Yoko Taro Critiques Existentialism

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The Philosophy of Nier Automata based in one of the most fundamental ideas of the practice of philosophy, and to think that you get here based on killing a ton of philosophers. There is an audio peak that I couldn't get rid of around minute 6, so I suggest not using headphones
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Комментарии : 47

@marcusanark2541 3 года назад

I love NieR: Automata.

@SocraTetris 3 года назад

Me too! You're gonna love what I'm making for the end of the year too!

@deadhelix 3 года назад

@SocraTetris are you still working on the video or did it come out? I search for anything that involves this game and your videos are well made

@SocraTetris 3 года назад

In december I have released 2 videos on Nier Automata's engagement with Marx & Engels, and Ernst Bloch. They should be on the channel's video page or in the "Philosophy of Nier" playlist. Thank you for taking the time to watch them! 🙏🏾

@RekkaAlexiel 7 лет назад

A2 wanted to avenge her lost comrades. That's what gave purpose to her life.

@agroed 5 лет назад

You have an amazing channel that clearly has a lot of love and work put into it, especially for being small. Keep it up.

@Andrewlik Год назад

love that this is basically the message I understood and have been repeating to friends since. "life in and of itself has no meaning. The meaning it has is the meaning you give it; you like 'for' someone, for something. For your friends, for your fandoms, for your significant others. And this is okay. But when you lose this someone... It's going to suck, your life may lose alot of its meaning then. But DO NOT let this loss consume you. DO NOT let this loss define you. Patch yourself up, and keep moving, because in time, you WILL find someone or something else to live for, someone or something that will make you happy again." 9S loses 2B, and goes mad. A2 loses her squad, and goes mad. Adam loses Eve, and goes mad. ... Nier Automata... It broke my heart. When I made the sacrifice and lost my save file, I was upset that I'll never be able to immerse myself in the world in the same way again. It was the game I was "working towards" at the end of the week, so when it was done, it took some adaptation But I got the message this game was trying to tell. I found new games after Automata I'm as or if not more passionate about, and though I may never be able to play Nier Automata the same way again, I can still talk so highly about it, tell stories, and remember what I learned about myself through this game. That can never be taken away from me. I like how I basically went through the same motions after getting dumped a few months ago, huge heartbreak followed by a loss of motivation and meaning, and yet, Automata already taught me how to approach it and move on, and I've found new people to be passionate for. I don't know what the point of this tangent is, but thank you for this video, and thanks for reading this far.

@SocraTetris Год назад

I'm glad you enjoyed it, Andrewlik. Hopefully my other Nier automata videos will be just as enjoyable for you :)

@killinsoftly756 7 лет назад

Excellent video

@SocraTetris 7 лет назад

Thank you, KS! If you have anyone you think might be interested, please share with them too. :)

@SocraTetris 7 лет назад

The philosophy of NieR:A BETA should be up by 9pm. I hope you'll check it out.

@iroquoispliskin8892 7 лет назад

Great video man. Could the next video be about "human evolution"? How the androids and the machines are all linked to humanity in different ways, and how in imitating them they basically evolved the concept of humanity? Even way past our disappearance from the world? Just guessing

@SocraTetris 7 лет назад

Thanks again! As for your answer... my lips are still sealed for now.

@SocraTetris 7 лет назад

The next video on NieR:A should be up by 9pm. Thank for your patience, IP!

@iroquoispliskin8892 7 лет назад

Tnx, I'll watch it now

@myusername3689 Год назад

From me being an asshole to this channel to me binge watching this channel. Quite the journey.

@SocraTetris Год назад

It's all good, people and change :)

@lubu2960 4 года назад

nice video

@peteragurkis3590 4 года назад

I think the biggest idea I drew from this game is that "God is dead". The androids having found out that both the humans and the aliens for which they are the proxy fighters are extinct. The value structure on which they were acting (to kill all the robots/aliens so that the humans can win) has been entirely shattered. Now these autonomous beings (which represent us) are charged with finding their purpose. I haven't completely finished the game but one thing I have noticed is that each one after losing their purpose does one of two things. They either A.) Follow the past traditions blindly with no real stake in why they do what they do or B.) Become bitter and resentful and seek to take revenge against reality itself to the point of their utmost destruction. Neither seem all that productive to me. This game has yet to reveal the "aha!" Moment to me but the more you look at it the deeper it goes. Truly a great work

@SocraTetris 4 года назад

Thank you, Peter. And do keep playing! It is good to see that you understand "God is Dead" in its true meaning, the loss of an inherent and assumed value system, and not the propogandist interpretation, which is to rebel and deconstruct theist culture and beliefs. That's no small hurdle. ✌ You may not get the "Aha" moment, but going through every ending is worth it. If existentialism speaks to you, remember that meaning is constructed by us, so we won't always get that pleasent surprise of discovering a new value.

@tvan483 7 лет назад

Thanks for the video! And I'll go with "human emotion"

@SocraTetris 7 лет назад

Happy to do it, TVan! Make some friends watch it too, if you think they'd like it.

@SocraTetris 7 лет назад

NieR:A BETA should be up by 9pm, TVan. I hope you'll take a look.

@benzur3503 4 года назад

Camus did not spend an entire book dissing each and every existentialist philosopher that came before him to be called an existentialist. A dialectic is not punching out ideas that you dislike leaving only your own, and even if it was, beating the people who said one must construct one’s own meaning so they could construct their own meaning is not defeating them, it is agreeing with them and agreeing to disagree in a self-contradicting manner. The fact that 9s correlates the machines actions to not be a product of consciousness is related to his exclusion of machines from the category of living beings. Him being wrong about this fact means it is not about “the meaning of life” but rather a Cartesian division between beings who have access to reason, and beings who act by instinct and reaction alone. Even with Descartes claim that all animals are machines that simulate reactions with containing the internal perception required to process the world did not mean he literally thought only humans were not machines, but rather that some living beings can not examine the reasons that brought them to be as they are.

