Only the reddit crowd, most of them comes from reddit because people posted a ragebait post there about Passion for Sound which started a witch hunt. Toxic place, spare yourself and don't ever set foot there. Echo chamber strong, no discussion only karma farming about what is already approved by the echo chamber. Speaking from personal experience here. lol
I don't expect everyone to like me or my content - in fact, I'd be worried if that happened. It is a shame that some people can't just respectfully disagree and/or just click away and watch something else.
All RU-vid reviewers are Marmite (sorry Lachlan, Vegemite). Some folks love 'em. Some hate' em. What I don't understand (well I do, they are dicks) is why people want to broadcast their dislike all over the Internet.
Wow what a cool concept for a headphone driver. Thank you letting us know they are mainly for mixing and mastering, so people are not expecting a Harmon curve. I wonder how a MM500 would compare.
I’ve heard this headphone and compared it thoroughly to my zmf verite open + audeze lcd 4z. In my opinion it is like combing the pros and cons of both headphones in a way with how it presents sound. Smoother than normal neutral tuned dynamics and planars, amazing mid bass, sub bass is accurate - definitely not suited for bassheads, treble I wouldn’t say is extremely accurate due to how it presents sound. I’d call it an end game headphone for some or at least a genre specific end game headphone for many.
Thanks for sharing! My hedd became the replacement for my damaged 4z. I used to eq a bit more subbase in the 4z and then started to turn up the volume more and more to get "into" the music. With the hedd Im very careful with the subbase. They can move a lot of air and on some tracks it gets too much for me. Also I dont have the urge to increase the volume anymore. To me the hedd seems to sound and resolve no worse on normal levels. What I am thinking about is a lokius to play around with different colourations though...
@@tdfmike3915 thanks for sharing, i used the one I had when my 4z was damaged. Had to fork out 500 ish to Audeze for driver replacements. What I would recommend using if you have a windows or mac as a digital source is a plugin named canopener loaded into equalizer apo. The plugin isn’t crazily expensive and is the only dsp plugin to date that doesn’t degrade the audio quality. The plugin lets you emulate crossfeed, mono bass and room reflections. It was originally designed for audeze headphones but it works well with any accurate tuned headphone. Makes any headphones i’ve tried it on sound more realistic when you get the config right
Nice video- I have heard these pretty extensively out of a Zahl HM1 amp and a RME ADI-2/4 Pro Se, compared directly to my LCD-5 and a Arya Organic. First the good- These are made very nice and built well. They were super comfortable for me. Now the bad- The bass without EQ is not good at all, and if you fix it with a bass shelf the bass sounds poofy and soft. Overall this sounds a lot like an estat and for me, it sounds too much like an estat, as I am not into the estat sound, as it lacks note weight and the decay is not natural sounding to MY EARS. I think if you are a person who enjoys an estat like sound signature, these may be for you.
Excellent review! I learned about the heddphone 2 and via comparisons, more about several other headphones! Very nicely done Lachlan! I happened to listen to the hedd 2 ( & hedd 1 ) at SoCal CanJam last year:) I found it at first on the first rig, unfortunately not totally sure maybe a smsl model? Sounded detailed but not very dynamic. They had a Lina Stack handy and with that amp in particular, the hedd 2 rose to it’s abilities, more alive sounding, more full, more engaging. It struck me that these benefit with some power, and with that warrant the price of admission. The Arya Organics on the rig at hand ( orange and high powered, sorry ) almost over powered? The engagement was clearly there, but bass balance could overflow the mids and treble for me. My impression was that the amp was likely too much in this case pairing. But i found the organic to have a lot of potential for a good price point! I’ve heard the og utopia, it is pairing dependent for me too: a few years ago the utopia was all around canjam, oddly with a Chord Dave i heard quite a bit of grain, but i’m grain averse. With a smoother rendering the utopia sounds amazing to me. But the dave experience sent me hunting :) Rare that I’ve heard a few headphones in one comparison! Oh and the Verite opens, love these. I think it is key you brought forward the coloration distinction! So important! I agree with how you hear coloration on the headphones I’ve heard in this comparison. 👍 👍👍👍
I think when comes to headphones and iems you should rate them at different volumes. Because we all know that at highers volumes drivers with no air can get to much with highs. I have to tune all my iem because i listen at high volume. Then at medium volumes they bleed. At higher. Perfect . Maybe if you have a pic with a phone there and show the rate at low,medium and high volumes. One thing i found out, is when i tune all my iem for the same tune. Then i can judge how good the driver is. Some they thicker like i like and they well control at higher volumes and some not.
I bought them as a replacdment for my broken lcd-4z as they go for 1,4 open box... I cant A/B them any more but in terms of resolution and speed they should come close. Better than my lcdx and hd800 at least. Now as im a fan of tubes and analog eq I can do my coloration on the spot. I suddenly lost my desire to spend even more money on headphones. Maybe a better amp next😂
That makes total sense, Mike. The HP2s are easily a TOTL headphone from a resolution perspective so adding a nice amp to bring the character you want is all that you need for a perfect sound!
