You’ve got your first 8 bars! But now what??

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The ABA form, or Small Ternary, is your next step into writing longer pieces of music.
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@RyanLeach Год назад

💪 How to WRITE LONGER MUSIC with the REPS METHOD ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sU3-4NdQSA4.html

@ChristopherSiu Год назад

Definitely one of my favourite forms. Gives the listener enough contrasting material while keeping it structurally sound and concise. Thanks Ryan!

@composingchef Год назад

I know it's just you judging your competitions, so you can't look at the scores and sound has to be the focus, but if you could only see what I've learned from you. This. This stuff has made my music way better. Every entry, on paper, is beautifully crafted and it's thanks to you. I've even gone through my files and finished many other works. Maybe, with more people, you can have a composition competition where the score is judged. That's where the art and craft of composition truly shines, and, that's what I believe I do well. I'm not good at the DAW yet, but, we will see. Cheers.

@HeavenestStCyr Год назад

Tips: Reverse direction of A theme Pull small fragments from A theme as similarities create a sense of cohesiveness. Start on a different note from the tonic or starting note of A theme

@gavinleepermusic Год назад

Great video! I think the Octopath stuff is excellent material to illustrate this concept :)

@jjrussell Год назад

Very nice. I have so many 8 bar ideas lying around in cubase. Gotta go back and visit some of those.

@DTux5249 7 месяцев назад

Now here's a question: have you successfully revisited any of those?

@TurdMcNugget Год назад

Thanks for your content, Ryan. I often feel like I learn more from you than I did from my college composition professors. Sad, but true.

@tysoncazier Год назад

Great video, thanks for making this Ryan!

@gonzalozubillaga9341 Год назад

Loved it Thank you Ryan!

@rodterrell304 Год назад

Well done , thanks again Ryan

@MrKeithterrett Год назад

Another great video, very helpful indeed Ryan.

@1warmday1 Год назад

Always insightful! Thanks Ryan!

@matteocastellan Год назад

Great material! Inspiring

@CarlosMartinez-gr1rp Год назад

Fantastic video, really helpful !

@renaldodavis7372 Год назад

Great video Ryan! Thanks!

@VeganKebabDoRuky Год назад

Thanks for making these videos, they're always very helpful and concise 😌🙏

@danilgogin4405 Год назад

Your videos is so good! Thank u for them

@OliKember Год назад

This was most helpful! I would love a full course on this topic some day. ;)

@unexpected8166 Год назад

Yes! Please do more videos on form.

@tristanpaxton51 Год назад

I love discussion of form. Especially on the level of sentences and periods. Really enjoying the channel!

@lukasgraesslin Год назад

Thanks, this is a great followup/explanation to your ABA Octopath Traveler video! Also thanks in general for showing the great soundtrack of Octopath Traveler, I would have never checked that out if it wasn't for your videos.

@shaolin1derpalm Год назад

Wow. Your explanations are so clear and logical.

@mazetoeden9334 Год назад

soooo helpful

@SoraiaLMotta Год назад

it really got me thinking about the importance of the cadences. thanks

@timorgr 4 месяца назад

I love your videos Ryan! They cut right to the chase and are very practical. Thank you so much for your insights!

@quintongordon6024 Год назад

Love the video. Would always love another video on transitions though.

@anled.composition Год назад

Really enjoying your videos on structure ! The examples are really useful. Discovered only lately how fundamental this topic is. Looking forward to seeing videos about how to merge such small forms into a longer one. Studying structure in John Williams' pieces could be really interesting as well.

@GnuSCello Год назад

Great video Ryan!

@RyanLeach Год назад

Thanks!

@raulbondarev1160 5 месяцев назад

Thank you, Ryan. It was really informative and usuful)

@paulhickey7005 Год назад

Hi Ryan; Would you consider creating a video about the double period? Thanks again for the clearest explanations I've heard, concerning different musical forms.

@karim0302 Год назад

I really enjoy your videos on structure and form, so I'd like to see you dive a bit deeper! I think Mark Richard's paper on film music themes could be a good source if you decide to.

@askbrettmanning 9 месяцев назад

Fantastic channel. Been watching for several days. trying to get ready to create, but I want be as equipped as possible. Thank you Ryan. You content is concise and exceptional.

@RyanLeach 9 месяцев назад

Thanks! Watch everything twice but don't let me be an excuse to procrastinate on writing!

@craia25 Год назад

videos like this are really amazing....

@fattmusiek5452 10 месяцев назад

Always learning something new from great videos like these. What I find great is that you use theory vernacular/terminology, and I've needed to brush up on it, esp. regarding cadences. Ps. Would love to see FF7's OST as one to explore and break down- that's just my wishful thinking. lol. (If you were going to use a game or series for reference again, that is). Thanks again!

@ToyKeeper Год назад

Usually I have about a minute worth of material and need to learn more about orchestration, arrangement, and production so I can turn it into a full song. Sometimes it's just A and B parts, but more often it'll be ABC or even 0ABCD0 or something. ... and I almost never use periods in music. Each section ends with an interruption into the next section, pulling things forward, and usually the only resolution is the very first note of part A.

