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You don’t need a new PC - AtlasOS E-Waste PC refresh 

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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:56 Meet the obsolete big box store PC
2:29 The CPU
4:10 The RAM
5:25 The Power Supply
7:39 The Storage
8:38 SATA DATA or SATA DATA
8:54 The GPU
10:14 The OS
10:31 Meet the Vero
14:13 Let's get gaming
15:12 Atlas OS
18:44 Outro

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@Malazim
@Malazim Год назад
That moment when their old system is 4-6 years newer than your PC.
@frogdog3600
@frogdog3600 Год назад
You need a new pc.
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Год назад
​@@frogdog3600 depends on what they do with it
@ZackSNetwork
@ZackSNetwork Год назад
@@priestesslucy3299 Read the comment. They need a new PC lol.
@frenzyfixes5827
@frenzyfixes5827 Год назад
@@ZackSNetwork we read the comment, if it satisfies their needs then do they really need to upgrade? Intel’s CPUs we’re stagnant for a while when AMD wasn’t competition. Meaning a lot of their old tech is still perfectly useable today. I’ve been using an Ivy Bridge i7 and I’m happy with it.
@WohaoG
@WohaoG Год назад
That moment when their "Slow" CPU and RAM speed & amount is better than yours(8GB 2666Mhz Ram, 3.0Ghz CPU)
@laml545
@laml545 Год назад
That moment when you're thinking "nice let's see how they'll make very old and crap PCs work" and the setup they use is basically what your current PC is
@zuberk8812
@zuberk8812 Год назад
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@di57inct
@di57inct Год назад
😂😂
@pigeon_9161
@pigeon_9161 Год назад
That gpu is quite a bit better than mine 😭
@Obalanserad
@Obalanserad Год назад
Better than mine. 😅
@suchiman123
@suchiman123 Год назад
Even worse if your current PC has a i5-4670K
@gasparzuker
@gasparzuker 10 месяцев назад
I have an i7-2600 PC and it works perfectly fine up to this days! SSD's do magic in old processors
@9852323
@9852323 3 месяца назад
I think the computer in the video is basically a modern computer. People who watch videos and check email arent gonna tell the difference between an i9 and a 1st Gen i5 so it’s just a waste of money. Even gaming is possible on 2nd and 3rd Gen i7.
@randomgamingin144p
@randomgamingin144p 3 месяца назад
@@9852323 well i would be able to tell the difference with a 1st gen i5... but a 4th gen i7 is a different story, thats what im using on my main system and it gets 0% cpu doing most things in windows 11
@ZajaxFilms
@ZajaxFilms 2 месяца назад
Heads up - I had that same cpu and you can grab one of those $150 beelink mini PCs and get the same performance without the extra power draw
@joshe2420
@joshe2420 2 месяца назад
@@9852323 I have a 3570 and an rx570 that I built up for like 100usd a few months ago, great for gaming as of now, just thinking of going to 16gb of ram since it's running cs2 on 90% ram
@otrocanalpedorrodeyt6016
@otrocanalpedorrodeyt6016 27 дней назад
​@@9852323and I can confirm that, I got a core I7 2600k and is really good, not the best and newest performance, but still really good, and with my old 1060 3gb, 16 gb of ram and an ssd of 1 tb runs pretty well (also if you can, get an ssd with Dram, make things much better than the Dram-less ones on gaming) I play some simulators on it and holds up pretty well for the kind of pc it is
@ljungan96
@ljungan96 9 месяцев назад
I just realized my PC case is 11 years old. Bought my first case and started building my first PC in 2012. It was a Fractal Design Define R4. I was 16 years old and had my first summer job. Bought all my components with the first money I earned myself. I think it was an GTX 660. But hard to remember. To this day I still have the same case and just replaced the PC's components. Now it's 13700K with an 4070 TI but still the same case. Idk if that is weird to have the same case for that many years.
@nocturn9x
@nocturn9x Месяц назад
Not weird at all. Cases just tend to last, like PSUs
@aironwhite6533
@aironwhite6533 Месяц назад
Cases are just the frame to put parts in. You always invest in a great case that would be able to handle all the parts and certainly hard drives you may install including gps and extra fans.
@GamerBryce
@GamerBryce Месяц назад
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it bub
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070 Месяц назад
I just helped a family member revive a PC from 2004. Basically all internals are new but the case still screams early 2000s. It was actually pretty decent to build in
@bite-sizedshorts9635
@bite-sizedshorts9635 10 дней назад
My PC is about 12 years old. The only thing I have replaced since I built the computer is the hard drive. I put in an SSD. The computer works fine for me. I can cruise the internet, watch videos, work on genealogy, do word processing, digitize analog audio sources and clean them up, download files, and do a lot of these things simultaneously. I have had dozens of browser windows open at the same time. I have 8GB of RAM, but I have to work really hard to gag it. It's in a huge Cooler Master case with room to add a lot more drives inside, but I've had bad experiences in the past. About 20 years ago, I had a computer stuffed with hard drives, and it sounded like an airplane taking off when I turned on the power. I got tired of the noise and went with external hard drives that could sit further away from me. I now have a JBOD with 8 drives in it, each being 14TB. I have a lot of files, everything I've ever worked on or downloaded since 1989. I haven't lost a single file and never had a trojan or virus because of my safe computing habits. As far as old cases go, I still have my computers from 1992 and 1995, and one or two later ones that aren't dated.
@barbiefan3874
@barbiefan3874 Год назад
Be aware that Atlas OS is disabling UAC, ALL software will be running with Admin privileges. Also they disable MS Defender. Atlas OS is a security nightmare in hands of a user who doesn't know what they are doing.
@gharren
@gharren Год назад
While it might be true (and I agree that disabling UAC by default is a bad move in any case), I don't think Atlas OS is really targeted towards casual users.
@antikommunistischaktion
@antikommunistischaktion Год назад
​@@gharren Guess who the primary users are likely to be? Casual users who can't afford to upgrade their PC. This entire video needs to be redone with the AtlasOS part replaced with Linux.
@gharren
@gharren Год назад
@@antikommunistischaktion Can't afford to upgrade = casual?
@antikommunistischaktion
@antikommunistischaktion Год назад
@@gharren Yes, because a casual is likely going to have money dedicated elsewhere. You don't upgrade your PC to keep with current hardware trends as a casual, you stick with older and/or budget hardware, and there's nothing wrong with that.
@silverlinegaming3933
@silverlinegaming3933 Год назад
@@antikommunistischaktionso for like my Dell optiplex I should just stick with windows 10 even though the dang thing uses like 2 to 4gb of my 16gb of ram leaving me with only 12gb to work with? Cause I have been thinking of upgrading to a more modern intel setup for 500$ with the 10th to 12th gens.
@styles234
@styles234 Год назад
I love videos about old hardware. It gives scrapyard wars vibes and that tinkering with older hardware to put together an experience that wouldn’t be possible any other way (probably for a kid or someone just starting to dabble with PC gaming).
@aared
@aared Год назад
That was my exact thought when he suggested reselling the monitor and keyboard that came in the bundle
@joeblische6087
@joeblische6087 11 месяцев назад
That is my favorite PC activity rebuilding old but still very usable PCs. I don't game or do much editing but love to build and upgrade with spare part. thank yo for all the great video's.
@shriramvenu
@shriramvenu 11 месяцев назад
i still have my gaming pc from 2012 with me going strong. Granted i upgraded the GPU once, increased the RAM to 16GB, and had to replace the motherboard once (identical model swap out). and its on its 3rd PSU. but I can still use it for work, youtube and 1080p gaming just fine. an overclocked i7 3770k and a gtx 1070 can really take you very far.
@VulpineDemon
@VulpineDemon Год назад
I'd love a full declutter video for people that do want to use Windows, without the bloat. I'm fairly techy but miss a lot of really small things because Windows buries it in small submenus.
@c0mplex564
@c0mplex564 Год назад
And have Anthony host the episode
@SuperTort0ise
@SuperTort0ise Год назад
What you don't like opening 20 menus from windows XP all the way to 11???
@ytateir6882
@ytateir6882 Год назад
Was looking for something like this, and maybe even better than a video, some form of written guide/checklist of stuff that can be removed. Don't want to go to the step of AtlasOS, but surely you should be able to achieve some of the performance gains with some "manual" labour
@realemmyrossum
@realemmyrossum Год назад
They just showed you atlas OS
@jiminysnicket86
@jiminysnicket86 Год назад
Search functionality is your friend
@me2olive
@me2olive Год назад
I'd suspect most of that "performance improvement" in Atlas comes from disabling Defender and Spectre/Meltdown mitigations, i.e. those aren't "fixable" in a future release if you still want those performance improvements. What I'd prefer is a way to disable all of those on the fly without a reboot, so you can game, then instantly switch back to a more secure system when you're done.
@ozzyloaded
@ozzyloaded Год назад
This sounds perfect!
@littlemac5942
@littlemac5942 Год назад
Yes well done ♥
@kachinn07
@kachinn07 Год назад
thats wrong i totally deleted windows defender from my system and after windows 10 update windows defender comeback, you can allways "repair" your windows and bring all the services back if you need those
@happyskeg1
@happyskeg1 Год назад
Would have been nice if they actually got into the os, and what it does. Total waste of time
@ElNeroDiablo
@ElNeroDiablo Год назад
​@@kachinn07 Disabled does not mean Deleted. AtlasOS can re-enable the Spectre/Meltdown mitigations with a command script as those mitigations aren't removed from the OS but rather not turned on by default.
