XPan without the X 

Don’t write off 3D printed options. There is a whole world of opportunities that can be had with some 3D printed parts. I designed a kit to use 120 film in old style Polaroid land cameras and bring life back to them.

Quick note on dslr scanning panos: I just stitch several regular 35mm images together. Just need to make sure to get as close to 1:1 as possible and not have any of the film holder mask in the part of the image that overlaps. Works out well for me now that capture one has built in pano support (though it is still probably way slower/less reliable than Lightrooms) Sheesh the dream setup here. I am jelly! Great photos as always! Unfortunately I can't justify buying a Mamiya 7 so I must make do with my Bronica SQ + Pano Back (the back is actually very pricey but the camera is a fifth the M7 so hey). Granted I don't get that sweet 6x7 goodness and have to make do with the 6x6 less wide pano (4:9 aspect ratio... ;-;). I do have a pair of them 3d printed ones but still haven't tried them out. They should work in most cases but obviously way less convenient cause you need a dark bag to roll it back and stuff. And if you have an automatic medium format camera (as in it handles the leader etc) then you likely want to craft a paper leader and stick it on which is a big hassle). Pro-tip: Never force the wind lever or knob. You may think you used a 36 exposure roll but used a 24 and in the process of trying to force the wind, strip a gear or two, break your expensive toy and cry. Definitely not a true story. Nope. For anyone else curious, a fair few 6x6 cameras and some 6x45 cameras had oem pano adapters (even the Rolleiflex TLRs). Unfortunately 6x7 is lacking in that sense (I am still deeply upset Bronica promised they would release a 135w back for their GS-1 but never did....). Other options!: - The 3d printed stuff everyone else mentioned. A nice thing is you could pop those into a 6x9 camera and get REALLY WIDE stuff. Or into god forbid even larger medium format cameras like 6x12 etc... - LowFi option: The Lomography Sprocket Rocket is apparently very fun (In An Instant has an awesome video on it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rHs9BqiM6_o.html ) - I have seen some folk take an SLR body, dremel/cut more of the film gate, stick a Mamiya Universal etc lens on the front, apply copious amounts of gaffer tape and glue and make their own monstrosity that I assume takes wonderful photos If we want to leave behind 35mm and go into the bigger league: - There's the Holga 6x12 pinhole camera famous for all the Holga reasons but now also pinhole. You could even hack it into having a real lens (e.g. www.holgamods.com/holgamods/612_Pan.html) - There's a lot of really nice pinhole cameras in 6x12 and even some in 6x17/18. I shot 1 roll through my Zero 618 and I am really excited to shoot more with it. (The Ondu looks even more fun with its rise pinhole thing ondupinhole.com/products/6x17-ondurama-rise ) - 6x12 backs for 4x5 cameras are like ~$350-$450 and probably provide banger images (though in a measly 1:2 ratio). Heck you could buy a 6x17 camera (or a 5x7+617 back) for less than an Xpan - I have seen 1 6x24 camera....still cheaper than an Xpan - You could steal Jason's 8x10 camera and figure out how to shoot 4x10 on it

I'm amazed it's taken you (and Jason) this long to add this to your M7, they are wonderful bits of kit. Top tip, use the 50mm and it's rangefinder (beg borrow or steal one!:) - the bright lines have middle third markings making it very easy to frame the pano shot.

god I love the pano look these shots turned out amazing

Thanks for making this video! I have same kit and can't wait to try it out with my Mama Mia 7!

For anyone like me who desperately wanted to get into pano but doesn't have a medium format camera or xpan budget I highly recommend the horizon swing lens cameras. I ended up getting mine as a gift but the prices aren't to bad (especially compared to other true pano options), optics aren't perfect and there can be some distortion but overall I've gotten surprising fantastic results. It's a great option for testing 21:9 aspect ratio, also they're all mechanical. My only issue with the camera is rewinding gives me some trouble and mine occasionally gets lightleaks from the swinging mechanism, other than that one of the most fun cameras I have.

Truck shot is AMAZING!!!

You’re like the Phife hype to Jason’s Q-tip. There’s probably an innuendo in there some where but super fun video man!

My favorite shot is the two trailers; great light! I’ve often wondered how different an XPan would be from just masking off the same relative aspect ratio on my 645 or 500 C/M since the width of 120 ain’t that far off from two 35mm crunched together.

