Reviewing the 1995 Mr Olympia. This was a great show and a close contest but there can only ever be one winner. Who really deserved the Sandow, Yates or Levrone? Don't forget to follow me on Instagram: / tomn8er1
Hey guys, I apologize in advance because the audio's off by a second or two, don't have time to fix it as I am going away for the weekend. Shouldn't matter too much though. Also forgot to mention how much better Kevin's triceps look in the rear lat spread like dangggg son. Anyway, peace out homies!
Tomn8er Kevin was awesome in 92,94,97,2002! He should have won every one of these. He placed 4th in 97 and that is just a fucking joke. Kevin is my favorite. Kevin was better in 97 and 2002!
dorian had better conditioning. the best back in bodybuilding,evan much better than kevins. also better calves than kevin. kevin looked fantastic but dorian had the edge over kevin. and we all know that king dorian yates bought a new physique to bodybuilding. you can not knock dorian yates. he also mastered his diets,workouts etc with no help from coaches, no dietitions etc. spent hours reading about bodybuilding etc etc. no bodybuilder could ever match dorians condition. the only bodybuilder to have a similar physique was branch warren.....
When you really see it, Dorian just had that wtf factor that you need to be a winner. Every major winner of the Olympia has had some kind of wtf factor that just made them *stand out* among other competitors, and as long as they kept their size, conditioning and flow competitive with the others, they just pop in comparison to everyone else.
Yep... can get lost in analysing how folks trade blows in bodypart development, staying competitive and everyone wants to root for the underdog... Even in the "losing" poses Dorian was much bigger overall and several levels of conditioning higher, like Dorian created a conditioning gap that apparently was utterly otherworldly when viewed in person. I can't argue for Dorian in 97 based on what we have available to view, to me in the pics and vids conditioning isn't enough to make up for the flaws, but the story from people who were there in person was very different, a far less controversial show for those who were there, the Wtf factor overpowered his flaws and Nassers more streamlined and complete front poses
I went to that show, we were all the way in the back and you could see Dorians striations in his traps and back clear from the back of the audience. It was unreal. The only way to get a true sense of his mass and conditioning was to see live in person. He was one of those guys that wasn't photogenic. I actually thought he looked better and bigger in his off season no tan no oil pictures. Until I saw him in person.
Big B I've heard Dorian was the least impressive Mr O when it comes to pics but when u saw him live the difference was staggering. I envy you man wish I coulda seen him then. Maybe I'd be more of a fan then lol
@@Tomn8er You're not a fan of the Shadow? When he came in '93 and shocked the world? The mistery around him, the nickname and problably the most intens trainingstyle vid of any mr.O? Come on man, I understand not everyone being a fan of his physique, I do, but it's one of the best bodybuilding stories ever. Gotta love the dude.
I wish I could go back in time to see this show in person. Chris Aceto was there and he said Yates was so lean and dry that he looked like he had no skin.
i was at the 95 olympia and it wasnt even close. yes yates takes the side chest no question. kevin is great in the pose but yates is in way way better condition (not debatable) and his chest is thicker and harder (find the vid). kevins arms are have more volume, does not = better. yates had more peak (baseball biceps) vs kev and shawns football shaped (less peak). hands clasped mm kev is great but looks narrow compared to yates. some of you need to learn how bb is judged. its not about individual parts, its all about the complete pose. im a fan of kev so dont think im hating on him by any means.
@Nicholas Holland I don't think pictures can capture the degree of conditioning bodybuilders show. Even video doesn't do conditioning justice. I've seen live natural competitors that look more conditioned than pictures of enhanced pros. One needs to see these guys live to effectively judge them.
I give all the respect to Dorian because even with genetically short biceps, his grainy superior conditioning overshadowed everyone. He could have quit after the injury but decided to outperform everywhere else! That's what makes him my favorite champ of all time!