I owned HEDDPhone 1 previously and other headphones. In terms of sound quality, I like it more than the HD800S, Arya Stealth, and LCD-X. It was my favorite one but it was too heavy. I leave all of them for Susvara.
I own the heddphone 2 and don't listen to my others except to listen to youtube videos. For me the others are to colored. Best money I have spent on a headphone.
Great video and I learned something here. I am curious to know the “new” you after your “quit” video. How is this video different in style than your previous videos? I liked your videos as well before the “quit” video and I am having a hard time seeing a difference. Maybe other than that the videos are a bit shorter. Love your keyboard btw.
My new videos (since around mid May) are a bit tighter on timing, have a different editing style, use music more and a little more humour/personality than in the past (where appropriate). If you're not seeing a difference though, that's great - so long as you're enjoying the videos, that's all that matters.
@@PassionforSound I see. Yes I’m very much enjoying them. I love when you show what albums and genre when you mention the artist. That way I’ve discovered new music I never heard about.
So long as we need magnets to power the drivers, it'll be hard to drop the weight too far on larger diaphragm designs. These are a little heavier than some, but they've done a lot of work to reduce the chassis weight.
I wonder how these compare to the HD600, they have a somewhat similar tonal balance so I’m wondering if this is like the better version of the HD600 albeit with slight changes
I don't have the 600s here to compare, but you're probably onto something there. The bass is more extended, but there's also a little less in the mid-bass area so they're going to sound a little different, but along the same lines I think.
@@PassionforSoundyeah I think the HEDDphone TWO has a flatter and more totally balanced response than the HD600 personally. More even overall than just mid range. Sort of similar with what the newer Audeze headphones have, a little more midrange presence with a rise into the pinna gain region with a more subtle mid treble response as compared to harman but not being super recessed or laid back. (I don’t really care for harman lol). I really hope to try some of HEDD’s stuff someday to hear how the AMT affects the sound
It sounds how the tube amp sounds. It's a very transparent headphone with a flat impedance curve so it doesn't interact with the amp, just plays back the signal from the amp.
@@PassionforSound V2 is much lighter in comparison, V1 is 700 + gms, heavy but they have managed to have proper weight distributed to 2-3 hours continuous listening is not an issue
Seriously, you need to give the frowned upon, by reviewers and dare not to review or mention NDH 30 a listen if you're looking for a correct/natural/realistic/proper/uncolored sounding headphone. Review the NDH 30 and you will be a legend.
@@PassionforSound understandable and if only you’re not in AUS I would gladly loan you one, I have both silver and black edition. They do sound naturally proper, non in the frequency range is hyped up and or grabbing for attention. Switching between NDH 30 and my Adam A4V monitors does not introduce any weird sound shifting and frequency swings.
I don't understand the difference between consumer and studio headphones..how is it possible that a consumer pro headphone can't hear what a studio headphone can..I mean is the consumer headphone eating up the music? I like very good sound quality though I don't see myself as an audiophile just want to enjoy the best of the best music reproduction like i am live there. I mad the mistake to buy a sennheizer hd600 it was I guessed it sounded like something was broken..later I heard you need an amplifier for it. I was very shocked at that time to buy a expensive headphone and getting lousy sound...though went for an BeyerDynamic DT990 600 ohm and good soundcard...amazingggg
Being a pro headphone is all about the tuning of these. A mixing tool like these needs to be as neutral as possible to prevent any audio produced with it from having unwanted emphasis or dips at any frequencies. As for the "hearing everything" bit, that's more about the driver they're using and that type of resolution isn't limited to Pro headphones. As an example of the tonalities, your Beyerdynamic headphones have lifted bass and lifted treble which makes them fun to listen to, but would lead to a mix that is lacking bass and treble if they were used as a tonal reference when mixing music.
For the sense of speed and space, they'll be excellent. Tonality is where it gets a little tricky - they won't have the weight and presence of some headphones that have more bass and they have slightly subdued lower treble which some people may find a little veiled so that's where it's tricky.
@@PassionforSound so is this Hedd or HE1kse specific or both? can an amp like Soloist 3x give them a bit of push or are they driver inherited limitation?
Sorry, that's just the HEDDphone 2 and it's their base tuning I'm referring to so nothing to do with amplification. EQ might change that, but I haven't tested.
@@PassionforSound i know right is hard starting here in Melbourne i was looking of buying geshli but no australian website or store i am to scared to buy overseas
I haven't checked the available options on their site lately, but would recommend starting with the Sparkos 33602 or Burson V7 Vivid as those are both excellent.
If resolution was the aim, why didn't you compare it to the similarly priced HE1000SE ?? THAT would be the only comparison that would make sense to really test how well these headphone do what they claim to do... not pick a random 700 USD cheaper headphone which is a VARIATION as in coloration type of the Arya line up which make zero sense whatsoever. Other than that thumbs up on the video as a whole but please DO a follow up with the HEDDphone 2 vs HE1000SE for sure which is the only way to really judge and compare them.
