You’ve NEVER Heard AI Music Like This :( 

AI tools will be less generic and more focused. We will have AI daws or plugins, and we'll be able to prompt on a multitrack "give me a sax solo in D minor, virtuoso". At that point it will be like scraping an infinite sample pack or loop pack, which is something we've been doing for years and nobody complained about it.

Very thought-provoking; very moving; very challenging. Thank you for posting and painting this dilemma for us, so vividly.

This is scary AF. On the other hand, this is kinda like when you're browsing through the sounds or modes of a synthesizer, and the arpegiator or whatever gives you the sound you want, but way more complex, it's like similar but on a whole different level that just blows our minds. Great video.

Both are great. Honestly I like your’s best! IMHO nothing beats the human touch I felt more and didn’t watch you sing it. Thank you for beginning this to our attention ❤️

Same here. I'm a hobby "musician" since 20 years. I can't play any instrument. I use keyboard and daws and have produced and so I'm able to create what's in my head. I nearly never finished a track. Last week i uploaded a song to suno. I was blown away. It took everything from my song. Even the chord progression and finished my song with the lyrics I wanted within seconds. It added parts which fit perfectly to the melody. The song got better than I would ever be able to make it on my own. Now I'm sitting here with a song that I love and don't know what to do. Everybody who hears the song is blown away. My wife is so proud of me. but it doesn't feel like it's my song. Yes. 80% of the music is mine. But the arrangement isn't mine. Chatgpt helped me with the lyrics. I won't lie to anybody who asks me who's the singer but do I have to mention that parts of the song are ai generated ? Can I be proud ? How should this feel ? All I know is this technology will change everything in the music industry

Well, I didn’t click on this thinking you were going to make me cry.

Him: I'm not a good singer 5 seconds later: fantastic singing 👁️👄👁️

I've used Udio a little just for fun and I've been blown away with the results. I'm no musician or lyricist but this has made me feel I am. I did 10 songs and these songs have been put together in a playlist which very well could have been made into an album. I've listened to these tracks so much so that a couple of them have become earworms and I've found myself singing and humming them to myself at work. Now I'm hearing songs on the radio which seem to have a similar approach to songs I've either made myself or heard from experimenting with Udio. Have these tracks I've heard on the radio been made in part or been inspired by entering lyrics into something like Udio? I guess we'll never know unless the artist actually says so.

O M G - that is ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE! ! ! ! *BOTH versions btw - you have a great voice mate.

That is, the most honest video about ai generated music I've seen so far

I liked both versions although I think I appreciated the live performance more. I do have a suggestion; maybe you could do a duet with the AI. I think that could turn out to be effective. Strangely the lyrics, I think, could be seen to kind of reflect the relationship between the AI entity and the human agent as they sing to each other.

To be honest man, this is the first song in decades that made me cry, both her versions and yours… thank you.

I can definitely relate to the internal struggle when it comes to AI music... I write lyrics (currently as a hobby, would love to make it as a career) and have never been able to afford getting an instrument or lessons on how to play. I've always wondered "Is my writing good enough?" Then I came across Suno... and being friends with many visual artists, I felt like I was betraying their creativity, their humanity and uniqueness by giving the AI a try... but let me tell you... as someone who has always questioned their skill, getting to hear it applied to music made me cry. I'm sure that I'll always have room for improvement, but it gave me something that I've never had when it came to my writing: validation. And maybe even a little bit of hope that I could one day do what I've always dreamed of. Thank you so much for making this video. It makes me feel just a little bit better.

I'm 100% backing the new direction on this channel, man! Your perspective on AI can stand by itself but then you showcase both the pros and cons so well. Keep whatever your on right now up and up! :) it does kinda feel like a cover. I'm sure we would have loved it if we heard the original before but I think that goes for a lot of music, that first listen is everything!

There are singers who use ghost songwritters, so I don't see any problem for using AI (and hardly choosing the lyrics and melody). Without you, AI woudn't be possible to make this music. There's still human willing on AI musics, by using prompts, choosing the right melody and working it. It's your song.

Hey mate. You bought anything offline lately? The person with the local shop that closed down felt the way you do now. You watched a movie on Netflix? The person who owned the video store felt the way you do now. You listened to Spotify lately? The person who owned the CD shop felt the way you do now. You took a photo with your phone lately? The person who owned the camera store who sold and developed the film felt the way you do now. I could go on. It’s the way of things. It sucked for all those people. Learn from their experiences and prepare now for the future. You can recognise it’s happening.