"Kyle McDaddy" 🤣🤣🤣

Those shots 🔥🔥

Best soundtracks on RU-vid by a country mile!

You guys are such a power couple 🫶🏼

If you want to do this but don't have the 3500 bucks to invest in a mamiya 7 (although i would love to have that camera, I never spend more than 300 euro on a camera) there is another option with good glass and an affordable price (relative to mamiya or hasselblad). You could get a bronica ETRS set for somewhere between 300-500 bucks, buy the 135W back for another 500 and suddenly you are shooting XPan like panorama's on sharp lenses and on a widely supported for parts system for less than 1000 bucks. The biggest hurdle is finding a 135W back coupled with the specially made 135W viewfinder glass which has the framelines for the panorama (runs about 150 bucks seperately) but if you are lucky like me you might get one in the bronica etrs you buy. And than it is possible to get shooting pano's eaven cheaper since you could buy the cheaper 135N normal 35mm back, and modify its front plate to shot wider panorama's. Those run you about 200-300 bucks and suddenly you are shooting panorama for 600-800 bucks. It's not as easy to handle but hell, shooting cheaper is never easy :p

Great informative video as I have been looking to add a panokit. Could you maybe do a video on how you scan panorama?

you did great! tht adapter is the best way to get panoramic shots. I do the same but with my Pentax 67

Okay, now I really want a Mamiya 7. Ive been eyeing the prices and waitin to jump and now there is even more of a reason. Glad you revisited this area though! I also heard about the fuji being kodak gold, crazy world we live in. Fuji hates film, they rather the world of film just fake it with some camera profiles. ope. I just love these panos, so good. About to get a 3d printer and want to try out the 35mm in my 645, we shall see what the future holds. Okay, now its time to go see what Baxter's dad brewed up into his video this week. Bye.

So glad I bought my kit in ‘09. Think I paid $140. Oh, and the best way to scan these (at home) is via fluid mount on a flatbed.

Any kits that allow the holes to be exposed too? I’m kinda liking those shots I see around… I hope to make/find a similar pano kit for my Mamiyaflex TLR. It will be weird looking into the viewer sideways though! It does work upside down over your head to get shots over a crowd or a wall. Tripod to start…

How did you get that mamiya 6 plate off to put it on the mamiya 7 plate?

I have one that I’ve never used. It’s been a closet queen. May just have to try her out now

Now I want a Mamiya 7. Never tried medium format but it looks so good!!

I got you. 🤝

What do you and Jason do for a living to be able to afford all this film gear

Why didn’t you get à panokit for your Pentax 6x7, more lenses to choose from?

How many pano shots do you get with this kit for your Mamiya 7 on 24/36 exposure 35mm film? What is the specific frame size vs. the 24x65mm size of the Xpan?

Wow, I didn't realize how much the price jumped up on these over the last few years. You could find them for less than $100 in 2019.

There is no way I could afford either an XPan or a Mamiya 7 kit, so I cobbled together an XPanski, which consists of a $60 Moskva-4 6x9 folder and $7 worth of 3d printed adapters. The lens is extremely sharp. the image is wider than an XPan, and when I'm walking around, it fits in my pocket, so it's a daily driver for me.

you have lost your desire for excessive empty foreground, and i DIG THAT! the fireplace and window shots at 2:40 - 3:20 are very good. almost an andrew wyeth vibe!

You are one funny dude! And better than that other guy with you…ha! Great video, very informative, you even got that switching the pressure plate part that I always forget. Btw You can use the 150mm with the pano kit and get the cinematic look.

That's an expensive way to add the crop panorama like an APS camera has. I like it!

100% Mamiya 7 with Pano Kit is better than an Xpan purchase. Those xpan electronics are too shaky for me to ever consider investing! Love the look of the shots

Great job! I was a bit late to the party for this one, but it helped me decide to get a pano kit for my Mamiya 7. Going to give it a trial run tomorrow... BTW, since you have a penchant for deserted properties, Ghosts in the Wilderness - Abandoned America by Tony and Eva Worobiec is a real feast for the eyes - all shot on 120.

I have the poor man’s pano.. a Lomography Sprocket Rocket. Cheap and not super quality but creatively fun to use.

