Bharat karnad at his brutal best. Showing mirror to the govt is necessary. Even I support BJP but i don't support them blindly bcoz India always comes first and for india's betterment govt needs to be criticized where it deserves.
Lt Gen PJS Pannu speaks a lot without saying much .. I think most Senior Indian Army people are that way. Bla Bla Bla Bla all the time Whereas, Bharat Karnad is a Sharp Guy with a high level of understanding.
@@padmabharali1306 why must India dump all burdens on Shri Modiji? Why not our bureaucracy/citizens create ways to deal our territory usurpers from asuric Chinaa? Asuras can b dealt in collective ways only & Modiji isn't God to deal this, alone..
@@katiresanarumugam4260 india developed nuclear weapon because a visionary PRIME MINISTER was there at that time , if the leader itself is chammak challo the FOLLOWERS will also get to chill and relax
Whereas Proff. Karnad speaks frankly and calls a spade a spade ,Gen Pannu speaks the most but says the least just like the bureaucrats have been doing for decades .
I was waiting for THIS! Saw Mr. Karnad in the audience but no episode in the playlist until yesterday. Mr. Karnad starts around 13:45. Gen Pannu spoke a lot but said not much of meaning! This is a bad pairing, Major Gaurav Arya. In the future, please have a journalist interview Mr. Karnad! Mr. Karnad should be brought back for another long form discussion! 🙏🏼
Bharat makes a very important point -- A purely defense, reactive strategy is never successful -- unfortunately, our politicians have not understood this at the international level although they practice it very well domestically!
LOL No need to overestimate China and no need to underestimate India. Chinese may be having contempt for us but we also have contempt for them. 1962 will be avenged if PLA does any misadventure now.
This is a think tank talks, please don't comment popularists ideas. This type of comments will get you some like but have no actual meaning. Please don't be the clown in the crowd with such comments.
Army people are too nice and quite passive for such discussions. They can't think strategically. Thy are trained to fight. They are not trained to plan strategically to subvert the enemy or counter enemy's subversion. Bharat Karnad is a sharp guy.
A great and insightful discussion indeed, are any government officials attending, i think these insights should be heard by people in power, otherwise it's an utter waste.
The most important point: Declare nuclear first use policy and deploy them on Frontlines.India is playing with fire if it thinks conventional arms can be much of a deterrence and private sector has a huge role to play;DRDO et al should all take back seat from here onwards
One should consider that argument that India is actually one of the largest and first "victims" of China's economic warfare on the world. The economic meltdowns of countries like Sri Lanka are mere after effects. India's trade deficit with China is essentially funding CPEC and much of the cost of the PLA's military adventures all along the LAC.
The eminent panel has put forth very relevant issues that need to be addressed. But they are very heavily biased towards the benefits of war equipment technology, electronic/cyber warfare. Totally agree with that, but they miss a point. The soldier behind the weapon is the most critical factor, and that is where I feel India has proven advantage over the Chinese soldier, whose motivation and commitment to die for the country is not proven. The perception is that the Chinese soldier is a sissy, since all or most of them are single children of their parents, and the Chinese place great importance towards their offsprings and carrying forward the family, much like Indians.
The reason Chinese viewed us as slaves because Indians were treated as great civilization but the first interaction between Indians and Chinese happened when we were used as instrument of British power to subjugate China. Opium wars were fought using Indian personnel and that led to complete humiliation of Chinese. This is Chinese psyche and that guides them to think that Indians will be used against them similarly. You must understand it in it's entirety. N
I agree with Prof. Karnad that India has to stop importing Chinese products. And I have come across enough defence guys, exactly like Pannu, who look smart, talk smooth, but actually are pretty clueless , viz a viz, defence strategy. Anyone who knows these high level army people knows just how much corruption has always existed/still exists within the Defence establishment at every level. Vested interests are everywhere and it's really sad. To borrow a Chinese saying, the fish rots from the head. I am tired of middle & upper class Indians saying that the poor people or the junior ranks are so corrupt, but they themselves are the first to give & take bribes, cut corners, break laws and sell the country down the drain.
Dr.Bharat Karnad is right we should have to shift our focus toward China. Deal with it in a way China understands. I have seen most of his interviews. He talked with the honesty he has towards his job. Sorry if our think tanks are not giving any honest advice to the government so what kind of job they are doing? In Cyber warfare we are also lacking. We have to be aggressive to handle China. Taiwan is handling the China Cyber attacks for a long. We should learn from them. Anything which is the need of the moment for our country should be said and done by the government. If we don't play our role towards this nation then we will not exist . Jai Hind.
@@ankit5682 IN A WAY GOOD WE KNOW & REALISE OUR SOFT BELLY. ALSO THANKS TO CHINA FOR WAKING OUR MILITARY & POLITICANS, WHO FOCUSED ON USELESS PAJISTAN, WITH MILITARY DOCTRINES & STRATEGIES. HOPEFULLY, POST 2020 WE HAVE REALISED OUR REAL THREAT.
