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"You Can't Fight City Hall AND The Railroad" NYS&W Utica NY Branch 

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Back in the late 1860s, residents of Utica NY's Schuyler Street waged a spirited fight against the City of Utica and the railroad regarding plans to lay tracks down the middle of their street. As you see here, they lost and trains continue to shake foundations of houses all up and down Schuyler St nearly 160 years on.
This video opens with a short New York, Susquehanna & Western freight heading south down Schuyler Street. Next, after switching off the bulkhead flat, the train is observed toughing its way up Paris Hill's 1.8% grade in Clayville, approximately 10.5 miles south of Utica.
Still on Paris Hill, the next scene is at the Summit Road crossing in Cassville.
The video concludes with scenes in Paris Station, a stone's throw away from Paris Hill's summit.
As always, the assistance of Witold, my faithful canine companion, in the making of this video is gratefully acknowledged.

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2 ноя 2023

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Комментарии : 71   
@Lima_Golf_Bravo
@Lima_Golf_Bravo 8 месяцев назад
Imagine being new to the area and you hear that bell while you’re inside your house. You run outside thinking it’s the ice cream man.
@timothytoolman927
@timothytoolman927 9 месяцев назад
Greetings from Whitesboro, N.Y.
@paulsmith5398
@paulsmith5398 8 месяцев назад
Love how you used the term, "they got railroaded"! About those feral cats trying to use up all 9 lives.......i do HO scale modeling, my cat has, on occasion, jumped up on the train table, 42 inches above the floor, sat on the track, only to quickly jump off when a train approaches......i guess he doesnt want to get run over by an HO train 🙄🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣😼😸😲😨😱❗
@bobwas4066
@bobwas4066 9 месяцев назад
Great Video!! I lived in Utica for many years, I enjoy seeing the NYS&W!
@cmdrflake
@cmdrflake 9 месяцев назад
Greetings from Tonawanda NY.
@jimdep6542
@jimdep6542 9 месяцев назад
Thanks again for being out there and filming. It makes me home sick for NY state, but it also helps me feel connected.
@StormySkyRailProductions
@StormySkyRailProductions 9 месяцев назад
Wow, that was so cool, love street running! (Dave).
@williammiller2750
@williammiller2750 9 месяцев назад
Another fine video from Morrisville NY.
@backalleyrailroading2835
@backalleyrailroading2835 9 месяцев назад
That is so cool coming right through the neighborhood... Can do some front porch railfanning there. Love the video !!!
@debbievogt9881
@debbievogt9881 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing
@wolfgangpfeilergartenbahnd6530
@wolfgangpfeilergartenbahnd6530 9 месяцев назад
A fantastic video, it's always interesting when the train runs through the city. Thanks for showing and best regards from Germany
@tomy.1846
@tomy.1846 8 месяцев назад
Beautiful shots!!! Thanks for sharing!
@annettelaurence5716
@annettelaurence5716 9 месяцев назад
Brave cat!!😳
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
I think that's the same cat that ran in front of the train in this video (black with white paws): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3E05tDTW7t0.html
@lie-berry
@lie-berry 9 месяцев назад
It's kinda funny to see drivers weighing their options and quickly deciding the train can have the whole road to itself. In all fairness, tho, it has to be a little scary to be peaceably driving along and suddenly realizing there's a locomotive cruising the same street you are.
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
Seeing a train in the middle of the road is old hat for most residents of West Utica. However, it's quite a different story for drivers viewing the train occupying the road for the first time!
@jmcfarlandjr
@jmcfarlandjr 9 месяцев назад
That's just absolutely cool.
@sondrabowers4837
@sondrabowers4837 8 месяцев назад
There’s something about train whistles. Awwww Witold, you look comfy. R&R & Witold, bundle up weather is getting colder by the day.
@Charles_Sweitzer
@Charles_Sweitzer 9 месяцев назад
We have the same setup here in York, PA. A set of rail road tracks in the middle of the street on Pershing Avenue.
@wilber53
@wilber53 8 месяцев назад
I have a lot of stories of going up and down on Schuyler St. with the trains.Took off a few mirrors on some parked cars.
