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XC Wheel Showdown: Trek VS. Specialized VS. Zipp 

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@hardmtnbiker
@hardmtnbiker 7 месяцев назад
Zipp also sells the rims alone. I have a custom built set of the XPLR 101 rims laced up with Chris King hubs as one for my gravel wheel set.
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
I actually built a set of xplr 101s also haha. Back when availability was really tough and I didn’t wanna wait for the zipp built version.
@jaredjackson8097
@jaredjackson8097 7 месяцев назад
I avoid all of the big brand wheels now. One can have something built semi custom from folks like Light Bicycle that just offer much more valuable per dollar. I just had a set of their XC930 wheels built with Carbon Ti boost hubs, CX Ray spokes, and alloy nipples for about $1500 and just under 1200 grams. Sure, the "crash replacement" policy is no where near as good (but we all know you pay for that up front). I'll pocket the extra $1000-1500 and put it elsewhere into the bike.
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Totally fair. I don’t think it’s a secret that you’re paying for a warranty when you buy one of these wheel sets. But also you could have bought a roval control 1350$ wheelset with slightly worse measurables vs the light bikes but with the warranty
@jaredjackson8097
@jaredjackson8097 7 месяцев назад
@@bicyclestation I considered that but the $1350 roval set is pretty chunky for XC standards at 1450 grams. A better comparison spec wise to what I built with on carbon ti hubs would be the Control SL (~1200g like mine) but spesh also wants 2500 plus tax for those. Meh. I'm a Spesh fan boy when it comes to their frames, but I feel a set of Dukes or LB hoops laced to Carbon Ti or DT180's is just a much better buy. I know you own a shop so your perspective and your clientele is gonna be different and I respect that.
@slimjim4ever
@slimjim4ever 7 месяцев назад
@@jaredjackson8097you could get Roval Control SL for around $1200-$1500 range on private market now if you search around. I got mine not long ago for $1200 and got warranty transferred over. I’ve had 3 of them along with regular Roval in which none of them I paid MSRP. In terms of stiffness I didn’t feel SL any worse. So far one of my favorite light wheels I can actually beat on. Also I’d recommend Kovee XXX if you can get hands on those. I have a set from 2022 that I scored for $900 last year & I love them. In fact I’d recommend them over Kovee RSL for the same reason the guy is talking about. If you’re a weight weenie like me you can remove that annoying plastic rim strip & tape it to shave off 150g or so. Mine came out exactly 1300g taped with valves & manufacturer claims 1290g so no complaints there. In terms of ride quality Kovee XXX is a lot stiffer than Roval Control SL but neither of them are fragile nor give you that sketchy full out XC wheel feeling.
@hardmtnbiker
@hardmtnbiker 7 месяцев назад
I sent Berd spokes my hubs and rims. Absolutely amazing wheel’s with Hadley Hubs Ti freehub RaceFace rims. Going custom built is the best way to go when you want high end hubs with your rims of choice.
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Eh I still think that kinda stuff is cool tho. Most people wouldn’t go the extra mile to even know about the brands we’re talking about and I know I would if I didn’t have as much access to product as I do.
@jhnspchr
@jhnspchr 7 месяцев назад
very nice vid, would love to have this guide for the mid tiers too, and maybe an explanation what makes it „better“ besides the hub, and if and for who its worth
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
For the high end ones or the middle tier? I don’t have any real world experience with the middle tier ones currently but can try to help.
