I guess the biggest drama around season 3 would be Andrea's departure. She had a contract for 8 seasons but got cut out by the showrunner for some reason. Lauren Holden said she bought a house and everything
I hated Andrea, her TV appearance was so terrible. Sucks for Holden but I was so glad when she died in season 3. Comic book Andrea was awesome but they changed her TV counterpart so much she became unrecognizable and incredibly annoying - Something that I think wouldn't have happened if Darabont had been kept.
@@StummerVogel Darabont completely changed the ending of season 1 with the CDC tho. From what i've heard he wanted to take the show in a completely different direction to the comics. I think he would have done a much better job adapting the rest of the show from what we got (especially in later seasons) but i don't think he wanted to do that.
Moral Orel’s so great. It was just a bit too ahead of its time - if it just came around a few years later with the rise of streaming services, Dino might’ve gotten the ability to see his creative vision through to the end, the darkness and all. That said, I don’t know if we would’ve gotten BoJack Horseman without Moral Orel blazing that trail.
The idea of doing a review on the entire walking dead series sounds hilarious because it just progressively gets somehow worse and worse to the point its on riverdale levels of bad writing. Its such a huge task so maybe just an adum and pals. I love the idea of adum just doing long podcast format vids on his channel. Kind of like what ralph did on his channel with wonder woman
I remember i loved TWD when i was younger, but stopped watching around season 5 just because I lost interest. I saw a random episode on AMC one day like last year or something, season 7 or something, and the episode had Jeffery Dean Morgan in it as Negan, and he legit looked like the only cast member having fun. The way he was acting as Negan just gave off the vibe that he was just really excited to be this evil maniac and it was pretty entertaining. The rest of the cast looked bored. I thought about going back and watching the show when he comes in but I'm not sure. Would you recommend just watching his portions?
@@SquadPoop Honestly I’d recommend watching the scenes with Negan and skimming through the rest, there’s a lot of meaningless filler and drama to go through. Most of the time the show isn’t even ”so-bad-it’s-good” level, it’s just wildly uninteresting even when it’s trying to shock you. The only reason I still watch it is because I really like Negan, he’s fun and the only character I root for anymore lol
I would really dislike that personally. I really don't like the podcast format, it is stupendously boring. I would rather him not review it at all then do a podcast style video. A lot of the enjoyment of watching his videos are his thoroughness and well articulated way of breaking down movies and shows, a podcast format would be a lot more messy and as I said before, very boring imo.
The Walking Dead was my favorite show (now it's Better Call Saul) The Negan arc RUINED it. It lasted 2 and a half seasons. That's nearly 3 years of the audience's life, and in the shows timeline it was only like 2 months. It just went on for so long, and it's all the same conflict. Then they made the worst mistake which was killing Carl. I fucking hated Chandler Riggs, but Carl's character was the whole point of the show. To have Rick make sure his son lives, and gets to have a life by the end of the story. Which is how the comic book ends. But they killed him, and Andrew left because of it. The show seemed over, but these newer seasons are DRASTICLY better than those 2 seasons. I have given up watching it, but I still keep up with it. It's such a sad story.
@@ReconMalfunction Yeah dropped it when they killed Carl. As much as his acting was bad at points he was clearly growing into it. I was a comic reader awaiting later arcs where he is the focus and a lot more involved. I was pissed. He was literally the future of the show and they just killed him off because he wanted to go to university even though he said he was fine to still work on it. Judeth had no connection to what the world was like before the outbreak and without 8 seasons of development i just wasn't attached to her or any of the other increasingly frustrating characters (except Rick of course). Its super weird because from what i've seen it seems like Judith just took his role so the decision is even more baffling. The worst part was making the All Out War arc way too long. It just became tedious watching the same shootout scenes interspersed with dumb filler. Andrew Lincoln was always solid the whole way through and gave some great performances. He was really let down the lack of financial backing from AMC to get in better actors, better effects or desperately needed writers.