@flacodoom
@flacodoom 11 месяцев назад
Great video! I've always believe that you don't almost never need top of the top or even 2-3 years past hardware... if money is an issue you can afford an used configuration like this exposed here! Thanks 4 sharing.
@DGneoseeker1
@DGneoseeker1 10 месяцев назад
3 years? Pfft. I'm still using a Core i7 920 from 2008.
@LasiruMaheerathna
@LasiruMaheerathna 9 месяцев назад
I had this processor in my previous PC (which died due to a static issue ruining the motherboard). It was an absolute workhorse. I covered close to 200 times more than it costed to build that PC with the work I did in it, unfortunately It didn't have enough power to edit RED Raw on the fly without using proxies. It stayed with me for 5 years until in late 2021 I upgraded to a 12 gen.
@greanhare5270
@greanhare5270 Год назад
Scrapyard Wars was some of your most important content and I'm glad to see the repurposing and restoration aspect of those videos coming back. I hope to see more of it.
@Plain--Jane
@Plain--Jane Год назад
right? i love getting to know about current hardware, but videos that are budget oriented are so especially relevant for so many people these days
@bozleyangling
@bozleyangling Год назад
@@Plain--Jane this.
@98SE
@98SE Год назад
I used to love Scrapyard Wars, I wish LMG would do that again!
@Dr.Spatula
@Dr.Spatula Год назад
The content never left. You just stopped watching it. They've never stopped doing budget and used PCs
@savagekiller99
@savagekiller99 Год назад
Any info on any future scrapyard wars content? I watched the old ones around 10 times each, they are amazing and the best content LTT has ever done
@xyueta
@xyueta Год назад
Hey! Atlas Dev here, we are appreciated to be noticed on LTT! Most of the issues were fixed in the latest release that has just been released.
@nonumfrancis3109
@nonumfrancis3109 Год назад
Have never heard of you until now, will definitely be be checking y'all out!
@JohnPaulBuce
@JohnPaulBuce Год назад
great
@codyssmith73
@codyssmith73 Год назад
Hey there. Is it possible to dualboot AtlasOS onto a MacBook Pro? JW.
@bwimtg
@bwimtg Год назад
AND it's open source?? i love you guys! i am looking forward to trying out atlas! can i ask you why the spectre/meltdown patches are disabled in it?
@augustoalvarez6766
@augustoalvarez6766 Год назад
It's a bot, guys. There is like a 1000 comments like this already.
@BlueXonar
@BlueXonar 9 месяцев назад
As a retro hardware enthusiast, I am SUPER interested to hear more about AtlasOS. I'm sure you are planning a deep dive on it before too long, I can't wait!
@kllause6681
@kllause6681 9 месяцев назад
from what other comments are saying, LTT apparently only did a VERY surface level run-down and didnt even touch on how dangerous this OS can be to use because of all the features it removes (one thing being UAC, which means any program you have is automatically run as administrator, which is veryyyy bad) the OS in it's current state is practically a breeding ground for malware. In fact some have stated that its just as dangerous to use as something like windows XP... so uhh yeah... dont download it unless u know exactly what ur doing lol. and even then this can still be super dangerous to use.
@RafaMazurekRMZ
@RafaMazurekRMZ 9 месяцев назад
@@kllause6681 do you think that running it as only game machine with steam and battle net as only apps should be fine? I do proves internet on other hardware
@meetoo594
@meetoo594 8 месяцев назад
@@kllause6681For a non networked emulation box or the like its fine but yeah, going anywhere near the internet on AtlasOS is just asking for trouble.
@Pancajayna
@Pancajayna 6 месяцев назад
@@kllause6681 windows XP was dangerous? AHAHAHA
@Manhackarcadeisfun
@Manhackarcadeisfun 6 месяцев назад
@@Pancajayna No its dangerous now.
@unknown-x-1777
@unknown-x-1777 7 месяцев назад
I was dealing with that issue for a year, I did cmd nfs /scan Also did start up repair and finally I was able to properly shut down and I didn't have problems booting up and loading windows. Before that I was also dealing with the computer turning on in the middle of the night.
@ClLouID
@ClLouID Год назад
I appreciate these more "grounded" videos that appeal to most of us watching. The experiments are fun but it's awesome to see you produce stuff that's relatable to systems that a bunch of people might still be using
@simdaydreamer5239
@simdaydreamer5239 Год назад
Not sure it's "grounded". Person calls relatively new machine "e-waste" while updating most of hardware. I'm not even talking about using that software "debloater" which also makes security updated non-functional. I can use win7 on my old machine with similar success.
@Flipchu
@Flipchu Год назад
@@simdaydreamer5239 I mean, they did say MORE "grounded", not completely.
@realJimMarshall
@realJimMarshall Год назад
I tend to watch these "more grounded" videos than the tech news videos. I tend to find them more enjoyable.
@angelcarrillo980
@angelcarrillo980 Год назад
I still have my lil' XP laptop as a smile factory, even if it is practically lagging on wordpad at this point.
@user-jo6ip2qc7i
@user-jo6ip2qc7i Год назад
Yeah dude. I admit that Im really tired of vídeos for rich people. Most of us are broke af
@peterliu9135
@peterliu9135 Год назад
Would be really nice if you guys can do a deep dive into atlusOS with testings, bechmarks for games, common software, and productivity stuff (3D softwares, Adobe suite) etc
@SilverWolfPL
@SilverWolfPL Год назад
^^
@Jenkem254
@Jenkem254 Год назад
AtlasOS is not that good if you're not using it only for gaming. It just breaks too much by disabling and removing core components. I tried several of these slimmed down windows versions and settled for ReviOS since it gets rid of any bloat but the most important thing is that I havent run into any compatibility issues like on AtlasOS for example. Also you can simply enable windows updates through their included manager if thats what you like.
@wiking793
@wiking793 Год назад
If you really need a private and bloatware free system then imo you're better off with some windows-like Linux like Linux Mint or Zorin. Security wise it is way better than modified Windows
@tiggybits
@tiggybits Год назад
​@@wiking793 Except when something breaks instantly and you need to spend 3 hours googling how to fix something only to be told "Go to the terminal and type..." We have no idea what it's doing. I want to like Linux and replace Windows but it's just not there yet.
@wiking793
@wiking793 Год назад
@@tiggybits unless you are using something aimed to more experienced Linux users like Arch or Gentoo you should have no issues like that. I have set up many computers with both Linux Mint and Windows 10. Honestly the second one is way more time consuming and annoying to set up. When it comes to technical problems I don't recall those problems with Linux Mint. Also when it comes to terminal I think you should change your approach. I also used to think it is more userfriendly to click everything out. And surprisingly you can acrually do things that way in linux too however actually terminal is better - instead of clicking who the hell knows how many things in how many places (cause windows settings all are over the place) you just copy paste two commands to terminal
@JohnZoetebier
@JohnZoetebier 9 месяцев назад
As at happens, bought an Aspire Vero with Intel I7 CPU and 16 Gb RAM on Amazon AU a few months ago. Liked it so much that we bought a second Acer Vero laptop. Check last month and discovered Acer had increased the price with 50%. Looks like they are very popular.
@cyberredpandas1903
@cyberredpandas1903 10 месяцев назад
Personally I've found that an old office pc with a few inexpensive upgrades can work really well for playing older games. It's definitly not for everyone but as someone who collects physical pc games, I've gotten more than my moneys worth.
@planarian1772
@planarian1772 Год назад
it's crazy, back in 2017-2018 all I've had to worry about was how to upgrade my gaming PC to the next level with the money I had... Now, things have changed. I have the money but priorities change. Thanks for being there all the way Linus.
@tyrannicpuppy
@tyrannicpuppy Год назад
Gotta say, that recylced plastic laptop looks nicer to me than the piano black of the old tower. Not everything needs to be super shiny or made of machined metals. I really like the tiny chips of colour in amidst the grey. I would love to see more of that in the tech space.
@RunedGolem1
@RunedGolem1 Год назад
For laptops I prefer metal cases just because they’re generally stronger and more resilient than plastic one in my experience.
@SecretSauceyjuice
@SecretSauceyjuice Год назад
​@@RunedGolem1it's true that plastic tends to be brittle and fail in thin unsupported areas or hard impacts while most metals tend to bend and distort significantly more before failing completely. However, with the right formulation plastics *can* be fairly resilient and will tend to spring back to their original shape better than metal as long as the force isn't enough to pass into that shatter zone. I do agree that metal is superior, but plastic isn't a deal breaker if done correctly.
@shadowsandfire
@shadowsandfire Год назад
Would love to see more of it in every space!
@masutafuyu
@masutafuyu Год назад
Did anyone notice the backwards R?