Thank you for your honesty. I don’t know you and never heard your songs prior to this. First of all, I would like to say, how beautiful, and colorful your lyrics are. I don’t see it often anymore. The play on words you showed - one example “ I can see the feeling on your skin” it’s not word for word, you bring the experience to another sensual level. Only a good write/ poet can do it. It was very brave of you to go through this experience with AI. To tell the truth I was super skeptical about this video. I am exited about AI and scared by it. For many reasons. Thank you again for depth of emotions in your lyrics. I will check out your previous works. All the best from California!

Great video dude, I have to say I preferred your version by a million miles. I love the rawness of a human voice. Your voice is brilliant and there is beauty in imperfections.

As a socially awkward person with little to no musical talents. But is always singing and writing new songs these AI's have given me a way to hear my music that has been trapped in my head.

50 years writing music and I am totally for AI to assist in writing music. We have all been promoted to Producer now. It's all about what you think sounds great. There is no turning back from music AI generation. It is another tool in the box just like Autotune has been for decades. Let's not talk about all the sampling that has been going on without dispute.

Listening to AI I thought 'what a beautiful song' - then you sang it and it made me cry. That's the difference I guess. Its a gorgeous song and I'm so pleased to have heard you sing it. Thank you so much. Tasmania, Australia xxx

The way she sang “You’re part of me I know it” was so gut-wrenching. That hit pretty hard

movie; I robot: will smith interviews robot (Sonny) will: "can you write a symphony? can you turn a canvas into beautiful art" Sonny "Can you?" We're doomed

Love it this stuff. I'm so involved and curious about this evolution! Really loved you talking about this.

I didn‘t expect how your version would hit me. Beautiful. This is the first video of yours I see and I don‘t know you at all. This shows me - AI will never replace live-music. And it makes me happy. Thanks for that

I remember when I was a little kid hearing the very first synthesizer and wondering just where music was going in the future, and I imagined being able to put some electrodes on your head and be jacked into a computer that blasts out the music as you think it. I'm 67 now and I've told my childhood vision to dozens of my musician friends which of course were written off as pure fantasy. Even I considered it to be Star Trek-ish with a little bit of Twilight Zone. But after watching this vid I now think my vision is not too far off the horizon.

It's kind of sad. Music is such a fundamentally human thing, I don't know how I will feel when one day a famous artist releases an ai album and it is better than anything they have done themselves. Because that will happen eventually and it feels like a profound loss to me.

What we think of it is our choice. I have had lyrics in my head for decades, but I don't write music or sing as good as you. I recently discovered an app that allows me to put in my lyrics and it gives it a beautiful song and a voice. More than once, I have thrown my song in the trash because the app does not get what I am trying to do. But more often it gives me something beautiful that I want to share. I think that is a good thing. If nothing else, I can now listen to the songs in my head in a way I really enjoy. Good video, I relate very much and enjoyed it.

I listened to both the Ai version and your singing several times. First off, the lyrics are truly beautiful so congrats on your song writing chops. Also, your voice has a nice clear tone. Both versions are great, however, when sung with the female (Udio Ai) voice, it actually evoked a more emotional response, maybe because the voice is so tender and sweet. It's amazing how Udio has been able to accurately capture perfect intonation and phrasing but the voice still has a very slight synthetic sound, but very slight. Yes, Ai music is definitely the future because it's so incredibly good and it will at the very least be used by singers and musicians to come up with creative ideas. It's interesting how when each new technology is introduced at first users are accused of not creating 'authentic' music. But for years the music industry has been using synthetic drum tracks, midi instruments, auto tune, quantizing beats after they were recorded, adding a ton of synthetic effects in a DAW when mixing and mastering tracks ... yet for the next few years musicians who use will be ostracized to a certain degree. If we don't blink an eye or feel guilty when using all the synthetic tools offered by modern DAW's ... then when you think about it, there's not really any reason to feel guilty about being an early adopter of Ai music. The very same thing happened in art, when digital painting tools were introduced, painting with Wacom tablet and digital painting software, they were told their art was not real art, they were banned from posting their work to a lot of websites. But then years later, the majority of companies producing art for video games, character design, concept artists and background painters for films, etc. were all digital artists because the art was equally beautiful to traditionally painted art and it could be produced much faster, within hours instead of weeks which resulted in shorter timelines, lower project cost and greater overall revenue. The exact same thing will happen with Ai music, it's going to be used whether we like it or not. The good thing is that it's quickly becoming so incredibly good that creative people will no doubt be able to 'sculpt' it to match the concept they have in their imagination, and can then upload it into their DAW (the latest version of Logic Pro can now separate stems into separate tracks) ... so the musician can then continue to hone the song to their exact vision.