Moral Orel is hard to talk about because there’s... so much to talk about. So many important minor characters, specific episodes, themes about religion and marriage and abuse/neglect. Adum could go off on so many things about that show.
but is it appropriate to delay it for purely 'thematic reasons' ? I guess it kind of depends person to person, but I feel like this is the classic trope of putting theme above all else (and as a result your art suffers for it.) I can't say thats definitively the case here, we will have to see, but Im interested to see what other people think about his reasoning for the delay.
@@BWGmedia I don't know that it's necessarily to make us wait, but to space out the reviews for himself as he himself grows. His mindset in approaching the next segment will be different than it would have been when he started doing them, as he's a different person now than he was then.
@@ScienceWinsEveryTime I guess only time will tell if it payed off or had a significant impact on the analysis overall in either a positive or negative way (which in and off itself will be different for every person I suppose.) But would you be satisfied if he decided he wasn't going to finish the review at all and cited thematic reasons. I'm sure you (EDIT: or anyone) could BS just as good of a justification for why it should never be finished, something like how we want so much what we cannot have, and not having that sense of completeness leaves us somewhat empty emotionally, a sense of feeling cheated, much in the same way a lot of the characters in the film feel cheated.
@@BWGmedia He also says he likes to keep his promises. I don't think I'm BSing, you asked a question and I gave a possible rationale. I'm not a mindreader but this is a film that can really change someone's outlook on life, and I believe it has with Adam. He's embracing more than a theme, he's using the philosophy and storytelling approach of the film for the review. I'm impatient to see it as well, but I'm not the one making it. I think Adam wants to get it right and this is how he thinks he'll achieve that. And he's going to work on it after Lion King is done, didn't he say? So sit tight, it's coming.
Both Moral Orel and Twin Peaks are classic shows that find their true identity in the seasaon 2 finale and then release an awesome season 3 that completely shifts the tone, a final season that will break your soul.
An Adum and Pals seems like the only doable format for The Walking Dead. The quality of the show is so inconsistent, especially later on, and I’d love nothing more than to see your opinions on it in some way
I completely relate to Adum saying he sits on things for long periods of time and that this is how he makes things. As someone who writes unprofessionally/recreationally I will have stories and just sit on them for months on end because I genuinely feel like if I rush through it and then I look at it later I cringe at it. So I'd rather delay my writings so I can periodically return to them and have that moment of realization before I finish it. Because after you finish it its even harder to go back and recreate it.
Same. I've been meaning to launch a music channel and am sitting on like 65 songs because I'm just stuck at the "but I could do it better in a month/year/decade"
but you could just... write/produce/create new stuff after you quickly finish the old project... Like what's better: have a bad project plus some better projects by the end of the year, or have just one good project by the end of that same year? - though after some years pass, by your new measures of quality this one project will start seeming bad anyway. Or, well, you can start a project, let it sit and in the meantime start another one, but then you'll likely end up with countless unfinished projects by the end of the year. It seems to be working out for Adam tho, since he's hardworking and persistant enough to actually finish all of his stuff.
Still haven’t watched any of his reviews because I’m yet to find a place I can watch the movie itself. My options are very limited as I just have a phone, no pc or laptop.
Ayyyy Moral Orel. It’s my favorite show ever and it makes me happy that you even remember it. It actually saved be from ending my life, and when I didn’t have any friends, it was there for me. Also the soundtrack is literally amazing.
It may be “rushed” but it was very well done and was very Cathartic, I wish they had continued the series just to see Orel’s arc just to see how his teen and young adult years would have been like
Adam’s review of Synecdoche is becoming very much like the play in Synecdoche, New York. Soon we’ll be getting elderly Adam talking about the half way mark of the movie.
If you want to know more about the production of Moral Orel there’s a guy called David tuber that worked on animation/director/story board He has a RU-vid account called metuber And also worked on robot chicken and Mary shellys Frankenhole
I didn’t even know he was still planning on reviewing _The Walking Dead_ . His investment after season 1 seemed like it dipped significantly, so that surprised me. I guess I was wrong.