@vipvip-tf9rw
@vipvip-tf9rw Год назад
@@RunedGolem1 plastic laptop can be durable if it's thick enough, look at old ibm keyboards, they are sturdier than modern aluminum laptops
@ontil68
@ontil68 11 месяцев назад
Soooo... for anyone wondering... you ALL saved me from making a mistake! 👏👏 i thought about messing with atlasos... but i won't now... 😅😅😅😅 the comment section was actually nice to me for once... Good on all of you!!❤
@Lightingkid2010
@Lightingkid2010 10 месяцев назад
they are being so hard on linus for one little mistake, and uac slows down your PC, not like people always click on yes anyway, and you could just turn off the run as admin in properties, and only install from trusted sources
@kllause6681
@kllause6681 9 месяцев назад
@@Lightingkid2010 no they are being very reasonably hard. LTT has an astronomically large viewer base in terms of the tech-sphere, a lot of people who watch LTT are even people who might not be as tech savvy as others. The fact they did such a surface level overview of this OS without going over any of the potential issues and hazards/dangers it comes with is incredibly irresponsible.
@julianorozco5201
@julianorozco5201 9 месяцев назад
@@king_kunk but can you run steam and other games on linux? like i heard years ago that most games werent compatible with linux. is that true=?
@axandraalex5869
@axandraalex5869 9 месяцев назад
@@julianorozco5201 You can run steam. Some games however don't run on linux, namely valorant, honkai star rail, and any other game that have aggressive anti-cheat and/or DRM.
@Gigachad-yt9qt
@Gigachad-yt9qt 9 месяцев назад
@@julianorozco5201late but it’s not true anymore 90% of windows games can be run through wine and proton on Linux. The only ones that can’t be run are some games with anti cheat that doesn’t support Linux (R6, Fortnite, FighterZ, etc)
@mynameisjoejeans
@mynameisjoejeans 9 месяцев назад
Great video, covered a lot of important points here. Cheers fellas.
@fish_kingdom135
@fish_kingdom135 Год назад
Just wanted to say thank you all for everything you have helped me so much with my PC and helped me learn a lot on electronics
@FaZekiller-qe3uf
@FaZekiller-qe3uf Год назад
AtlasOS disables UAC and runs all programs as Administrator. It also disables vulnerability mitigations as briefly shown on screen. You’d think they’d care at all about security after being hacked.
@octoberfiregaming
@octoberfiregaming Год назад
Absolutely this. Disabling security features like this is a Big Risk(tm). I suppose, if it was never connected to the Internet, it'd be fine, but otherwise ... nope.
@GonePh1shing
@GonePh1shing Год назад
Not to mention they disabled windows defender, all malware removal tools, and all security updates. Anyone installing this OS on an internet connected machine is just begging to be hacked...
@user-yy8go2nb1q
@user-yy8go2nb1q Год назад
@@ethanwasme4307 Lol what??? Are you time traveling here from 2006? They have 50% market share and use the same signature databases as "premium" AV software. Other AV try to convince you to pay for something you can get for free by adding bloatware like ad blockers and browser addons to track you and keep you safe. I only recommend paid solutions to completely computer illiterate people who either need to have those extra hoops to jump through before they ruin something or if they just want peace of mind because they don't understand the concept of antivirus being free.
@Gabriel_Micah
@Gabriel_Micah Год назад
@@ethanwasme4307 ???
@PRO_OF_MC
@PRO_OF_MC Год назад
@@user-yy8go2nb1q best antivirus is common sense
@ScullyMD-jt1bn
@ScullyMD-jt1bn 9 месяцев назад
My PC is circa 2011 most of the components. My motherboard is from 16. So it even has m.2 support and I'm using an fx-8350. And my PC is still working great. When I build a new one, this one will end up being a media PC.
@Stabu
@Stabu 8 месяцев назад
One thing I would really love to see is the replacing of Phillips screws with Torx screws. Torx tools are found everywhere and it's nuts that we still use Phillips although it's well known that they strip and slip, especially when used with power tools, than almost any other known screw type.
@bite-sizedshorts9635
@bite-sizedshorts9635 10 дней назад
Screws with the square hole work well with power drivers. I used to work for Hatteras Yachts, and that's the only kind they use in building million dollar yachts.
@nonotanymore
@nonotanymore Год назад
Good videos about cheaper options are always so welcome, most ppl vicariously live through your higher end videos but having these real guides to competent low end builds are so valuable to your viewerbase
@TippyHippy
@TippyHippy Год назад
I put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture
@kunj5802
@kunj5802 Год назад
​@@TippyHippyWhy???😢
@just_HAZEN
@just_HAZEN Год назад
​@Kunj don't feed the trolls
@nonotanymore
@nonotanymore Год назад
@@TippyHippy awwwwwwwwwe thats so sweet
@kunj5802
@kunj5802 Год назад
@@just_HAZEN Ok 👍,Got it.
@CasualGameDev
@CasualGameDev Год назад
This video makes me miss Scrapyard wars, but I understand how hard it can be to make those videos. It would be great if you guys kept doing these kind of budget/refurbishing videos
@CasualGameDev
@CasualGameDev Год назад
Also I can confirm on these older CPUs, that reducing the background applications significantly reduces stutter in certain titles. I have the i5-6500, and it was basically unusable for CSGO and Fortnite. I got a beta bios, overclocked to 4.2GHz, and then reinstalled windows, making sure to remove clutter and disable windows defender(only recommended for experienced users). This brought ALOT more life into my CPU. Maybe you guys could make a video about overclocking non-k skylake if you haven't already?
@markodriscoll3660
@markodriscoll3660 Год назад
Scrapyard wars was super cool....I had a bunch of old pcs that I got from my job at the time and that series had me coming up with all sorts of fun experiments to do with them....even managed to blow a couple of old dell 6600 optimums up. Bring back scrap yard wars....and Anthony should be on every episode. Love you Anthony! =) Also the 6600 optimums can take an obscene amount of abuse....value for money right there
@CasualGameDev
@CasualGameDev Год назад
@@markodriscoll3660 Anthony on SYW would be epic, was he in any of the previous ones? I don't remember
@killer147896325
@killer147896325 Год назад
Or the secret shopper/ tech support calls again
@Big007Boss
@Big007Boss Год назад
Scrapyard wars should comeback with the new staff, with Linus and Luke as judges only
@tbfam569
@tbfam569 8 месяцев назад
My i5 2500k is still rocking with my msi mainboard, my daughter is still playing game with it, one time the thermal paste was so old for a year and it kept restarting, spent couple dollar for new thermal paste, works like new again, intel chip may not be the fastest but it’s reliable like a Toyota!
@HappyQuailsLC
@HappyQuailsLC 6 месяцев назад
I'd love to see the HP Firebird 803 reinvigorated even though I know it lacks subsequent dual graphics card drivers, limiting its use to the Win95-98 gen of OSs. BUT if the cards might be swapped out with compatible drivers with subsequent Win7 onward OS compatability, that would be great!
@ghosttheoremproductions5469
As the local SI, I regularly build systems like this to offer an ultra-budget option for people. I make hardly more than a few dollars but I've had many customers come back 6mo to a year later to buy a proper system from me. For a lot of people, a system like this is plenty for their needs until they are ready to invest more heavily. It's also nice for someone considering switching to PC gaming from consoles as the investment is very low.
@victorkreig6089
@victorkreig6089 Год назад
This practice also keeps a lot of older tech alive that would otherwise have already been destroyed We didn't know how good we had it in the 90's and a lot of amazing stuff just ended up being destroyed because we decided not to repurpose it or keep using it in other capacities; it's all gone now. Never know how much we might get screwed over by newer hardware and software so it's good to keep this stuff truckin
@swiiishgin1515
@swiiishgin1515 Год назад
these type of builds got me into "flipping" pcs. like you, I dont make much, but I enjoy the process and getting more people into pc gaming
@amrazh
@amrazh Год назад
Gotta say, I like this kind of content. Nothing is more painful to me than getting rid of old hardware knowing it's destiny is the landfill - which is why I have a small collection of my old PC's and laptops running lightweight OS's for a few different uses around the house. Good stuff LTT.
@Slane583
@Slane583 Год назад
I still have my old i5 3350P and ASRock Z75 board stored away in a tote. The cpu, board and ram are all perfectly useable they're just not up to snuff for a lot of modern stuff. I hate throwing away computer parts as well especially if they have sentimental value attached to them. The oldest motherboard I own is my old Socket-A MSI gaming board that housed my AMD Athlon XP 2400+. Back when Nvidia still made chipsets for motherboards. :)
@polish_filipino
@polish_filipino 11 месяцев назад
this really makes me want to open up my computer from 2009 and see if i can get it working... even though I need a dsub cable for the monitor it would be kinda cool
@Mzansi74
@Mzansi74 9 месяцев назад
I've been using my AMD Ryzen 7 2700X since 2018. The only things I changed are additional RAM and SSD/HDD. It is doing everything that I need and it is quite nippy compared to many current PCs. A PC often can be useful for 10 years. And if you run Linux, even longer.
@bigthiccboi137
@bigthiccboi137 Год назад
I just wanna say this channel is really a lifesaver for beginner builders. Linus and his staff always work at the ground level constantly checking resellers and used hardware prices to give their viewers good advice to afford a decent rig. Been watching for years and I’m always impressed by their integrity and ability to keep up with RU-vid’s ever changing trends.
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 Год назад
The problem is that they tend to push the idea of being a "carrot chaser". By having the bare minimum spec parts the slightest increase in performance requirements need a new generation of "cheap" parts and pretty soon the money spent constantly keeping your head above water could have been better spent on a top end part at the start and would net you not only a better experience but a longer useful service life as well.