When people started using synthesizers to produce sounds, did they announce to everyone, all the time, that they didn't actually use an orchestra? When people started using software programs to help them write and produce music, did they announce to everyone, every time, that they didn't sit down with pen and paper and write out every note by hand and then hire a full team of musicians to produce the sounds? Of course not. Ai is a tool. It's a new tool and, some day, it will be very commonly used. The song is yours. Ai is one of your tools. Stop torturing yourself for making good music with good tools.

I absolutely LOVE this song and the lyrics, and would love to hear the full version done with the various mistakes and glitches cleaned up, such as the one in the pronunciation of “for-or-ever”, that “lookin” that’s in your eyes, the omitted word “time”, and the last note should be louder, with vibrato and held long as in your sung version.

I like that this video was honest and not rage-baiting because the topic was AI. That song was beautiful and illustrates how AI can be a useful creative tool.

A.I. can be a friend and, at the same time, propably the most wonderfull tool and helper humanity has ever created / discoverd. If we just treat it like that. Bashar says (quote from memory): "A.I., you will discover, is creating ways for you to talk to your higher selfs.". I think you saying "This is MY lyrics and these are MY emotions and it sings it back to me in a way that really speaks to ME" is a hint, in my opinion. Thank you for the video. Much love.

Thank you for making this I discovered the same thing! I use Suno (In think its actually better understanding emotion in lyrics). I can write lyrics that are deeply personall and get many ideas for songs quickly. point #1 I find one the really resonates and build off of it for a full song. IMO its not Radio Ready, due to fidelity and digital artifects (for now) BUT the 'meat and potatoes are there. I could take it to my band say "yo! here's are next album!" Lets just reverse engineer it and add some 'human nuance". I estimate this can decrease the process time from maybe a year to 2 months for a full set of music. So, that's cool but I found a couple observation and I like to know your thoughts. One, melody is just a tool. Even lyrics is a tool. Its like paint. Its like clay. Can an artist paint digitally, with digital paint? can the make a 3D model without clay? The output is the idea and the visceral response by the viewer/listener/recipient of that art. Udio and Suno can not in any way write anything worth listing to without the help of an idea. So don't feel guilty that they just help make your ideas become a reality faster, thats just how its been since the first monkey used a rock to kill its dinner. If anything this leads to more ideas faster, and the cream will always rise to the top. So musicians/artists will need to evolve to make things that don't 'Sound/look like Ai'. IMO art has been stagnant for the past 20+ years. Maybe this will give it the kick in the pants to do something new. point #2 i've noticed an interesting phenomenon. People who make their music LIKE their music. I cannot stop listening to the tracks I make. I'm not sure (or care) if other people like. But I like it. And thats interesting we are taking the artist out the loop. We are creating our own art. We don't need to rely on an outside perspective to resonant with personal thoughts and ideas anymore. kinda like an amatuer painter he keeps their own painting in their office. They love it for intrinsic reasons. So its almost a new medium. And hopefully in the future, we might be balancing our joy of new improved art and our personal creations.

You singing it brings more feelings, the depth emotions brings out can’t be created. Ai is too perfect

Thank you so much for your honesty, it's much needed in this type of content. Your perspective was so eye opening for me. Again, thank you!

As a musician myself, I have had several conversations recently on RU-vid about such problems. Sadly all I have to offer, is that it is already too late to ponder on your questions. As you say yourself, you may use AI again. I have vowed never to use AI in any of my music. I will always write and perform without a single note or letter/word from AI. Your song writing by the way, is superb.

Wow - first time I've seen your channel. This is just amazingly great, honest, compelling. You 100% wrote the lyrics, and your collaborator Udio wrote the melody and chord progressions - with guidance and some iteration. The result is really beautiful. I don't know what to think of this either, it's happening so incredibly fast. As others have said, hearing and watching you perform it is the best way to experience the song. Performance has already become the bread and butter for artists for many years, as they collect pennies from streaming services but those outlets draw attendance to live performances. Your video is the most impactful "sh*t just got real" moment I've experienced to date!

As an artist and a programer some companies are working on replacing people with AI. For artist who make their living on their art this is a scary time. For those that care do your due diligence and support our community so people can thrive on what they love doing.

Yours is way better than AI. And although AI helps in almost anything now, it still can't surpass the nuances only human beings can generate. Please create more music, and sing more songs.

People aren't realizing the potential to grow as an artist. If you write your songs with AI, you will learn all new kinds of techniques, chord progressions, styles that you can later use when you write on your own.

Ultra processed music to enjoy to whilst savouring the ultra processed fast food.

The main difference I recognise between these two versions were my goosebumps as you started singing. I was listening to the ai version and quite not had these but as you started to sing… I even had tears in my eyes. That’s what the ai version hasn’t given to me.

