I own a Tenere 700 nearly a year now, and as a 1.90cm height and 100kg i only need to upgrade the suspension other than that pretty much is a 100% solid bike and i love it . Regards from Cyprus/Europe. Love your channel 🙌
Agree, 184 and 103kg "dry". Only had to upgrade springs as i easily can bottom out stock ones. I have exhaust muffler raised with now a build in weak spot that isnt the frame. So when i fall, it isnt the frame that has bent, but only a piece of metal that i can replace.
my absolute favorite bike. i've owned 10, probably go through more... but my Tenere 700 will never leave me. really loved the new Suzuki Vstrom 800... for adv, its a close second for me.
I’m one of the guys that is still torn between the 901 Expedition and T7. The Norden has all the bells and whistles and much better package off the showroom floor. The lower CG is much more appreciated in tough handling situations, but there’s no denying that the CP2, agile handling, and reliability of the T7 just keeps it competitive in a fast growing market. The issue is, the price becomes negligent on the Yamaha after you factor in all the work needed to bring it up to speed with the others. Suspension, skid plate, seat, and crash bars and you’re already at 890/901 price range, without cruise control, traction control, and all the tech the euro bikes provide. Tough call…
I really do appreciate a lot about this youtube channel, but what I really appreciate is how these guys are real people riding their favorite bikes having real fun…
Perfect review of the T7.. I bought the Camel ADV rear brake lever and upgraded Galfer brake pads and my rear brake has come up to acceptable standards only , not great. Oh well. The bike is the most reliable of any ADV on the planet except maybe the Tenere 1200. That gives the rider nothing to worry about but what mods he wants to do and where he wants to ride.. which is fun!!
I went for a test ride on a new 2023 T7. And ended up buying a 2023 CRF 300L. The T7 was so top heavy, long and crazy high. Don't kid yourself, an average rider will not be punting the T7 off-road like your big star utuber is.
In Australia I consider my skills, slightly above average. That said I agree with weight issue and I LOVE the CRF. On this channel we've built a cracker. Worth a look.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Lol, "slightly above" is like saying the sun is a warm place! Yes I watched the build, that was nice. However I already have a 250 Rally and was interested in building something like the old XR 500s a lightist trailbike that you can ride all day with enough go to make life interesting. And at only $6425 au where I live was bang for buck!
Hi. I'm considering getting a motorbike license, I have very little experience riding motorbikes, only one day at marokko as a present for my 40 yo birthday and other three days at a karting track with supermotard. I have to say I disagree with this comment. The other day I rode (outside of the roads, on a big closed circuit of road) a t7 a 701 rally and a CRF 300l. I have to say the CRF is by far the most easy to ride, it's low, it's not very powerful, everything it's easy, but if you like to give the thing some speed it shows its limits very easily, the t7 is the best mix between off road and on road I guess. It's not very high, I could get to the floor on my toes (it was mounted with the higher seat option) and the bike is smooth. The 701 is the more aggressive option, high as fuck, very prone to slide the rear and with suspensions that I have no way of even begining to look for their limits. To sum up, in my opinion saying the t7 is not for everyone because of the height and so on is not completely objective, I am 1.74 and didn't find it that tall. (Don't try the 701 then) and I found the CRF 300 l as a very nice bike but one you can get bored of very fast of you like to get to speed on it. Just my opinion. Have a nice day!