@SocraTetris 4 года назад

Camus starts with the same basic concept as the Existentialists in his work, and is therefore considered an existentialist in study. Yes, he was very critical of the others, but critical in a way where he found their conclusions wrong from an agreed upon postulate. Descartes' religious idealogy around the omnibenevolence of god is precisely why he did give special exception to the human animal as rational and self-governed, in order to overcome the problem of perfect deception which he created with the daemon thought experiment. This has been my understanding of how the two have been treated in scholarship for some time.

@benzur3503 4 года назад

SocraTetris and what basic concept is that exactly? I know unlike Sartre he denied the possibility of constructing meaning, claiming that life is inherently absurd, and any thing at all one wishes to do instead of suicide has just as much inherent necessity to cause it as suicide. Descartes evil daemon is just a skeptic that says your perception might be limited by the nature of its perceived. Descartes’ philosophical argument to answer skeptics is that we have the ability to comprehend necessity and differ between the parts that are necessary and the parts that are arbitrary in each concept, are proof that the reason of our creation (in his theology and philosophy, god) had instilled in us necessarily the capacity to comprehend. And if we can comprehend the atoms of perceptions and ideas, and some of their combinations (as we do in observation and thought) then those perceptions must have been caused by at least a material object, and a mental object. Other rationalists like Leibniz and Spinoza developed Descartes’ positing of necessary objects to somewhat different metaphysical theories, but regardless both Descartes and 9s argue for an epistemological relation or lack thereof between perception of actions and thought that may or may not be necessary for the existence of the perceptions it causes, not for non-essential post-ontological essence definition

@SocraTetris 4 года назад

The concept is that existence precedes essence. That there is being before meaning. Ben, try not to soliloquy so long after asking a question. It comes across and lacking good will. For concise replies, start with a concise scope to the conversation.

@benzur3503 4 года назад

SocraTetris alright. I’ll reduce the length and focus my point: Camus is an absurdist and not an existentialist. Unlike existentialists that claim man must construct meaning that is not determined before he constructs it. Like the existentialists Camus does not accept the lack of inherent meaning in life as a sufficient reason to end it, but unlike them he did not think that a meaning can be constructed, and that the pursuit of meaning that does not acknowledge its own meaninglessness misses the point. I’m not standing in agreement with either Sartre or Camus’s philosophies, but I hate to see them being confused with one another despite the genuine differences between them.the subject of existentialism is hard enough to try and study without its different branches being mistaken as a singular one

@SocraTetris 4 года назад

Not all existentialists believed that meaning was constructed freely. That was mainly just sartre. De Beauvoir asserted that the postulate meant freedom is the inherent essence. Kierkegaard, that essence is given by God and only accessible through faith. Nietzsche, that meaning cannot be constructed making power/force/utility being the only functional consideration. All of the existentialist were highly critical of each other, and the only thing they really agreed on was the postulate. This is why Absurdism, made by Camus, is considered a branch of existentialism. Camus was particularly more criticized by the other existentialists than they criticized each other. That's why Existential Comics always makes him the edgy-loner character, lol.

@robs2718 7 лет назад

Holism & Evolution

@SocraTetris 7 лет назад

Thanks for the comment, and your patience! The video should be up by 9pm today.

@ChaosAura452 Год назад

5:39 OW... my right ear Not cool dude, you could've just muted that pop

@SocraTetris Год назад

this was much earlier in my learning how to make videos, and I did not know how. My apologies. But also, you're fine. Calm down

@lunerblade13 7 лет назад

2:33 you could say 2B asked to be killed. wink wink nudge nudge.

@SocraTetris 7 лет назад

Lol!

@matthewlugo2417 4 года назад

Hegel? 9s? Hmm im not sure

@SocraTetris 4 года назад

Hegel is definitely a unique challenge, because it doesn't have much in the way of speaking parts. I will be returning to Nier Automata this year, so maybe!

@matthewlugo2417 4 года назад

@@SocraTetris the only other thing i would think it could be is human existence or human existentialism

@SocraTetris 4 года назад

Oh! I understand. This video is a good dealnolder, Matthew. The next episode on NieR Automata is already out!

@matthewlugo2417 4 года назад

@@SocraTetris sweet

@Lux_Lost 5 лет назад

Humanity is Extinct?

@SocraTetris 5 лет назад

The NieR lore goes very deep, haha. I don't think its much of a spoiler now, but humanity has been gone for a long time. That's why you'll hear the youtube community specifically use the terms "Replicant" "Gestalt" "Android" "Machine" etc. But they won't stray away from the word "Person". It's kind of like how Kingdom Hearts refers to the "Nobodies".

@Lux_Lost 5 лет назад

SocraTetris yeah, I know, it was my guess for HE, I didn't realize that the second part is already out😁

@SocraTetris 5 лет назад

Oh! Lol. Yeah. It used to be more obvious, but I'm slowly redoing the thumbnails for my old videos to have my current style

@myusername3689 Год назад

Let’s just say, humanity was exposed to a disease. No more details or context beyond that.

@MassiveAchievement 6 лет назад

did you play the talos principle? i think you will have a great time debating philosophy with the MLA AI. the story is deeper than in nier automata and also somehow realistic.