I think it's better for Adam to just make what he wants and what he is most passionate about and not worry too much about what he promised to do years ago. It would make for better content.
He doesn't really make those promises anymore, but I respect him saying he'll do something and doing it. That's how we got the official YMS for The Visit.
I just want to say how cool it is that adum is just so upfront and if he promises something he doesn’t cancel it. I have mad respect for RU-vidrs who are clear with how their content is produced
I can see why both would be hard series to review, especially because Morel Orel starts as a like a gag show and then like...went up all the notches in its final season into masterpiece territory with its general thesis.
After a quick google - if every moral oral episode runtime is about 11-12 minutes (rounded to 11.5) and there's 43 episodes + the 23 minute 'Beforel Orel' special that's 517 minutes roughly. The LOTR theatrical editions run at 557 minutes, 682 for the extended edition, and 726 for extended edition + credits.
I feel like Adam is one of the most sincere passionate content creators on the internet. He really sticks to his own set of standards and I really appreciate him for it.
The Walking Dead review was the first content i watched.. and i loved it, it was so informative, not just pocking fun that was the big difference with Adam's content, he can balance funny and informative really well without losing your attention, and i was a fan from that point on. I would love more Walking Dead but of course i think he should decide when something it's good enough for his audience.
I think with The Walking Dead it's really hard to do a typical YMS review for because after a point the entire thing inevitably gets bogged down in a repetitive cycle of saying "then this dumb thing happens" over and over again.
An idea could be to make a compartment between the comic and the show. Something similar you did with Old Boy, and tell what's working, and what does not working, and why things had to change, and why some things just wont work. I'm quite sure that the tv-show have went further away than the comic have, which means it doesn't need equal much coverage as watching the whole tv-show.
That rant about video essayists is completely on point. Even the ones that are good give off that vibe. I mean, even calling yourself a video essayist is kind of a red flag at this point haha
Does Adam read these comments? Because I'm Facebook friends with Dino as well as series animator David Tuber if he'd want me to try to reach out. (I think I'd have better luck with David.)
What would be a great idea is for another channel to tackle the TWD and maybe ask Adam to cameo. That way he can keep his promise to an extent, but not have to sink all that work in - leave that to someone who's already done the work he'd do and wants to collab
Holy shit watching Adam go through the entire series would be amazing. It's changed so much and seeing him react to all the bullshit writing that comes would be amazing.
I would absolutely watch an Adum & Pals of the Walking Dead with just Adum. Plus as someone who is a fan of the comic and also abandoned the show around the season 4 and 5 era, I'd be interested to see just how much of a train wreck it turns into and how much they shredded up the source material.
I love the idea of just holding out on walking dead til it finally "ends" in like five years and then dropping "YMS Walking Dead Series 3" as such a meme - but an adam and pals is probably the way to keep the promise of a "yms" on it and have it be doable. Or just hold onto it til the show ends is my vote.
I have been waiting for the Moral Orel video for so long now...waitijg for a bit longer won't hurt. Even if it takes another 2 years, which it probably will lol
I know adam will hate hearing me say this because it would just put more work on his end, but for the walking dead, i would suggest reading the comics. I'm not sure what type of review you want exactly for the walking dead but i think you could find a reason that justifies making another review on the show. Like with season 2 you said you were telling the story of how AMC fucked Frank darabont, i think you could find a story to tell with you became familiar with the comics. Now i haven't prepped this so it may sound like nonsense in parts so i apologize in advance. In the comics, the story was meant to just go on, the writer didn't want the story to just end he would always ask ''well what comes next in the lives of these characters'' Now at first this may seem like someone that just wanted to make an ongoing story like dumb shit like the vampire diaries or supernatural, but the way robert kirkman wrote his story is interesting to me. he uses a lot of negative aspects of writing to help deliver the point his story is trying to make. basically from volume 2 to the end of the series rick never shuts the fuck up about trust and leadership and resposiblity, and at times it may seem repetitive because it can feel like the same conversation over and over again. But everytime something happens in the story, whether it be a death, an attack, or even just, someone almost got hurt, you can see a slight change in how rick and others view these ideas of leadership. I could go more in depth but the point im getting to is that the comics are written to walk a fine line between using these negative writing aspects in a positive way and just straight up using the negative writing aspects, the show on the other hand, its amazing how poorly it adapts the comics even when some scenes are exactly the same as the comics. At times it seriously feels like AMC didn't understand the point to something in the comics, or they thought ''man this might challenge our audience to think for themselves and possibly change the way they perceive things...fuck that we can't let our audience use their brains, just take snippets of the scene and put them in the show.'' i suck at putting my thoughts into words so i apologize, my point is, AMC (whether is was intentional or not) fucked over the comics by adapting it the way a child who is only interested in action would.
