The nunchucks are the greatest weapon of all time, being able to knock out two people with one strike is incredible! Hit the opponent and knock them out, and then it hits you and knocks you out!
The best argument I've ever heard in the nunchuck's favor, is by learning to use them effectively, you can basically be nigh unstoppable with anything else. Even their enthusiasts admit their shit.
@@charlesjones1535 Nah, luckily for me it is a small target so minimal damage was done. Besides, not like those bits are ever going to be used so not a big loss even if it was a solid hit.
Missing the argument about the greatest variations of nunchucks: the gunchucks. Two long pistols tied together gives you twice the ammo and improved melee range over the standard firearm. A clear winner.
I'm laughing so hard that Shad's channel has recently proposed that A) Nunchaku are a terrible weapon, and B) Barbarian bikini armor can work, and C) Boob plate is viable. I agree with all of these takes, btw, but seeing all of the controversy they've caused is such entertainment gold, I love it so much.
When I was a kid, I threw my nunchucks into the air in my back yard where they got stuck on a power line. As far as I know they are still there to this day. That's a lot harder to do with a straight stick.
To be honest, that bit about how nunchucks are illegal in many countries despite the legal stick being deadlier just made me think of a hilarious comedy where the public finally recognized how deadly sticks can be and made every stick based thing, including brooms and shovels, illegal. And then there’s a black market for brooms and shovels, “Hey, wanna buy a broom?” XD
There are a lot of dumb laws regarding weapons, dictated solely by Hollywood movies and what legislators deem scary. It's sad when you realize the same people create laws for other (more important) things, but probably know just as about them as they know about weapons. In the world of guns you have: - suppressor bans -hallow point ammo bans -the entire SBR thing in US -magazine size restrictions All equally brainless. I would even put bans on full auto firearms out there. Full auto is possibly the most over rated thing that has ever been over rated...
I imagine a man who has dedicated his life to nunchucks. He is resplendent in gleaming robes and sandals. He strides across the battlefield spinning his sticks of death all around him. This is what he has trained decades for. This is his moment, where he shows the world the power of discipline and nunchucks. Then a man with a few month's worth of training with a spear, impales him through the gut, and he dies miserably.
If you somehow made a nunchucks master fight a neandertal (from the past) that just learned how to make a spear with a stick and rocks I would still bet on the cave man with the pointy stick.
Well actually when Bruce Lee first experience with the Nunchucku, he thought they were utterly garbage. He liked using them in his movies because they were flashy.
At first, like most of martial weapon, they were agriculture tools, so as a weapon it needs to modified a little if used for battlefield. But, nunchucks... Is a special case of flashy weapon that has high chance to hurt yourself than the opponent
@@knoven- I heard they come from okinawa, Japan, as a tool used for threshing rice or soybeans. And because of weapon banning in that era, these tools is being made a weapon.
An undeniable advantage of the nunchucks is that if your opponent somehow takes away your weapon, they will be unable to use it against you without hurting themselves
How to make a stick more concealable: Shad: Make it shorter so it can fit in your clothes. Me: Make it longer because "You would not part an old man from his walking stick"
Imagine being a staple of martial arts pop culture, requiring dedicated training to use effectively in real life, and yet you're outclassed by humanity's first weapon
@@zigzag913 less force, less control, less effectiveness, more danger. To wield a weapon it must become an extension of the body. The fist is part of your body, you can wield it naturally. The nunchaku's are unpredictable in most situations, thus not an extention of the body that can be controlled completely, thus it's shit and the range won't do you any good against someone charging at you
Back when I was studying jujutsu, my master used to talk about different weapons and their history. Granted he wasn't the actual master of all weapons he used to tell us about, but nonetheless I still hold his opinion in high regard. Regarding nunchucks, they were mainly used as an opponent's weapon grip (chain instead of a rope) and counter-attacking. In the opinion of my master they were successful due to the novelty, as fighting a sword apprentice with a long stick (which is basically a sword) would give your opponent more trained experience on how to deal with you, so you did have better chances to throw your opponent attention away with some flashy moves and then sudden counter. This weapon "survived" due to its bizarre and flashy moves, but it's hardly as effective nowadays as everyone and their grandma knows about them.
