Some tips that he didn't say in the video: 1. You can also use self clones to attack someone in ts, it's not only with victim clone 2. If you go into dimension hop and put self clones down in there, when you get out you can press x (clone swap) to swap to where you put the self clones in dimension hop and still teleport to that spot (great for running away and confusing people) 3. You can use zoom punch with hamon to get a free barrage
@@KnightK51 that would be useless, since to actually use them to ascend you need to get them along the quest, which involves killing dio/jotaro to complete
As a retired D4C:LT main, I can confidently say that clone spam is less efficient than planning and strategizing your moves. I usually only use victim clone as a "get off me" tool or as a stalling move while I use self clones as a distraction for the opponent, making an opening for attacks. Using dimension hop can bait the person into posing, giving you a surprise pocket revolver as soon as you force yourself out *IF* you can predict where they will be. 2.4 per hit on the barrage with hamon paired with the Love Train is very useful for damage, and they just kind of die if they barrage back. I had tested a full hamon barrage with a tw user, and after we had both barraged he had about 1/4 of his health left (max vitality, specless). D4C:LT is dumb because it's dumb in the manga.
AT first I thought I accidently pressed it or it was a glitch or some, cause I found out in a 1v1, so I used it again to figure out what happened. Turns out, d4c was blowing up my smoke and I couldn't use it that fight due to the smoke being spawned right beside me.
Yeah, my first ever loss to a vamp d4c as spin ta4 (really, first loss to a d4clt ever as tusk) He kept spamming dimension hop and then killing clones for blood, so he cheesed his way to victory :sadge:
here's a tip for d4c: if you're actually able to use dimension hop, you can spawn self-clones somewhere and once the dimension hop is over, you can press x to use swap clones and tp to where you put the clones.
That's because his opinion is seen as fact because he gives more thought and detail into his opinion then most people that play this game. So when their opinion gets counterargued, they feel personally attacked because they put no thought into it.
What do you get when you give a stand 3 highly spammable op moves that do insane dmg and have like no cd, a move that puts you in your own dimension which is amazing for stalling, a move that makes you completely invincible and reflects all attacks, AND give it the highest destructive power in the game? You get a fair and balanced stand.
@@advjijithomaspambackal2112 the problem is that he can just put more clones after and also he can pose while you are busy with clones and this will just stall until you die
top 5 things that strike fear into the hearts of even the most brave and powerful men 5. terrorism 4. the end of the world 3. bankruptcy 2. murder 1. D4C LT Hamon
something interesting here: if you summon clones when someone is in Time skip/time stop, they will follow whoever is manipulating time. if its a TS stand, the clones will still go after the time stopper. If it's King Crimson, the clones will follow the user, so you know where they are.
@@willno8888 my friend used to have KCR and I still have D4CLT on my second slot, we always 1v1 eachother, and the only way he discovered to damage me in love train was by using epitaph on me or my clones, whenever Raging Demon activated (with my love train on and still running) I took damage and he didn’t.
i've been a d4c main for a while now and i love how simple it is, specially playing it in teams, learning stupid things like being able to pocket dimension someone while he's posing and letting them heal to full or how to fight tusks, it's been rough not being able to use lt but the 2.4 barrage is so useful in so many situations, you can just go barrage first get counter barraged and then pop love train when their barrage finishes so you win the trade anyways
@@robertogribas6230 it's hard to spam clones when a mih just rushes you tho, I don't know how to deal with mihs so I just block and dodge what I can and try to land a hit of some kind, more often I try to land a close range attack or my gun, I have a hard time aiming my mouse at the mih for explosive clones, and they just kill my clones immediately with their heaven's judgement, except my explosive clone can ragdoll them due to contact explosion.
@@gastonfourt5363 I'm a Mih user and fighting against D4C is actually almost impossible for me, i use the knife to kill the explosive clones and when i try to double accel the clones reach me and starts hitting me and somehow when they reach me, the D4C user spawns another clone
Eclipse: “While you are in your dimensión you can’t pose but your opponent can, so your opponent can heal but you can’t” Me, a D4C:LT+ Vampirism main: “Foolish mortals, D4C:LT+ Vampirism is underrated”
The thing about self clones is that it can actually help you avoid damage in TS, I’ve seen stuff like when a D4C is about to send clones in during the windup for TS, and the clones that spawn after time is stopped are not affected, and will keep attacking
Pro tip you can extend lt by a few more seconds by ending it ur self with either posing or charging hamon It also reflects bd and does more damage than sptw doing like 0.8 or 0.7 Also tusk doesn’t counter d4c only lt
It's actually a rather odd interaction where reflected damage is based on the LT's destructive power, rather than the enemy's. That's why the reflected barrage at the start did so much DMG.