@jack5mikemotown
@jack5mikemotown Год назад
@@Hybris51129 builds like this are practical, not everyone has the capital to go buy the latest and greatest. yes this is not the best system but it is environmentally friendly, cost efficient, and a great starting point for someone who needs it.
@kusucks991
@kusucks991 Год назад
@@Hybris51129 Yeah it's kinda personal preference I guess. This is why I go for the top of the line at the time, and then run it into the ground (8+ years). For instance......I went straight from DDR2 to DDR4, lol
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 Год назад
@@jack5mikemotown The thing is that you can get the top end parts and save in the long run with a bit saving up. That is a dirty concept for most people but it's the hard mathematical truth when you start to break down the costs over the course of 5-7+ year between major rebuilds. That is both better fiscally and environmentally.
@zeroa69
@zeroa69 Год назад
​@@kusucks991 i agree with building the best you can model. If it werent for a faulty Monster surge protector that shit itself and started power cycling the rig while my gf was playing id still be rocking a top end build from 2015.
@mareksb
@mareksb Год назад
I wish you explained more what Atlas OS changes and did before/after performance benchmarks
@shipwreck9146
@shipwreck9146 Год назад
Agreed, but tbh, removing Windows Defender kills this for me. There's no way I'll be switching to a 3rd party antivirus.
@jono6379
@jono6379 Год назад
It only took 17minutes to get to the point 😂
@Sheltur_0311
@Sheltur_0311 Год назад
@@shipwreck9146 it removes defender because defender uses a ton of memory and cpu, something alot of people complain about
@psychosis1767
@psychosis1767 Год назад
@@Sheltur_0311 It's still good to have it as an option as a bit of an idiot proofing. It toggled me off from it as well since even though I am tech savvy and know all forms of social engineering and ways to cause havok on PCs, I'm still not safe from myself fucking up.
@shipwreck9146
@shipwreck9146 Год назад
@@psychosis1767 Exactly, and even with all that tech knowledge, I'm often not sober while using my computer, and Windows Defender is like my designated driver.
@Jackie89000
@Jackie89000 11 месяцев назад
The CPU and fan that came with my pre-built i bought a while back are the only parts i havent upgraded. The I5 9600kf and stock intel fan and heat sink manages to keep my CPU at around 50°c with Satisfactory on full graphics at 2560x1440 and 60fps. I have a much better cooler for it but havent bothered to install it as it has yet to overheat from any of my games so far. Ill probably save the cooler until i finally upgrade the CPU (hopefully not for a while).
@juniordouw6681
@juniordouw6681 9 месяцев назад
Linus: "Old pc" Me: "basically my everyday pc"
@DerSeegler
@DerSeegler Год назад
Good video, but I would have liked a closer look at what is removed. Especially the security related things, like Defender and other Mitigations. For an offline machine, great. For an online machine, it could be risky.
@DragoniteSpam
@DragoniteSpam Год назад
Yeah, I thought that part sounded questionable when I first heard it, and then I looked closer... don't do this. Some of the things it disables are pretty benign, but things like UAC and Defender? Do we _want_ to go back to XP-era security?
@cavedweller333
@cavedweller333 Год назад
​@@DragoniteSpam yeah, I'd say the tradeoffs aren't worth it unless the machines running 100% offline
@DragoniteSpam
@DragoniteSpam Год назад
@@cavedweller333 Yeah, and there certainly can be a use for that, but it's by no means a one-size-fits-all solution. It's a shame because I thought this was one of his better videos aside from that one major oversight :p
@EricCorsi
@EricCorsi Месяц назад
I agree. Did not like what was disabled esp from a security standpoint.
@bite-sizedshorts9635
@bite-sizedshorts9635 10 дней назад
Only if you fail to practice safe computing. I don't use any antivirus software, and I haven't had a single virus or trojan since my first PC in 1989. Don't go to sketchy web sites, don't have preview on in email, and don't double-click on attachments. Download the attachments and try opening them with appropriate software. If they don't open, delete them. It really works.
@StopThePCAP
@StopThePCAP Год назад
Regarding AtlasOS, be very careful when meddling with this. If you really intend on using it, do not use it for browsing, illegitimate unknown downloads / installers. Their statement "security updates aren't removed, there's just currently no way to "get new ones" as for mitigations, you are prompted to enable or disable them in AME Wizard and you can disable or enable them while in atlas". There are constantly new critical Windows vulnerabilities getting discovered, these are then actively used in the wild. Your AtlasOS will from the start be at a major risk. Same with the disabling of security services such as Defender by default, you'll want some safeguard anyway. So that load will come back to bite you. @Linus - Please be careful in endorsing them without making these caveats even more clear than a slide containing a few of them. As they'll use you for marketing, and non-security minded people can get in trouble because of it.
@gambitgaming2379
@gambitgaming2379 Год назад
If you don't visit sketchy sites then you ain't getting no virus
@ezikhoyo
@ezikhoyo Год назад
I too wrote a comment about the security converns I have. I am honestly very disappointed that LTT, the company that seemingly gives so much about their viewers, advises to using software that essentially leaves you completely exposed with an OS that has critical security flaws. Just the fact that they removed Windows Defender in it's entirety is a HUGE red flag. I expected A LOT more from LTT as a company and from Linus personally. Not sure whether he isn't informing himself on the stuff that he in the end recommends or some new rookie wrote the script, without checking the actual implications of what Atlas does but this is not what I know LTT for.
@AbdulMoiz-km9oh
@AbdulMoiz-km9oh Год назад
Agreed
@altamashkhanattish5782
@altamashkhanattish5782 Год назад
I think all of these comments where they write AtlasOS at the start are bots. Probably this is Microsoft using AI to discourage people from using this?
@FaZekiller-qe3uf
@FaZekiller-qe3uf Год назад
They disabled UAC and run everything as administrator.
@techrickyross
@techrickyross 8 месяцев назад
I have a laptop that’s almost 10 years old(2013) and still going strong, specs(if necessary) 1TB WD blue SSD, Intel core i5 4200u @ 1.6 GHz, 8GB DDR3 ram and Intel HD 4400 graphics, also re-pasted the CPU so the laptop runs quieter and lasts longer
@elfedorausado
@elfedorausado 11 месяцев назад
I like this concept, despite the caveats. As someone who lives in a country where netbooks running windows 7 are still used regularly by people (just sold one a fortnight ago), the security implications of Atlas are of secondary importance to keeping hardware usable and out of landfills, at least for what people buying said netbooks are using them for.
@a.f.7404
@a.f.7404 Год назад
Been a PC gamer for my whole life. Then came the kid...and the bills...and the stress. I can finally say that after almost 6 years I could finally(kind of) afford a Ryzen 5 2600 paired with an RTX 2060. Damn I feel young again and like I found something that I lost when I sold my PC back in the day, a fucking part of me...of who I am.
@coryjones3855
@coryjones3855 11 месяцев назад
Happy you found your self again 😊
@Sumi_S
@Sumi_S 11 месяцев назад
Don’t have kids Got it
@oidrops
@oidrops 11 месяцев назад
@@Sumi_S Naaaa i have a kid and feel the same way
@riveteye93
@riveteye93 11 месяцев назад
@@Sumi_S kids are worth it, trust me. It's like replaying the game on hard mode, bu you keep all your progress.
@Larimuss
@Larimuss 11 месяцев назад
If you work hard for your family you deserve a decent rig 😂 there’s much worse vises or habits to have. You only need to upgrade it once every 4-6 years. $1000 / 5 = $200 a year. Tell the wife 😂
@LikelyLagging
@LikelyLagging Год назад
To reiterate the comments before me. MORE BUDGET VIDEOS LIKE THIS WOULD BE AWESOME. Like a mid tier, low tier, budget, and super budget build video(s) would be H U G E.
@Slitheringpeanut
@Slitheringpeanut Год назад
I agree, this rig I got is the only thing I'll likely ever have. This thing goes, I won't be able to get a new one. So if I can stretch it out for as long as possible, I will.
@Derpynewb
@Derpynewb Год назад
They've done that in the past and they didn't get good results. My guess is psychologically a video about un obtainable hardware has more replay value than a budget build vid you'd use once. Shoe Horning budget builds wherever you can on the side seems like a good compromise imo
@ICCraider
@ICCraider Год назад
The thing is that AAA games have degraded to such a point that I've seen more gameplay innovations in AA and indie games in the past 2 years than almost every AAA games combined. The only games that could actually compete with good indie games were Elden Ring and GOW. Hogwarts legacy felt like a bootleg version of Fable the lost chapters or kingdoms of Amalur. The RE remake games all have 2 decade old mechanics that we've played like a 100 times over. And the graphics aren't that good either, they're worse than "The vanishing of Ethan Carter" which was released a decade ago. And that game used to run on a GTX650ti at 60FPS without any problems. Almost all AAA games feel half assed. My biggest regret in the past 2 years is my purchase of a new GPU because I'm not utilizing it at all cuz indie games aren't that demanding. Could've stuck to my GTX970 and I still wouldn't have missed much.
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn Год назад
there are entire channels dedicated to giving broke gamers options for pcs, or you could always just buy a used console.