Imagine you live in L.A., own the nicest camera gear out there and the only thing you shoot is abandoned shit in the desert. This is what happens when you are afraid of meeting Willem Verbeeck in the streets knowing you will loose a real fist fight over a photo of a tarp-covered car.

Is there a pano option for the Pentax 67?

I use my Yashica Mat 124G with a 3D printed adapter. Never had a problem. If the adapter does break I can have a new one in an hour.

I guess what also helps is those super sharp Mamiya 7 lenses.

Reading the title I thought this was a coming out as pan video. Pride month and all

I really wanna get a nice medium format camera that’ll work well for pano

Another fun video, thanks! You have some really cool shots in there showcasing the panoramic ratio. And a few others that are not quite my style. I live in Palmdale, so you guys go past me regularly. On the one hand, I would love for that junk to not be cluttering up the desert, it is depressing. OTOH, if it were not there what would you photograph?

A Two girls reference in 2022? You're the messiah.

"Cheaper than XPan? Not really..." Thank you for being honest. I guess a cheaper option is to pick one of those 3D printed cameras (which typically use Mamiya Press lenses). Well, of course don't expect it to be compact 😅😁

Thanks for the inspiration I'll just make a mask for my mamiya C33 for composition and crop it in ps The film is the same

I figured an even better hack that allows you to switch between both formats on the fly. But then both.

panos are dope!!

Nice work! Forgive me if this sounds stupid but couldn't you just crop your 6x7 images to 24x65 for free and get the same result?

I might buy an XPAN or TX, IF they were repairable. But there is absolutely no way I can afford that kind of money on a camera that might brick on me. It would give me so much stress.

I have been shooting film for years… Right now, I am asking “what does my film photography mean to film photography?”

Not sure what I'm missing, but when I want a pano, I just shoot multiple images and stitch in LR or PS. Does not matter which format, 35mm or 120. Best done on a tripod (that is level, or a leveling head), but i've done it hand held and it works.

I just rolled some 35mm on a 120 spool(with the backing paper ofc) and currently shooting with a 6x6 voigtländer. Maybe I'm gonna luck out and save a few grand on an Expan 🤡

If you already own a Mamiya 7 the pano option is a superior choice to the X-Pan. The lenses provide plenty of coverage (no vignetting) and you will never have to use that stupid filter with the dot in the center. Plus there’s no need to carry around another camera system. Genius!!!!

lmfao 2:06 best line this episode

I still think it’s possible to get an xpan. All you need to do is trade the Mamiya 7 lol. I have an xpan and love the images it churns out. But also keeping it as collateral.

yeah same feeling on ebay ahahah

You'll still buy a Xpan in the end and you know it. Or steal one from a friend who happen to have one.

half my job (materials engineer) is telling mechanical engineers designing shit for airplanes 'jesus fuck don't 3D print that are you an idiot' you're 100% right to not trust a 3D printed pano kit for your Mamiya. it will fail on you and if it's something in the goddamn film advance train it's probably going to break some other things when it does it's a piece of kit that costs three grand. you can afford to pony up the money for something actually made by using real production methods

Oh man the white border hurts when watching at night man. Please consider to change it man

you could just shoot 6x7 and then crop it lol

jUNK

Mamiya 7 is not cheap either!

bread

*Kyle McDaddy* 😂

So you're using a mask? Doesn't that make it technically a higher resolution Xpan? What's the point in this though? Can't you just crop in post?

but mamiya 7 is also unaffordable

I don't get it. Why not frame wide and crop to a panoramic frame in post, saving yourself 500bucks in the process? The frame isn't any wider than a normal 120 frame so you're not gaining anything in quality.

Yeah, there are so many other, cheaper ways to shoot pano. 😁

Why would I own 1 Mamiya 7 when I can just own 1 of every Holga? Checkmate atheists

Why didn't you just borrow your boyfriend's? I'm sure he'd only expected a twisty in return.

Why go thru all that BS, just shoot 120 and crop it to panoramic in photoshop. Cost $0 and no conversion kit needed. Im gonna buy a corvette and swap the engine from a Ford Taurus into it so I dont speed, instead of just not pressing the gas peddle as much...perfect logic.

What a very annoying persona.