Ah, so similar to the creation of the jo, where some important Japanese figure sawed his bo in half after he got defeated, and created the jo, trained with it, and then did a rematch that he won because he just invented the weapon and the opponent (another important Japanese figure) lost that time because he hadn’t learned how to fight against it
I don't know where your master learned that, but it couldn't be farther from the truth. Traditional okinawan Nunchaku were wooden, octagonal, and connected by a very short length of horse hair. They aren't supposed to be flashy either. You are supposed to hold them at the bottom to generate power, not show off
I can almost picture ol' Teddy saying "Speak softly and carry 2 small sticks bound together with a bit of rope" But it just does not have the same ring to it.
Literally two days ago I saw a boy hit himself on the head while he was practicing nunchucks. I got an ice pack for him, and his mom was like, "Did he hit himself again?"
An armored knight astride a gleaming green Deere, his trusty steed belching hellfire and brimstone, a signifier of the unholy pact with the mysterious figure that materialized in a blaze of St Elmo's fire during the hailstorm of 1561. The glistening teeth reaching forth from monsterous maw of the metallic beast yearning to devour the peasantry of the forgein host. Reaping the fields of men with the efficiency of a team of seasoned farmers harvesting the summer crop of wheat.
Weren't caterpillar tracks first used on tractors before being used on tanks? Didn't farmers introduce the idea of crop dusting, before the US used agent orange? Fish farmers used nets before navies introduced torpedo nets. The military applications for farming technology are virtually limitless.
On the note about Self Defense: My old karate instructor started and ended every class with 10 minutes of running. He would always say that in a fight, the bad guy's goal is to harm you. If they can't harm you, you win. Conversely, if you don't want to run away because your goal is to harm them, *you are the bad guy*.
Lol, i have a little more faith in a good offense being a good defense as well I mean you don't want to hurt them but if you have no choice the best thing you can do is disable their ability to harm you Which can be done in a multitude of ways Just sayin' cause not everyone is ever gonna be better at running than their assailant
@@spartanwar1185 Getting away should still be your first priority. That's what some people don't seem to get--typically people who haven't actually been through shit. And on a purely tactical level, escape is always less risky when it's possible. You typically know your own capabilities, but you can never fully know your opponent's. You know how fast you can run, how well you can maneuver around obstacles, etc. You don't know if whatever you do to stop whoever is coming at you with a knife will actually disable them--they could have other concealed weapons if you disarm them, they might have an abnormally high pain tolerance, they might be stronger than they look, there might be other assailants you haven't noticed yet, etc. "Offense" should only be considered when escape isn't possible. And if you're inclined to think otherwise is sometimes the case, that fraction of a second as you make that decision could be the difference between a knife being 30+ feet away or in your gut.
@@spartanwar1185 Offense is almost never the best defense in a close quarters scrap. A fight is most likely to end up with both parties injured because, in practice, injuring somebody is a lot easier than incapacitating them and you better believe that an angry or desperate opponent will gladly settle for the former. Same thing's doubly true if there's a weapon involved but don't think that somebody's bare hands can't make you lose an eye or an ear, even when blindly flailing. Seriously, if you prioritize avoiding getting hurt yourself over hurting your opponent - as you should - you best just leg it. You can zig-zag, you can toss objects behind you, you can hide, you are a lot more likely to find immediate help, and if statistics are to be believed, most attackers won't even pursue you in the first place.
Good luck going after a ninja in feudal Japan. He may only have nunchucks. But that doesn't really help you since you have no fucking clue where he is.
I remember a Worlds Deadliest Warrior episode back in the day, Yakuza vs Mafia. Where the yakuza team demonstrated the power of nun-chucks on a jell target. the Mafia then walked up after their demo and struck the target with far more power and the just walked up to the yakuza and dropped the bat at their feet. didn't even have to say anything.
Didn't it also take the yakuza guy a couple of whacks to break the skull? Mafia guy just needed to swing the bat once and caused far more damage. Though, to be fair, the mafia guy was likely a good 30 lb. heavier than the yakuza guy.
I mean the only argument I've seen in favor of numchucks as of now is "they can do damage" .... A rock can do damage, but it doesn't take years of training to throw one
@@christopherjones8448 look at this idiot. Using a simple weapon rather than a weapon that is suboptimal. Let me guess you also use a noob tube. I jest of course.