Anyone who used UDIO would know that it isn't easy to create a consistent song, not to mention the lyrics and prompt, lots of cherry-picking and your post-production efforts. You do deserve this song as the creator.

I think youre wrong when you say "it's not my song", to me it's 100% yours. And don't get me wrong, Adele's songwriters and many others have been using software for over a decade to generate the best melodies and nobody cares about that. Beautiful song bro, almost made me cry.

I watched your video with intrigue and have read many comments, all very thought provoking and moving. Thank you for sincerity. I have played music and worked on my skills for roughly 40 years. Music is so often a career of luck. Gear, recording professionally- it’s expensive to get singers, musicians, engineers. These past two months I have been collaborating with Suno and Udio. My lyrics, then often I lay down my own tracks in logic pro down in a completed ai song. I turn master with AI. Could never get the quality before. Now I can. I also prompt it with my own 30 sec of playing then use it to build a song around. It’s really fantastic. I would never have thought of so many ideas that it comes up with and I am very creative. The AI app eventually gets an amazing version of my lyrics and uses my playing input. But what lacks is the real vibe, the synergy between musicians, the spontaneity of playing as a group. Or adding one’s own tracks to the AI songs to make it more yours. I think this is an amazing way of trying song ideas in almost real time then building on that. Is funny, iI have a song in my head all the time and I hear these AI songs in my head that I collaborated with it to make. The songs stick. But they aren’t real! Or are they? It’s totally confusing but really blows me away. Until a huge solar flare knocks it all out we are in for a wired and weird ride.

wow i though i was the only one blown away, you song was done fantastic, in my case same thing i can write music but i cant play it so the ai doest for me as well i made 400 songs in 1 month and i have them now on my channel no need for a band all my feelings and emotions combined with AI

In the book "The City and The Stars" by Arthur C. Clarke, humanity is so advanced that art is created by projecting the imagination into reality, a "hologram" type of thing that you can tweak and resize until it seems perfect. The idea is that the advanced technology is enabling humanity to fully express itself in the ways that it desires. For people to truly express themselves with the depth that they wish. I see this as another manifestation of that. The song IS yours because it's as you would have wanted it expressed if only you had all the mental knowledge and resources to create this idea exactly as such. We as humans are limited, but with the ai library that combines all human knowledge, we can actually find ourselves from the outside. That's one perspective at least.

I really loved this video. And I appreciate your insights. With all respect, I would like to provide my thoughts on the topic after a year of using, manipulating, and breaking this kind of technology. First... Dude! What the hell are you even talking about? I thought your version of the song was absolutely inspired. Just stunning. Your version of the song is so much more three dimensional than the initial concept the ai gave you, and you can tell when you listen to it. It's stunning. Your use of words, and the feelings, it hits me as a listener in a way the ai version doesn't and can't. The AI gave you a concept draft for the song that you liked. You used it, improved on it, and made something beautiful. That's you. You did that. You controlled the machine, you brought something new into existence that did not and could not exist before. Period. You are an artist, the ai is just a screwdriver that works with the screws you give it. Nothing more, nothing less. There is nothing to feel bad about here. That song was yours when you wrote it, it's yours now. Okay, so where the melody came from. It came from your lyrics and prompts. If you wanted to control the machine more tightly by adding chords and keys, you could, and it would work. Just make sure you're in manual mode, and that any annotation like that is going to need to be at the beginning. Also keep in mind that the machine routinely mixes up C and E and D and B, and A and G, because it's not really designed to do this. Ai's are great for concepting songs, and they're fantastic tools to use during the songwriting process. It gives you something to play off of when you're writing lyrics that wasn't possible before. The thing people misunderstand about ai's is the thinking that they're somehow like copy machines. They're not. They're learning machines. They don't copy. They figure things out. There's often a sense of deja vu that comes from musical ai compositions. Ran into that yesterday. But in general, unless you're intentionally hacking or abusing the machine, it's not going to pull out melodies that already exist. It's learned how to make melodies, by learning the science of music and genre. That's what ai's do. Visual ai works the same way.

The biggest problem i have with AI is that art has always been about creativity. About using what we have in mind and create it. The joy of learning the skill amd getting better and better in expressing yourself.

Love this honesty. Thank you for sharing.

You haven't seen anything yet - wait until BCI is integrated and the music is extracted directly from and for your brain.

At 7:05 you say you "cannot do it better", and this hit me quite like a brick... Some of us don't have the vocals (or the training) to sing our written lyrics, hell not all of us have the DAW programs (nor the money to invest in one or the time to learn a free one). This tool enables us transform the lyrics we write ourselves into something tangible, something we can show others and go "yes I can music, here is what I can lyrically spit out", but on the other hand most people don't see it that way, and condemn us for even thinking of using AI, even as a tool, a jumping point, or even a demo to show off our skills in a specific slot within the song-making process... Thank you for the video, I hope we feel comfortable sharing our lyrics in the future...