@bjarne431
@bjarne431 Год назад
Agree, I generally never buy the latest and greatest. Way to expensive and way beyond what I actually need. Right now I use i5-7600 with a single 8gb ddr4 stick and gtx 1060 6GB: 200+ fps in CS:GO is way more than enough on my 60 hz monitor lol
@MrReese
@MrReese 11 месяцев назад
I rocked my 6600K until mid 2022 and it handled everything I threw at it quite well paired with several gfx cards over the span of 7 years (GTX 660, GTX 1060, GTX 1080, RTX 3060 TI) - eSports titles, rather modern shooters like PUBG and Ghost Recon Wildlands & Breakpoint, cool single player games like MGS V, MMOs like Black Desert - even in parallel with eSports titles. When I upgraded last year I took out the gfx card and sound card and passed the PC on to my mom who has been using it since then. I hate wasting perfectly good hardware.
@AlienSaxophone785
@AlienSaxophone785 11 месяцев назад
Really like the Acer's Earthion. Is this a option for encasings and keycaps you could enable / look into for the Framework laptop materials? I'm waiting for the 16" framework laptops with dedicated GPU and would really like if i could choose post-consumer plastics as my housing or keyboard.
@Andres-Estrella
@Andres-Estrella Год назад
Atlas OS seems incredible. LTT should make a separate video on it
@liamconverse8950
@liamconverse8950 Год назад
It's just windows optimized for gaming
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 Год назад
No, it's Windows without the features that you don't need, but Microsoft wants you to use anyway.
@Andres-Estrella
@Andres-Estrella Год назад
@@liamconverse8950 no, it is windows stripped off a lot of the massive amount of bloat and tracking that ships with windows which can revive old hardware like they showed in the video. They market it for gaming bc everything is nowadays and apparently it works
@hellomark1
@hellomark1 Год назад
I have an old laptop I still use sometimes, I keep it on Win8.1 because 10 was even more sluggish. Now I'm wondering if Win10+Atlas would be faster than standard Win8.1
@liamconverse8950
@liamconverse8950 Год назад
@@Andres-Estrella Those are things that impede gaming performance
@Chiruliru
@Chiruliru Год назад
Would be interesting to see the comparison in performance and overall responsiveness between OG W11 vs Tiny11 vs Atlas
@spamme766
@spamme766 Год назад
And Spectre 11
@arnox4554
@arnox4554 Год назад
vs MX Linux. No, we're not gonna shut up about Linux. Go tell Microsoft to make a better OS that doesn't need a complete fucking lobotomy just to make it halfway performant and usable and doesn't require you to sign up for a fucking online Microsoft account just to install Windows. And by the way, this is all coming from someone who used to love Windows.
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Год назад
Windows 10 is faster than 8.1 for a decade old Haswell high tdp 4 core 8 thread i7 laptop that i have, Windows 11 should be even better. I currently have an i7-12700K system with Windows 11, the boot time is 3 seconds, my decade old laptop has a boot time of 12 seconds.
@pawepiat6170
@pawepiat6170 Год назад
Also, Linux, Native and with proton
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Год назад
I debloated my decade old Haswell laptop and changed some settings, then i did an undervolt and it has a partial overclock as well. It feels snappy for being a decade old. I use it for music production, capable of recording stuff and mixing in real time. My i7-12700K has twice the single core perfomance but the IPC isn't 100% better. But what changed everything for me is Thread Director, not the core count.
@romandell1289
@romandell1289 11 месяцев назад
I built a gaming pc with a used i7 4790k, z97ar used, and used 1660 ti. Put an id cooling tower cooler on it, overclocked to 4.6 and ram to 2400 mhz. I get 90 fps 1080p on mw2 with recommended performance graphics. Old and used is definately usable. Also I stripped down windows 10 with a lot of research on necessary prosesses.
@erik7317
@erik7317 9 месяцев назад
I have a build that's been mostly modified from 2014. My motherboard from that time also has M.2 support. I have one in there right now lol. However I have DDR3 RAM and can't upgrade further. I also have an old i7 that is 4ghz. I am able to use my 3080 just fine. Otherwise, if I want to upgrade anything else, I have to replace the mobo. But the PC runs great. :)
@Lizlodude
@Lizlodude Год назад
Hearing Linus call a system from the generation of my current one super obsolete is a bit rough XD Nice contributions from both Acer and AtlasOS. To Acer's credit, I just recently tossed an old SSD and a new install in an old Acer laptop for a family member, and the process of finding the drivers and info was remarkably unremarkable, which given how terrible it usually is, is a nice bonus. I'd love to see some third party security audits of projects like AtlasOS as well, as that would give some additional confidence in the safety of it.
@LabGecko
@LabGecko Год назад
Seconding the security audits. If nothing else, it would give users some ideas of what to lock down / watch for.
@lewismassie
@lewismassie Год назад
My computer is a generation older than this one :/
@iTooob
@iTooob Год назад
Bruh, mine's from 2014
@sqeaky8190
@sqeaky8190 Год назад
Old can be fine, depending on what you do. This had a 5th gen i5 in it right? I have gotten I think 4 new computers for myself (not counting servers and work issued things), but I do a fair amount of work from mine. I am doing stuff like software builds and running VMs that take gobs of memory, but that isn't most people, right? There are tons of taks and old PC or even a chromebook an do just fine at.
@shirt9913
@shirt9913 Год назад
Y’all broke as hell wtf 😭😭 the pc was literally $100
@ChimpRiot
@ChimpRiot Год назад
AtlasOS ended up being the more interesting section. That’s the minimal Windows experience I want.
@bruce-le-smith
@bruce-le-smith Год назад
yeah the windows bloat is so bad, really glad some smart folks are giving us an easy button to drop the unnecessary bells and whistles!
@AniviaS
@AniviaS Год назад
It sounds interesting but lack of windows defender is a deal breaker for me. I don't want to use 3rd party anti-virus
@arcadebit1551
@arcadebit1551 Год назад
Yeah havent tried it yet, usually I do this stuff manually via Autoruns and probally will continue until atlas let me keep windows defender and spectre protection (at least as an option). What I really would hope for are different Windows distros like linux have.
@JoshuaCasey
@JoshuaCasey Год назад
@@AniviaS agreed. Windows Defender is the only antivirus I have installed (because it's just that good). (Although I also have malwarebytes installed...though the incessant sale promotion popups in the corner because I'm on the free version is kinda annoying).
@JoshuaCasey
@JoshuaCasey Год назад
@@arcadebit1551 i definitely think I'll keep an eye on atlasos
@shubham_k
@shubham_k 11 месяцев назад
I have a Presario laptop from 2007. First I used it with win XP for 4-5 years, then used it with win 7. Gradually, Win 7 started becoming slow on it circa 2015 with glitches in streaming media in browsers. Then I switched to using various Linux based distros on it like Ubuntu, Puppy Linux,etc etc. Installed Ubuntu mate on it in 2018. Still going strong. It's 2023, and I still use that laptop with Ubuntu mate. Works like a charm except streaming of media on browsers. Still it's good for working offline, downloading movies over torrent and watching it on VLC media player. The truth is the HW never dies. It's what you're putting on top of that HW that really makes a difference in the usability aspects of the computer. Similarly, I have an Asus Eeebook from 2015 which came pre-installed with Win 8. Still running good enough for streaming content. Throwing away computers for being old , is not my thing. Nice video overall. But I would still prefer some lightweight Linux -based distro over something like Atlas owing to its security concerns.
@cxa24
@cxa24 8 месяцев назад
I really wish you were more like us; I hope things improve for your platform
@starlight1697
@starlight1697 Год назад
Recycling stuff is amazing. I've always tried my best to reuse old hardware to reduce waste. Still do, have a couple of older components in my PC and currently building a backup PC using entirely old hardware that I used to use.
@stefanejegod8644
@stefanejegod8644 Год назад
Also, plastic fabrics will break down over time when you've re-used it like 5-6 times. So in the end you'll actually end up NOT being able to reuse it for some usecases. Like, reusing the plastic from a flexible chair might not be able to be flexible, because the fibres are somewhat less forgiving. So you either just re-use it for something rigid like a small kids garden shovel or something, that's basicly just a piece of hard plastic. This is also the reason why they "only" make like 30-50% reused plastic items, you need some sort of "virgin" (Yeah that's what it's called) material in there to support the binding of all the different fibres. The part about making a random green-whatever item is great though. So far the industry have been quite against reusing EVERY color of plastic, which is why you see a lot of clear plastic bottles which is made us A LOT of virgin material. Because the end users wouldn't want a random-colored bottle because it looks "dirty" but if we could change eachothers mind, we could actually reuse a lot more plastic bottles than we do today. -The more clear the plastics are, the more expensive it is to produce, and the less of material is re-used.
@mrmaniac3
@mrmaniac3 10 месяцев назад
I also don't see why the new product needs to be made from plastic. The chassis should be aluminum, or something like that that's 100% recyclable. Reduce, reuse, recycle. Making new consumer electronics hardware out of metal reduces the amount of plastics needed for production. Reusable and disposable bottles similarly can easily be made of metals. There are some Japanese beverage companies that make aluminum bottles.
@IWillSmurfYou
@IWillSmurfYou 9 месяцев назад
​@mrmaniac3 yes!! Life was fine before microplastics poisoned our global soil, foodchain, and water supply...
