You will have Hand Strain exspecially at the Beginning when you lern Dante . But once you know how everything works , you wont strain your hands so much anymore . I Rarely get Hand Strain / Pain these Days , because everything became Natural / Automatic over time .
I never really understood where the hand pain thing came from. Most of the time hand pain like this comes from having underdeveloped muscles, and if you’ve played video games for a decent amount of time you should have no problems with that in DMC. DMC doesn’t require any inputs that you wouldn’t find in most other games it’s just faster, and you shouldn’t experience much pain when trying to build that speed up unless you’re playing for way too long without taking any rests which will always cause pain no matter what you’re doing. I have never experienced any hand pain playing a video game, ever (I actually gave myself friction burns playing fighting games with a 360 controller one time but I don’t know if that really counts). But what do I know, I’m a male gymnast my hands were already destroyed.
@@assassinonprozac DMC played with High Level skillset requires very tight and specific input orders, which is heavy demanding on fingers. I know a few High Level players that performs greatly and feels like it's a machine when they play (by seeing the precision in their old videos), but they have injured hands. NOT ALL, but a considerable amount (I'm not gonna mention names, of course). Anyway, I believe it is a case of underdeveloped muscles indeed. Most likely people who play games for several hours in a row, but do little to none physical exercises, stretches and etc. So it's only natural that outperforming what their physique can stand will create problems in the long run (some are playing since the mid 00's, so this "long term" already arrived).
@@DanteBlack its very demanding at the beginnign because you have to built up " muscle memorys , and Relaxed Inputs . There Might be a few People who havent had Pain while lerning Dante but Most Players Propably Did . But it should go away once your Muscle Memory is build . You get at a Point where you can mentally watch your fingers while watching at the screen and know exactly what your Pressing .
great stuff man 👏 👏👏 a gem of a combo, great use of star rave (I still trying to learn it btw) and the royal flying was really well executed. I am really impressed, post more please
dmc4 dante's skill ceiling is so high but it's so hard to get there. so many complex inputs... i basically just play dmc4 dante like dmc1 without Air Raid
I actually find Dante to be the second strongest character, behind Vergil obviously (Just Judgement Cuts destroy everything, you can speed run Bloody Place in 20 minutes with only Just Judgement Cuts). The only thing Dante struggles with in my opinion is dps in which Nero and Lady have him beat, he’s really saved by the fact that DMC4 enemies have no health there (at least he has pretty good raw damage, it’s just very slow). However, if you actually know how to play him I find he is incredibly strong, only beaten by Vergil because of Just Judgment Cuts. I think the idea that DMC4 Dante is weak and incomplete mainly comes from ignorance, which is understandable, if you’re not pretty good at the game and spend a long time experimenting DMC4 Dante’s kit feels extremely scatterbrained and half-baked because you need to be a damn near top level player to actually make sense of it. Trickster is a good example, if you can’t wave dash and Guard Fly Trickster feels like shit but if you can it’s by far the best iteration of the style. Another good example is Frosts, I’ve heard countless people say these enemies are a nightmare as Dante but Round Trip absolutely massacres them, (fun fact by the way, loading up a mission as Vergil before playing as Dante basically removes the charge time for Round Trip, I swear I’m not making this up) Prop Shredder also does wonders against them, but if you don’t know that they’re a very rough enemy. Charge Shots are another good example, I think most people just completely ignore Charge Shots in DMC when playing Dante (I know I do) because they’ve just never been necessary but they’re extremely useful in DMC4, they make some enemies so much easier to deal with, I hear people complain about Chimeras all the time but Dante can just turn them into regular old Scarecrows or Blades in a matter of seconds with Charge Shots, same thing with Cutlasses, makes them a joke (don’t get me wrong Chimera Blades are still annoying but that’s because Blades in general are annoying, the Chimera part doesn’t add much). Another good example (and a very obvious one) is Blitz, Omen and the Royal Guard trick (attack him and then guard when your attack hits) make him a complete joke but everyone seems to hate this enemy despite how easy he is. DMC4 Dante forces you to experiment and use moves that you just never even think about normally let alone use which I think is why most people have trouble with him and where the idea that “Enemies were designed for Nero and Dante can’t deal with them because of it” came from (by the way that is completely unfounded, I actually think it’s the other way around if anything). Ironic that a character in a series heralded for encouraging variety in its combat through the style meter is hated because people didn’t experiment enough (which actually isn’t uncommon, I’ve yet to encounter an action game that doesn’t have at least have a minority people with similar ideas). And including his insane skill ceiling and combo potential I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say DMC4 Dante is the most complete action game character of all time. I can go into more detail if somebody asks but I think this is already too long.
@@assassinonprozac people find 4 Dante weak because A. styles feeling nerfed compared to 3 like royal guard taking too long to charge where as in 3 you just block like twice for results, plus the fact that enemies have less telegraphing then 3 making it technically harder even if you have more frames for royal release then in 3) B. his only really high damage stuff coming from Distortion where as in 3 you can just DTE and 5 has SDT and 1 just has a really broken DT. C. DMC4s roster of gimmick enemies are easier to trivialize with just buster especially basilisks. People just don’t like gimmick enemies in general even if they aren’t that bad it’s why everyone throws a hissy fit over fury and Judecca D. Less weapons, to most fans Lucifer is one of the hardest weapons in the franchise and Gil is just another mandatory punch weapon so most are just gonna stick to that and rebellion and that’s it. E. To most fans it feels like in order to effectively play 4 Dante in any satisfying way otherwise he feels awkward you basically have to know all the weird may or may not be intentional tech and all the weapons where as in 5 you can just pop quad S do a combo and get an instant dopamine hit lol. The feed back and way he feels probably doesn’t help either. The sound design for E&I are pathetic in 4 for example and Gil feeling more clunky then basically every other fist weapon in the series even if you can do crazy stuff like distortion
@@Zain-IX i showed a dmc5 BP scan of the earlier dmc5 stages (in the our combat world discord). had to ask, i wanted the desert skin since it looks like the desert stage from Mortal Kombat 3. thanks zain!
Yes, it is undoubtedly one of the main components of the game in the air, but you just can't perform this juggle without shooting every time after hit, you use this crutch, justifying it as an important mechanic.@@Zain-IX
I’m never going to get this good, not because I can’t or don’t have the time, it’s because the enemy design in this game is stinky doodoo trash lol. None of the enemies are as good as the 7 hells in dmc3 and in dmc5 every enemy is good. This game has by far the most annoying enemies for me, who thought that enemies having 0 telegraphs was a good idea? Dmc4 for me has become a spectator sport just to watch players pull off crazy stuff. Also I wish they kept some of the dmc3 weapons because I feel they were a lot more fleshed out. Also Gilgamesh is imo the worst punch/kick weapon in the series the weapon feels so weak maybe because of sound design. Also Dante is very unbalanced you either one shot every with DRI and omen or have to spend dozens of hours learning glitches and exploits to juggle enemies infinitely which I’m never going to do, so for me Dante dmc4 will forever be unsatisfying for me to play.
I get your Point the Game is Very Old after All . For me the Fun is the Juggling and that Everything flows together once your Lerned Dante . He has no Wasted " Moves if you will and Everything he can do has its Place . Enemys are somewhat telegraphed but you have to lern their attack Patterns to be able to React . But for me that dosnt Matter to Much .
@@Zain-IX juggling enemies is what I find most fun in these games as well it’s just that I don’t have the motivation to learn to do so with any character in dmc4 because I don’t like the enemy design. If I had a pc I’d probably change the sound design with a mod because it just doesn’t give me that dopamine hit that dmc3/5 does.