I’m a musician and music producer. Your version is way better and had more dynamics in the vocal phrases and voice tone. The emotion behind those words came across better for me. Your imperfections are real and perfect and I connected with that. Live music is the way … are you sure you’re not an AI generated image? I would totally freak out if you were! lol! Great vid. Thanks.

I don't know what the other songs you heard before this one sounded like. But congratulations on choosing this one. It's incredibly beautiful. Congratulations on the lyrics and please pass on my congratulations to everyone involved in the production. Like the singer (Udio), the arranger (Udio), the musicians (Udio), the Mixing and Mastering Engineer (Udio) and everyone else. Haha. You sing very well too. 😉

This is a dangerous game man) don't go that way, it'll burn you out. Nothing but emptiness that's where you'll find yourself at the end, if you'll continue to use that shit. It doesn't matter who will use it in the future, just remember why you're a musician, what makes you write your music again and again, it's because it makes you happy, no happiness can come out of this, and by the way you're training it to write better lyrics by doing this, tomorrow someone will generate a song that'll sound lyrically like you. Art is a human thing! Let's save it as it is)

Loved your voice man. Loved the words and feelings as well

Something similar happened to me, I wrote a song and used Suno to create the music and one of the outputs just hit me, but I noticed that there were parts where I felt needed a few adjustments, instead of going directly from C to Am I added an in between E7 and felt kind of right, and, even thouth the melody fit the lyrics, I felt like I could just make a few tweaks to make it better. And now, I have to admit, that feel it like "my song" almost entirely even though most of the work was made by an AI tool. Great video, I am with you.

Thank you for the wonderful information. I enjoyed the AI version of your song, but I want to honestly say your own voice and guitar version was beautiful and touching. Please continue playing your personal music and publish it from your heart if you so wish! It is perfect from you and your heart comes through completely!

Lovely song and I quite enjoyed your performance of it. I’m pretty sure the AI was trained on Pheobe Bridgers. It’s been a while since I listened to her stuff, but my recollection tells me that’s her voice and much of her style of composition. The AI version probably wouldn’t seem out of place slipped into a Pheobe Bridgers playlist. If you wind up hearing from her, I hope it all goes well! But I’ve subscribed to hear more of what YOU have to offer.

A month ago I'd have just shrugged my shoulders at the idea. But recently someone I am extremely close to and collaborated with online passed away very unexpectedly. I was in shock and couldn't figure out how to process what I was feeling in a way that felt satisfying. I write, I do graphics work and some 3D rendering, I do website design... I love music. I can only 'kinda' play guitar and couldn't confidently write a song and record it. So I wrote a poem. The poem was personal and would have been cool to post all by itself but, I was researching different ways to make 'just a poem' stand out. So I accidentally figured out the process you explained here. I took my poem, extended it and handed it over to AI on one of those free sites that gives you like 25 renditions in a day. I regenerated it for two days until one version it came up with made me stop and listen. Actually made me tear up. So I spent the next couple of days adding lyrics and telling it to "extend" the song over and over until I got the parts I needed to make it sound like it should based on what I felt. Audio production I can do as a hobby so, I set to work editing and the final version ended out being posted, with the lyrics instead of the original poem. I can't create music, it's not a talent I have or have ever nurtured. But this one time, I created a song that came from me...with a little help. I'm taking that as a win ;) - Awesome video! Thank you for sharing it as I know there are mixed feelings on this topic, rightfully so. In my case, it enabled me to create something that was meaningful in a way I had never thought possible.

In my opinion this is a *perfect* use of AI for music/art. The Artist designs what they want, finds what AI generates, take what they like, cut what they dont, nad make a rendition of it. Both versions are amazing,

Beautiful lyrics you created. Love to you for trying so hard to be a good musician and still work with the AI and see how it fits with your work and today's music. ♥

It's a wonderful thing. When my brother broke several bones in an accident, I created a personal SUNO piece to cheer him up. I wrote a musical for my work mates that became viral in our company as it expresses who we are and why we love worning together. There are already people who have their own wedding songs with tiny details about them. We will all have the soundtracks of our lifes that we always wished for. This makes our lifes much more meaningful, not less. We can express ourselves in ways that we were not avle before. Who cares if its an AI collaboration? It's just another novelty like auto tune that we will quickly get used to. And I suspect that it will spur our creativity because humans will want to sound different.