@@christopherjones8448 just pick up a pistol use internet to learn where the safety is and you good to go for a few bullets than you gotta go back to the internet to look how to reload if you got extra mags
This reminds me of the time London from Sweet life on Deck was using a knife to make a sharp stick to stab people with and someone said, why don't you just use the knife?
LOL! Back in the '80's I read that some Japanese companies provided mannequins for employees to beat with bats in the rec room. Leave that stranger in his back yard, and to his own devices.
I once hit myself in the face with a rock. I was tossing rocks into a lake underhanded, and wanted to throw one really far, so I swung my arm really hard... and failed to release the rock until my hand was pointing at my face. -_- I am so lucky I didn't actually injure myself! :P
@@wezul If it makes you feel any better; the reason we know early humans and Neanderthals were righthanded through archeological evidence; is from them accidentally hitting themselves with stone tools resulting in scratches on their teeth consistently on the side they use their tools.
I grew up in the nunchuck loving 80s and recall the moment when I learned they were garbage. My friend's brother and dad were really into marital arts. I noticed they had nunchucks and was impressed then they told me how worthless they were. Fun to use and maybe good for coordination training, but, as Shad pointed out, likely to hit the user.
In the commentary of the episode "Sokka's Master" of Avatar: The Last Airbender, the martial arts consultant, Sifu Kisu, was a guest with one of the creators (I think it was Michael D. Martino, I can't remember). They told a story about the creators own martial arts training, where Kisu saw that Michael was not paying attention enough, so he gave him nunchucks (he called it a two-sectioned staff). When he saw that Michael was immediately happy, he told him "Don't get the wrong idea. I'm not giving you these because I think you're skilled, it's because you need to learn to concentrate."
Shad's laying down some truth around 21:00 in. My very first karate instructor told us that our best weapon in a real fight is our legs, which we should use to run away as fast as we possibly can. As a result of following this advice, I remain undefeated in street fights to this day.
Nunchackus be like : When a Jrpg blacksmith breakes your Stick +3 while upgrading it, and has to repair it really fast so you wont ask for refound. -Well it may have less damage, but it is flashy and it also can strike additional target -Additional target? -Yea mostly the user
Wikipedia says everything about this: _"The exact origin of nunchaku is unclear: allegedly adapted by Okinawan farmers from a non-weapon rice-flail implement for threshing rice. It was not a historically popular weapon because it was ineffective against the most widely used weapons of that time such as samurai swords and naginata, and few historical techniques for its use still survive."_ If farmers used this tool as a weapon, most probably they did it because they had nothing else at hand.
Several classes of people were prohibited from owning weapons at all, so this would have been "all they had at hand" while severely oppressed by the more privileged classes (if I'm remembering correct). Also mostly a surprise attack weapon.
Yeah these videos seem to bait views by acting like that isn't a factor, only to then pull it in as if it's an ace up his sleeve 35 minutes in... Seems very disingenuous to say all this about something that was obviously made by people who did not have access to swords, or couldn't get away with walking around armed with swords and spears in their day-to-day life. Like obviously a trained samurai with a sword or spear (armored or not) would kill someone wielding nunchuks.. but saying that is like saying someone with a gun and lots of ammo at 100m would win against someone with a sword.. you'd be comparing things of different technological plateaus.. when you're comparing wooden weapons with forged and casted ones, or hand-to-hand weapons with gunpowder weapons, all you're doing is making a very irrelevant and obvious observation.
Maybe talk about how chain mace/flail is just as bad because the spiky ball can bounce back to embed itself on your hand? I notice Shad didn't really show good techniques. Maybe someone can show how to swing properly so that even if the swing got blocked, it wouldn't bounce back? Of course, a garrote is an absolutely terrible weapon. It has no reach, no blade, no pointy, no whacky.
@@simpletongeek The garrote isn't so much a weapon as it is a tool intended for assassination. Sure, it's not good in a fight, but if you manage to sneak up on someone, they barely stand a chance.
@@simpletongeek I mean...shad did mention them in the last video and has a whole video dedicated to why he thinks they are not good. And even if they are not good they are less not good as the chain is shorter so you are less likely to hit yourself (as mentioned last video) and even with them being bad that doesn't stop nunchucks being rubbish so this comment is a little irrelevant
As a teen, I spent 2 weeks crafting, staining, and polishing nunchucks out of the core of an aged oak tree. 2 minutes in to spinning them, I hit myself in the wedding vegetables so hard that I was kneeling on the ground for minutes -- and I could never pick them up again without my stomach turning over in fear.