I wanted a t7 for years and when I finally had the finances to get one I ended up with a tuareg 660 instead due to availability. (Wait a year+ after orders or a few months) I absolutely love my Aprilia and have about 2.5k miles on it now. We only have one dealer in Washington State and they said mine was the first to be sold to a customer! I ordered it ASAP as soon as it was announced lol Anyway, thanks for the video I still love the t7 and like seeing info about them
Good vid Dave. Enjoyed. Tight fit mate. Pinch up at the swimming hole. I agree with you a 100% on this machine. It's my RTW bike for certain, hands down. Fuel mileage , dependability and simplicity are the sounding reasons for that. Yes, it has shortcomings but nothing I can't deal with or adapt to. My bike is my bike and no body elses. I have Ohlins front and rear made for me and my carry items. I got a hell of a lot of other items such as a Acerbis fuel tank and all kinds of protection guards and such. A lot of expense for sure but a lot are necessary. I feel Yamaha as many other Japanese makers sell a great basic machine at a market level od sales and at a price point. You get a really good frame and a wonderful motor with this to build your own way. I stock trim many will ride and do serious distance and it will be fine for them. At 67 almost 68 I want what I want and it be able to perform well beyond my limits. But when you need it most, you got it. A couple items, A Sargent heated seat, replaces my thinned out custom made Seat Concepts model and a new made rear brake lever from Camel ADV Products. A really good fix for a sticking loose rear factory brake lever. Try one, you won't regret it. They make top quaity components and are really the hreatest people to deal with. Riders they are. Check out their channel. Lot of riding the Desert X Duc in hell bent places out west. Now your comment on the rear brake, what do you think it is Dave? Is it the caliper, brake line, or maybe the master cylinder. Changing pads to another type, brand, does that help? Or is it just wrong? Thoughts. Now glad you and Clubby are getting the new to you and maybe never for me in USA, Raid model. I know it's going to take a while but you will be one of the first to ride both and hopefully extensively. I think I would like to have one given the lower C of G but my bike is mine. Hard to jump on another and do or feel the same. And that's not all. Those tanks take time to fill. And the support protection guard/band seems a throwback to the old Tenere mode; as it was equipped the same way. I've seen the Raid tricked out with all the factory options, pretty darn nice. All in time. You take care. Keep up the good work. Someone has to do it. Hope Clubby has a good safe ride up to the Snowy Mtns. Sure he will have a wild report on the Raid. Now for Nugget to test one.
Hey Dave Thanks again for sharing Years back we used take the ABS fuse out of the BMW F650… problem solved If I recall the ABS light stayed on permanently but no more scares after stopping for a photo op or break only to realise you’d forgotten to turn it off on the next tricky corner or decent
I weigh 80kg and found that the cheapest remedy for stock suspension, is to go a bit slower. I also have a slutty 250 that I ride most often, but the T7 is marriage material 😍 I agree about the rear brake. Its the weakest point on the bike, and it varies - especially if I washed the bike with unspecified cleaning agents. I had to shorten the side stand out of the box, as the bike was not sturdy on the side stand. I ended up lowering the suspension a bit, and then had to shorten the sidestand again! If I ride like a christian, it gives me > 400 km/ Tank. But I agree with you, hard highway riding increase consumption to almost 5l/100. (The trip computer is pesimistic, and often report 6.6L, but when I fill up, I always get less than 5. (>20km/l) I also love the simplicity. My mates on their "tech bikes" has learned that I dont wait for them to fiddle for traction or weather or estrogen levels, they can follow when they are done fidling. I save quite a bit of time. I always thought TC is that thing in my right hand..
Great video, I drive my Tenere700 since December 2019 and have now reeled off 40,000km. I have rebuilt quite a bit, for example the HP-Corse High Exhaust. I like my Tenere very much. Cheers vom Germany
Well, I signed for a 24' T7 this morning. I'm excited to get back on Team Blue. My first two bikes and a snowmobile were Yamahas, I'm getting back to my roots. Bittersweet that I'll be selling the 890 but I've had the local shop going trough it and the next owner will be set to travel the World. Time for the T7 mods to begin.
Thanx for All Things Tenere 👍 Bought mi T7 in 2020. My first Bike 😎 love it. ride it. drop it. pick it up. repeat. My wife said: marry it and call her ‚Trude‘ since day one
It's probably the best bike for international travel. Well I guess the best bike is the one you love, but this is the one I used without problem in Algeria.
Hi Dave Enjoying the video. Heading east on the Barkley Highway, strong headwinds, two up with luggage I saw close to 10L/100km on my T7. It’s just another challenge to overcome 😁
Yeah, there is a huge variance of fuel usage on the T700. The master for economy is Stephen Gall. I've been riding with him and he gets another 50 kilometres out of a tank. We call him the Tenere whisperer.
The suspension has been my biggest concern. I’m at about 104kg and I have found having the proper springs makes a huge difference. The springs are hard to come by still.
I am finding allot of t7's have air in the rear brake system. I use a vacuum fluid extractor to bleed brakes, but it's best to use the vacuum tool, and pump the brakes at the same time.