9:08 I highly appreciate the authenticity of your video. We never met so far on RU-vid. I'm a fellow creator from Hamburg and I just stumbled upon your video that pulled me in and exactly this minute here is to me the key point of artificial intelligence. When I invested in that topic it was back in 2017 right after the South Korean Go player Lee Sedol was beaten by a machine AlphaGo and later AlphaGo Zero. That impressed me so much since what he said was I learned the game of Go in a completely different way playing against the machine and that taught me something about life. I don't remember the quote exactly but this attitude to me was a complete new thing. From what I see from you and what I hear from you this is how we have to think about this technology. It will teach us something about ourselves and we have to figure a way as creatives to collaborate and utilize this powerful tool. It's not a final answer it's a moving target but anyhow keep going. That was a very nice stop to watch your video here on a Friday afternoon. Thanks a lot. Cheers ✊

Great song that you wrote there buddy. it's your creation!! as you know you went through many itterations of the song to get to what you like. It's yours. We are all uniquly created and gifted to recognize our sound no matter who we are collaborating with. It's yours.. Soon no one will care how the song came to be, whether you played all the instruments, got a band to play or used A.I. Because at the end of the day it's what resonates with the people we are trying to connect with. I play a mutiple of instruments, Produce, Sing, write songs. To be honest, nobody cares how the song came to be. Nobody cares about how I skillfully I laid down a guitar track or solo or played cool sounding chords. What they care about is how it made them feel. So, If I write lyrics and A.I. helps with the production then so be it. It's mine when I find what reonates with me!!. If I use A.I. as a starting point and go from there, It's mine. Thank you A.I. for helping me. Next!!!

I just want to compliment your recording setup. Sounds very professional. Zero background noise. Great job. Song is great, too, haha.

You can imagine yourself standing in a dark room with other people you can't really see, though you know they are there. All of you are staring at a terrifying, ghostly, eternal marauder. He was here long before you arrived and will be here after you're gone. His name strikes fear in the hearts of all humankind. People spend half a lifetime driving him away, and then the other half searching the vast corners of the universe, begging and pleading for his return. His name is "Change". I am thrilled by your courage, Jonny. Continue to press the walls until they come tumbling down.

but seriously dude...i am a professional composer and performer (more like classical experimental styles) and of course i would prefer your version 10 times out of 10. Still the fact you basically learned the music from the audio, which was ai generated, gives me creepy goose bumps. The moment the ai generated audio will start to really sound like your version, i will be seriously scared

The human version of this (your) song gave me goosebumps, The Ai version makes me want to build a time machine that can only go back.

Go human go!!! The emotion rings through! Good song played and sung by you. Thanks for your honesty 🎶

Dj's don't go around telling people they made it on a computer. Its just a new tool like a guitar or a computer. Most music is done on computers now. All hit songs are made with auto tune and synthezizers. It's a new tool that's all. If you wrote it, put it together and produced it, it's yours. It's an idea tool.

The real eye-opener for me about ai music came when I watched a youtube video showcasing a few songs made using Udio. One of them was titled Carolina O... and to my ears, it was achingly beautiful and emotional. This came as a big surprise and prompted me out of my songwriting retirement after over 20 years. The majority of ai music I'd seen presented was about bodily functions, ramen noodles, pokemon or had been representing genres like hip hop and death metal, but here was this beautiful song, and it made me want to try again. Thankfully I found, that it is indeed possible to get beautiful results out of ai, so emotional that it grips me, like "real music" I've known in the past. Udio has the upper hand in this area compared to Suno, since you can get extremely complex arrangements with a lot of little touches you'd normally never expect from ai. My brother asked me, if I feel as "proud of" or "connected to" my ai creations as I used to do to my old songs, made the traditional way, and... I never answered, cause I honestly find that question extremely difficult to answer. Is our ai-music really ours? Or should all tributes go to the ai? I think I'm starting to arrive at the conclusion, that it feels like having a co-writer. We both depend on each other, and I think this will be reflected in the way we see songwriting credits in the future. We've all seen credits like "/trad." for new lyrics to a traditional tune or vice versa, in this way, we'll probably see credits like "/ai" in the future. I'm sure the world will continue to get flooded with songs about buttholes, farting and noodles, but there will also be serious songs of great beauty and - dare I say - emotional value.

I like both versions bro. Art is what you made us feel through whatever medium you chose. Sucks that current legal framework doesn’t let you own it, because for me, it’s yours, it’s your mind, and hands that crafted it for us. I would never have made the same stuff with the same tools. Beautiful stuff. Cheers.