Well, on the other hand you could train with a sword and cut off something...:) Nunchucks are WEAPONS and training with them is dangerous like with all other weapons. That's why there are training ones. Try toTtain with someone with sticks. And say goodbye to your writing skills...:)
I think that video games and pop culture can make nunchucks look much more usable because e.g. in a video game, weapons don't BOUNCE. They always animate in a perfect arc and this makes especially nunchucks look UNSTOPPABLE. Doesn't work that way in reality of course haha
Isaac Arthur: The first rule of warfare is to never use a weapon that poses as much a danger to your side as the enemy. Isaac Arthur: The first rule of warfare is to not die, that's the other guy's job.
@@HellecticMojo Nope, not at all. When just looking at them, a sword is obviously more dangerous, but does that mean dangerous to the user as well? Not necessarily. If you even have a vague idea of how to use a sword you will probably have a better chance of not hitting yourself than an amateur in nunchucks, and that scales to a master in nunchucks and an amateur with a sword.
Yeah, the "neighbours perspective" is always funny to me considering all the youtubers I love. XD Scotty Kilmers car channel for an other example... He's quite excentric and... well... LOUD!!! He pretty much yells all the time. XD
@@BOBimusRex uhhh, you good? if you're getting this confused with machiavelli's The Prince, it was mainly sarcasm. I don't see what Sun Tzu did to warrant "writing the book on how to be the worst possible person"
@@imawaffle148 His "The Art of War" is a guide book for all the slimiest underhanded, messed up strategies. I think the only reason people reference him and not Hitler is because he's an asian historical figure, so that makes it ok. But it doesn't make it ok. He was one of the world's largest POS and wrote a book to inform others how to be just like him.
@@BOBimusRex Listen, I will gladly discuss Sun Tzu with you, but comparing him to hitler is insane. hitler was a radical who massacred millions; sun tzu only makes use of deception and traps to minimize casualties. furthermore, sun tzu isn't refrenced because he's asian, he's refrenced because his book, while being ancient, still remains relevant to this day. and if you can find any evidence for him having strategies more immoral than gassing minorities in labor camps, I would change my mind.
I would love to see a discussion of "farm implements and tools that are better than nunchucks." Like, a trowel: concealable, and stabby. A hammer: small but also heavy for blunt impact. A rake: not super conspicuous, and it's like a stick with stabby bits on one end. I'd love to hear Shad talk about creative ways to use common objects that would be better for ninjas to pick up from their farm tools.
All the Okinawan weapons were adapted from farm tools for the same reason, and any of the others are better. Bo staff- Almighty stick. Tonfa- Whacking stick with extra options. Tekku- Loaded fist weapon/knuckles. Kama- Hand scythe, bladed. One exception to the farming tool thing was not so much peasant but police use, but the Sai. Tekku would be the overall most concealable and efficient and historically it was just a horseshoe. Nunchuks were an emphasis-on-improvised weapon for their time and only exist today in tradition.
Can you imagine how great it would be to be Shad's neighbor? Just hanging out, having a quiet tea time, while Shad's all armored up in the next door backyard screaming passionately about nunchucks and wailing on dummies? Sublime.
Finished the video. Both Shad and dead horse are thoroughly beaten. Bonus on stating obvious. 10/10 would recommend. Seriously I'm laughing like "Yes, obviously!" so many time.
The reason so many people have to invest time and energy into beating dead horses, is that so many morons keep trying to ride them, and it's illegal to beat the morons.
Police stick is heavy as hell. My father was a police so I was able to handle police equipment at home. Police stick is solid and heavy. If someone probably toss it in the sky, it may kill the person it hit.
I've always been more partial to tonfa than chucks. You can get the rotational acceleration in a swing and you can grab the striking end and use them to hook. More versatility IMHO.
watched a street fight yrs. ago ---- a guy was loosing, went over to a car, broke off the antenna, (that's how long ago it was ) and bent the end around his arm though his hand went back in and put 3 into hospital with deep cuts, used it like a rapier, poking and slashing. Best damn bit of "field expediency" I ever saw
@@youngguywastinghislife2084 collapsible batons are a good alternative, but you do trade off some effectiveness with the lower mass. Like we say in economics, "there are no solutions, only trade-offs".