@Skypso
@Skypso 8 месяцев назад
@@mrmaniac3the idea is more to take the plastics that have been used and get them out of the landfill and from the earth, not so much to just get away with using more, cleaning up landfills and the earth is better then just letting it sit
@Sabrintwitt3r
@Sabrintwitt3r 8 месяцев назад
This reminds me, one time I have seen one local glass maker (I'm sure it's not exclusive to them) has launched a line of cups made from recycled glass. You know that they seperate clear glass from green tinted glass? I guess they didn't do that and the end result of light green tinted glass looks so cool. Not every recycled good has to look bad.
@prettylitch1785
@prettylitch1785 4 месяца назад
aluminium has a very high melting point and uses a lot of fossil fuels. Much more than plastic @@mrmaniac3
@lobsterwhisperer7932
@lobsterwhisperer7932 10 месяцев назад
My Toshiba Laptop i5 is from 2010 and i still use it as my daily, its still more powerful than a lot of entry/mid-level laptops on the current market.. it has never let me down once...dont know how long that will last though.
@danwat1234
@danwat1234 10 месяцев назад
I have like 70 SFF business PCs 2nd gen thru 7th gen Intel all with their original PSUs running just fine 24/7 under full load. No need to replace that PSU really. I should try Atlas on them.
@Savitarax
@Savitarax Год назад
Software/OS optimizations are honestly one of the most important things you can do. I’ve searched for hours on the best settings and it can make or break a game honestly.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад
And at the same time something people do less. Just look at all these electron apps for example.
@kernelpickle
@kernelpickle Год назад
I guarantee that the Spectre and Meltdown mitigations being disabled is the greatest contributing factor to that feeling snappier than with just the upgraded RAM and SSD, because they’ve had to add more of those over time and the older the CPU, the less secure the microcode and architectures were and the more software mitigations were needed. I would’ve liked to see a CPU benchmark to see how much performance was gained, because it’s easily in the 20-30% range, if not higher. Again, they’ve found more bugs and added to those more and more over time, so unless you have the latest CPUs on the market, you’re guaranteed to have slightly less performance from those security fixes. As a silly, who cares if it’s compromised system because it’s just for games-it’s fine. I just wouldn’t use it to do anything like log into important websites or hold financial information on it.
@404Anymouse
@404Anymouse Год назад
The antivirus is a huge contribution as well. It disables Windows Defender so unless you want to rawdog it without any protection at all, you'll lose more responsiveness by using third party antivirus than you would have by not disabling Defender in the first place.
@thewholeroll
@thewholeroll Год назад
I just came to say this. The spectre and meltdown mitigations can really affect the responsiveness of systems with old CPUs
@Breakfast_of_Champions
@Breakfast_of_Champions Год назад
Gibson InSpectre can turn these mitigations off, it's really nice on older hardware.
@ghohenzollern
@ghohenzollern Год назад
Until I saw they turned these mitigations off, I thought this OS might be a real option for me or maybe anyone, but without these mitigations in place are there any actual use cases for this OS that are even remotely safe? If my old machine is currently running Windows 7, would this even be as secure as that is? Are we even reasonably sure the team/person behind this OS isn't just hoping to add more machines to their secret botnet?
@Electric_Doodie
@Electric_Doodie Год назад
@@ghohenzollern not really, No. It's basically a "Haha Low Process / RAM Usage goes brrrr" kind of thing, for the kids out there that have no clue (or a system would need to be so old that it doesn't even matter anymore anyways). It has so much security disabled and other things, that it's basically just a "Show Off" it feels like. Even worse, that Linus is promoting it kind of now, especially after getting hacked not so long ago himself, kinda ironic lol And the worst, you can't even be sure how the Atlas OS gets handled by Anti-Cheat Games (Riot Games, etc). Maybe you get a (Shadow-)Ban the moment you log into it with it, maybe not.
@Revoku
@Revoku 9 месяцев назад
now this is useful, I have an old 4690k system my wife uses thats starting to show its age, and shes far too cheap to want to upgrade it, but still uses it for video watching and gaming.
@lalsur8589
@lalsur8589 2 месяца назад
Using an older cpu qx9650, with a 1060, windows 7 with an ssd. Works perfectly fine for all tasks. Its actually faster than when i first built it.Have also streamed games (at 1080) to my tv with no issue. Have also used atlas, and it makes older hardware useable. Windows 10 just slows down any pc. You will definitely need an ssd upgrade. I tried ubuntu, but there is a learning curve and troubleshooting can become an issue. It is definitely an interesting os and something that is worth exploring if u have the time. I've upgraded friends and family's laptops and pc with an ssd upgrade, and thats it. This has made all the difference. Not changed the ram or psu, or upgraded the gpu.
@joshuapettus6973
@joshuapettus6973 Год назад
Atlas OS seems like it has way to many security compromises as oppose to just going with fedora or some other mainstream Linux OS that will still give you that snappiness boost. Especially if you choose a lightweight desktop variant. XFCE is still my desktop of choice for older hardware, though Mate is extremely usable too.
@xr.spedtech
@xr.spedtech Год назад
FluxBox is lighter tho...
@HeroRareheart
@HeroRareheart Год назад
If your system is from the era that Linus is showing off Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop environment will do excellently. It operates incredibly similarly to Windows and has plenty of quality-of-life improvements over other Linux distributions. It's an excelent choice for someone who wants an easy to use system out of the box who's coming from Windows.
@Wylie288
@Wylie288 Год назад
But nothing actually runs on a linux os. Security means nothing if im holding a fucking brick.
@Spookylynn_
@Spookylynn_ Год назад
​@@Wylie288 wdym by nothing?
@dwirandypradhika6752
@dwirandypradhika6752 Год назад
@@Wylie288 post rock guy lives under a rock. sure... the steam deck can run nothing, it's basically a brick...
@noichiboy
@noichiboy Год назад
Securitywise, I'm not sure I'd jump on AtlasOS yet but that sounds great. I'm still on an i7 4790k paired with a r9 290 and while I will probably update soon because it will make editing 4k much easier (Resolve Studio helps a lot too for older hardware), my pc can probably still last a couple more years without struggling too much. Those kind of configs are snappy enough for anything you'd already be doing before 2020.
@mryelaer4378
@mryelaer4378 Год назад
You are editing 4k videos with an i7 4790k?!?
@nfutckr2292
@nfutckr2292 Год назад
"I see, a man of i7 4790k user as well"
@arthursavino7950
@arthursavino7950 Год назад
I'm on a xeon e3-1271v3 which is equivalent and with a gtx 1060 and it works perfectly for my 1080p gaming needs
@qgame4941
@qgame4941 Год назад
I upgraded from 4790k + 1050ti (former 980 broke) to r9 5900x + 3080 a few months back and the difference in responsiveness and for streaming is extreme. Honestly purely for gaming i wouldbt have bought the new machine, but for everything else it was really cool
@theBabyDead
@theBabyDead Год назад
@@qgame4941 lol I went from 4790K with a 1080 to a 5900X with 3080 as well. Differences are insane, especially on 165hz QHD. On 60hz 1080p it was still doing ok though.
@6lu5ky86
@6lu5ky86 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for this information, my 3700x and 5700xt are still kickin' in every game that I either need high fps in competitive or lower fps but chonkin' cpu crunches!
@anupampreet2285
@anupampreet2285 9 месяцев назад
I am still rocking a 2011 Pentium e8500 with 3 gb ram . Installed an ssd and a gt 730 few years ago and it performs basic tasks just fine. :)
@carpandrei7493
@carpandrei7493 Год назад
I fully agree: old HW doesn't have to die because software keeps getting bloated. I mean, I still use a 12 year old laptop (mostly with linux) for basic tasks like web browsing, youtube... even some very little schematic and PCB design (low complexity hobby projects). So yeah, videos like this are highly welcomed. Can't wait for the LTT Labs to kick into high gear and check out how well entry level hardware performs, which will be supper handy for jobs like this one...
@marnixds
@marnixds Год назад
this. You can run pop os on an older machine or even arch if you feel like destroying your nerves but gaining knowledge and it will run fine. Lots of people use macbooks from 2012 with linux on it.
@MediQate
@MediQate Год назад
@@marnixds What older laptop do you think would be great for messing with/learning? I’m in the market for a new laptop but if I can get an old laptop that I can upgrade and mess with without being worried about messing it up that would be awesome! A MacBook can run VM’s and install everything windows PC can install?
@marnixds
@marnixds Год назад
@@MediQate depends on what you want to learn. I have little knowledge of macbooks, even the second hand market asks a lot of money for any apple product mainly because of the brand name. Non-Apple a Business Thinkpad perhaps?