Yup. Dorian has been my idol since I was a kid just getting into bodybuilding when I was 13. When I first saw his black and white pictures from 93’, I became a fan instantly. Plus his HIT training was how I trained and was the only way I could train. I didn’t like high volume training and staying in the gym for 2 hours. It’s hard on the body and I’m paying for it now, but it’s the most effective training style. Dorians the man
Nice review. Massive fan of Levrone but you can't deny Yates. Just overall, more complete even though I much prefer Levrone's shape. IMO, Levrone and Ray were the best ever to never win the "O". And you could mention Flex Wheeler there too. Bring back the 90's. They piss all over the current crop.
Yates: the enigma of the Olympia. Judged bodypart by bodypart he can be criticized, but the totality of what he was (plus that conditioning) and it's hard to deny he deserved the wins.
First picture of Yates is immense ! He is so much quality mass and his calves are rarely seen in full body shots but are point winners for sure . Great champion
i like kevin but realistically he was 3rd and shawn was 2nd. nasser apologized to ray for getting third (ray being 4th) but whats he supposed to do, give ray his 3rd place check?
@@AiBot3777 Nasser got robbed a few times in placing, when he should of placed higher at least, shows how honest nasser is. brutal honesty. he also got his prize money taken from him once, while jay got caught for the same drug test and he thretened to sue the IFBB and he kept his money and placing. but Nasser didnt argue and they took his money and he lost his placing. thats unfair.
I’m from the uk and I tell you something I met Dorian and my local bodybuilding show before he became Mr Olympia.He truly deserved his six Mr Olympia wins mo matter what.At the end of the day Dorian changed the bodybuilding game more than anyone else.
Dorian had something that everybody miss , that confidant look in the face was like hypnotising judges . He never shows the effort of flexing his muscles ,, he had always a relax face , that helped him a lot to catch judges eyes ! unfortunatly kevin always acted like he was suffring from contracting his muscles , but perhaps it was better condition for Dorian that made him do less effort to pose !
HOSSAyNE Morocco He was insane . No one could ever beat Dorian I mean including all bb Up to 2019. I have not seen Heath , but seen all the rest . They were just a joke compared to Dorian .when Dorian went on stage in 1996 the fans went silent . He was so shredded ,I thought is not not humanly possible. The fans were numb by Yates . The commentator here , commenting on the video doesn't know what he is talking about . Yates was absolutely clear winner in all poses no exception. One can not judge based on picture material . One has to see at live and that is when the supremacy of Yates is seen . When the Audience saw Yates they were in a state of shock and so was I . He was nothing short of unique in every way , even the way he carried himself
Unfortunately the Olympia isn’t quite objective, and I could see why people say it’s “rigged”. They pick a “champion” and if he keeps growing or at least doesn’t get too much worse, he remains the champion. It’s a big part of the brand at this point, a precedent set by Arnold.
I swear the last back pic of Yates where he he stomps a leg back and it makes a huge thud and chops his arms to the side Is quite possibly the most powerful pose ever in all of bodybuilding history and maybe future.
What's pretty glaring in this video is that in every single shot Shawn Ray happens to be in, he's clearly the best. Not sure how he finished 4th. If anything, he probably deserved to win, just like he should have in 94.
I COMPLETELY AGREE. YATES DESERVES EVERYTHING HE HAS BECAUSE HE CAME IN BIG AND HARD EVERY YEAR. I APPRECIATE HIM NOW MORE THAN EVER BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT STATE OF UNCONDITIONED PRO BODYBUILDERS. GREAT VIDEO...
Yeah, I agree... but then look at 1:30, his wheels are on another level, he wins this pose, also 2:40 - he literally dwarfs Levrone, and is noticeably better than Dorian. Side chest at 5:10 - same story. When it comes to most muscular I would argue his crab pose is on par with Levrone - both are classic. I can understand why Dorian won, but Nasser was way better than Levrone that year IMO. But then, those contests are mainly about the back...
@@rockywaters9592 it's not photoshopped, it's the angle. Biceps? you can clearly see his torn left bicep and the right one doesn't look that big whatsoever. His calves and traps were exactly the way the are in that photo.