@jhnspchr
@jhnspchr 7 месяцев назад
i mean both would be interesting, but the mids are what would bither me since its prob. something i will get (will build my fist mtb this year so i dont want an need to have the top tier i guess)
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Just on paper I’d go zipper or roval
@jhnspchr
@jhnspchr 7 месяцев назад
thanhs, thing the zipp is my fav so far, have the 303fc on my roadbike and realy like them. so will kepp it zipp i guess
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Let me know if you want us to get you a set
@jamiefarrell6496
@jamiefarrell6496 7 месяцев назад
New to your channel but the algorithm must’ve read my mind - am toying up between the Rovals and the Zipps and found this really useful! Thinking there is no reason not to go for the Zipps, they look great. Might consider the non-Wizz version, just for aesthetics
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
You can just take em off and put normal valves in no problem and still have the nicer wheel
@jamiefarrell6496
@jamiefarrell6496 7 месяцев назад
@@bicyclestation Even better! Thanks
@slimjim4ever
@slimjim4ever 7 месяцев назад
I’d say look around and find deals on the “old” Kovee XXX wheels. I have 2 sets one from 2022 with 24 spokes & one from 2018 with 28 spokes. 24 spoke version is bone stock w/o that plastic rim strip. I taped it and with valves comes out at exactly 1300g which is actually lighter than manufacturer claimed weight which is 1290g. 28 spoke one was bit heavier so I replaced the spokes with Berd and now they’re just under 1200g taped with valves. Both of these wheels are significantly stiffer than the RSL and I trust them much more! I hated RSL for the same reason this guys is talking about. That being said I’d say if you’re in market for used wheels search for than good ol Kovee XXX. If you’re lucky you might score them for under a grand :)
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
I 10000% agree. When Trek released the Kovee RSL I sold my two XXX wheels and honestly kinda regret it. They were really cool looking also.
@MinhNguyen-vv3gm
@MinhNguyen-vv3gm 7 месяцев назад
if you consider the price of the included TPMS the zipps are an even better deal.
@beaucarbert
@beaucarbert 7 месяцев назад
Zipp crash replacement warranty is amazing. Zero questions they replaced me bar and stem as a precaution. I was looking in between the zips and hunt proven xc is wheels. They are on sale right now for 1,250. I would say the Zipps are my superior, but what are your thought on the hunt wheels? I’m pretty dead set on the Zipps, but saving money is always a plus having three kids.
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Not trying to be biased due to direct to consumer but it’s a you get what you pay for situation with hunt.
@beaucarbert
@beaucarbert 7 месяцев назад
@@bicyclestation I’ll plan on the zipp wheels just wanted an opinion since I didn’t know much about the brand. Thanks!
@frankschock9981
@frankschock9981 7 месяцев назад
Which Zipp wheelset did you have that broke?
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
I’ve broken a 454 and seen a 303 break but that’s it. Both were replaced under warranty no problem
@Ghostina1
@Ghostina1 7 месяцев назад
There are missing the ENVE M5 ... really they are worth!
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Eh they are fairly outdated in comparison to all three of these wheelsets I tested. Super narrow rim for today’s standards. Would be stoked to see a new revision of the m5 tho. If that happens the comparison would be more fair.
@vaclavkratochvil1204
@vaclavkratochvil1204 5 месяцев назад
How many positions has the zipp hub?
@frankschock9981
@frankschock9981 7 месяцев назад
I'd be curious which wheelset runs truest. Just received a front HiTop S wheel that's pretty wobbly. About 1mm lateral runout and almost 2mm radial. Pretty bad
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Did you warranty it?
@frankschock9981
@frankschock9981 7 месяцев назад
@bicyclestation contacted SRAM ZIPP and they said to return to JensonUSA. Not a very good resolution since Jenson doesn't have any more in stock. Will try to get Zipp to send warranty replacement. Might just pay to get it trued.
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Zipp will send jenson a replacement. That’s standard warranty procedure. If I shipped you a wheel and then you wanted me to warranty it I’d have to have you ship it back to me for evaluation and then if it was deemed to be a claim then sram would exchange it for a new wheel. I get billed for the new wheel then once they get the old one back I get a credit for it. You are probably better off having a local shop do the warranty so it cuts out the initial shipping step
@ghostdog6471
@ghostdog6471 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for your honesty regarding the bontrager wheels, but what about the older model? The XXX ones? Same issue with the spokes? The reason I am asking is because I have good deal on the last set of the bontrager xxx wheelset for 1500$ and I have a RockShox fork and still undecided whether to pull the trigger on them. I would be very grateful if you could give your opinion.