I hadn't updated my database at the time I prepared this so I was looking at the HEKSE as being more expensive. Having compared the Utopias to the HP2, there's no need to revisit the HEKSE because the Utopias are more revealing and the HP2 match the Utopia. Combine that with a more balanced tonality and the HP2 is the better reference headphone IMO. (This isn't a knock on the HEKSE - they serve a different purpose)
@@PassionforSound that is really interesting but thanks for the input. Before the HP2, a lot of people like the HEKSE for its resolution/detail/clarity to enjoy their music on.... as it also is neutral as in natural. A violin sounds exactly like it would if you were holding it in your hands for example. Would you say that now the HP2 could be used to enjoy music for the same reasons people used to choose HEKSE ? I'm looking for the most revealing headphone with minimum to no added "salt" BUT I do want to get lost in the music as well and not have my ears pierced/fatigued. Based on this, I assume you would pick the HP2 ?
I definitely think the HP2 could be excellent for that type of sound, but it depends. Some people actually like a bit of colouration without realising it. The HEKSE has some extra bite in the treble that's not natural, but many people love it. On the other hand, the HP2 has a dip in the lower treble that makes them non-fatiguing, but some might feel makes them sound a little veiled (that's not how I perceive them). This is where it gets tricky! I'd choose the HP2 for what you've described, but others might not.
@@PassionforSound thanks for the detailed reply and sorry for the late reply back. I was out of town. I value your opinion a lot which is why I am more confused than ever. But you might be absolutely right. You see, for the longest time I had the HEKSE as my thought to be end game headphone, out of my budget unless I do some economic optic illusions in my yearly expenses... but you got me thinking... Am I looking for the most accurate sound to WORK with an objective sound, for example for mixing and mastering (then the HP2) OR am I also looking to get drowned in the sea of auditory bliss? I had not thought of the artificial bite in the treble which is 'coloration' without a doubt. I am confused because I had thought I could do both with the HEKSE... but when I think deeply, I realize that if I am to become an economic magician and then spend 2K on headphones alone... then I'm leaning 80% towards getting Bliss out of them and 20% importance to them being super neutral/accurate. Until now I have used Sennheiser HD560S which are very accurate and neutral but ZERO fun... no bass, no life what so ever. But they seem to also lack the resolution I seek. This headphone journey might be a longer ride than expected to find what I seek. Please allow me to ask 1 question since I now have your attention. The DAC/AMP combo also plays a huge role but I suspect its less subjective compared to headphones... I have Aune S17 Pro and LAiV Harmony as my end game combo in mind... do you any AMP or DAC that can beat either of them in their respective price points or slightly higher? For example, you like the Schiit Mjolnir 3 a lot but how does it compare against the Aune S17 Pro? OR the Harmony DAC versus the Yggdrasil you like? OR if Im to go a more budget friendly route with the Fiio K19 to also have hardware EQ and just EQ my headphones to be more accurate using software or even to be more/less Fun and just be more versatile. OR forget my brain and go with my heart and the Topping DX9 purely on aesthetics haha because it reminds me of that Mcintosh look but instead of blue, a warmish orange vibe. Sets the mood for me for sure :) Would really love your input on those options. I also just subscribed to your channel as well. Didn't notice I wasn't subscribed... thought I had done so long time ago. Thanks in advance, all the best!
Great questions and thought processes! The Harmony seems lovely. I have one here now and have briefly listened, but done no in-depth comparisons. In short though, I'd stick with that at the price, I think. With the amp, the Mjolnir 3 is a clear step up from the S17 Pro and the best you can get until approaching Burson Voyager territory (IMO). If you're after sonic bliss as your preference, I'd look at the MJ3 with the Harmony and HEKSE. I think that will be a mighty blissful setup. If you're doing any production/mixing with the HEKSE, just be sure to mix it accordingly so it's got a bit of bite from your chain. That way, it won't be too mellow up top on warmer/smoother chains.
@@PassionforSound yeah I find the air often gets thinner on way to the summit. As in what happened to the sub bass rumble and mid bass slam. Nevertheless I am a recovering basshead who ended up with OG Kennerton Valis, not known for their treble extension.
No succesful audio producer will ever use these. I find AMT drivers very interesting, but producers and musicians generally do not care about tech like this. Speakers are generally dynamic.
They've got plenty of traction. It's never going to be a Sennheiser or Beyerdynamic type of household name brand, but there are lots of audiophiles and music professionals out there using HEDD products, including their very well regarded speakers (which use AMT drivers for the treble).
@@PassionforSound Hmm I heard that people aren't buying it and there doesn't seem too much going on on head-fi. I'm not worried about them selling enough though, heard Apple bought a lot of their units. I wanted to save up for one, but there always seems something in the way. Did you get your hands on one of DMS' Omegas?
It's always hard to properly understand the scale of uptake of products based on online discussions because it's influenced by lots of other factors. Some types of products generate more discussion than others. I haven't got any current access to the DMS headphones