@@dj_m19 I still think it's shopped, I've seen this photo of Dorian many times and I think the calfs and the right side of his upper body has been stretched a bit, or they've shrunk his head a bit, either way I don't believe it's 100% real, especially the calfs.
@@rockywaters9592 I'd say angle and resolution, I don't know where the photo comes from but yeah, it could be stretched so the competitor appears bigger. I wouldn't say it's photoshopped though, because his calves and traps really did look like that. Same shape and size. Nasser had freaky calves full of oil and they still weren't as big and shapely as Dorian's.
I think in bb competitions mass and completeness and proportions should be more important than being conditioned, looking grainy and stuff. After all the sport is called bodyBUILDING. Yateses arms and chest are a Mr O Unworthy in my humble opinion.
2:15 Shawn Ray is the last bodybuilder in the open class to do a decent front double bicep vacuum pose. He is perfection, but he's giving away 60lbs to Yates. The judges didn't have the guts to give it to Shawn. It took until 2018 for them to finally say "let's give it to the guy who looks best. Not the guy who is the biggest."
These type vids can be taken with a grain of salt since we know most of the time real life vs pictures can be totally different! Levrone looked soft compared to Dorian, at least in the pics.
kevin never won olympia but his wild genetics in my opinion is what a man dreams if he had worked his legs and back more would have been the man of the 90s
dorian only wins 2 rear lat spread and back double bicep. Dorian has better lats, calves, forearms and conditioning. Levrone's conditioning isnt as good but has better chest, shoulders, arms, hamstrings and glutes, traps/upper back..... and he wins 5-2 in poses. Levrone is the uncrowned mr olympia 2-3 times and nassar should of won in 97. Dorian should only have been a 3-4 time mr.O
Revisiting these pics...HOW IN THE FUCK did Ray not win this? His conditioning smashes all of them with zero weak body parts! Seriously go back through this video or find the actual contest and if you don’t let your dislike for Ray get in the way it’s plain as day he should have won
Yeah he looked great no doubt. But I alrdy made a strong case for him winning in 94 and didn't wanna beat a dead horse lol, plus that would be a little disrespectful to runner-up Levrone here
8:16 Levrone with the insane trap insertions. Dorian looks horrible and blocky. Hes back might be dense but its ugly af anyway. This is bodybuilding not massbuilding. Urgh.
Yates obviously a legend but a Mr. Olympia shouldn't look that bad in a most muscular pose. I know he was dominant in a lot of mandatory poses but Geez if his standing relaxed is that bad and if the most muscular is the last pose the judges make them hit and he looks really really really bad I don't get how they place him first.
Again, you just have to hold the 1990s as the the most incredible decade for body building. Yates set it all going and the rest went with him big time. Absolutely amazing physiques in number. It’s right to say that Levrone and Ray had the most symmetrical and body beautiful physiques and it’s a shame they wearing rewarded for it (Wheeler included). But despite that, every time you look at Yates body it just looks like he has been chiselled out of granite by a comic book artist. You can’t take your eyes off him.
Bruh, Kevin was NOT better than Dorian, even with Dorian hurting his bicep. Dorian is thicker, denser, more conditioned than anyone, and Kevin’s legs are NOT touching Dorian’s legs. Dorian had more separation and thickness in the quads and hams, and obviously I don’t need to talk about Dorian’s calves. One can argue Kevin had better arms and shoulders, but Dorian has the best side tricep poses. Dorians horseshoe in his tri’s are just insane. I’ve always been a Kevin fan, but Dorian has always been my favorite bodybuilder: and besides that, prime dorian was just untouchable. Not to mention people talk about Dorian’s injured bicep, and how Kevin should have simply won bc of that ( which is just absolutely absurd), but Kevin tore his left pec, which is why his chest looked a little deformed. You can hide a torn bicep way easier than a torn pec. Nah, Kevin does not beat Dorian period
Dude that was the most biased assessment ever. Other than the back shots Dorian looks like a Chevelle SS that got ran over by a truck versus Levrone looking like a brand new Camaro.
