Yagyu Shinkage Ryu | All Kata 

The best part of this video is the fairly accurate interpretation of the section which is identified as Okugi-no-tachi, which shows what Matsudaira actually wrote rather than how modern videos of Shinkage-ryū show Okugi-no-tachi. Apart from the video link given above, this other video ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pDzCqsJ2KYY.html ) effectively addresses the objections that the interpretation of the Okugi-no-tachi is inaccurate by showing the actual descriptions of Matsudaira and comparing it with the actual performance of the present Shinkage-ryū and the recreation. In particular, the video shows that the modern performance of the following Okugi techniques--Kōjō, Gokui, and Shinmyōken--differ radically from the description found in the e-mokuroku as written by Matsudaira, while the above reconstruction is arguably closer to the e-mokuroku. However, although this video has striven to interpret as accurately as possible the descriptions by Matsudaira Nobusada, the interpretations are not as accurate as they should be for two main reasons. First, the interpretation does not take into account the actual surviving kuden of Shinkage-ryū as preserved by the modern school and presented in the school's various videos. This is seen especially in the first kata, Ittō-ryōdan, which does not follow Matsudaira’s description at all. But most importantly, the interpretation seems to be reliant on a translation or translators who are unaware of Yagyū Shinkage-ryū's actual terminology, e.g., the translators are unaware that the stance in Yaegaki is indeed called Hasso, as what other schools call Hasso is called In-no-kurai in Shinkage-ryū, and Shinkage-ryū’s Kasumi-dachi looks way different from other schools’ Kasumi. Also, the Jōdan of Shinkage-ryū is actually a high “Chūdan” (i.e., Jōdan-no-seigan) wherein the kissaki points up, while what other schools call Jōdan is actually called Raitō, and so when in Usen-saten the text says “打太刀より上段の清眼に” the video above incorrectly shows the uchidachi raising his sword to Raitō. And there are many more instances like this. Also, there is the issue of how 十太刀 and 和卜 are transcribed as "Jūtachi" and "Waboku" respectively rather than the proper "Tōdachi" and "Kaboku" respectively, which seems to betray a reliance on the translation of Sato Hiroaki than independent translators who are familiar with how Shinkage-ryū terms are properly pronounced. But that being said, the above video is a better approximation of what the kata of Yagyū Shinkage-ryū appeared as at least in 1707 when Matsudaira wrote in the descriptions than to how Yagyū Shinkage-ryū does it in 2024, and I would argue that this video is closer to what Yagyū Sekishūsai intended in the e-mokuroku.

Also, in the original e-mokuroku, what is now known as the "Okugi-no-tachi" was not labeled as such, instead it was considered part of the Tengu-shō, with the 4th kata series called the "Ni-jū-nana-kajō-kiriai" (廿七箇条截相), which at that time was considered the actual Okugi-no-tachi of Yagyū Shinkage-ryū and which was taught solely by oral tradtion, or kuden (口伝). I had hoped that this video could have at least mentioned the existence of this particular kata set which in the e-mokuroku differed considerably from Yagyū Munenori's list in the Heihō Kaden-sho or in Yagyū Jūbēi's Tsuki-no sho.

These are direvt interpretations of the emokuroku so please read the original.

@@natoriryu Guys, do yourselves a favour and stop misleading people. The text you are referring to was not meant for practitioners of Shinkage Ryu. It was only meant to give a vague idea, a hint at what the kata may look like. But it is not instructional , because it leaves out important details which are part of the transmission process (hence the word "Kuden").

I agree

There is no such a thing as "the actual tradition", when it comes to kenjutsu. Japan displays (at least) 700 traditional kenjutsu or bugei ryuha. Each one is "the actual tradtion" of itself. Some are absolutely realistic and obviously efficient, somme don't look like they are to people who are not taught in them, some have obvously totally drifted from the original teachings. I have been taught in more than one kenjtusu ryuha and I have been lucky to practice the Kobayashi Ryu no aïkiken for twenty years. The many similarities in these kata from shinkage ryu and what was taught by Kobayashi Hirokazu and is still taught by André Cognard demonstrates perfectly the filiation between Shinkage and O Senseï Ueshiba's aïkiken (jujst as his Aîkijo comes from jukenjutsu and Hozeoïn ryu no Sojutsu)... The extreme efficience of Kobayashi Ryu aïkiken taught through more than 120 kihons speaks for itself and for Shinkage. THIS IS A REAL THING.