@@moneywisefinserve268 I don,t think they still do , china loves to mimic usa a country that has a mad love towards innovation whether technology or military strategy and by law of nature you become what you mimic, India lacks innovation and the common sense of approving innovation thus downfall always
@@padmabharali1306 I BEG TO DISAGREE ON THIS. MIMICKING USA WON'T HELP CHINA CAUSE USA GETS BEST OF BRAINS FROM ALL OVER WORLD INCLUDING INDIA & CHINA. BUT SAME IS NOT THE CASE WITH CHINA & THEY KNOW IT. AGAIN ON INNOVATIONS IN CHINA ILL BEG TO DISAGREE CAUSE MOSTLY IN CHINA ITS COPY PASTED TECHNOLOGY FROM WHEREVER. THEY SURELY ARE FASTER THAN INDIA IN INNOVATIONS. I AGREE WE LAG BEHIND CHINA IN INNOVATING FASTER / TO LAY OUR HANDS WHATEVER WAYS, RIGHT OR WRONG. CAUSE WE ARE DEMOCRACY.
@@moneywisefinserve268 But don't you think that mimicking from the best also produce somewhat good result , the only thing that is stopping china,s complete domination in Asia is india although we are losing it day by day , they dont have to be better than usa they just have to be better than india which they are after the fall of india usa will have no choice but to seek peace with china , usa,s last hope is india ,
I think India must first decide what she wants and how she wants to go about it before trying to accommodate the Chinese Plans. To understand the Chinese Plans you first need to understand how the Chinese think which is the real challenge because most foreigners try to impost their thinking over the Chinese, which is the source of most misunderstanding. This illustrates the lack of proper planning which the Chinese appear to pay better attention to other nations who tend to assume too much to the detriment of accurate assessment. The Japanese and Chinese pay more attention to details, especially to the peculiarities from language difference, as opposed to the West whose tendency is to assume, their comprehension is more than adequate despite not knowing the other language. Few Westerners are prepared to acknowledge that this is an inadequacy to better overall understanding. To a degree, this attitude has risen historically by the past military dominance of the West, and to a lesser degree by Indians because of their association with the West. So now you can better understand the effectiveness of the tenure of the subject these participants are contributing to the discussion. What you say is not interpreted by the audience to what you mean, then you shouldn’t expect that their response will not be what you want. The subtleties of language are so critical to translate the intricacies of human thought that it is no longer possible to ignore when all parties possess similar levels of importance. The days of dominance of one party over others are long gone. Power resides in knowledge and political and economic influences are today, regulated by knowledge. However, habits are difficult to break and with people with inflated egos, their capability to change is minimal. Most conflicts are issues of attitudes from flawed perceptions. Knowing another language is the initial step to overcome the impediment of understanding.
CCP would try to do some mischievous act in coming time in East Leh Ladakh or Arunachal Pradesh areas inorder to divert the attention from internal failures 😑🤬
The best deterrent against China? Deploying 500: fission and boosted fission weapons made with reactor grade plutonium with thermal bridges to have sufficient fission materials. And load them in ballistic cruise missiles like K-4 and B05 with manoeuvring capability as well as super fast Agni-5 and then supersonic cruise missiles like Brahmos. MASS swarming precision attacks would be very hard to intercept. A well-trained and tightly managed as well as nimble nuclear strike force with an updated nuclear strike policy with threshold levels to back out of the no-first-use policy NEEDS to be published. But DEFT diplomacy is also critical with public relations and communication experts to mitigate tensions. It's showing the ability to inflict economic losses and military attrition but also the sanity to use diplomacy effectively.
Points made by Prof regarding trade and commerce wrt China makes perfect sense but Decoupling will take time. It's like Indian manufacturers have been abandoned or rather policies (remember CPC and INC agreement) were made to profit Imports from China rather than produce locally. And suddenly banning everything from China overnight may adversely impact not just Importers in India also people directly and indirectly employed e.g. transporters, retailers, etc. Aatm Nirbahar is all about reducing the trade deficit with China. Change will be slow and gradual. You don't expect 9 ladies to deliver a baby in 1 month. Any sudden change or rather knee jerk reaction will impact the govt. in due course of time. Prof. won't be going in Public to ask for votes. Will he? Prof. won't face the public it's the govt. that has to. So change will be gradual and will be driven by people with initiatives like vocal for local.
I have been listening to this bloke for decades. He talks more like a Outsider almost in the lines of a Pakistani General with a conspicuous accent. At your age and my age let us not recriminate the Governments all the Time. The Bottom line is the Chinese whom you describe as People with Dignity, the average Chinese need to get permission for exercising his Conjugal writes. See the Result of Sanjay Gandhi's nasbhandi and how the Indians consigned the Congress to Dustbin. He is not in line with the latest technology. His profound view that Indians should prostrate at the feet of PLA. Oh Common. is more of rehetoric.?