I have also written more than 15 songs with limited tools, supplemented by virtual instruments in A DAW, and all of my songs are already on DSPs and RU-vid now. However, when I did the same thing as you did-uploading my song lyrics to Suno-I was suddenly surprised by a version of the song that deeply touched my heart. Is this a blessing or a threaten for musicians in the future? My feelings are the same as yours. The difference is that you are a professional musician, while I am just an amateur musician.

Provided the musician has a lot of input in the creation process then using ai is a collaboration and not cheating. I'm getting beautiful results from udio. The sort of music I would make anyway if my current limitations were removed.

Your version had me at 4:20. I LOVE your version, but not so much the first which had great lyrics but didn't break my heart. Your version is absolutely the best! Why so modest? Your ability to express emotion is the key

😯wowwwwwww, YOU wrote that??? YOU wrote those lyrics!???? Ahhhhhhh maaaaaazing 💥 chills - your work gives me CHILLS!!!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

Everything you said is my exact experience. Now have 30 songs and more on the way.

Sincerity is the truth...and I can feel the difference ! It's huge ! Thanks for the experience and example !

Fantastic honesty and fantastic point! Mid 2024 - from this date onwards how can any musical artist protect themselves from the accusation "Oh I bet they used AI to come up with that". We are not talking about synthetic instruments or advanced editing / mixing technology, we are talking about the ESSENCE of a song being generated by the machine rather than the artist! This is what is new here. Im not a musician - I only have one as a friend - still my stomach is turning over. If the sacred, complex, soulful art of human composed music is already being colonized by AI, surely nothing produced by a human in any field is safe.

I love how the AI sings the word “forever”….

Great song - thanks Jonny. As for AI - well, we're getting in to chest height waters now and the sky is darkening - no telling what's out there over the water.

Your lyrics and the song are ace. So good! Great content, you have yet another subscriber 😊

Yeah, I've played with this program quite a lot in the last month. I used my own lyrics - writing them as "Verse" "Pre-Chorus" "Chorus" etc.. just making stuff up on the spot. I tried this method until I heard something I liked, then built on that. I'd later digitally edit certain takes after the fact. The results were pretty good. Sound quality is good (still needs work). What is fun is you can remove the voice with another program (sometimes it phrases things a bit awkwardly) and then re-sing it to the Udio arrangement or do what you did here. In any event, I think songwriters benefit by working with A.I. Let's face it - it's not going away and will only get better. Music is music. If it sounds good and makes you feel something, I see that as a positive. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_bCvsgfbxcs.html

Thanks, great to hear your reactions. I'm a traditional artist, programmer and AI researcher. I've scanned 10x 60 page sketch books, and trained an AI with them. To see generated artwork that is mine, and yet not mine, is the strangest feeling.

AI music is great, over time we will be saturated with generated content but then content by humans will become more valuable and desired! I preferred your version btw.

The lyrics you wrote are simply amazing. And I agree that the ai has provided you a great base for setting up a great song. And even to create a finished version. As I keep saying ai is a great assistant

I prefer your rendition. Yes, there could be a song out there with the same melody which the algorithm has picked up on and used to piece together the final recording, but that is true for humans as well. Some melodies are aurally pleasing, and arguably, every nice melody has already been written in some form or another, albeit with the elements arranged differently. For me, the AI version is indeed a nice song, but there's an impact that comes from a person singing their own words. Technology in music will never go away, and this march toward AI music production is just going to keep gathering pace, but while a system can emulate the expression and emotion, it still has to be trained on real world music, which ultimately comes back to human musicians and songwriters. I would argue that the emotion and expresssion is owed just as much (if not moreso) to those musicians who created the corpus on which the AI was trained as it does to the learning models arranging them into the final production.

That was absolutely beautiful. Both versions. And this is a strange place to be. Do we still need music studios? Name brand bands? Music that must be bought? Now that anyone can make their own music. Or is this the turning point where everyone can become a musician without hoping to appeal to a person of power over music. Thus, freeing music to everyone. Supplying beautiful art of sound without some lawyer stating, "That's my client's property. Pay us for its use." I don't think this ends music in any regards. Just tears down the old world walls of control and greed.