Even better, after his nunchucks prove difficult to use, he cuts the cord, and uses the two sticks with some nails jammed in. Same magical effect, but easier to control.
actually nunchucks are used for casting ki spells because they scale with magic but deal physical damage so theyre really good for certain builds they clearly you and sir ben havent built for
what about the carved quarterstaff my good sir. the additional length allows the easer aiming of ranged ki strikes in the same manor that a pistol is less accurate to a rifle
Just use your Magic Wand as beating stick And even then, it's not that hard to just add an Ultra Greatsword to your build, just gotta level that strenght and you got yourself my favourite beating stick. Just sacrifice those few magic points, in my opinion magics main usage is doing damage from a distance, so you can sacrifice a bit of power while still having a ton of its benefit.
@@mauricestardddude8317 however, most of the best spells require a lot of magic points to use. Splitting yourself between strength and magic can sometimes result in neither ever reaching their full potential. However, using a big weapon that isn't too cost effective to use as well as using magic is a great strategy in my opinion and also really fun
@@kreatona4219 Jokes aside, yes trying to go full on with booth magic and power doesn't work out well. For my DS2 paythrough I have started doing a simmilar thing to what you explained. Focusing myself on attack while using magic as secondary. Having a few distance spells for switching up my moveset is really fun. I should maybe do the same for my DS3 build, where I am dual wielding a Greatsword and an Ultra Greatsword for switching up my moveset more (if I use this right it leads to extremely fun PvP). Putting in a little magic into that sounds like an extremely fun combo (especially if weapon arts would still work if you're holding a magic cataclyst).
Self defense also includes not hurting the other person which is why you would use the less lethal nun chucks over a stick. Using excessive force makes you no better then the person attacking you.
@@MrGhosta5 tell me how that makes sence? In self defence with a weapon you may or may not choose to use LETHAL force. Self defence with a firearm requires one to go for a kill shot unless they want to get sued into oblivion.
@@MrGhosta5 >Self defense also includes not hurting the other person I don't think you know what self defense is. Sure, you don't HAVE to hurt the other person, but in 98% of cases, it's sort of a necessity. Unless you live in a cucked country where self defense is heavily regulated and you have to use minimal force, but that's a different topic entirely.
As good analogy for the "control" argument is to compare it to driving skill. You could be the greatest driver in the world, but it doesn't mean you can't get into an accident. You will never be able to control other drivers and their actions just like you can't control an opponent and on the battlefield. If you think that your skill with nunchucks will prevent the possibility of a bounce-back in a fight then you are overestimating how much control you have in this situation.
I think people are under the mistaken impression that once you achieve a certain level of martial arts mastery you get transported into a kung fu movie.
@@wyrmh0le I liken it to college degrees. Yeah, sure, an art degree means you've technically graduated college. But that doesn't mean you can nail a well paying job with it any better than some guy straight out of high school.
I swear Im gonna put nunchucks as a weapon in an RPG: -High level requirement -9/10 dexterity required -Must complete a side-quest to obtain -Slightly less dmg than a stick sold in stores for like 3g -Has a chance of landing a critical hit (35-40% chance, 1/2 your base dmg)... _On the user!_
When I was a kid I asked my grandfather why he used a cane that was remarkably similar to your wacky stick when he didn't need assistance walking. His answer was to smack any dogs that tried to attack him (it was a problem in his neighborhood). So no Shad, nunchucks are not more concealable than a good wacky stick.
A nice 32 inch hickory stick with a brass knob on top (the topper/handle thing) makes for a heck of a beating stick without being a "weapon" (at least, in most jurisdictions).
Yea, people were able to hide alot of stuff in walking sticks too, and there's actualy a martial art for fighting with a stick, that was made because you can't walk around with a sword, unlike a stick.
I think the biggest issue here is that most martial arts aren't actually about fighting any more. The effectiveness of a martial arts weapon/technique in combat just isn't an issue within much martial arts stuff.