Just following up on your T7 videos. I picked up a 24 T7 after the prices came down. Im really looking forward to making some trip ! Around Bend Oregon out on 2 wheeels OUT!!
As always a great review, honest as always. I was hoping to find one here in Canada, but had no luck given how rare they are. I ended up with a Aprilia 660, and it's definitely very good competition for the T7. Time will tell if it ends being as reliable. Keep up the good work! I really enjoy your posts! 😃
I think the Aprilla is a fantastic bike. If it was made by Yamaha, It would have been my choice, though I prefer the look of the T7. Enjoy her, and keep us posted on reliability.
trying to get myself one here in Texas Dave. I'm not sure if they're just not sending us enough of them or we are just buying them as fast as they can make them. Love the channel!
Essa nova motocicleta que aqui no Brasil ainda não temos pra comprar é a moto perfeita, eu tenho uma GS1200 AC 2012 e uma Ténéré 660 e sei que a T7 é essas duas juntas e melhoradas, a moto definitiva, a moto perfeita pra tudo, pra qualquer caminho, qualquer distância, qualquer destino, qualquer estrada, muito mais que qualquer outra moto no mundo. Essa é A MOTO e ponto final no assunto, perfeita para o Brasil e feita para mim. Talvez um dia ela chegue aqui, só posso rezar e esperar.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV No Brasil a incidencia de impostos de importação tornam os preços de motocicletas importadas quase impraticaveis, mas quando elas são montadas aqui em Manaus-AM em modulos CKD os impostos não incidem tanto e os preços tornanam-se atraentes. Essa foi a opção da BMW para as suas motocicletas para o mercado nacional confiando à DAFRA esse serviço tercerizado. A Yamaha tem um grande parque fabril em Manaus-AM e poderia repetir essa estratégia com a T7 assim como faz com outros modos como a MT-09 e a MT-07. Na faixa de preços das concorrentes eu tenho certeza que a T7 seria vendida aqui tanto quanto pão 🍞 de manhã cedo, somos um mercado consideravel se centenas de milhares de consumidores esperando ansiosamente por essa moto.
Hey just have to tell you I love your show!!!!!!!! Love motorcycle adventures!!!!! I'm terrible at shifting. But love watching riders who can. I once had a Honda CR 250. It was fun but my woman didn't want me having one. Plus shifting was difficult. Keep recording. I'm about to have a partial knee replacement surgery coming up. I'll need your help to deal with my pain . Love Nugget Interesting fellow. The places you ride are phenomenal!!!!!!
Thanks for the nice video. Is there not a rear brake fix (camel). I love my T7 from the start 2019. In the end of 2022 i did make the switch to the WR....and i love that even more. I love the upgrades and the gearbox of that one is like butter!! It is a keeper. I sold my 2021 AT AS DCT that i owned next to it because i prefer the T7 WR.
Great honest video, thanks for sharing. Just liked and subscribed! Can I ask what you’re running for tires on your T7? What would you recommend after the stock tires wear out?
Firstly I'm sponsored by Pirelli. That aside I was using Pirelli before that. If you do lots of dirt, Pirelli Rally Scorpion on the front and the back doesn't matter that much..
I’m in the market for a mid sized Adv but I’m beyond confused with so many good choices. T7 isn’t near top of true list but that reliability is getting it closer up there. So far the Norden 901 Expedition is winning the 890R in 2nd place but man those prices.
I’ve been between the 901 and T7 for a while. The 901 provides all the creature comforts, but it will not be the same competition in the tough stuff off-road where the T7 shines. It will outperform the T7 for touring on pavement and long gravel trips, though. Have to decide what type of riding you’ll do most.
Thanks for this review india doesn't have these options easily available especially anything above 250 cc n twin cylinder parallel or v ( no way ) ... am sure the RE HIMALYAN was inspired by the T700 .... but it comes nowhere close.. .. love watching the reviews and would love to spend about a year riding on the Australian outbacks ... thanks and keep posting.
