines 😂😂 This is the only 4d chess move that xbox can pull off to get back its deserved share in the gaming industry atlast

Its time for Microsoft to offer a gaming PC and just slap an Xbox brand on it.

​@@AliAbidalkareemif it has better quality components than most prebuilt PCs why not. Power supply, cooling etc.

@@AliAbidalkareem These things won't sell.

Seems like they learned nothing. Phil said that games are not the reason why people buy certain consoles.

Consoles are just way down in sales ..so crazy idea how about allowing the users to use their consoles that are already running AMD pc hardware and a custom version of windows to do everything a computer can ? While people might say this is a crazy desperate move from Microsoft the fact is playstation 5 total units sold is 30-40% less than playstation 4 units was in the first four years.

*360

Yeah they needed at least 5 years of just amazing games, that you can only get on Xbox. It feels like they want to do everything else except that.

@@logirexchip shortage and cross platform keeps the older systems relevant. Only beginning to phase them out now.

It's annoying that games like doom,destiny or battlefield don't have m&k support on current gen consoles. Most games don't have it. Many games don't even have fov sliders like cyberpunk or far cry 6. I don't see it happening anytime soon. Maybe next gen.

You know how many lawsuits they will get? Ain’t happening son.

yep i bought a steam deck instead of a series x simply because i can use a steam deck for more, even though its less powerful (much less)

These consoles already exist. They are called laptops and tablets.

yep. the "average consumer" uses emulators. MS should pursue a strategy where people are using emulators over buying games.

Using a console "for more" is the exact opposite of a consoles' intended use case. There's a reason people buy PCs and that's: to do more than play video games.

Will have a tough job beating the Steam Deck.

@@rodriguezkev Or the Ally for that matter. You can already play the the very vast majority of all Xbox games in existing PC handhelds that run the full gammut in any potential price point MS could target. What would the hook be for a MS handheld? Literally zero exclusive games, won't ever offer a better price for performance than the Deck.

@@gamble777888 windows compatibility with a controller friendly interface. Combining the best parts of the ally and steam deck

@@gamble777888the hook is pretty obvious, just make ROG Ally look like a bootleg by providing a true xbox layer a la steamos

I don't think anyone questions IF games can run on the Series X, but if MS is actually willing to open up its ecosystem. It's closed for a reason.

​@gamble777888 I question it. Because PC builds are designed with separate RAM pools. Unless the games are updated, there will be bottlenecks. Or the game will have to run at much lower resolution and settings, then a true console port would. And older games would have a lot of compatability isssues. Getting Fallout 2 to play on a modern PC requires a lot of mods. At some point it isn't going to be a console they are selling. Just a pre build PC. And with a reduced store cut they can't supplement income so it will cost more.

​@@gothpunkboy89 Steam Deck only has one unified set of RAM (16 GB). So does every computer that uses only the integrated GPU on the SOC. Compare the Steam Deck side by side with the specs of the series X and S and you will see that the Xbox has more CPU cores and a more powerful GPU then the steam deck (series S does have less RAM though). and people love the steam deck. Will the Xbox be able to run these games at high settings? most likely not, but will definitely be playable. right now the most used GPU on steam is the RTX 3060. A mid-range GPU. We as gamers get too caught up in max specs when the majority of people do not play on balls to the wall cutting edge PC builds. For the most part that is a small niche of the PC gamer world that gets lots of coverage by RU-vid review channels when it actually reflects a small majority. I think the gaming industry is at a crossroads where the line in the sand between what is a console and a PC are just about gone. it is just a matter of excepting it and seeing who will make the first move.

@@TheMarjen96 Yes and integrated GPU's are terrible. If I tried to play Spiderman 2018 on my laptop it would run at 1 frame a minute even at low settings. Even pretty simple games like Moving Out on low can run terribly on them. Let me ask you this. Why do PC games need 16 GB of RAM and another 8 GB of VRAM to run games? Why do you need GPUs with their own VRAM to play games instead of just using pure system RAM? This is the issue with consoles. They are developed with a unified RAM system that is shared between CPU and GPU. Thus ports for those systems have to be tailor made to address these system requirements to get the performance out of them that they do. Not to mention any custom software being used. If the Series X has a custom hardware decompression and that doesn't exist on the PC side. That means the game will not know to use it. Which will force all the decompression on the CPU. Which will tank performance. Unless the game is very specifically updated to add these in. If I want to play Fallout 2 on the Series X then how do they deal with compatibility issues? Considering there needs to be mods to even allow it to play on modern day PCs. If I buy CS:GO do I have to pay MS to play online with Steam servers? How would that work? One of the big things about PC is free online play. If I can get every game the Xbox store offers on Steam and I can play games online for free why would anyone use the Xbox store? If no one has any reason to use the Xbox store then how does MS supplement the production costs though online subscriptions and cut of sales from their store front? Wouldn't this lead to hardware costs increasing? At what point does it just become a prebuild PC with the Xbox logo slapped on it?

@gothpunkboy89 I in no way think that this is going to a the best way to experience these games. Just another way to play. As far as the laptop comparison with integrated gpu it doesn't compare. As far as I know there are no SOCs that have the amount of CUs as the steam deck or ps5 and xbox. By comparison the steam deck is roughly equivalent to a gtx 1050 and the Xbox series X is roughly equivalent to a RTX 2070. That is still squarely in the realm of playing pc games. It's specs are aging for sure but it does pose a very interesting prospect.

It’s a console. Saying it’s a Linux power pc is like saying everything is. PS3 would then be a Linux based pc.

I think Cryobyte33 said it best calling it an opt-in PC.

It's debatable. It's a pc since you can install many files and run open source. It's not modular though. You're stuck with fixed hardware and it's intended to run steam and powered by steams features and ecosystem.

​​​​​​​​​​​​@@zeohblitzYou could say the same about laptops and notepads, since several of those are also barely upgradable. However likewise they are still classed as PC's. Also you can run any PC based OS on it, it's entirely at your discretion. Gabe even said so himself pre-launch, along with him also stating "It's first and foremost a PC". People just tend to stick with the installed Steam OS it comes with, simply because it's more convenient and economical on such a device. Although some also do have thier Steam Decks setup to dual-boot into Windows, if needed (usually for the none Steam games and some Windows apps). Personnely, I'd say that it is a PC that has just been consolised in some areas, due to it being more inclined towards gaming.

If it runs PC games it would be free.

They can mandate that Steam calls their Xbox API. Existing Steam games retrieve your ID from Steam, but if the Steam version that comes to Xbox wont give it the ID unless Xbox allows it....

I'm glad you're interested in buying an Xbox if Steam comes to Xbox.

Pc only guys ain't doing that 😂😂 and this has already been called nonsense by Xbox journo and xbox only guys like Tom warren

Why would anyone use it if the game played worse than a console port or was totally incompatible?

@@gothpunkboy89 Maybe playing a game with mod support. Or playing games simply not available on Xbox, like a lot of square enix or playstation titles.

@khalidhashmi9772 older games would require special mods to get running. Which removes the simplicity of the console. Modern games require more muscle than the system would offer. Forcing cutbacks to settings. Based on the spec sheet for Forbidden West I don't think the SX could play the game at the same level as PS5 in performance mode.

@@gothpunkboy89 that would be fine for me. I don't need the highest soec version of these games. If the steamdeck can run it, Xbox will be able as well. Maybe they even consider this for next gen. Either way, I hope they figure this out somehow

Another video of it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7ygN5A77gLc.htmlsi=wGXUPpFeKAfEQrg2

XSX is the G.O.A.T just because it can do emulation 🔥