The problem is that they're a peasant weapon, not s noble weapon. They're modified threshing implemented, not the kind of thing a samurai would be using, but the kind of things a peasant who needs a weapon could make in a pinch or someone who wages to carry something that works as a weapon but doesn't look suspicious for a random farmer to be carrying. EDIT: Forgot to include my actual point, peasants are significantly less likely to actually own decent quality armor, especially given the overall quality of Japanese armor. EDIT 2: To be clear, I'm not defending them as a weapon, I was just bringing up the contest context of their use.
@@Great_Olaf5 except they aren't really a peasant weapon, the origin is unclear and there isn't any evidence of peasants using them. If you are a peasant farmer there is almost certainly going to be a lot of tools available to you that a way better weapons. Anything with a long shift and something metal on the end like a hoe, rake or bill for a start. I would guess the would all own an axe or similar for clearing land or removing plants which would be much more effective.
Again someone else partly stated my statement from first video. Okinawaian weapons in Karate though can be effective weapons, the point of the Kata was teaching improvised weapons training, reinforce foot work, striking technique, and tactics.
I learned them just to do it, just for fun and exercise/coordination. It was a long time before I actually tried striking something with them or sparring with them. And yes they would be garbage in a real fight.
@@ironmilutin Umbrellas designed for self defense are commercially available and AFAIK perfectly legal to carry. I doubt that police would even ask why you carry an umbrella let alone give you grief about it.
@@ironmilutin Yes, they are a thing. Skalagrim did a review on one ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B1IZ52MPEcs.html . They are not great weapons but way easier to use than nunchucks.
At my school we were taught the "normal" way to use nunchuks, flipping them around and catching them and such, but were also taught that the better way to use them is to just hold both halves in one hand, and only pull them apart to use the cord/chain for blocking and wrapping other weapons. We were also taught that if you can find a big stick you'd be better off with that 😂
I trained for several years with a skilled fencing teacher. I also socialized with him out of class. I once asked him his opinion of nunchuks versus any sort of a real sword in a real fight. He laughed wiping tears out of his eyes. I then asked about a quarter staff in the same scenario. He frowned a moment then said, "A fellow who is good with a quarter staff can be quite dangerous against one fellow with a sword. In situations like that it is the fellow who is most skillfully aggressive who lives." Notice the difference in his answers. Martial Arts movies ARE NOT real life.
@@harkonen1000000 yup, if I ever feel the need to carry something more dangerous than a fist, I'm getting myself a nice old-fashioned walking stick. That said, I haven't had to use my fist in anger since high school, so I'm hoping it will last until I can pull off the Gandalf trick for staying armed.
@@HebiSnake I think a spear is too much of an obvious weapon. Even a nice big walking stick is a little suspicious when carried by a big dude who obviously does not need it. And while staves do lack some of the stabbing ability, do not underestimate the force of a jab with a staff - I can put more weight into it than with a punch and it is focused on a smaller area.
Donatello: All Hail the Mighty Stick, Greatest of All Weapons. Michaelangeo: *crying in the corner* Raphael: *laughing his ass off* Leonardo: *trying to ignore the loonies he calls brothers*
well to be fair mikey never really uses the nunchucks for combat, he literally uses them to hit away the opponents attacks and uses his environment to hit them instead, like the pizza hanging from it mouth XD.
If the enemy ran away from you doing that, chances are they are not a good enough fighter that you would need to do that to beat them in the first place. Any half-decent fighter would just knock you down while you were doing it anyway :P
The fact that there is the level of mysticism that would lead to people believing that they are deadly supports this. they are banned from numerous countries because of this in spite of their lack of efficacy.
@@GummieI if the fighter is only half decent, they would probably get wrecked by the nunchucks. they're dangerous to the user, because they are dangerous in general. if you are a decent fighter and come across someone challenging you with nunchucks, your best bet is to get a better weapon or run away. the fact that they could ricochet off your face and hit their arm isn't going to stop them from injuring your face when they do hit.
@@SneakySolidSnake Pretty much anything that is longer than a knife or switchblade removes the possibility of being close enough to be whipped across the face by a nunchuck.
i've found a great use for nunchucks. You throw it at your opponent, and if they try to use it, you have gotten an advantage. If you throw a knife, you have the risk of them using it against you. With nunchucks that's not a risk. I mean, it literally has "chuck" in it's name
Both statements are correct - master won't hit himself with nunchaku, and a novice won't hit himself with a stick. Sticks are underrated weapons, and I'm one of the numerous tools that's criticising Shad's video and vouching for nunchaku. I honestly LIKE that nunchaku are unreasonably difficult to use - at least if your enemy manages to take your weapon from you, they probably can't use it against you. Small little bonus of using nunchaku, but eh. I'll take what I can get.