@MediQate
@MediQate Год назад
@@marnixds Well to be honest with you, I’ve been disconnected from computers my whole existence, minimal access to and desire to get into them. I’ve decided it’s time for me to “unlock” the ability to learn as much as I can about computers, AI and related technology and have the opportunity to buy a high end laptop or PC but I’d LOVE to be able to “destroy” or take apart a machine, learn the internals, learn the software, modify the OS, dive deep into everything without being limited by Windows 11/Microsoft, bottlenecks or unoptimizable/overpriced older machines. It may sound dumb but it’s the current state of things, I’m able to buy a good PC or laptop, I have the strong urge to learn everything and the dedication, free time and will power to do it but don’t want to be limited by modern restrictions. I’ll upgrade my machine in the future when I’m fully comfortable with creation and modification but I’m currently looking for something that’s good to mess with but not horribly outdated and overpriced with inadequate specs. In the future I plan on creating/designing products and bringing them to reality through 3D printing, but for now I want to KNOW a computer, become familiar and comfortable with software and sensitive hardware, then move onto the next phase. Would ANY laptop be ok to mess with or would a high ram, recently made CPU and access to various sources of storage be preferred for compartmentalization of different programs?
@commandohazelnuts
@commandohazelnuts Год назад
I use a 12 year old Mac Book Pro to do the same thing! Thanks Doritania
@zacharypoorman1067
@zacharypoorman1067 Год назад
I don't usually comment, but having materials focused on upcycling and lower spec machines is really nice and I know others feel the same. Thanks LMG!
@Jakester-rw6he
@Jakester-rw6he 8 месяцев назад
I have many 7th gen systems and with an ssd and win10/11 it runs perfectly fine, tbh for basic use i have seen second gen chips still be fast with an ssd.
@classico1132
@classico1132 11 месяцев назад
Saved an old Dell Optiplex 745 from a landfill a few weeks ago. It's a machine from 2006, only 2 years younger than myself, it's still rocking such hardware as Intel core 2 duo, 1GB (soon to be 2GB) DDR2 RAM or 80GB IDE HDD, and is running fresh reinstall of Windows XP. Although very much obsolete in context of modern gaming and internet usage, I still find it quite useful both as a retro gaming machine and a workstation for old software. Right now I am doing some music production and graphic design on it, seeing what stuff can I make with this little buddy's limitations. TL;DR: the point is every pc no matter how old and obsolete can still be useful in modern setting if you are creative enough
@animeloveer97
@animeloveer97 11 месяцев назад
I mean that was low end for 2006 honestly but if it works for you then go for it! I used to mess with old windows 98 pcs in 2010-2015 when I was in high school and it was so fun and I learned so much
@bungeetaco
@bungeetaco Год назад
One thing to keep in mind with AtlasOS is that network drive functionality is broken as of April 2023. ReviOS also has a playbook and doesn't remove that feature.
@tehonlynoobs5556
@tehonlynoobs5556 Год назад
almost gonna jump a board to use atlasos until i see your post about network drive .. god bless you
@ThisIsCexary
@ThisIsCexary Год назад
@@tehonlynoobs5556 go with ghost spectre superlite (i recommend)
@bungeetaco
@bungeetaco Год назад
@@ThisIsCexary Ghost Spectre is pretty good, although a bit 'weirder' to download (password protected archives)
@TrustPax
@TrustPax Год назад
it is the last remaining security feature of the OS
@lucasbiaggini
@lucasbiaggini Год назад
I have been using Linux as my daily driver, no dual-boot for more than a decade now. I still think it's great for people to have more options to use older machines.
@jimbo-dev
@jimbo-dev Год назад
Thank you for wording my thoughts more constructively 😁 Especially after the recent comments about Linus refusing to use/learn Linux it has become hard to understand all this effort to make windows suck less. I still wish they would make content about properly beginning to use linux, bit tutorial-ish way where someone would guide them through the differences since that’s the way people learn other operating systems too
@SA1G0N_
@SA1G0N_ Год назад
Definitely! Even gaming has improved astronomically in Linux!
@diegoleiva7242
@diegoleiva7242 Год назад
I'm using Chrome Flex on a very old laptop (A8-6410 with 8 GB of RAM and an SSD) and it's fantastic, I also used Mint XFCE but my lack of experience with Linux made me useless at solving basic issues. It saved my laptop from being landfill and I keep it by my bedside for emails, news and whatnot.
@sigmamale4147
@sigmamale4147 Год назад
@@jimbo-dev gaming support is still eh on linux, especially game mods and online anticheat games
@fitybux4664
@fitybux4664 Год назад
Try to do something like Python programming in Windows. "Oh wait, the package maintainer did something that doesn't work in Windows. And not being able to install that package means the thing I'm trying won't work. I guess I could use hacky WSL or a VM. 🤷‍♂" Basically, Windows is for when you're using your computer as a toy. If you develop in Windows, you are a second class citizen most of the time. 😀 (If you game, it's quite the opposite.)
@ryanlapeer4230
@ryanlapeer4230 Месяц назад
This was neat to watch since I have done the same thing here, but instead I bought a refurbished Dell optiplex 7010 with a I7 3770 then just added in a 1650 ti and bam a mid tier gaming pc that only cost me $550. Booted up FF XV and it ran pretty damn well, hasn't crashed yet and even after 3 years of having it to this day, this tower still is my main.
@ChrisSmith-rm6xl
@ChrisSmith-rm6xl 9 месяцев назад
Speaking of databases, for computer recycling it would be nice to have a database of which models do and do not have Windows 7/8/10/11 drivers on their websites.
@bradevans7935
@bradevans7935 Год назад
Kudos to Acer for this green initiative, using non-soldered connections where possible, and making the case out of recycled plastic. The only thing I'd change would be to have the case halves screw together instead of using clips, given that broken clips are one of the main things that lead to a lot of plastic items becoming waste.
@amarioguy
@amarioguy Год назад
As someone who actively reverse engineers Windows on a frequent basis: Do not use AtlasOS if you care about security and reliability. It breaks core parts of Windows (the component store being the most egregious one, that's very difficult to repair) and disables security measures that contrary to what people might spread, are actually pretty good ideas to have. Also, not having updates is a pretty big L right there as much as people rail against Windows Updates. more pertinent though is that breaking the component store also breaks other parts of windows in very subtle ways that can't be repaired w/o a reinstall. Edit: i looked at it some more. It's so. so. so. so. much worse than what i thought. like removing absolutely very critical, "things you use everyday" components bad. Removing things like the kernel debugger, memory diagnostic tester, RDP, Windows Hello. Disabling things like DMA remapping (which has seriously improved security in many many situations) and breaking critical components by removing critical registry keys. It's bad. Very much so. Edit 2: A friend and I checked again to see if there was anything I missed, and oh dear god I didn't think it could get worse. Reports of people's EFI system partitions being busted and bitlocker prompting recovery upon install (with no warning to suspend it by the installer despite it making these breaking changes!!) (Source: github.com/Atlas-OS/Atlas/issues/731) with devices that have BitLocker on (this is more devices than you think! The "device encryption" in Settings is BitLocker in the background). Reports of TPMs being wiped (or more likely TPM measurements invalidated by either BCD or system changes, specifically PCR7 which Windows seals the decryption key to). The fact installing this mod is enough to even potentially cause this kind of stuff which is not only scary as hell, but can *genuinely* lead to data *loss* if the person doesn't have a recovery key on hand or never backed it up or doesn't know it exists. All because the program does not mandate that bitlocker be temporarily disabled before it makes its changes. The potential corruption of the EFI system partition is bad by itself too. Not to mention it changes the boot configuration to disable the hypervisor and sets load options (one of which is no longer respected due to it's setting being in registry/system integrity policy nowadays) to disable isolated LSASS (meaning user secrets can now be read from normal kernel mode instead of being siloed safely) and virtualization based security, all of which can potentially invalidate the sealed bitlocker key, forcing recovery. Edit 3: found a list of things that will invalidate Windows's seal on PCR7 - learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/information-protection/bitlocker/bitlocker-recovery-guide-plan (Section: What causes BitLocker recovery?) My take on this mod: do not use it, do not think about using it. Stay far far away from it. It's disappointing to see this being promoted as widely as it is.
@Verindae
@Verindae Год назад
Like i said in my own post, it also disables UAC and runs everything with Admin privilege by default. It's about as compromised as a functional OS can get and should never be anywhere near an active internet connection. The fact this is just glossed over is really concerning.
@thecatontheceiling
@thecatontheceiling Год назад
ReviOS aims at compatibility and is designed to avoid as many issues like these as possible, you seem to be very knowledgeable and I want to know your opinion about them too
@BrodieRobertson
@BrodieRobertson Год назад
All of that is baby stuff when you consider UAC is disabled out the box
@philipmrch8326
@philipmrch8326 Год назад
@@BrodieRobertson Hey! Look who it is.
@cristivpopescu
@cristivpopescu Год назад
@@BrodieRobertson explain to me why you need UAC if you are a discerning user who doesn't run any programs without vetting them first. I hate UAC, the first thing i do when installing windows, disable UAC. It's pointless, and anyone non-discerning automatically clicks yes anyway
@N00dleMeister
@N00dleMeister 9 месяцев назад
I still got my old gaming rig way back from 2011, it had a i5 2500k and a GTX570 out of the box, now 12 years later I've upgraded pretty much everything except the motherboard. What's more the PSU, 1070 GPU and i7 2600k CPU that's in it now are all second-hand stuff.
@simonp37
@simonp37 Месяц назад
I am watching this on a Mac Pro from 2009, running a still supported macOS version (still getting security updates). I upgraded the processor, maxed out memory and upgraded graphics card. Seems to lag a bit with macOS 13 and 14, but works just fine with macOS 12.