@@eriglebrundelabouexiere472 You're dead wrong with your assessment. Of course there are 'actual traditions' to pass on, otherwise there would be no need to label them e.g. as Katori, Kashima or in this case Shinkage Ryu. And Morihei Ueshiba didn't have Menkyo (license) in any Kenjutsu tradition. So it's quite amateurish to cite him or his students as authorities in this regard when they're factually not.

@@user-lq2yi8op7w You obviously didn't notice that it's not the same to write "the actual tradition", and "actual traditions". Please, read my comment again with a little more desire to understand it. Domo arigato!

@@eriglebrundelabouexiere472 I would recommend the same to you since you seem not to have a proper understanding of Koryu and their transmission. For example, there is an official line of Katori Shinto Ryu, which is endorsed by the current Soke and which differs from other lines in execution and other details. Still this line can be rightfully called "the actual tradition" (of Katori Shinto Ryu that is), because they can prove Menkyo Kaiden among other things. The same goes for other traditions like Shinkage Ryu where the Soke line, the main line, is still extant and can rightfully be called the actual tradition (of Shinkage Ryu in this case). So please stop your silly semantics game.

Yes

Instead of trolling join the conversation. Please forward where you think it differs in the text in Japanese please

@@natoriryu I've already joined the conversation, at length, on 3 videos on the other channel. Is this jawn run by someone other than Mr. Cummins or something? But in answer to the question it differs at the part where it says "this is an oral transmission." I'm aware Mr. Cummins likes to downplay the importance of Kuden as "just more details" but since he is not a koryu practitioner, and seems to neither know nor care how Yagyu Shinkage Ryu is actually trained, he's got no idea what he's talking about. Even if I didn't think it was a problem getting to the broad strokes of how Owari Yagyu does things now from most of these descriptions (naturally changes have happened), what these gentlemen are doing is bereft of the underlying logic of what makes something Shinkage Ryu.

That’s really not true at all. In fact research shows that’s the opposite

@@natoriryu What research? Your amateurish guesswork? Please cite any valuable, authoritative source that can corroborate your claim!

Haha sorry

How can it be both cool and bad kendo? Unless you think bad kendo is cool?

@@johnnemo6509 It is cool & I apprefciate that old kenjutsu kata are being researched, but it to my mind looks like modern Kendo, which is not traditional kenjutsu. So it is like bad modern Kendo, yes. Modern kendo has its own interior logic - shinai striking & fencing & kata - but kendo kata is unlike kendo fencing with shinai. Bokuto is not shinai. Why strike with bokuto like it is shinai? & other aspects that confuse kendo with kenjustu just looks bad.

This can not be modern kendo. It is a direct translation and demonstration of the 1707 Matsudaira text.

Bokuto are just sword simulators, same goes as shinai. If a sharp edge landed on you, your skin will tear open, your tendons will be screwed. The whole idea not that deep

@@tertia0011 thanks for the explanation sounds like you are comparing different things, with Kendo as a competitive sport and differentiating good and bad with how well it does in competition. to Kenjitsu kata. It would be more appropriate to compare this with the kata of the Nihon kendo renmei. Modern sport kendo technique has adapted to its tools and rules. use of the shinai and its construction removes a number of considerations that are retained with kata performed with Bokuto or live blades: curvature of blade and the use of positive and negative space to control the center line, the purpose of different hardnesses of the construction in different areas of the blade, use of the draw cut and coring. if you watch closely these principles are included in this demonstration, it's kind of like saying Judo kata looks like bad modern competition judo because it does not share the same purpose, saying it looks like bad modern kendo's a superficial analysis akin to saying a fork looks like a bad spoon. Respect to all.