@brazenzebra
@brazenzebra 9 месяцев назад
Nice! I'm gonna binge watch all your videos one of these days. When the train crosses Oriskany Street near the tower, it's crossing the paved over original Erie Canal. And, when the train finishes its street running at Noyes Street, it's running right next to the paved over Chenango Canal (now the Arterial). I never knew that when I was growing up in Utica.
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
Correct! Glad you enjoy the videos!
@Jordi-Jan
@Jordi-Jan 8 месяцев назад
Seen from Europe, street running trains are a mix of magic and time-space paradox. But someone told me one day that at La Grange KY they were offered to move the tracks out the village and they didn't accept it, despite the fact tant "their" trains are long freighters that take up to 9 minutes to cross, and ring their bells anytime 24 hours. Actually they have different activities on that street, many of them railroad related. Same at Ashland VA, although that's not strictly street running, but crossing the town, they were offered to have insonorizating walls built, which were not accepted, either, because the walls would hide shops and businesses. I dream of travelling to La Grange and Ashland.
@stevenplyler6306
@stevenplyler6306 8 месяцев назад
I was just in Utica on 11-04-2023 on Amtrak trains 48 and 281 !
@ItsjustChris95
@ItsjustChris95 9 месяцев назад
*_Witold looks tired ! Looks like he's ready for a nap._* 😪😪
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
I can assure you he doesn't look so sleepy when the mailman comes a-callin'!
@ernestpassaro9663
@ernestpassaro9663 8 месяцев назад
Used to do street running in Brooklyn New York
@BadgerlandRailVideos
@BadgerlandRailVideos 8 месяцев назад
Love the NYS&W paint scheme, glad one of those is back. Seen a lot of videos (probably some from you) where they were using CSX power on this branch.
@trenamerritt5344
@trenamerritt5344 9 месяцев назад
Always love your videos! Did you see the forklift scoot around you? That was not something you see every day! You and Witold stay well, it's getting colder out, brrrr!!
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
Yes, forklift from McQuade & Bannigan located just behind where I was videoing. Glad you like the videos!
@user-so1mv9po2f
@user-so1mv9po2f 9 месяцев назад
There is something hipnoktic about street running trains
@lesashiminski690
@lesashiminski690 9 месяцев назад
Hey railroad rambler always fun watching trains on NYSW RR. Still hoping one to see line open all the way to Binghamton one day
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
I hear they’re putting new ties and ballast in at Loomis Rd, 2 miles south of Sangerfield. No idea why
@MrChevrolet94
@MrChevrolet94 9 месяцев назад
Now THAT’S a road train!!!!
@RC944jim
@RC944jim 9 месяцев назад
Will the Santa train be in Utica this year? If yes do you know when? Thanks for getting out and catching these trains for us all to enjoy!🤠
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
Yes, go here and check for the Polar Express adirondackrr.com/
@RC944jim
@RC944jim 9 месяцев назад
@@railroadingrambler218 Great thanks for the information! 🤠
@samanthal9114
@samanthal9114 9 месяцев назад
Thats how you pronounce Schuyler?!? I got stuck at the railroad crossing on Oriskany while you filming this late to work. It was like seeing a unicorn in the wild.
@danielmoljr4090
@danielmoljr4090 7 месяцев назад
Love the street running. I am wondering, how often do they have to replace ties since asphalt is on top?
@captainjohn787
@captainjohn787 9 месяцев назад
Hey, wait! That looked like my cat.
@46fd04
@46fd04 9 месяцев назад
Going at that slow speed, I don't think these trains are 'shaking foundations'
@richardsylvanus2717
@richardsylvanus2717 9 месяцев назад
Paris Hill scene very nice.
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
Thank you, that's been a favorite viewing point for me for many years.
@RDC_Autosports
@RDC_Autosports 8 месяцев назад
didn’t they usually build the town around the railroad?
@jasonn4597
@jasonn4597 6 месяцев назад
@6:48 is that crossing bell broken?
@DouglasBarnum
@DouglasBarnum 9 месяцев назад
Been enjoying your videos since I found your channel this year. Question: do the train people blow their horn because they see you filming or they would be doing that anyway because of where you set up? Witold seems to be a fine companion. 😊
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
The engineer almost always is blowing the horn for crossings. Occasionally, I'll get a friendly blast or two directed my way. Witold is indeed a fine companion. He'll turn 10 soon and has been a great rail dog, lol.