@syaieya
@syaieya Год назад
Losing restore points, automatic updates, and windows defender on a still updating OS is a rough exchange for a bit more blood out of that turnip. I know there are options to solve all those issues otherwise but as far as canned solutions go they seem smooth on the outside
@deezeejoey
@deezeejoey Год назад
Loss of defender seems like a huge issue for anyone planning on using this computer and browse the internet with a web browser.
@daniels-mo9ol
@daniels-mo9ol Год назад
Defender and updates sure, but restore points? I've never ever heard anyone use that.
@lievre460
@lievre460 Год назад
@@daniels-mo9ol I use it a few times a month or so messing around with drivers and software that will break or change something that I didn't like and System Restore comes in to save the day.
@stubbyfps
@stubbyfps Год назад
I use reviOS and they have options to enable those things if needed. I've never heard of atlasOS but from my current win11 build on revi, I have everything you named enabled since it is kinda an issue.
@junjung2975
@junjung2975 Год назад
yeah i never use restore point if it borked fresh install it is then
@Jachym_77
@Jachym_77 Год назад
Ive been waiting so long for you guys to look at custom ISOs because they can be a real gamechanger. I personally use ReviOs on my old laptop and experience up to 40% fps gains in Games. Thank you for showing off these opertunities to squeeze the most fps out of older systems for a wider range of people.
@danielevans465
@danielevans465 5 месяцев назад
As a linux user I would say that linux is run on old computers to make them faster but also works very well on newer computers.
@dtuando
@dtuando 3 месяца назад
I daily drive linux and I play apex legends daily... linux does everything windows does but with less clicks and a few commands.
@opoxious1592
@opoxious1592 8 месяцев назад
Asus P6T mobo x58 platform. (released in November 2008) CPU: Xeon x5675 6 cores 12 treads (3.06GHz stock) running now at 5Ghz. (Released Q2/2011) 48GB Kingston Hyper-X Savage DDR-3 (2017) GPU: RX 6950 XT. (2020) Any Triple A game can be played with all graphics settings on "ultra".
@maringenov7753
@maringenov7753 Год назад
One can do this kind of optimizations with the help of the various scripts available at the MDL forums. They are both more transparent (being open source and all) AND give you more control over what things to keep and what to exclude.
@Grogueman
@Grogueman 11 месяцев назад
YUp, tools like NT Lite are far more safer and transparent than this pre-customised Atlassian stuff.
@evifnoskcaj
@evifnoskcaj Год назад
Love this! All we did at my Uni CS-Club was repair and refurbish and experiment with "old" computers and components that people would have otherwise thrown away. It served to teach people about computer hardware, saved people a bunch of money, helped out the students and staff, and it was super fun! Also, I love the shot of Anthony happily in the background with his hands together. Freaking GOAT. Praise be to overlord Anthony. ❤
@Laz3rSkar
@Laz3rSkar 2 месяца назад
Atlas has made many updates too. Now V0.3 is made for W11 23H2! And also works with 10 on the same playbook!
@SlayBellsMusic
@SlayBellsMusic 9 месяцев назад
My laptop died, and I replaced it with a refurb desktop. 32 RAM and 4TB of storage, half of that SSD for ~ $300. Came with a monitor plus I had one from my old tower. I use it for audio recording and it does an awesome job.
@gamin8ing
@gamin8ing Год назад
My experience with Atlas OS was really smooth like it only consumed 13% percent RAM on my 2GB ram 13 year old PC, i used Mem Reduct to explicitly do it, and it passed my expectations by a lot
@TheFalseShepphard
@TheFalseShepphard Год назад
wtf how and why are you even using 2 gigs?
@posadist681
@posadist681 Год назад
@@TheFalseShepphard He has to play minesweeper on low settings 💀
@escapetherace1943
@escapetherace1943 Год назад
bro I have a 13 year old laptop with 16 gigs of ram that cost 20 dollars stick in more ram 💀
@gokalpcetin2769
@gokalpcetin2769 Год назад
I loved to see this video, this green approach and this much progress at it is awesome to see. I myself just turned an old desktop pc (dell optiplex 790) to a server for minecraft, plex and ftp, I used linux so far but I would love to try setting up another VM with AtlasOS to see how much performance it brings back on the table compared to regular Windows 10/11! I really like the idea of reusing and recycling e-waste as much as possible! Thank you AtlasOS for doing this!!
@AbstractObserver
@AbstractObserver 9 месяцев назад
I had this exact spec until the end of the last year when I bought a bigger power supply and a new 3060 to put ion place of the 1660
@moviesthesedayssuck4526
@moviesthesedayssuck4526 8 месяцев назад
Built a Hp z440 with a K6000 98GB ECC RAM and 500GBSSD with a 32TB dual RAID HDD archive attached. Ends up being around 14TB when all is said and done. Got a 28%r score when I ran it thru benchmark. Built a production media server for our home business Thanks to Anthony ❤️👍
@MangoMC381
@MangoMC381 14 дней назад
WTF ARE YOUR SPECS!?
@crasssy1
@crasssy1 Год назад
You guys are great! It's awesome, that you not only make reviews of high-end and server grade hardware, but you also touch low end stuff.
@softxpandguest708
@softxpandguest708 Год назад
They're literally promoting an OS with all security features stripped from it, so they get 3% better framerates.
@GeovaneDias7
@GeovaneDias7 Год назад
2018 I build my pc(i7-8700k+1080ti) with tips from you LTT videos, been running every single game until now with absolutely no problem. Unfortunately I wont be able to upgraded it but now I really know what to do when my system start to stutter on the future. Ty from the heart guys for videos like these.
@NathanMillerVisuals
@NathanMillerVisuals 7 месяцев назад
Great video! Yes it's always a good idea to up-cycle old hardware like this. When I built a new workstation upgrading from 4790K the cpu and motherboard still worked fine even running windows. But what I did was I turned that system into an Unraid server for my production business backup and I couldn't be happier. Just needed to buy the hard drives.
@jenrosejenrose7417
@jenrosejenrose7417 9 месяцев назад
About six years ago I bought a couple of older refurbished units and picked ones compatible with parts I had on hand because my son put a foot in my computer. Then I picked up cheap RAM and a cheap extra video card and they've been using them ever since. My son is just at the point where he needs something with more oomph... So he's getting my laptop when I build a new desktop. But his current system's mobo is about as old as he is and he, at 11, does fine with most of the games I'm willing for an 11yo to play. And hubby is a casual gamer so his needs are pretty lean. I'd be more likely to upgrade his current system than replace it. After a lifetime of things going obsolete in 5 years, the last 15 years have been so much better for computer longevity.
@muhammadghayyas8674
@muhammadghayyas8674 Год назад
Bro called 7th gen obsolete technology 💀💀💀💀
@Bloxomatic
@Bloxomatic Месяц назад
Well it was 7 years ago
@7amzo3
@7amzo3 Месяц назад
My Friend use i3 370m (Gen 1💀💀​@@Bloxomatic
@twistedcranknation
@twistedcranknation Месяц назад
Must suck for him. ​@@7amzo3
@zaclabucay5523
@zaclabucay5523 4 дня назад
@@7amzo3bro what
@chris-C8
@chris-C8 Год назад
I love videos like this. I was backing up old home videos recently and planned to use Plex until I found out that when family members accessed it, it would hurt my laptop's performance. So, that wasn't an option. But I watched a video Anthony did a while back about turning your old PC into a server, so that's my plan going forward. It would be nice to see more videos featuring Anthony on the main channel. With his video guide, I installed my first Linux operating system on an old laptop and gave it to my niece so she could watch her Disney movies.
@abcbcd1834
@abcbcd1834 Год назад
Anthony is the best host on any LMG channel imo. His videos are always great
@bpdqbpdq
@bpdqbpdq Год назад
Just make sure not to host 4k content on it, things get un-fun when you're dealing with transcoding issues from tech-unsavvy relatives. Either that or harass them to fix their settings lol.
@jjmmjj9999
@jjmmjj9999 Год назад
@@bpdqbpdq 4k can be direct played providing the client supports it.
@josephromano6168
@josephromano6168 Год назад
I just saw that video too! Ended up going Synology due to a significantly lower power draw and my old ITX computer not supporting transcoding. This videos are great DIY guides
@kainenable
@kainenable Год назад
Dude, try running openmedia vault and running plex in a container. It is so slick and efficient. I have been running that on a rasberry pi for over a year now. I have like 12 containers running on my little pi and has been working like a champ.
@forbidden76
@forbidden76 10 месяцев назад
Its funny to watch this video now in 2023 where its like 4-5x better that it used to be. In 1998-2008 I was reinstalling Windows from scratch every year because Windows 98 and XP were so horrible handling the bloating of the system files/registry. I was playing a lot of FPS games like Quake 3, Counterstrike and Battlefield 2 which really needed to perform 100%. I turned off lots of services and restarted my PC every time I was going to play a game...which took 2-5 minutes depending on if there were updates pending. And I had fast system at the time.
@zwiebelsaften9175
@zwiebelsaften9175 10 месяцев назад
Yeah I'm totally on board. I bought a ryzen 7 1800 when windows 11 dropped and a gtx 1060 6gb later. Im running Pop OS and I can totally play games. You really don't need new stuff if you are ok with running low settings with the new games.
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