Wow. That melody and expression was indeed very nicely written. As you said, it's just...reeeeally good. I LOVE that you presented this, and assessed it, and were fully honest. I needed to hear this, and ponder how I perceive this new approach and how society as a whole should feel about it. (No doubt, btw, this same thing is going to happen with written works of fiction in all genre's). I DO HAVE an observation you might find interesting. As a musician myself (songwriter, fusion soloist), we both know that it takes SO very long for a human to become not only technically proficient on their instrument, but also schooled in Theory sufficiently to create a NEW desirable work. A song that DOES follow some reasonable rule of form that we can follow and enjoy, but which ALSO possesses a chord progression that is unique and unusual whilst being desirable; or maybe that all happens in the melody, which is equally powerful. And like you said, that's what happened here for you! SO where am I going with this thought? Well, one aspect that seasoned musicians will bemoan is that too much "Pop" music of the common person is BORING. It is PREDICTABLE. It lacks that innovation that your heart and mind crave. The song form of today is just SO repeated, over and over and over. Phrases the same length, verses and choruses nauseatingly similar, "nothing new under the sun" is our weary plight. It very well might be the LACK of musical training present in society today for the common person...the loss of the Arts in high school, for example. I don't know. But HERE. All of that knowledge and skill we work SO hard for (decades indeed) has been ingested by AI. It possesses that knowledge, like the depth of playing by Matteo Mancuso, right? Masterful, intriguing, next-level skill is only found in players like Matteo (and certainly others in fusion, or other genre's where skill is displayed). BUT.....Maybe this is a WIN...for a while, at least. Writing better music than most of what is ingested today by the majority of society. For example, Taylor Swift is a great lyricist. But her songs? We would both likely admit...too predictable. It would be interesting to take a Swift song that is just too dang simple and put it through the same system many times until a truly new work is created. Take a shot at it for us. 🙂

Honest. And you’re right. We have a new computer and arranger in our midst😮

I've used Sudio AI quite a lot, and I've had some amazing, revelatory experiences with it. As a producer and musician for 40 years, with over 80 albums under my belt, I think I have a good handle on what the AI is doing. It's a trick. The song you showcase here is very clever, and it shows off the amazing ability of the AI to hone in on what makes people connect with music. It doesn't matter whether it's 1970s space rock, ambient experimental electronic, pop or country. The AI is distilling down what people find attractive and it's making none of the mistakes that humans might make in an effort to be different and find something new. And that is going to be AI's failing. It can find new things (at least things I've never heard before) but they aren't particularly pleasing to the ear - not like your song here. But that song (for all its attractiveness) is incredibly generic. It's THAT four chord trick again, isn't it - albeit with the addition of the Dm. But it's a chord progression that has been bludgeoned to death. The AI knows that chord progression kills people, and as you were auditioning the Udio output two 33 second clips at a time this is the one you chose. Then the AI runs with it. By this time next year we will be able to see the AI coming a mile off. It'll be perfect and anodyne, and we will see through it immediately, even when it does get (better). [Check out my channel, where all the most recent videos are Udio generated.]

I think you signing off on the melody is a sort of authorship. It passed through the filter of your taste and your direction. Also those lyrics are gorgeous. Incredible work

This proves what I have been saying for decades. Lyrics for most songs are so dumb and simple that even AI can reprodu them.

People who can not sing use autotune. People who can not write use writers. If you see this as a tool it's not very different. Your singing brought tears to my eyes.

8:20 how about perform a duet?

ColdFusion RU-vid just did a video on this very subject!!! Music is going this direction for the future. But your version is better because of your persona projected in song!!! A.I. can't do it ... Just yet but it's coming!!! And as long as we can learn how to use A.I. tools to make songs or take pictures or movies ,new cures against diseases. The future is knocking on the door!! Are we (humans )ready to answer ??? 🚪

In Sweden, where I'm from, one can put % on how much a person attributed to the final version of a melody and lyrics. In this case, you have 100% rights to the lyrics. The melody? 25-50% since you did direct and decide everything from start to finish. If one would attribute it like this and then publish to anywhere, then you're good in my book. As for the versions, the AI-version is not performed by you so you'd not own any rights to that (except the above). If you release your own version, you'd own the rights to that recording fully with the exceptions of the melody as above). That said, wow. Ethical considerations when writing music... Didn't think that would be a thing! :-)

The AI version was beautiful. But when you sang your version and you started slow with the guitar. It felt more human. The way you sang it sounded exactly what it was, the writer singing the song, versus a singer who was given the lyrics. I was playing with an app that writes songs and it I didn't even write the lyrics. I just did a prompt and wrote words about how I felt. The song was amazing. I was kinda ashamed when I shared it with my friends. At first excited and then a little ashamed at how they were saying "wow you can write lyrics like that??". No I can't, I just bitched to an AI about how I was feeling with maybe 5-6 words and it wrote this amazing ballad. I agree with you that this changes a lot. But I also love video games. The end of FFX made me sad as I'm sure it made everyone who played it. The voice actors were real, but the characters were CG characters. There is a scene at the end where Yuna cries. The character was a voice actress, but was art created by real people and maybe other algorithms they used to create it. The point is that it was emotional for me. If you use AI to help you make music and that music makes someone feel an emotion, whether sad or happy, isn't that what art should do?