You’re in the outback. Most of us are on roads and the roads for our adventures. I want to know if the T7 is good on the road and green lanes in the normal European countryside that seat looks like a plank. I wouldn’t last 30 minutes on thatand that’s the first thing I would change before the suspension. It wasn’t built as an off-road Enduro. Again that seat would have to go and I’d have to find a tubeless solution for the wheels. Apart from the seat and the tubeless, the bike is perfect. In my view I just sold my ktm 790 adventure at a heated the engine noise.
What is 'looks like a plank'. I haven't heard any complaining about seat comfort. Interesting comment without sitting on it. It's Centre of gravity is way higher than the 890. YOu'll notice that more than any seat.
Dave love your channel the cover on the t7 do they trap dirt and crap behind them ?think of putting some on my Africa twin It would be great to see you at the ABR in 2024 in the uk you would make a great speaker I could listen to your tails all day long
In my Eye the T7 has no competition sure the adventure bike category is a cesspool of OK motorcycles the KTM stands out probably the most out of everything but the T7 does it all and it's simple and I own a Suzuki
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Well when you find a motorcycle that has Everything You Want out of The Box Let Me Know I'm Still looking Myself but they're getting Close
I hear a lot of praise for the T7 and I was wondering how this compared with the Red variant, the Honda Africa Twin. I hear a lot of good on both and interested on your read. T7's seem to have a very strong second hand market and prices seem to be right up there. The Honda known for it's bulletproof engine and seems though not to pull such a high price but again still not a cheapie. Interested in your thoughts Dave.
Nice country there , one point if reliabilty on a adventure bike is not a Pro then well known others need reliabilty reported in the con catergory , right up the top of the list would be noted for Adventure riding . Do the others have contract clauses in there marketing agreements Dave , rarely do you here it unless you know the owners or watch non comercial adventures.
The best way of establishing reliability is unfortunately trolling the user groups for the models. I've got to say there are some very concerning trends.
I love the T7, looks, and reliability, but was wondering why your twin is not a KTM 890. This because your other keeper is a single cylinder KTM 690. Yes, everyone will mention reliability, but you yourself travelled from London to Sydney on a KTM. As for the T7 being a keeper, maybe the world raid would be, a better, obvious choice.
Dave, I would like to ask, have you heard anything about hard to shift to 2nd and 3 gear? I have to lift 3-4-5 times to get it to go into gear. Only 3000 mi on my T-7. Its also hard to down shift as well from 6-5- so on. Any help would be appreciated.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Decat: exhaust without catalysator, bigger airintake/filter, Rapidbike is a piggyback ECU unit. Self Adaptive Fueling Control Module, for smoother fueldelivery.
I found those OEM crash bars to be a complete joke, they bend way too easy and they cracked my cowling. I now have the sw motech and they are far superior
A lot of motorcycle and car reviewers make this mistake, Which is they don't tell the audience how tall they are, how much they weigh and other aspects to who they are and how they fit on the bike or in the vehicle...... I am 6 foot 6 it is important to me to know whether or not I will fit on a bike or in a vehicle.....
I doubt you can get away with $1000. Teknik don’t even post the price, probably more like $3k for normal punter. So replacement cost of the bike shown is closer to $30k - direct competitor of 890 and Desert X.
You would think aye! But then again, the Austrians are the same.......they've been selling their enduro bikes as 'ready to race' with very soft rubbish forks for years now! Good to see they've gone back to decent forks for 2024 though.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV woah, cool. Firstly i wanna say i enjoy your content. And it was just a funny little spelling error when listing the cons of the t7 seight height. Greetings from Canada mate!
I bought mine 3 Years ago, primarily because I wanted a bike that would do everything, tour, commute, and some gentle ( Trail ) off roading. Before the test ride at my Local Dealer, I was pretty much convinced the T7 was the bike for me,. It just had to feel good to ride . 20 minutes into the test, I was amazed with the engine, for road riding it has all the power I need , I have ridden for years, so many machines - ( Years in Mototrcycle trade - easier to count which machines I have not ridden than those I have ) so around 70BHP is all i require. The general feel of the T7 is homogenous, everything working so well together, in just about any situation, 4 annual European tours later I still love the machine, and am hugely bonded to it. When you are thousands of miles from home, having a bike which you know WILL start and not fail you, is a massive attraction for me. I have fitted Akrapovic Siencer, H&B centre Stand, Kaoko Cruise Control, Addventure Screen adjusters and Yamaha Low seat option. Love it.