Some other things to note about love train is that time stop cancels love train along with TA4 beatdown. if a different beatdown is used against love train will be reflected back to them or another person so d4c love train can use a beatdown under the right circumstances. At the beginning there is a 2-3 second window of time when love train can't be cancelled. It you use dimension hop with love train it becomes unconscionable except for gold experience requiem, the world, the world au, star platinum, star platinum the world, and the world over heaven, and tusk act 4.
off topic thing but I got a good way of farming dio oh with d4c lt (kinda recommend getting lt maxed out) 1. have a friend or someone in the server with twoh to help you with this 2. have your twoh friend reality overwrite punch him 3. create an explosive clone of dio to lure him to you instead of your friend 4. activate love train once dio teleports to you and don’t attack 5. once your lt runs out get your twoh friend to lure him away and fight for a bit while u wait for cooldown to be over 6. Rinse repeat, you get final kill cause when you use your first lt if dio oh does not bug out and not attack then you can shred half of his health with lt (if dio oh uses ts on you just get your twoh friend to throw knifes or use steel ball throw if he has spin to lure dio away)
The final node of love train doesn't help too much, I find. This lets you get more hp and speed. Also quick draw is not required for the revolver to be good, so quick draw can be used to dump points when you have the rest of your abilities fitted out
@@cXrr404 By juking you mean running away? Counters are a meh response, since not all stands have them, but still valid if. I wanna know how to pick off bomb clones and kill them without much problem though.
About the counters on clones. If you use dimensional self clones, the counter hits the clones themselves. But if you use the explosive clone and they counter it, YOU will get hit.
4:00 the reason they did this is because originally (its a balance) you could LT at the end of someones TS and all the damage done would be reflected back
6:32 actualy whe they counter it does affect u but explosive clones usuali punch once or twoce before exploding so when they counter they still lost 30 hp and got trown back and by the time they stand up u will be able to move again
Hey I just wanted to share a little strategy I have for D4C! (I do not have love train yet just d4c) So when you pull out your victim clone or your self clone, a way to get the most dmg possible for these clones is to use the pocket revolver. If you hit your opponent as they are running or trying to attack these clones, you will stun them with the revolver allowing any of the clones to come and hit the other person
Another thing which might be useful for love train(applies for Your own shadow as well) effects and Beatdown CAN be turned against opponents. Example: SPTW uses funny Beatdown while love train active. D4C does a Beatdown to the opponent(no dmg change) Another thing. Vamp uses freeze, the vamp will get frozen because of love train/your own shadow.
0:10 Eclipse: “Why did you make me do that!? Your out here barraging back at my love train while everyone else is smart enough to not do that! Think [opponent name]!”
9:33 the m1s and m2s from clones count as attacks from clones while the explosipn count as an attack from you so if they counter the m1, they just counter the clone instead of u
This is really off topic but Can I get unbanned if speartaro said he can't help me and nobody responds to my appeal and I have proof. I got falsely banned for exploiting.
Dimensional hop can be used in a unique way and I've seen people done it. It completely shreds. 1. Make sure you're vamp 2. Make sure your self clones are off cooldown 3. Go into your dimension 4. Summon your clones 5. Kill your clones 6. Free blood refill Yeah it wastes your clones but the cooldown ain't that long. You could stall with the victim clone or revolver
another fact abut lt if a kc/kcr uses time erase, u can hop into to ur dimension and when they come out you can see them so you can get the jump on them when you come out this may apply to a few other moves idk i never tested any others also im pretty sure that you can heal teammates in ur dimension if they pose then you take them in
I wanna mention something eclipse forgot to mention if you time LT just at the right time when they ts you can't get hurt and if they attacked you during the ts they will be the ones taking the damage
Tip if you want to barrage without Love Train or barrage first is use ur own clone and if they barrage ur clone, u barrage them back. If u clone swap is little bit hard when u want to barrage back. So... Yeah, that the tip.
Love train can still easily counter ts if you use the self clones or explosive clones the moment they time stop, and for some reason they can move through the time stop
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