do you think the comics are worth reading from begining to end or just parts of it? also could you give more examples of the amc show missing the point of the comics and how the comics takes negative aspects of writing to make it positive? (don't worry about spoilers I don't really care about that)
@@poppag8281 Definitely worth reading, all of it. The TV show has so little in common with the comics by now it will be an entirely new experience. The TV show keeps killing off characters from the comics and replacing them with original characters, changes characters' roles and entire plot points. It's also a lot more toned-down, and I don't just mean the gore. To me it feels like the TV show wasn't made by people who read the graphic novels but rather by someone who was told about the graphic novels, so they know the basic plot and the character names but not how they play out, and much less WHY.
@@poppag8281 again i havent really preppeed any of this and i suck at putting my thoughts into words so bare with me. its worth reading beginning to end especially because its a totally unique zombie story especially with how it ends. but with taking negative aspects and turning them positive i meant it more as things like repetition are used to its advantage. I swear to god rick has the same conversation about trust and leadership like 9 times but each one is different enough to show how each character is affected. It also does a great job of using the same incident to be the core of like 20 different conflicts between characters and i dont mean like how in twd season 2 every character talks one on one all the time. its more like showing how each character deals with an issue as well as how they act around each character during the time the issue is happening. its not to waste time like season 2 did because each conversation that happens impacts the relationship between characters and the characters themselves.
@@poppag8281 i think the final arc feels slightly rushed, like maybe if there was a volume or two more then it would have helped, but the overall ending is the greatest ending to any media that deals with zombies plus more. i mean, being the best zombies story isn't that high of a bar to get over but the walking dead comics not only accomplishes it but is just an amazing ending in general
The problem with the live watching is I know you would have a hard time not wanting to pause every minute or so to go on about why a moment was stupid. It's not your problem, but the problem with the show. So it could also take years.
I feel like, if he were going to address the rest of The Walking Dead, the most realistic solution would be essentially a collective Quickie. Going full into it like he does in regular YMS videos just isn't realistic, but if he spent 10 minutes talking about the biggest problems with each season, then it would be more manageable; an hour and a half of individual assessments with a few minutes at the end for the whole series.
I hope Adum doesn’t have to force him to do TWD S3, as much as I want to see it. I know he promised it and all, but still. I don’t think people would lose their minds if it got scrapped, whether it was because he was never happy with it or because he didn’t want to work on it anymore. That being said, I would love a streamed watch-along for the show! It’d give more room to other projects too, with it not being a full YMS review or anything.
How is moral Orel in HD on HBOMAX that doesn't make sense to me:O Is it digitally upscaled? It doesn't seem like it was shot in HD any time they do a digital Zoom the picture quality looks really really shity like they're zooming into a standard definition image
Do that, Adam (If you're watching this)! We all know that you're stretching yourself thin with this Lion King review and that you've been wanting to do these things for forever. People will be okay with it as much as they will be okay with Bradley Beal requesting a trade from the Wizards which is a reference that doesn't really belong here, but it means that everyone will be really okay with it!