@lisabishop6266
@lisabishop6266 9 месяцев назад
I used to run outside w my grandson so he could signal to guys to honk the horn for him!! He got such a kick outta that 😂
@richintalent
@richintalent 9 месяцев назад
How far south do NYS&W trains go now?
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
23 miles Utica to Sangerfield but I hear they're working on the tracks south of Sangerfield now, who knows what's up?
@lisabishop6266
@lisabishop6266 9 месяцев назад
There is a ton of feral cats around there!!! Thats how i got 2 of my cats! Sadly, they dont do trap and neuter around here 😢
@karsten27027
@karsten27027 8 месяцев назад
Would it not be an idea to paint two yellow stripes on the road, marking the width of the train
@williamh.jarvis6795
@williamh.jarvis6795 7 месяцев назад
I can agree to this. Questions are: Who will pay for the durable road line paint (snowplowing issues)? Who will approve of the painting such lines? Just how many feet/inches away from clearing any such railroad equipment? Surely, any such lines will show any driver of their parallel parked vehicles on Schuyler Street just how far in from the tracks that they must park so to protect their vehicles.
@heidebahner4887
@heidebahner4887 9 месяцев назад
They still supply the brewery ?
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
Yes, once or twice per week.
@Normal1855
@Normal1855 7 месяцев назад
Actually the cities were built around the tracks. Why would they allow railroads to put tracks down the main road?
@williamh.jarvis6795
@williamh.jarvis6795 7 месяцев назад
Good point!
@theonetruerobb4852
@theonetruerobb4852 8 месяцев назад
This is insane. Why is this possibly being allowed in the 21st century? It's a street, with houses and kids and cars and cats. And every few hours, they let a 37 ton diesel engine tiptoe its way down the middle? I realize there was important cargo in the (ahem) three railroad cars it was pulling, couldn't live without that... I'm a big fan of moving freight by railroad, it's far more efficient than moving it with 18-wheelers. But in this case, put me down on the side of folks who think it's frickin' crazy to run railroad trains down residential streets...
@ernestpassaro9663
@ernestpassaro9663 8 месяцев назад
Far heavier than 37 tons more like 150 tons !😮
@csrrjefflloyd6496
@csrrjefflloyd6496 9 месяцев назад
kind of wonder why no ditch lights.
@railroadingrambler218
@railroadingrambler218 9 месяцев назад
Not required under 10 mph I believe
@csrrjefflloyd6496
@csrrjefflloyd6496 9 месяцев назад
@@railroadingrambler218Well, anything is possible. They were on later in the video. Just not flashing. I don’t claim to know the rules.
@ernestpassaro9663
@ernestpassaro9663 8 месяцев назад
Well people do have a choice just don’t live there !😂
@25mfd
@25mfd 6 месяцев назад
yea a citizen definitely has a better chance of fighting their local government than fighting anything associated with the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT... it's like fighting that mythical beast with 8 heads
@110311DONTWANTCHANNE
@110311DONTWANTCHANNE 8 месяцев назад
train could go faster if people would stay out of the way
@neotastic5731
@neotastic5731 8 месяцев назад
To be fair it is on a street and not a normal railroad
@faxmen09
@faxmen09 9 месяцев назад
"The residents were opposed to the tracks being laid down the middle of the street". As rightfully they should have been. Full size track and train running down a residential neighborhood street, ludicrous IMO. A simple adage likely explains it, "follow the money". I'll bet dollars to doughnuts, "Payola:, involved. Wouldn't be the first time, certainly not the last. Now just a unique amusement in railroading, but for the residents at the time, "railroaded" indeed.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 8 месяцев назад
That's your interpretation of the historical background is it? They were bribed to run the tracks down the street? By whom and what might their ulterior motive have been?
@faxmen09
@faxmen09 8 месяцев назад
@@AndreiTupolev Who stood to benefit by a full size commercial track down the middle of a residential neighborhood street, and who had the power to make it happen. Yes, that's my speculation, and I'm sticking to it. Follow the money. "Railroaded."
@ernestpassaro9663
@ernestpassaro9663 8 месяцев назад
NIMBYs are probably complaining !😂
@faxmen09
@faxmen09 8 месяцев назад
@@ernestpassaro9663 In this case wouldn't it be NIMFYs.😉
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