Great honest review of the Tenere, I'm a Tenere owner and can relate to the cons with the bike, however the rear brake can be fixed with the "The Fix" - T7 Rear Brake Pedal from camel adv. its a real game changer for that spongy rear brake.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV it fixed the rear brake issue for me as well. Stiffer lever and more leverage by design, which leads to better brake feel, more subtlety and more power when needed. Cannot recommend more!
That’s all interesting. I would have said the rear brake was wooden and lacking in feel and power. I do have some nerve problems in my feet though. Another reason for me to let the ABS do its thing.
I love my T7. I tend to reach for my 701 more often but every time I get back on the t7 I’m reminded how amazing it is. Just a total joy to ride. If I had to have one bike that would be it. I’m keen to hear your WR thoughts in the coming weeks
I've had my T700 since April 2020 and love it. The bike has now reached 65200 km. A lot of gravel road and 4 wheels road. I have never had a problem with this bike. I do the maintenance myself. It is an easy to maintain motorcycle. This bike never travels without the luggage except for my practice in the sand pit near my house. The total weight during my travels is 380kg (motorcycle, luggages and myself). This motorcycle is awesome. Thank you for your report.
Really appreciated this long term review, Dave, and I feel the same about mine! I have 10,000 miles on mine now and the most notable improvements I've made so far have been the tail-tidy, one-finger clutch, taller wind screen (like Clubby's), removed the OEM crash bars, but most importantly....changed out that rear brake lever to 'The Fix' by Camel ADV (awesome improvement!!). I got about 6, 000 miles on the original tires but have now changed them to the Motoz Tractionator GPS and really happy with that so far! I don't do a lot of mud, but for the gravel roads, water crossings, and tarmak they have been great! As always, thanks heaps for your great work!! Ride safe!
Excellent review...glad your T7 is a keeper! Very pleased with mine after 3 years, and although its considered a 'simple ' bike, in comparison to my XR650R it's a Rolls Royce! The engine is great...tractable, reliable and quick enough to have a blast when you want to. Love it!! Cheers Steve
Just my two cents ,but if you can't do it on a T7 it's not really ADV riding more like enduro riding, ADV is meant to be a crossover, sure you can do long distance on a 250 but that would be a bit painful, they're great on the technicle stuff, but I'll keep loving my T7, and use my 450 for enduro.
I have the T7 and WR 250. I rode the Idaho BDR on the WR, plus the trip there and back. The WR is no T7 on the highway but the T7 is no WR on the trail. 6000 mile loop with 1300 of it on the trail.
About to preorder the 2024 model at my local dealership still building my off road skills on the KLX300 till then. Great video I definitely wouldn’t be ready for the level of difficulty of the trails you where doing in the video. But great to see it handling it well in it.
Reliability is the main factor here. If the orange bikes were reliable, there would be no competition, but being what they are, Yamaha can get away with the lack of suspension performance and overall technology
It's the reason men marry the girl next door type instead of the supermodel, you just know you're going to get more action , reliability and fun. Leave the supermodel to the guys that love spending money on maintainence .
Love your channel Dave . I had a tenere 660 and jumped to the ktm 990. But am seriously thinking about jumping back to a tenere 700. Keep up the good work. Thanks
since I got my self a set of mx boots I started riding my t7 like my old 990adv, maybe the top heaviness made me worry more about my feet, not like 990 the weight felt very low down and I was fine with my forma adv.
Just remove the ABS brake lines , plug pump if can not remove completely , fit Custom Hel Performance brake lines. back to old school brakes. what i done to my custom 1290 Super Enduro No ABS/TCS all old school
Jaysus, Spend 20K 0n the standard bike, 4K on fixing the shite suspension, on top of the travel accessories - then it's a keeper? Why don't manufacturers set their bike up to work for two up with luggage so a buyer can work back from there? Not a keeper in my book. Find us a bike at a reasonable price, that is properly set up off the dealer floor please.
Brazil does not have one. I'd love to own one Much better (for my use) over Hondas 500x/AfricaTwin, Suzuki VStrom, Kawasaki 650, BMW 750/850 ou Tiger 900;