In the end of the day Shawn Ray should have won this competiton (and not only this one). Perfect aesthetics, conditioning, mass-symmetry ballance. Literally no flaw whatsoever.
fdb kevin fl dorian sc kevin st kevin bdb dorian bl dorian abs kevin mm kevin ye i think that kevin should won atleast 1 olympia this was good chance for kevin cuz his back was best in 95.
what I love about the 90s is they had that size, detail and conditioning while still maintaining a level of aestheticism. like people rave on about comparing the golden era, with todays bubble guts but thats a stupid comparison because golden era had WAAY less muscle. 90s bodybuilders still had a lot of size not as much though, while mainting an appealing look.
i mean lets be real some of the smaller golden age guys like frank zane are in a similar tier to an advanced fitness model/ mens physique guy in terms of muscular development.
Whats the heavy dislike ratio for? Shawn should have won in my opinion. He has the perfect combination of completeness, aesthetics,posing and conditioning
That dislikes pour in any time it's a close contest, no matter who I choose. Saw the same thing for 94. In this one you have two of the most beloved bodybuilders of all time in Levrone and Yates, so I suspect it would've been just as ugly if not worse if I gave it to Levrone lol
Of course Levrone should have won. Levrone truly is a uncrowned Mr Olympia. They must have had something against him. I mean come on, anyone with two eyes in the front of their face can see that Levrone judy blows Dorian away. Its night and day difference really, this should not even be a topic. Come in with the largest back, and be the most shredded one, and youll win the Mr Olympia. Look like shit in other aspects? Does not matter. Youll win anyway. Proportions are since long thrown out the window.
Yeah the judges don't care for aesthetics that's for sure but to be fair to Dorian he was arguably at his all time best this year - and it's only arguably because of the torn bicep. Personally speaking I prefer a physique like Levrone's 100% though as well
Kevin is such a waister potential, he had much better genetic potential than Dorian. But Dorian was in his gym all year while Kevin was singing in his studio. Yates wins this show, not even close. Kevin had traps just as good as Dorian, but his lats did not exist from the back. He probably didn't even know how to train them. He was also much softer, and this was one of the better conditionings he brought to the stage. He was better from the front, but from the side? Common, Dorian had 1 extra layer of thickness on him. Even his delts looked bigger and the triceps looked just as impressive. I disagree with the side chest, DOrian's bad muscle bellies don't fill the pose, but he wins the side triceps (barely) and easily wins the abs and thighs. Much crisper abs, boing 747 lats and great cuts on legs. In this pose, his detail beats the Levrone's roundness. Kevin only had a smaller waist, which doesn't do it for me. He probably didn't even train his abs and barely trained his legs
Srbenda126 Your right. Kevin was a genetic freak and was a part time, lazy bodybuilder. He was in the gym half the year like Flex and no matter how genetically blessed you are, you can be out worked! It’s a shame Kevin and Flex never reached their full potential where as Dorian squeezed out every inch of potential from his physique. That’s what being a champion is all about!
Ray looked good that year too. Kevin is my favorite bodybuilder of all time. But he just didn’t have the back and legs that DY had. Even with the biceps starting to deteriorate that year Dorian Yates back and hardness is hard to beat.
Dorian’s conditioning was always on point. He outworked everyone & that’s how he won. If we judged mainly on pretty physiques, Melvin Anthony, Lionel Beyeke, Cedric McMillan & Patrick Moore would have higher placings. Dorian’s conditioning was just on another level from the rest. I don’t even see the comparison of Levrone & Dorian in 95. It’s an easy 1-2 for me.
Laszlo Gq it's not all about size, sure, but it's also not ALL about definition, if it was all about size, Nassar would win. If it was all about definition, Shawn would win. But that's not how it's judged. I agree with the judges without any argument in this competition.
I feel like it's fairly well established that Kevin owns side chest and Yates owns side triceps but you went the other way in your analysis which was supported OK but not good enough IMO. Although, Yates got destroyed in the hands clasped and Kevin did look damn good in the front lat spread. Thanks for the vid