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 6 месяцев назад
I’d sell you a used roval control sl wheelset for 1500$. I don’t think that’s a good deal on the xxx. But when it comes to the xxx being good wheels they 100% are. I personally regret selling mine haha.
@ghostdog6471
@ghostdog6471 6 месяцев назад
@@bicyclestation, thanks for the quick response, i really appreciate it. But for that price i can buy the xxx ones brand new, that's why I asked you about the spoke tension and the quality of the rims overall. I guess they are better quality than the new ones RSL? Would you agree on that? One other thing that i need to figure out is about those torque caps.
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 6 месяцев назад
Oh yea if they are brand new with warranty that’s a great price
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 6 месяцев назад
I don’t think there’s a tourq cap for that wheelset either to be honest
@ghostdog6471
@ghostdog6471 6 месяцев назад
@bicyclestation ,Yeah, and the thing is, I just can't find something better for that price. The cheapest I can find the roval control sl where I live is 1700$ for the wheels again brand new
@skinny8019
@skinny8019 7 месяцев назад
The bontrager wheel with the spoke noise. Is this an anomaly? Does this spoke noise happen with the $1500 kovee pro. The model one down. With the bontrager 108T hub? Thank you. Great video.
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
I can’t speak on the kovee pro. Definitely not an anomaly. I’ve tested two wheelsets myself and had other people tell me the same thing about them.
@frankschock9981
@frankschock9981 7 месяцев назад
Kovee Pro's use the same spokes and lacing pattern so probably will have spoke rubbing noise unless you grease between spokes but that'll collect dirt
@skinny8019
@skinny8019 6 месяцев назад
wondering if the hub difference between the bontrager kovee RSL and pro make a difference in the spoke spacing.@@frankschock9981
@treyshepard1717
@treyshepard1717 7 месяцев назад
If Gibby was a wheel she’d be the bontragers because she’s really loud
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
100%.
@emilioformenti5870
@emilioformenti5870 7 месяцев назад
How is the trek supercaliber gen 2 riding?
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Someone bought it. I’m working on getting another one lol.
@Doggepp
@Doggepp 7 месяцев назад
I have been looking at a set of the Zipp hitop wheels for my new build, but them being centre lock actually kills it for me. What would you recommend for a Yeti SB120 build? Like a "heavy" downcountry/light trail bike? Im not sure if im gonna go with some XC wheels, or actual trail wheels. Dont need them to be 1300 grams, but I dont want them to be 2kg either. I have the new I9 Enduro Duo carbon wheelset on my trail/enduro bike, but not sure I want to shell out another like $3k on the new build, would like to get away a bit cheaper. If you have any recommendations I would love to hear them.
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Actually there’s a new Roval Traverse SL wheelset that looks really good for that kinda bike. I almost got a set for that Scor 2030 I build recently.
@Doggepp
@Doggepp 7 месяцев назад
@@bicyclestation Since I am in Europe, I dont want to buy roval products unfortunately... Their crash/it happens warranty does not apply to non US customers. I smashed the stock Traverse SL's that came on my stumpy evo, and Roval/Spec wont even answer my emails. Local bike shop says that Specialized wont help them with it either. Fun when you've spent $14k on a bike, and smash a $2k~ wheelset within 3 hours of riding, with a cushcore insert, and they cant even give me a discount on a new set. So went with I9 instead So thats the reason I am looking at other brands with actual worldwide warranty/crash support
@bicyclestation
@bicyclestation 7 месяцев назад
Not sure what happened with your wheels but the specialized website specifically says they cover wheels in the UK www.specialized.com/gb/en/roval-warranty
@Doggepp
@Doggepp 7 месяцев назад
@@bicyclestation Yeah im not from the UK unfortunately
@frankschock9981
@frankschock9981 7 месяцев назад
Zipps cheaper Hitop S wheelset uses 6-bolt brake mounts only
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