@@markcobuzzi826 Hah, would def be the case with an amature smooth brain. 98% of the user base, but if you ever encountered someone like me on the field of battle, it would probably be in a post apocolypse where you must be running with a bad crowd, the chances are nearly absolute zero xD but, being a person who has trained like me and is just naturally bigger, stronger, faster and more cunning, why not throw in nunchucks and take it too the next level, the odds of someone being obliterated by nunchucks are so low, but the odds of obliterating someone with nunchucks increase as soon as you dedicate a few years of training and are not a slow, clumbsy person of cource, innate ability is also a huge factor.
@@haiguyse nah, I get what your saying but only a weapon that has that extra rotation point can create enough force that you have to control with your own force, for instance, swinging a sword will generate a certain amount of force which, imagine a samurai practicing his strikes while moving in and moving out over and over, imagine the amount of strength this would require you too use to stop the sword at the bottom of the strike. Now add an extra point of rotation and not only does this force get multiplied, it requires you to redirect the energy, meaning you have to not only counter act more energy but you have to then redirect it which requires a shift in that energy, usint different muscles. Basically you generate more force and have to use more to controll it. My forearms are only tasked by my nunchucks, when I staff train, sword train and even with my oversided staff practice sword techniques akin to something like a busterblade(yes, using an oversized staff is good training, the longer tge weapon the harder to control, when you switch back to a normal sized sword its like taking off training weights.) The point is not training with one is better than the other, it is that each weapon tasks the body differently and thus makes it grow in different ways. Its almost like gaining and honing new and interesting skills makes you a more complete martial artist, who'd have thunk it. I train in a circuit with nunchuck, ropedart, over sized bo staff, regular sized bo staff, sword(stick) and sword(I think its an inch thick piece of rebar) this has gone on for years, I use one, tire and switch, the nunchucks tire me the most which means that they make me the strongest especially in the forearms and tendons all around, my grip strength for instance is rediculous, especially because I dishwashed for high capacity resturaunts while listening to audiobooks, making a measly wage but gaining knowledge at the same time, sacrificing wage I could earn for the ability to feed my mind, train my body at a faster rate and over all happiness. Taking nunchucksbout of that equation would have surely made me a weaker, slower man today.
I studied martial arts in my youth - I purchased some nunchucks, was trained with them, practiced them, learned their history, fell in love with Bruce Lee, etcetera. From the start, I knew that they were a very daft weapon, and that knowledge was only reinforced during my time using them.
but that's kinda why i like them so much. idk what it is but i love weapons that are ridiculous and inefective but are still able to be used well. like scythes. that's why i have so much respect for people who train so hard to master these weapons; there was no real reason to. they were just bored and trying to see what they can use to have fun, and do it well at that.
i always thought they were meant only for training, to improve coordination. Besides, Bruce beating someone wielding a katana with nunchucks only improves his image, he can beat you even with a crappy weapon.
It's a good enough weapon for self-defense, where carrying a full length stick is a little cumbersome but the nunchuks can be folded up. Some random schlub on the street can be dealt with using it, and that's pretty much what it's for. It's also quite intimidating to see somebody swinging them around.
What Shad didn't mention but I'm sure he already knows is that someone with a nunchuck would need plenty of space to use it in battle. Imagine trying to attack the enemy with such an unwieldy weapon without accidentally whacking your fellow soldiers. If you all are tightly packed; however, then you can just forget about it.
Yeah. Friendly fire factor. It holds true for other weapons but not to the detrimental extent of nunchaku(Japanese nouns are the same in singular and plural form. For instance, ninja in plural is still ninja).
Your point is entirely valid, but the original video was evaluating it as a self defense weapon, not a battle weapon. Probably why he didn't mention it.
i feel like nunchucks are a weapon that put all their skill points into intimidation. they're illegal in countries not because they're deadly, but because they're scary to go up against if you don't know much about them. Shillelagh's on the other hand, put all their skill points into deadliness and effectiveness without putting any whatsoever into intimidation or flair.
