Yamaha DX7 vs the clones | Arturia DX7 V | DEXED VST 

great to hear from a fellow dev, really appreciate the comment and some clarification on this comparison! i've now redone the test using the optimal settings and will release the video tomorrow. suffice to say, i'm very impressed with the accuracy of the emulation, and tomorrow you'll all be able to hear this for yourselves. THANKS for stopping by and helping make this great instrument!! One thing though, you seem to suggest there is a difference between playing midi into the plug and playing a real dx7, well, if I captured the midi-out from the DX7 (which I did) then there is no difference. Finally, enhancement request, make the velocity scaling sticky when changing presets... YOU ROCK!

Ah yeah, that's smart! The difference should be very minor if any then.

Thanks for this video! Good to know the disclaimer. I have found dexed GUI to be frustrating and trying to find patches on the internet is also frustrating. Looking forward to trying out the Aturia version!

Do you know Jason in Arturia?

@TaleTN with all due respects your reply regarding the velocity problem does not make sense. Surely in 'DX7' mode the VST should be reaching full velocity sooner, eg at 100. But it doesn't, it only reaches full velocity in 'full' mode. In short these two modes would appear to work completely opposite to how one would expect.

The duller and muffled tone in the Arturia DX7 V was caused by the velocity mode being set wrongly. Watch this for a more accurate comparison: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iHycGwuWcn0.html

It certainly sounded "brighter" and more alive to my ears. Something about the EQ of the sounds. It sounds very FM. But admittedly the lows don't go as deep as the original DX7.

@@CandyAppleBlue I think it's because it has different velocity scaling

I like the dynamics of the DEXed its appears more varied as a solo instrument but could require additional processing in cutting through in a dense compressed mix. Yeah out of the box they sound great, not like a real piano (when recorded) it sounds awafully muddy at the lower mids along with the annoying mechanical sounds (artifacts from - hammer, adjacent string vibrations, wood knocks, string resonance, ect). FM rulez, so clean, brighly polished, agressive high end harmonics, making the analogue synth old N dull, brings back the teen years first time hearing fresh new palate of complex sounds. Back then I was tired of the commodore 64 ‘s (square/saw tooth osc & boring subtractive filters), any sound generated to me sounded like an advance modified beep, not knocking the 64 with its clever ADSR for its decade. The 64 lost its thrills when you known its limitations and when you hear a note it generates, you can picture it in your mind how it was its constructed, same old, same old, boring! It is the FM synthesis that was magic to my ears with so many possibilities. FM open my eyes and my ears. When your hearing this new synth how one note pressed & the sounds texture; its oscillations varied in pitch & spectrum, complex variations in time, that’s magical to me, as if the layers of sound is revealed seperately. To me Yamaha has set a revolution, marked its era, made the 80’s, imagine if it was not invented, what pop music could of sounded like with traditional synth. I guess that’s a RU-vid video title some to create, we can all have a laugh of the contrast. Something new I learnt today, DX7 is mono.

I think it's actually "Dexed"

If you pronounce DX7 (Dé-X-7) then i suppose you say Dé-X-ed. You have to practice on that word and you will understand and pronounce it correctly...;)

TheDukeofJuke lol you slightly kid? You’re telling me, the person’s whose last name is moog can’t pronounce his own name? 😂

It's Dee X Ed - as in DX Editor

@@chintimin No you're both wrong, it's pronounced 'Dexed'

ah yes, i remember now how much I enjoyed the real thing. more than any other vintage synth that I revisited last year.

tl;dr - among the many instruments I've owned and lost (i.e. sold in a moment of short-sightedness and stupidity), my ~'86 DX7 ranks near the top. There was an indefinable quality, that goes beyond nostalgia. and my regret is palpable. Don't ever let it go, for you may never forgive yourself. ; _ ;

@@SSeanMan embrace brevity

and i dont care what sugar dunkin donuts uses for their donut glaze, i just like to eat the donuts!

i'm glad you enjoyed my angle. i'll publish a new comparison tomorrow using the corrected settings. however wanted to tell the story, probably some will see the whole exercise as a waste of their time, so glad to hear the contrary from you.

The arturia is great for modulations -- It may not be DX7 but its a dream FM synth

The problem with the Arturia is a wrong setting, which he fixes halfway through the video. After that, it sounds identical.

@@Scripture-Man I have the V Collection, but I'll still take my real DX7 over this.

In dexed you can choose with one DX7 model you want Simulate (Mark 1 or 16 bit FD)

i know what you mean ed, i feel a bit bad about this too. I don't want to do Arturia or their developers a disservice so I have an update to release tomorrow which will put things right. three vids is pretty good publicity for their product :)

I have to agree entirely.

Must admit again I thought the same. However, this channel is not crap and I am not unsubscribing.

He was demonstrating a common problem users might have and how to solve it.

Yup

To be fair, the "muffled" setting is the default setting, which apparently is difficult to find, and to switch off. Nevertheless, this video is very long with a lot of waffle, and issues like this should have been flagged up at the start of the video so we knew he was going to fix it.

haha, yeah i understand your frustration. thanks for following along with me on the journey.

I was about to comment the same thing, I was getting really mad hahah. I'm glad I watched the whole thing!

Aurturia should make the velocity range like the original BY DEFAULT if its supposed to be an EMULATION.

i think analog lab is pretty great and with so many patches, no need for deep editing, combine that with Dexed and you have analog and digital 80s covered!

Absolutely, Woody. In my case though - I have V Collection 5... which has all but the four new synth of VC 6. The free Analog Lab upgrade and it's a fantastic upgrade. I was on the fence about the DX-7 v though. Not so much anymore. :) Thanks again for the great review! Keep 'em coming. Joe

lol, good to know!

To be honest Dexed, sounds good too and some presets, have their own character

Orio Menoni yeah, it’s a wrong setting. He fixes it at 14:19

@@TheFatRat Thanks, I was a little dispointed before you pointed out...I really like the outlook of Arturia one.

@@TheFatRat ooooh that makes sense. My first impression was that there was a velocity issue. He should pin your comment haha

This

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i figure it would be the other way around, harder to distinguish the clones in a busy mix than in isolation.

i agree with your conclusion there, glad to hear that you got to grips with logic and dexed, i'm impressed, respect!

yeah, people too quick to fire off a comment!

YES, YES, YES, what Paul said ^^^^^^

I think that arturia should have also included a FS1r more, and perhaps modes to emulate those AWM + FM synths that Yamaha did, so that it would feel like much more than the free software.

echo that, when i had a real dx7 I still sometimes used dexed coz it was quicker and more convenient to use in the DAW.