@cristianlopez7581 11 месяцев назад

Love this channel, that's all I have to say

@johnh14159 Год назад

I've just noticed in Cyrus the Scholar that the entire piece is structurally very similar to the sentence form but with eight bars in each phrase instead of four. The first eight bars is equivalent to the main idea in the sentence form, with a continuation in the next few bars, with a cadence at the end. This gives Cyrus the Scholar the advantages of the sentence form while having the feeling of an A and B section. Thanks for posting, I would have never realised this otherwise.

@midasthehighest Год назад

7:59 that part is so beautiful my God 🤯

@waltz251 Год назад

Perfect timing! I've just watched your ABA form vid and now it feels like a demonstration and explanation two-part video

@RyanLeach Год назад

Nice! The followup to that one has been a long time coming

@antoniosgeorgou9318 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@RyanLeach 11 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@alexlarocca3065 Год назад

Ryan, long time subscriber first time commenter here. Do you have a resource for all these octopath charts or do you do them by ear?

@RyanLeach Год назад

Just by ear, so there's certainly room for error!

@alexchristodoulou Год назад

Great video Ryan. I would object a bit on how much the B theme should be related to the A. Doing tricks like inversions, mirrorings etc on the A theme would lead more to a A’ section (development) rather than a B. I think the general perception is that B should be contrasting and self-contained as material, so that it really allows for the return to A to give the feeling of returning home from somewhere distant.

@ShaharHarshuv Год назад

You videos about forms made me realize I need to put more effort into studying this super important topic, so I started reading "analyzing classical form", even though it's pretty long and firmly rooted in classical music analysis, it's been very interesting. Any other books you might recommend?

@RyanLeach Год назад

ACF is of course my favorite. I like the Cedric Thorpe Davie a lot as well, much more concise. Another I read long ago that left an impression is The Thematic Process in Music by Rudolph Reti, although it's been a long time so I don't quite remember the details. Also I think it's our of print and hard to get a hold of..

@ShaharHarshuv Год назад

@@RyanLeach nice. I had a feeling you might be basing some of you videos on ACF after reading the chapter on the sentence form 😅

@krystimusik757 Год назад

What about an orchestration? Should we keep it consistant in a section and change it in B section? How much change is too much?

@RyanLeach Год назад

I think a break in section is a great opportunity for a change in color or texture. Generally the smaller the form/piece the less drastic the contrast

@markwrede8878 Год назад

Multiply your theme by itself ... or by another theme.

@stormRed Год назад

Thanks for using Octopath music, a very underrated series IMO. Incredibly moving soundtrack.

@tobbebergman7583 Год назад

I feel like I own this guy a million for his great vids ! Whish I knew his bank account !

@gaopinghu7332 Год назад

To steal from him? When someone says this, it becomes very suspicious

@nickmuzekari6124 7 месяцев назад

Great video. Wondering, do you always craft your compositions with a melody first and then harmonize?

@RyanLeach 7 месяцев назад

Usually but not always. And many times it's a few steps forward with melody, a few with harmony, back to melody etc

@nickmuzekari6124 7 месяцев назад

@@RyanLeach Got you, thanks 👍

@waldoadams1611 6 месяцев назад

Can you do a video on writing a piece with the full blues form (intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/middle 8/chorus/outro = AA'BA'BCBB)'?

@1three378 Год назад

Hey Ryan! You're a great inspiration for me and all mountain bikers of my generation. Why did you quit?

@RyanLeach Год назад

Maybe you are thinking of Ryan Leech with two "e"s

@Dovith Год назад

Just a question, if you are basing your B section on material from the A section wouldn't that be some sort of binary?

@mathewowen3506 Год назад

How do you turn small ternary into an even bigger piece?

@gaopinghu7332 Год назад

Sorry if I'm late, but the Sonata form is a possibility. Inside the Score has got a great video about it

@waltz251 Год назад

7:57 doesn't it modulate to the key of Gm (ii)?

@RyanLeach Год назад

Gm is the relative minor of Bb, so if you wanted to see it that way you could. But to my ear the Gm sounds like vi, and the half cadence in bar 17 has me expecting a resolution to Bb.

@PedalingAdventures Год назад

👍

@flix9267 Год назад

What function is Eb in D in Therion and Dbmaj in C in Ophelia? Does anybody know this or send me a Link to a video that explains those chords? Are those some kind of Substitute Dominants?

@RyanLeach Год назад

Think of them both as bVI chords being borrowed from the parallel minor. Ophelia is in the key of F, so the parallel minor is F minor and Db is bVI. The Therion one is a bit more complex and I think would be even more confusing in a comment, I'd just say research modal interchange and borrowed chords

@flix9267 Год назад

@@RyanLeach Thanks a lot! 🙌

@colinliaubass1712 Год назад

Where's the stem of the first note of Cyrus, the Scholer v19?

@RyanLeach Год назад

yea that's weird

@colinliaubass1712 Год назад

@@RyanLeach is the first note of v19 of Cyrus, the Scholer supposed to be a whole note?

@RyanLeach Год назад

It's a dotted quarter the stem just didn't render for some reason

@autisticcormorant6881 Год назад

First

@hoon_sol Год назад

Depends: if you're Bach, you weave it into a timeless magnificent masterpiece; if you're not, you end up with something that's either extremely boring and repetitive, or something that's unconnected and awful to listen to.