Ironically, I believe they were both born from the same context, where carrying normal weapons was illegal. But the Irish approach was, "How can I make this walking stick f*** up an Englishman?"
@@AlphaMoist Weapons are made illegal because they look cool in action movies, don't overestimate law makers! For example short shotguns with pistol grips are illegal in Germany because Terminator. These things are not practical at all and are the worst kind of shotgun. Yes they are somewhat conceilable, but so are pistols (even more so) and they are not illegal. A short shotgun with a pistol grip is quite possibly the worst firearm in existence, the only reason they are banned here is because they are used in cool action movies.
@@maximilianmustermann5763 short shotguns and cutoffs are illegal because of how concealable they are. Not because of movies. Get your head out of your ass
When learning how to use the Okinawa weapons my teacher would give us a bit of history on them, a lot of it was pretty basic stuff. One of the things he'd emphasize was the nunchaku were flashy, and fun but better off as a training tool than a effective weapon. On a second note, he'd also mention that the weapon was illegal not because of how powerful it was, but because it was worried that people would use it to strangle people to death.
They became illegal because people were getting hurt by then, seriously hurt! So much for them be a stupid an not a good weapon. If they were useless an not good for combat, they would be legal. An yes a great weapon for chocking.
@@pinkydavis4223 Chocking Also no, all it means is they're dangerously dumb weapons lol You can EASILY hurt yourself, that's why. He even mentions this in the video lol
You don't need to conceal a stick, the stick should be out in the open as a walking stick or cane. Then you can get even more socially acceptable reach. Hockey sticks work too in Canada.
I mean halberds and billhocks evolved from farming implements, do they need to be treated less harshly than spears that always were weapons since the dawn of time ? No. Why ? Cause they're not GARBAGE lol
I think the key to weapons that are less effective than a stick is usually intimidation value. It's all about making a weapon that will hopefully scare your opponent away before they can realize that their stick is vastly superior in terms of its lethality compared to your scary/ impressive- looking one. Defeat your enemies by sheer coolness factor!
Primary School: picked fights and ran away Secondary school: picked fights and threw them all to the concrete ground and then beat them up College: no fights Uni: pending Edit: Conclusion, avoid fights.
"You can't conceal a stick" You conceal it in plain sight, it's a walking stick. "Nunchucks are concealable because the can be folded in half" Telescopic baton go tctctctctctctc boop
I agree, but because of the strictness of Okinawan government, it might have been that only police and old people could have sticks, but then just conceal some tonfas or somethings, that is the purpose of tonfas anyway. TL;DR: Sticks might not have been accessible in Okinawa, but I would prefer hidden tonfas over nunchuks.
Umbrella Foldable umbrella Sharp tipped umbrella Child umbrella with a funny whistle at its hook. The last one is the most efficient for untrained civilian.
But a ninja would want to conceal their identity as a ninja. Unlike long sticks they can be carried concealed in a back scabbard , making them even more ninjy. A ninja could also disguise as a monk and carry them hidden inside a hollowed walking staff.
As someone who was somewhat critical of last video I gotta give you props on this one much more thoroughly done discussion. I respect you addressing the responses made. As a martial artist of 30 plus years i agree with a lot of what you have done here and again thanks for doing this follow up!
@Anal Farmer1 And still there lot of people (also in the comments) like "you know nothing if you would have lived monk dojo for 20 years, like me, you ignorant fool would see how superior nunchucks are over every other weapon"
I propose the ranged nunchucks - a longbow cut in half attached by string. Non shall disparage this weapon as I have a traditional connection with it and it can slightly annoy people when mastered with decades of training.
LAPD used them. Some places still do over batons. Maybe you should find out why before acting smug. They are not as deadly as batons. That is part of the reason why they are very good at certain applications.
@@FilmFlam-8008 You think because the Los Angeles police might sometimes allow some officers to carry them they're an effective weapon? I was in Los Angeles. Someone there told me that ranch dressing is vegan and ice cream is "a carb". I'm not sure I trust the LA police to not be dumbfucks.
It's funny how most people don't actually know that the stick is the most versatile and practical weapon in martial arts. An old martial arts friend taught me that.
Sharpen one edge of a stick it becomes a sword, sharpen it's tip it becomes a spear, if you can you can turn it into a bow and arrow, or leave it as it is and use it to wack people into submission.
